April 18, 20223 yr Relatedly, more spin off and investment: 1) The Aviator takes off with refreshed design in former 100th Bomb Group space https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/04/the-aviator-takes-off-with-refreshed-design-in-former-100th-bomb-group-space-photos.html 2) New hotel and apartments
April 20, 20223 yr Is there anyway to get NASA back within Cleveland boundaries or has that ship sailed?
April 20, 20223 yr ^ i beleive the ship has sailed. however, i do not see it as a bad tradeoff, the gain for the airport and for expansion and redevelopment is full of future potential. of course that will take clear vision and money.
April 25, 20223 yr From Litt: NASA Glenn gets a stylish, space-age community centerpiece thanks to GSA’s Design Excellence program - commentary Published: Apr. 25, 2022, 5:30 a.m. By Steven Litt, cleveland.com BROOK PARK, Ohio — Scientists and engineers working at the NASA Glenn Research Center have contributed mightily to the history of aeronautics and space exploration. But they’ve done all that work in relatively drab surroundings reflecting the austere, functionalist, mid-century aesthetics of the era in which most of the campus was built. Founded in 1941 as one of what became 10 NASA research centers across the U.S., the NASA Glenn facility in Brook Park, just west of Cleveland Hopkins International Airport, comprises 307 acres and 186 buildings. Apart from the impressive industrial look of NASA Glenn’s labs and technical facilities, including wind tunnels and vacuum chambers, the campus is comprised mainly of dozens of architecturally undistinguished low-rise beige brick buildings that have a stark, military look. Now, however, the campus has a new heart. In January, NASA Glenn and the federal General Services Administration finished construction of the gleaming new Research Support Building. https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/04/nasa-glenn-gets-a-stylish-space-age-community-centerpiece-thanks-to-gsas-design-excellence-program-commentary.html
May 10, 20223 yr This is disappointing: another director on a "twilight" assignment retires; no replacement at the ready ... https://www.crainscleveland.com/government/nasa-glenn-research-center-director-marla-perez-davis-will-retire-june Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
May 18, 20223 yr More new construction highlights: Cleveland’s futuristic space center is modernizing its outdated spaces GRANT SEGALL | WEDNESDAY, MAY 18, 2022 https://www.freshwatercleveland.com/breaking-ground/NASAGlennRenovation051822.aspx
June 9, 20223 yr Gateway’s Propulsion System Testing Throttles Up The developmental versions of the spacecraft’s thrusters and electric propulsion systems are being tested at NASA’s Glenn Research Center in Cleveland. These efforts include the first end-to-end test of the 6-kW system to validate changes and technical interactions between Maxar’s flight-like PPU and Busek’s 6-kW test thruster, as well as validation of Maxar’s larger 12-kW PPU with a prototype 12-kW thruster. The team has also conducted end-to-end tests using Aerojet Rocketdyne’s Advanced Electric Propulsion System (AEPS)12-kW test thruster. https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/06/02/gateways-propulsion-system-testing-throttles-up/
June 10, 20223 yr When I was at Sun News, I was assigned to cover an experiment designed by NASA Glenn to be conducted aboard the space shuttle. I went to their lab and interviewed the team. Geez, it was like talking to foreigners. I didn't understand anything they said. Finally, I said "Explain it in layman's terms how this experiment could affect people's daily lives." Then we got somewhere... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 11, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, KJP said: When I was at Sun News, I was assigned to cover an experiment designed by NASA Glenn to be conducted aboard the space shuttle. I went to their lab and interviewed the team. Geez, it was like talking to foreigners. I didn't understand anything they said. Finally, I said "Explain it in layman's terms how this experiment could affect people's daily lives." Then we got somewhere... You mean it wasn't like "Big Bang Theory?"
