November 6, 200618 yr I think Columbus can go small with its marketing image and do quite well. As a city, Columbus doesn't have any big bad stuff to live down (unless you're attending classes in Ann Arbor), but at the same time, it doesn't have much to live up to, either. The Zoo and COSI ostensibly are attractions, but neither generate much enthusiasm. The capitol; the largest public university; cutting edge malls. Bo-ring. So, what does Columbus have? Here's what: exactly enough fun for one couples (gay or straight) weekend getaway, and enough left over to tease you back for more. You can park the car or cab in from the airport and enjoy awesome, centrally located accomodations and a boatload of restaurants, parks and places to walk to. Throw in a show at The Palace or Ohio, a cheap cab out to the Franklin Park Conservatory, a meal and a drink and a healthy dose of people watching in the Short North, a spin through the art museum, an afternoon of gallery hopping and shopping and maybe a game/event at the Nationwide Arena, and boom, you've blown a weekend on foot and on your ass. Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do.
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 6, 200618 yr I'm not sure where we stand on this discussion, but I'd have to say Columbus right now is very "accessible." I mean by that, Columbus has some really nice Web sites and programs...The "Experience Columbus" site and the living downtown site and Retro Metro and Metro-Rentals....Plus Columbus Alive is a good little "unbiased" way to attract young people. Columbus might be a little less "known" but I think the brand is building slowly but surely! Bring on those streetcars! And build up density downtown.
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough SoHo???????? Child please!
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough SoHo???????? Child please! This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant. Tsk tsk. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 6, 200618 yr ^ ALL I knows is comparin' New Yahk to anyplace else...fogettaboutit! That's my crappy Internet NYC accent. But, as an obnoxious kid from Long Island told these Irish tourists on the Staten Island Ferry: "New York. It's the best city in the world!! Also, don't you love Guinness?"
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough SoHo???????? Child please! This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant. Tsk tsk. Yes I did, as I live in both and can acurately make comparisons. I was sentenced to live in Columbus for four hellish years...and IMHO nothing in Columbus can be compared to NYC
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough SoHo???????? Child please! This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant. Tsk tsk. Yes I did, as I live in both and can acurately make comparisons. I was sentenced to live in Columbus for four hellish years...and IMHO nothing in Columbus can be compared to NYC Wait wait wait...(as a person who's ALSO lived in New York [bK BABY!] in their lifetime)...CLEVELAND and New York neighborhoods can be compared but COLUMBUS neighborhoods and New York can't be...? That's just silly. Next. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 6, 200618 yr i'm so lost, its not funny. According to you tag to the left you're on Payne Avenue! Not sure of the cross street though.
November 6, 200618 yr i'm so lost, its not funny. According to you tag to the left you're on Payne Avenue! Not sure of the cross street though. so how does payne ave compare to soho?
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough SoHo???????? Child please! This, coming from the person who once compared Cleveland and New York neighborhoods to a potential Cleveland transplant. Tsk tsk. Yes I did, as I live in both and can acurately make comparisons. I was sentenced to live in Columbus for four hellish years...and IMHO nothing in Columbus can be compared to NYC Wait wait wait...(as a person who's ALSO lived in New York [bK BABY!] in their lifetime)...CLEVELAND and New York neighborhoods can be compared but COLUMBUS neighborhoods and New York can't be...? That's just silly. Next. BK, cuando y donde? Its not silly...Cleveland can easily be compared with NYC as I laid out in a previous message. Sorry, columbus city proper might be larger than Cleveland, but its still a college town. If ohio state wasn't located in Columbus, it would a smaller blip on the map than it already is! ummmm That's all!
November 6, 200618 yr i'm so lost, its not funny. According to you tag to the left you're on Payne Avenue! Not sure of the cross street though. so how does payne ave compare to soho? not even in the same ballpark! now Dumbo or the williamsburg/green point areas. I see payne going in that direction
November 6, 200618 yr It's almost too much of a delusional post to even respond to. Or perhaps it's MyTwoSense's joking?!?! (Oh, y yo vivimos en Brooklyn en la avenida de Washington en 1994) "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 6, 200618 yr No city compares to NYC. Is that what we want to hear? Okay fine. Moving on... As far as your garden variety midwest tourist is concerned, Columbus offers at least a weekend's worth of big-city feeling and attractions, sans the grit, distance and pricetag of NYC. And again, let me reiterate: no city compares to NYC. Especially if you have a trust fund.
November 6, 200618 yr ^Heh. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 6, 200618 yr It's almost too much of a delusional post to even respond to. Or perhaps it's MyTwoSense's joking?!?! (Oh, y yo vivimos en Brooklyn en la avenida de Washington en 1994) Washington avenue in '94 you're brave! at that time fort green was not cute. Although, the parties at the south oxford tennis club were the bomb!
