>I can't see the city ever paying for another stadium at least in the first half of the 21st century. It would either have to built with private money or built by some institution that could share it with the city. Maybe the art academy will get a D-1 basketball team or UC could build a streetcar line to the spot and then build the new basketball arena there rather than on campus which is basically running out of space, especially if the football team wants a 45,000 seat stadium.

 

 

I've made my opinion heard elsewhere that the trend of even minor universities like Xavier building their own big-time sports arenas is disturbing and part of the reason why higher education costs are out of control while the classic education can only be achieved by taking electives.  Not so long ago UC played its games at the Coliseum and XU at the Cincinnati Gardens.  What if both universities had pooled their resources to build one shared arena somewhere in the area between them?  With light rail in place it would have been an easy trip for students to reach an arena at the corner of Martin Luther King and Reading Rd., for example.  Unfortunately university campuses exist today much more to impress high schoolers and their parents than they do to serve students in a meaningful way. 

 

An arena where University Plaza now sits could be an opportunity for UC and the city/county to combine efforts to create a facility that could both serve the city and university.  If 30,000+ can get to Nippert Stadium then a similar number can get to a new arena in that location.  It would help revitalize both Vine St. and Calhoun St.  And unlike the Broadway Commons site, there would not be thousands of parking spaces to replace with garages.  Also, if the Mt. Auburn light rail tunnel had been built (and there's no reason why it still couldn't), access to that location would be even better.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think it wouls be viable.  I don't see enough events being held there to have an impact on the local economy.  Add 41+ NBA games and that is a different story.  Like people have said, i think its a moot point unless Cincy gets an NBA or NHL team.  I don't see the UC secenario materializing although they certainly are running out of space.

i think its a moot point unless

There are a lot of issues that could complete this sentence for Broadway Commons.  I am not sure what the answer is.  My only hope is that it is not ordinary, and it is something that benefits the entire area, aesthetically and economically, but what that is, who knows.

I know that this may not rise to the level of Broadway Commons but I would like to see something done for the Reading Rd. entrance from 71 S.  How much traffic does this 1/4 mile stretch see day in and day out?  And it has what? Well there is a check cashing place, Bavarian Motors, High Street (thats a start) and Staples.  This is THEE Gateway into OTR and north downtown and for many of the suburbanites, this stretch of road is the only glimpse they get of OTR as they drive to their offices in the CBD.

I think the next step for the city is to bring more F500 companies to the CBD. The city needs more revenue. Expand Lunken to bring in a low cost carries like SW airlines.

I think the next step for the city is to bring more F500 companies to the CBD. The city needs more revenue. Expand Lunken to bring in a low cost carries like SW airlines.

 

Is there enough room for Luken to expand to the size that would be able to accommodate this type of airliner?

Sure it is. But it would cost ALOT of money. Mostly for depressing Beechmont avenue and having a runway or two go above it.

^^I believe in terms of square miles, Lunken is bigger than LaGuardia in NYC. But I'm sure the surrounding neighborhood would rise holy hell at the mere mention of larger jets.

 

Also, the president's plane landed their a few weeks ago for a quickie fun raiser.

The neighborhoods of Linwood, Mt Lookout, and Mt Washington already raised holy hell of the mention of larger jets a few years ago...

 

Politically it seems like a non-starter.

^ Yeah but this airport has been there before most of the current residents moved there. They knew an airport was close to them. They trains going through the area. They can be as loud as jets.

These neighborhoods are very vocal, rich, and white.  Thus, they get a lot of clout when it comes to city decisions in their area.  Lunken will never turn into a second airport, and I think that's a good thing.  Dayton is really Cincinnati's second (smaller) airport.  Columbus, Indy, Louisville and, to a lesser extent, Lexington all offer cheaper fairs that are fairly easilly accessible to Cincinnati.

When P&G had to work hard to lengthen the runway and get their new hanger, you know Lunken has limits. In addition, it gets foggy a lot and has flooding potential.

 

If there were ever to be another serious airport in the region, it would have to be in Warren Cty between 75 and 71. Since the two main airports are on the 'wrong' sides of their urban areas, Butler-Warren area would have plenty of population and draw off Cincy and Dayton. But its never ever gonna happen. I think we'll see a useful rail system connecting the core to the airports before we see another major airport expansion.

^ when I lived in Middletown I thought that using their relatively big airport for FedEx (or similar) service northern Cincy and south dayton made sense except for the relative inaccessability of the airport from I-75. Throwing in a few RJ-sized flights a day wouldn't hurt either.  Comair seems to hit every small market except for Butler/Warren counties.

Dayton is really Cincinnati's second (smaller) airport.

 

I love that you said that... :-D