November 10, 20222 yr Nov 7, 2022 RELEASE 22-114 NASA Administrator Names Glenn Research Center Director NASA Administrator Bill Nelson has named Dr. Jimmy Kenyon director of the agency’s Glenn Research Center in Cleveland, effective immediately. Kenyon has served as the acting director of Glenn since June. more: https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-administrator-names-glenn-research-center-director
November 15, 20222 yr joe gets speculative about nasa artemis and the future — and nasa glenn and cleveland come up re development of lunanet for lunar communications — its at 12:10:
March 26, 20232 yr A NASA spin-off development also posted in the Random Cleveland Developments thread Just now, KJP said: Blue Abyss may build $250m research center here By Ken Prendergast / March 26, 2023 A British company, Blue Abyss Diving Ltd., is pursuing the development of a new research center devoted to deep sea and space research in the Cleveland suburb of Brook Park on land next to NASA Glenn Research Center. The project, with a total estimated price tag of $250 million, could be one of the most significant business investments resulting from the presence of the NASA facility. It could also be nearly identical to a major research center Blue Abyss is building in the United Kingdom county of Cornwall. MORE https://neo-trans.blog/2023/03/26/blue-abyss-to-build-250m-research-center-here/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 21, 20231 yr NASA Glenn is a key partner with airlines in developing advances in flight Kim Palmer July 21st 2023 "The prospect of returning to the moon and eventual commercial space flight garners the biggest headlines, but NASA Glenn Research Center’s work on the next decade of advances in commercial air travel is expected to be just as groundbreaking — and for many, more relevant. ... NASA has grown into an agency with 10 centers across the country and a $27 billion annual budget. Each site has a unique role, specialty and set of core competencies that contribute to the agency’s aerospace and aeronautical missions, Kenyon said. Glenn has more than 500 specialized research and test facilities, including full-scale engine, flight, materials and structures testing; and wind tunnels used to accurately simulate harsh flight conditions. Those facilities have enabled the agency to work with industry and academia to develop decades of aeronautical technology advances." https://www.crainscleveland.com/government/nasa-glenn-key-future-innovations-air-travel
September 3, 20231 yr The quiet economic engine that is Cleveland's NASA Glenn Research Center https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/the-quiet-economic-engine-that-is-clevelands-nasa-glenn-research-center
September 22, 20231 yr i was looking up the time to watch the osiris-rex asteroid bennu sample return in western utah -- fyi its sunday morning at 8:55am -- you can watch on nasa tv -- but anyway, a pleasant surprize to see this story currently on the front page of the nasa website -- 👍 Sep 21, 2023 How the Skylab 3 Command Module Found Its Home in Cleveland On Sept. 25, 1973, Tim Hogan and his colleagues from the Navy’s Underwater Demolition Team leapt from a hovering helicopter into the churning Pacific Ocean to recover the Apollo Command Module and its crew following NASA’s Skylab 3 mission. Nearly 13 years later, Hogan and the command module were reunited when the capsule became an exhibit at NASA’s Lewis Research Center (today, NASA Glenn) in Cleveland. It is now on display at Great Lakes Science Center, home of the NASA Glenn Visitor Center. more: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/glenn/2023/how-the-skylab-3-command-module-found-its-home-in-cleveland Tim Hogan examines the command module on display at Lewis in September 1986. Hogan joined the center as a metal worker in 1977 and later moved into institutional project management. He was active in the center’s speaker’s bureau, sports leagues, and social clubs while continuing to serve as a member of the Navy reserves. Hogan retired in the 2000s. Credits: NASA/Laura Bagnell
September 22, 20231 yr On 9/3/2023 at 11:24 AM, MuRrAy HiLL said: The quiet economic engine that is Cleveland's NASA Glenn Research Center https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/the-quiet-economic-engine-that-is-clevelands-nasa-glenn-research-center I never realized until a few years ago that when the space program started, it was essentially based in Cleveland (and DC). Florida was an ideal launch area but then Johnson took Mission Control to Houston. NASA in Cleveland is very understated and most people who are not from the West Side of Cleveland have little knowledge that it is there.