November 6, 200618 yr Washington Avenue at that time was not that bad, actually. The areas near Bed-Stuy (in Bed-Stuy, I should say) were somewhat bad but in reality, it was just hard-working folks. Claim to fame of Wash Ave in 1994 was that Wesley Snipes lived about three blocks down from where we lived. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough Actually, Lonely Planet dubbed the Short North "Columbus' answer to New York City's SoHo district."
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough Actually, Lonely Planet dubbed the Short North "Columbus' answer to New York City's SoHo district." Why do you think they lonely? Trust me, nobody agreed!
November 6, 200618 yr Basically a low-budget tourist weekend in NYC without all the stuff you don't have time to do. Columbus: SoHo Minus the Dough Actually, Lonely Planet dubbed the Short North "Columbus' answer to New York City's SoHo district." Why do you think they lonely? Trust me, nobody agreed! Again, coming from somebody that just compared Payne Avenue to a future DUMBO. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 6, 200618 yr No city compares to NYC. Is that what we want to hear? Okay fine. Moving on... As far as your garden variety midwest tourist is concerned, Columbus offers at least a weekend's worth of big-city feeling and attractions, sans the grit, distance and pricetag of NYC. And again, let me reiterate: no city compares to NYC. Especially if you have a trust fund. Kingpin, seriously, you're correct! Many NYC neighborhoods are often imitated but never duplicated. Which is a good thing to me! Trust fund babies run NYC, just like my friend from Cleveland Heights who bought a 1.7 m condo. Insane...just insane...all that damn money just to say, "I live in SoHo".
November 6, 200618 yr The only advantage to having Cleveland shit on all the time, is that people know where it is. (Probably more so than Pitt or Cincy.) I generally found that all three are known equally, internationally (due to the "unique" names, I suppose...and sports...). According to old Wiki....that's not necessarily the case. It's C-land and C-bus and no one else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cities But again, I made an assumption about Cincy and Pitt. That's my bad. All I know...a helluva alot of people I encountered in Japan/England know about ole C-land one way or another. I never say I'm from Cincinnati or Pittsburgh...so I probably never will know the popularity of those places over there. I'm sure that there are international travellers from those places that could tell us. :)
November 6, 200618 yr As for responding in this thread. Hell, the article compares Cleveland and Columbus. So blame the Dispatch. You guys actually read the first post, right?
November 6, 200618 yr The only advantage to having Cleveland shit on all the time, is that people know where it is. (Probably more so than Pitt or Cincy.) I generally found that all three are known equally, internationally (due to the "unique" names, I suppose...and sports...). According to old Wiki....that's not necessarily the case. It's C-land and C-bus and no one else. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cities But again, I made an assumption about Cincy and Pitt. That's my bad. All I know...a helluva alot of people I encountered in Japan/England know about ole C-land one way or another. I never say I'm from Cincinnati or Pittsburgh...so I probably never will know the popularity of those places over there. I'm sure that there are international travellers from those places that could tell us. :) London/UK people are familiar with Cleveland since that unmentionable oil company, sent a lot of us Clevelander to London, S. Africa and Australia to work. Also a lot of steel people are in London and Germany. In addition, Bayer is in Germany and the Cleve. Clinic does (or at least did) a lot of collaboration with them. The Cleveland Clinic is a major international player.
November 6, 200618 yr Cleveland is definitely the most internationally known from my experiences. Everytime I've been to Japan and South Korea people immediately know what I'm talking about when I say where I'm from, if only because of the Indians' popularity in Asia. But when I described my (former) university as an hour outside of Columbus they had never heard of the city.
November 6, 200618 yr Cleveland is definitely the most internationally known from my experiences. Everytime I've been to Japan and South Korea people immediately know what I'm talking about when I say where I'm from, if only because of the Indians' popularity in Asia. But when I described my (former) university as an hour outside of Columbus they had never heard of the city. I forgot that Sherwin Williams, Figgie and IMG have a HUGE presence in other countries. Also when TRW was here, they would have a lot of top secret projects.
November 6, 200618 yr No city compares to NYC. Is that what we want to hear? Okay fine. Moving on... As far as your garden variety midwest tourist is concerned, Columbus offers at least a weekend's worth of big-city feeling and attractions, sans the grit, distance and pricetag of NYC. And again, let me reiterate: no city compares to NYC. Especially if you have a trust fund. LOL. You clearly haven't heard Step2Me and ColDayMan's analysis of OTR and Manhattan. :) Tokyo compares to NYC pretty well. Not in the diversity department, but in the "packed in like sardines in sardine can" area. Yeah, Tokyo might even surpass NYC in that category. Even with Jersey City-Dubai 2.
November 6, 200618 yr Washington Avenue at that time was not that bad, actually. The areas near Bed-Stuy (in Bed-Stuy, I should say) were somewhat bad but in reality, it was just hard-working folks. Claim to fame of Wash Ave in 1994 was that Wesley Snipes lived about three blocks down from where we lived. you were on washington and what?
November 6, 200618 yr Tokyo compares to NYC pretty well. Not in the diversity department, but in the "packed in like sardines in sardine can" area. Yeah, Tokyo might even surpass NYC in that category. Even with Jersey City-Dubai 2. ^^Both Tokyo and Seoul are a lot more overwhelming and dense than NYC.
November 6, 200618 yr ^^ Oh yeah, I agree. But NYC people get all wound up about that. So I try to play nice when I'm in the States. Never been to Seoul, but Tokyo is a real monster city, nothing like it in North America. You could argue NYC is quaint compared to Tokyo.
November 6, 200618 yr ^^ Oh yeah, I agree. But NYC people get all wound up about that. So I try to play nice when I'm in the States. Never been to Seoul, but Tokyo is a real monster city, nothing like it in North America. You could argue NYC is quaint compared to Tokyo. Amen to that. Tokyo is just a mess and people live in 200 sq apartments like its nothing. The first time I was in Tokyo I felt like godzilla, I still feel like freak. I just want to scream is there anyone over 5'11" in this place??
November 6, 200618 yr ^^I've been holed up in a hotel 10 mi south of the city center. Near Haneda. I was in their version of Queens but the place was more crowded than most Manhattan neighborhoods.
November 6, 200618 yr just to chime in but my former clevelander friend in brooklyn has been to both seoul and tokyo fairly recently. he would agree re the density. also, it helps in that regard that those cities are just incredablely ancient underneath their modern facades.
November 6, 200618 yr ^^ Tokyo (Edo) ain't that old. It was a small city for a long time. Rome is alot older. And even cities like London and Paris that are more comparable in age were much bigger than Tokyo for a long time. Tokyo is alot like NYC, it didn't really start taking of until the 19th century. But when it took off...damn.
November 6, 200618 yr Yo, that's older than NY by what....150 years? That ain't ancient, yo. Like I said I don't like talking about Tokyo in the States. NYers throw folded pizza at me. :)
November 6, 200618 yr Yo, that's older than NY by what....150 years? That ain't ancient, yo. Like I said I don't like talking about Tokyo in the States. NYers throw folded pizza at me. :) Fahgitaboutit
November 7, 200618 yr It's news to many, but Columbus is actually older than The Sun itself. Older than the Sun Press??
November 7, 200618 yr I wish Columbus would just annex the rest of Ohio already..that way I could just say I live on the "Northside".....(plus I would get paid better being a firefighter for Cbus than I do for Ctown!)
November 7, 200618 yr Washington Avenue at that time was not that bad, actually. The areas near Bed-Stuy (in Bed-Stuy, I should say) were somewhat bad but in reality, it was just hard-working folks. Claim to fame of Wash Ave in 1994 was that Wesley Snipes lived about three blocks down from where we lived. you were on washington and what? Washington and Myrtle, near Pratt. Let's keep this thread on track, folks. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 7, 200618 yr One more thing we need to do is to get more people that live here to appreciate this urban oasis smack dab in the middle of indistinguishable urban sprawl. How can we expect tourists to enjoy this city when many (mostly suburban) locals don't know how? And pretending that the "Discovery District" and "Market Exchange District" (a small section of Main St with 7 new modern looking buildings) are actually districts doesn't help. When was the last time anyone went to the East Town St Historic District which is touted as an amenity for this condo development http://richstreetwalk.com/ for example? Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I do agree with what was said earlier; while we lack singular tourist draws, we have vibrant urban neighborhoods that offer plenty to do, the Short North and German Village being the best examples. Instead of waiting for some huge expensive tourist draw to be built we should work with what we've got.
November 7, 200618 yr Washington Avenue at that time was not that bad, actually. The areas near Bed-Stuy (in Bed-Stuy, I should say) were somewhat bad but in reality, it was just hard-working folks. Claim to fame of Wash Ave in 1994 was that Wesley Snipes lived about three blocks down from where we lived. you were on washington and what? Washington and Myrtle, near Pratt. Let's keep this thread on track, folks. So you were a regular at Mikes? LOL
November 7, 200618 yr Lets face it, if I had to choose between which Ohio city I would want to spend a fun-filled tourist weekend in, Columbus would be 3rd on that list only slightly ahead of Dayton. Columbus tourist attractions = yawn
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