October 21, 20231 yr ndt, rogan, the nasa budget and the guy from cleveland … 😂🎃 https://youtube.com/shorts/iSaKYSCHyXc?si=Re6t-btnyWicNqep
November 28, 20231 yr now this is pretty interesting and cool — 😂👍 Vikings QB Joshua Dobbs boosts NASA profile with NFL success Xuan Thai, ESPN Senior Writer Nov 27, 2023, 07:00 AM ET For Minnesota Vikings fans, the emergence of 28-year-old journeyman quarterback Joshua Dobbs these past few weeks has been exciting to watch, not to mention fodder for a fresh round of memes, the appearance of space-suit-themed outfits in the stands and the craze over the coolest new nickname in football: "The Passtronaut." But for NASA, Dobbs' meteoric rise has created a different kind of buzz. And while "The Joshua Dobbs Effect" might not be an actual scientific finding, there is some evidence that Dobbs, a quarterback and aerospace engineer who is now 2-1 with the Vikings heading into Monday night's game against the Chicago Bears, has generated a wave of new excitement -- in science. When NASA's Glenn Research Center in Ohio posted about Dobbs on X in early November, user engagement soared. The post received more than 3 million views, and the account's followers increased by 216% compared to the previous week's gain. In 2022, the center said, the average number of engagements per post was 176. more: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38980580/vikings-qb-joshua-dobbs-boosts-nasa-profile-nfl-success
December 24, 20231 yr wow i follow space stuff casually and i had no idea about this — it looks like another shuttle — has anybody gotten a glimpse of it? Dream Chaser is Getting Tested at NASA After a journey spanning almost two decades, Sierra Nevada Corporation’s Dream Chaser reusable spaceplane, named Tenacity, is officially undergoing environmental testing at NASA’s Neil Armstrong Test Facility located at NASA’s Glenn Research Center in anticipation of its maiden flight to the International Space Station (ISS), currently scheduled for April 2024. The environmental testing consists of analyzing the spacecraft’s ability to withstand rigorous vibrations during launch and re-entry, along with the harsh environment of outer space, including extreme temperature changes and vacuum conditions. This testing comes after Sierra Space announced the completion of Tenacity at its facilities in Louisville, Colorado last month, along with the delivery of Sierra Space’s cargo module, Shooting Star, to the Neil Armstrong Test Facility that same month, as well. lots more: https://www.universetoday.com/164947/dream-chaser-is-getting-tested-at-nasa/
December 25, 20231 yr On 4/18/2022 at 10:31 AM, MuRrAy HiLL said: Correct, Cleveland is home to 1 of the 10 NASA "Centers." Never thought of it, but good point on us having the only Center HQ located in the north. During the early days of NASA, a lot of southern Congressman kept getting reelected over and over again, building up the kind of seniority that leads to such facilities.
December 25, 20231 yr 21 hours ago, mrnyc said: wow i follow space stuff casually and i had no idea about this — it looks like another shuttle — has anybody gotten a glimpse of it? Dream Chaser is Getting Tested at NASA After a journey spanning almost two decades, Sierra Nevada Corporation’s Dream Chaser reusable spaceplane, named Tenacity, is officially undergoing environmental testing at NASA’s Neil Armstrong Test Facility located at NASA’s Glenn Research Center in anticipation of its maiden flight to the International Space Station (ISS), currently scheduled for April 2024. The environmental testing consists of analyzing the spacecraft’s ability to withstand rigorous vibrations during launch and re-entry, along with the harsh environment of outer space, including extreme temperature changes and vacuum conditions. This testing comes after Sierra Space announced the completion of Tenacity at its facilities in Louisville, Colorado last month, along with the delivery of Sierra Space’s cargo module, Shooting Star, to the Neil Armstrong Test Facility that same month, as well. lots more: https://www.universetoday.com/164947/dream-chaser-is-getting-tested-at-nasa/ SN is a new player in the spacecraft design and manufacturing game. Long way to go to catch SpaceX, but there's plenty of room up there.
March 21, 20241 yr On 4/18/2022 at 10:31 AM, MuRrAy HiLL said: Correct, Cleveland is home to 1 of the 10 NASA "Centers." Never thought of it, but good point on us having the only Center HQ located in the north. Did not realize they renamed Plum Brook Station. Almost 15 years ago I had to pick something up there related to construction work happening, and to a college kid it felt like I was on a CIA black site or something 😂
March 23, 20241 yr On 3/21/2024 at 11:44 AM, mrnyc said: dr urban at nasa glenn talks to fraser about testing fires in space — I worked on something similar in early 2000s at Glenn, although smaller scale experiment. It was called the Combustion Module 2 and flew onboard (sadly) the last Columbia mission.
April 27, 20241 yr glenn is the lead in next gen deep space ion propulsion research & testing — UNIVERSE TODAY Space and astronomy news Next Generation Ion Engines Will Be Extremely Powerful During the Space Race, scientists in both the United States and the Soviet Union investigated the concept of ion propulsion. Like many early Space Age proposals, the concept was originally explored by luminaries like Konstantin Tsiolkovsky and Hermann Oberth – two of the “forefathers of rocketry.” Since then, the technology has been validated repeatedly by missions like the Deep Space-1 (DS-1) technology demonstrator, the ESA’s Smart-1lunar orbiter, JAXA’s Hayabusa and Hayabysa 2satellites, and NASA’s Dawn mission. Looking to the future of space exploration, researchers at the NASA Glenn Research Center (GRC) have been busy developing a next-generation ion engine that combines extreme fuel efficiency with high acceleration. These efforts have led to the NASA-H71M sub-kilowatt Hall-effect thruster, a small spacecraft electric propulsion (SSEP) system that will enable new types of planetary science missions. With the help of commercial partners like SpaceLogistics, this thruster will also be used to extend the lifetimes of spacecraft that are already in orbit. more: https://www.universetoday.com/166747/next-generation-ion-engines-will-be-extremely-powerful/ Northrop Grumman NGHT-1X engineering model Hall-effect thruster operating in Glenn Research Center Vacuum Facility 8. The design of the NGHT-1X is based on the NASA-H71M Hall-effect thruster. Credit: Northrop Grumman NASA-H71M Hall-effect thruster on the Glenn Research Center Vacuum Facility 8 thrust stand (left) and Dr. Jonathan Mackey tuning the thrust stand before closing and pumping down the test facility (right). Credit: NASA GRC
August 4, 2024Aug 4 NASA and GE are developing the next advance in jet engines for narrow-body planes, looking for a 20% improvement in efficiency over the current products. Hybrid thermally efficient core technology (HyTEC) coupled with an external fan (don't call it a propeller) should produce about 10% saving each. It's nice to see a forward-looking project at the Glenn Center; for some years Glenn seemed to be devolving into a service support facility for the other centers and a pre-retirement assignment for directors. https://aerospaceamerica.aiaa.org/departments/targeting-net-zero-2050-with-a-better-engine-core/ Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
August 18, 2024Aug 18 nasa glenn is pushing to pull off my favorite solar system dream mission, to explore neptune’s moon triton — A Hopper Could Explore Over 150km of Triton’s Surface In Two Years Neptune’s largest moon, Triton, is one of the most biologically interesting places in the solar system. Despite being hard to reach, it appears to have active volcanoes, a thin atmosphere, and even some organic molecules called tholins on its surface. However, Voyager only visited it once, in passing, 35 years ago. Technology has advanced a lot in the intervening decades, and a new push for a lander on Triton specifically has been garnering attention. One such mission was described by Steve Oleson and Geoffrey Landis of NASA’s Glenn Research Center. Their concept mission, known as Triton Hopper, was funded by NASA’s Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC) back in 2018 and utilized a cryogenic pump to extract propellant from Triton’s surface to power a “hopper” that could travel up to 5 km a month, and do some fascinating science along the way. more: https://www.universetoday.com/168114/a-hopper-could-explore-over-150km-of-tritons-surface-in-two-years/
February 25Feb 25 NASA's T34 is doing laps in the pattern this morning at CLE if anyone is interested. He's probably trying to build some hours before Elon fires everyone. A It's always interesting when they have it out as they have to gate off Hangar road on the north side of the field for the plane to cross the road on its taxiway into Nasa Glenn.
March 12Mar 12 FYI.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 13Mar 13 On 7/9/2009 at 8:44 AM, MuRrAy HiLL said: NASA Glenn Research Center taking part in Ohio celebration of first lunar landing Posted by Grant Segall / Plain Dealer Reporter July 08, 2009 17:57PM BROOK PARK, Ohio -- Forty years later, Ohio wants to remind the world that a Buckeye conquered the moon, with help from researchers here. The first lunar landing will be commemorated at NASA Glenn Research Center in Brook Park, home to much Apollo program research, and at the Armstrong Air and Space Center in Wapakoneta, hometown of the first moonwalker, Neil Armstrong. More at: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/nasa_glenn_research_center_tak.html Why stop with NASA increase the odds of success and recruit the remnants of other Agencies like FAA, FBI and NIH/HHS…
May 31May 31 $6B cut to the NASA budget proposed by Trump admin for FY ‘26. This will undoubtedly affect Cleveland. Page 407 shows the proposed civil-service cuts to employment, from 1,391 this year to 837 next year.Call your Reps, Senators, the VP, whoever. Edited May 31May 31 by Oldmanladyluck
May 31May 31 A lot of talk about GCP recently. Seeing how aggressively they and other local organizations mobilize to push back on this will be very telling. Normally Congress mostly ignores president’s proposed budgets but who knows these days.
May 31May 31 The FY26 employment decline at Glenn is worse than it looks. Glenn as a percentage of total NASA employment: FY 24 - 8.44%; FY 25 - 7.99%; FY 26 - 7.06%. Typically, the President's budget gets plussed up as it goes through Congress. We'll see.Another interesting item: $4 billion in total deferred maintenance at NASA plus a $2.3 billion environmental remediation backlog. As with the Celebreeze federal building, both numbers are squishy but still attention-getting. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
May 31May 31 5 hours ago, Oldmanladyluck said:$6B cut to the NASA budget proposed by Trump admin for FY ‘26. This will undoubtedly affect Cleveland. Page 407 shows the proposed civil-service cuts to employment, from 1,391 this year to 837 next year.Call your Reps, Senators, the VP, whoever.If Moreno actually gave a s**t about his job and this region, we'd actually have a chance
June 5Jun 5 On 5/31/2025 at 1:47 PM, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:If Moreno actually gave a s**t about his job and this region, we'd actually have a chanceAlso you would think having the VP be from Ohio would make a difference but that would mean that Vance actually cared about Ohio.
June 5Jun 5 9 hours ago, cle_guy90 said:Also you would think having the VP be from Ohio would make a difference but that would mean that Vance actually cared about Ohio.Unfortunately it's in Shontel Brown's district and I would not expect it to be high on her priorities even if she was an effective representative of the entire district. At times I really miss Lou Stokes.It is literally on the border of Max Miller's district and I would imagine a lot of the staff lives in his district. So perhaps he can be persuaded to do a LaTourette. I'm not holding my breath but he may be the best bet.
June 5Jun 5 1 hour ago, E Rocc said:Unfortunately it's in Shontel Brown's district and I would not expect it to be high on her priorities even if she was an effective representative of the entire district. At times I really miss Lou Stokes.It is literally on the border of Max Miller's district and I would imagine a lot of the staff lives in his district. So perhaps he can be persuaded to do a LaTourette. I'm not holding my breath but he may be the best bet.It is entirely in Max Miller's district... I did contact him because I work at NASA and live in his district. He has not responded. He's talked a big game about supporting NASA, but I do not expect much.
June 5Jun 5 4 hours ago, E Rocc said:Unfortunately it's in Shontel Brown's district and I would not expect it to be high on her priorities even if she was an effective representative of the entire district. At times I really miss Lou Stokes.It is literally on the border of Max Miller's district and I would imagine a lot of the staff lives in his district. So perhaps he can be persuaded to do a LaTourette. I'm not holding my breath but he may be the best bet.It's weird, NASA drive is in Shontel's but the center is in Miller's.
June 6Jun 6 23 hours ago, cadmen said:What? He didn't respond? I'm shocked. Shocked l say.was going to make this exact same post.i worked at nasa glenn from late 90s through 00s in flight software. I'm sure it's much different now but back then there were some incredible engineers and scientists, but there was also a surprising number of people who were very comfortable with doing the bare minimum, bogged projects down, difficult to work with, and apparently "nothing could be done" due to civil servant protections. there's probably a fair amount of trimming that could be done if it was done in a thoughtful way without losing too much true talent. but that's a big if considering the current administration.
Tuesday at 07:07 AM2 days Despite proposed cuts to NASA Glenn, Brook Park is keeping the effort to relocate the HQ to the NASA Glenn campus alive.Brook Park officials urge NASA to relocate headquarters to cityPublished: Jun. 09, 2025By Maura Zurick, cleveland.comBROOK PARK, Ohio — With NASA’s lease on its Washington, D.C., headquarters set to expire in 2028, Brook Park officials are urging the federal government to consider relocating the agency to Northeast Ohio.They believe Brook Park offers the infrastructure, partnerships and momentum needed to support the next era of space exploration.City Council, with the support of Mayor Edward Orcutt, unanimously approved a resolution June 3 encouraging the NASA administrator to relocate the agency’s headquarters to Brook Park.clevelandBrook Park officials urge NASA to relocate headquarters t...Brook Park officials are urging NASA to relocate its headquarters to the city, citing existing aerospace infrastructure, recent investment, and Ohio’s aviation legacy.
Tuesday at 01:48 PM2 days Correct me if I'm wrong, but do mayors of small 1950s suburbs typically lobby DC to bring big business into their suburb? Because I would instead suspect the head of the region to be doing this. Issue is that we don't have a regional head, just mayors of 50 fiefdoms fighting for scraps. Imagine the political power if Bibb, Ronayne, the GCP, JobsOhio were urging NASA to relocate at the same time.
Tuesday at 01:56 PM2 days 4 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but do mayors of small 1950s suburbs typically lobby DC to bring big business into their suburb? Because I would instead suspect the head of the region to be doing this. Issue is that we don't have a regional head, just mayors of 50 fiefdoms fighting for scraps. Imagine the political power if Bibb, Ronayne, the GCP, JobsOhio were urging NASA to relocate at the same time.Don't have to imagine, they already did, 3 months ago...Northeast Ohio business and political leaders tout aerospace legacy in plea to VP Vance for NASA headquartersPublished: Mar. 24, 2025By Rich Exner, cleveland.comBROOK PARK, Ohio - More than 150 political and business leaders from across Northeast Ohio offered their support behind a bid to relocate NASA headquarters here in a letter sent Monday to Vice President JD Vance and Donald Trump’s nominee to head NASA....Monday’s letter from local leaders was signed by Cleveland Mayor Justin Bibb, Cuyahoga County Executive Chris Ronayne and Team NEO CEO Matt Dolan.clevelandNortheast Ohio business and political leaders tout aerosp...Mayors from Cleveland, Brook Park and other leaders from across region join effort to attract NASA HQ
Tuesday at 02:22 PM2 days They should be spending their time pushing back on the drastic cuts proposed by Trump.
Tuesday at 02:53 PM2 days 22 minutes ago, coneflower said:They should be spending their time pushing back on the drastic cuts proposed by Trump.Speaking of which, there's a rally planned in Cleveland to do exactly that. Cleveland rally planned to protest proposed NASA Glenn Research Center cutsNASA just started the process of incentivizing voluntary separation yesterday to meet these cuts (resignation with ~6 months severance and early retirement incentives). Hopefully Congress can come through (I know Ted Cruz introduced an amendment increasing funding mostly at the NASA space flight centers) because there will undoubtedly not be enough voluntary layoffs to avoid involuntary ones at the currently proposed funding.
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