June 20, 201014 yr So if there are that many people on the waiting list for new apartments is the K&D group looking to build new structures soon? or re-model more buildings and turn them into apartments/lofts since there seems to be demand?
June 20, 201014 yr So if there are that many people on the waiting list for new apartments is the K&D group looking to build new structures soon? or re-model more buildings and turn them into apartments/lofts since there seems to be demand? Seems like that's a direct question for K&D and other developers.
June 21, 201014 yr Well, it will make developers who want to do projects similar to 668 make thier case to lenders easier, since there is proof of demand for this type of housing.
June 21, 201014 yr So if there are that many people on the waiting list for new apartments is the K&D group looking to build new structures soon? or re-model more buildings and turn them into apartments/lofts since there seems to be demand? Yes, they are looking at doing more apartments downtown (renovation).
June 21, 201014 yr As much as we were afraid of it, that patio is kind of nice. Having an outdoor bar adds a different dimension to our entertainment strict as well. Plus I've only heard positive reviews of Zinc, including good service. Agreed. After seeing those pictures, I'm pleasantly surprised. They did a nice job with it. And now I'm going to have to check it out! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 23, 201014 yr So if there are that many people on the waiting list for new apartments is the K&D group looking to build new structures soon? or re-model more buildings and turn them into apartments/lofts since there seems to be demand? They tried with the Ameritrust building at East 9th and Euclid but financing didn't work out... But I hear that project may come back.
June 23, 201014 yr ^I don't believe apartments were part of K and D plans for Ameritrust. Their proposal was 50% hotel and 50% apartments for Breuer.
June 24, 201014 yr Agreed. After seeing those pictures, I'm pleasantly surprised. They did a nice job with it. And now I'm going to have to check it out! I didn't eat there, but I cut through to Euclid after a round at Caddyshack Lounge. I thought the patio was really cool when I walked out of 668 onto it. It feels kind of cozy because it is surrounded by buildings of substantial height.
June 24, 201014 yr The more I see that patio, the more I like it. I also really like Zinc's signage on Euclid.
June 24, 201014 yr I took some photos a few days ago of Zinc. I love the outdoor patio! I cannot wait to go there! :) http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31955178&id=53700855
July 1, 201014 yr Zinc received a little write-up yesterday... Zinc in Cleveland serves up classic cocktails Published: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 5:32 PM John Petkovic, The Plain Dealer East Fourth's glass spilleth over ... onto Euclid Avenue. And the glass doesn't taste much better than at Zinc. The newest addition to downtown night life -- 668 Euclid Ave., Cleveland, 216-583-9462 -- boasts a category-killer of a patio. It's cozy, tucked away and surrounded by buildings on three sides. And yet it's spacious, sprawling with a long bar, a fire pit and tables that make for a great alfresco vibe. It's mellow enough for kick-back conversation. But it also goes for a party vibe on Fridays, when it hosts "Party in the Park," which features bands at 5 p.m. http://www.cleveland.com/goingout/index.ssf/2010/06/zinc_in_cleveland_serves_up_cl.html
September 11, 201014 yr It looks like the ground floor office cubicles are being torn apart in the Wyse Advertising space in 668. That's amazing...those are only, what, 5 or 6 months old? Maybe they're going to do something a little more dynamic for that prime location. It'll be interesting to see.
September 11, 201014 yr hopefully! those were awful! hopefully they also de-smoke the glass as well. So ridiculous that they likely pay a premium for that first floor space and then immediately take away the best asset of it
September 22, 201014 yr hopefully! those were awful! hopefully they also de-smoke the glass as well. So ridiculous that they likely pay a premium for that first floor space and then immediately take away the best asset of it Well we may be getting our wish. The frosted glass look is gone(almost fully gone at least). not sure what is replacing it, but I don't think it could be any less involving the street than what was previously there.
September 22, 201014 yr ^Please...how in the world did you come to that conclusion based on the above posts? No seriously. If one of Cleveland's largest advertising agencies went of business don't you think this would have been splash all over the news. If you are questioning did they move...what sense does that make. They just spent hundreds of thousands to move into this space. I just don't understand your question.
September 22, 201014 yr ^ It looked all torn up in there and i was confused or not if they moved for some reason because it was fast to do a redesign. Are they really one of the largest? 85 employees is okay but it wouldn't be a huge move. And I didn't think they went out of business.
September 22, 201014 yr The design was a disaster from a focal standpoint in particular...in what is inherently a street level pedestrian/building interaction kind of space......and belonged in Independence on the 6th floor of a cocoon. Glad to see this coming down. It was like seeing a palm tree in the Rocky Mountains.
September 22, 201014 yr ^ I think the "houses" aspect could have been different and unique, but covering all the windows with the frosted version of their logo was beyond stupid. If the employees wanted some privacy for the their houses then they should have given them blinds. At least they seemed to realize it was terrible and are replacing it.
September 29, 201014 yr Since now one can peer in and see about everything, I hope they come out with a decent, artistic display of some sort, such as with shelves installed next to the windows. Something.
October 3, 201014 yr Someone told me that in order to keep historic tax credits there had to be an 8' setback from the windows. I don't know if that is true, but that is what I was told.
October 3, 201014 yr If I worked in such a place, I would want to be able to see the outside world instead of being cooped up all day behind a fog of snowed windows. ^^^ And yes, I also thought the houses thing could have been a neat thing if made to be seen.
October 4, 201014 yr Since now one can peer in and see about everything, I hope they come out with a decent, artistic display of some sort, such as with shelves installed next to the windows. Something. They have placed chairs and tables next to the windows. Now there is basically a hallway in front of the windows, with a frosted "Wyse" logo. beyond the hallway are the offices from the "houses" these are now pretty small. Also the windows for the offices are whited out. Not sure it will improve the street scene much, but I think its better than frosted out main windows.
October 13, 201014 yr The change here at Wyse is marginally better but I'll take it in a heartbeat over what was there. I'm going on the premise that it's completed. Now it gives off a faint vibe of a department store home furnishings area --emphasize 'faint'. It fits better, although more things to look at would help...they could go with the home furnishings theme and put a shelf full of Lalique or something (that's understated... if that's how it is supposed to be). It'd have been nice to see some brighter colors chosen. All in all it's not bad.
October 13, 201014 yr It's certainly better without the frosted windows, but the tables and chairs look cheap and out of place. As do the planters randomly scattered around. All in all, the whole display seems like an afterthought.
October 14, 201014 yr ^First part of your post sounds great...supporting downtown merchants! Second part...not gonna happen.
November 11, 201014 yr They removed the frosted film from 668 by the way, and the advertising company has put up fake storefront in front of those stupid huts. Looks a little better I guess.
March 17, 201114 yr Does anyone else think 668 looks a little out of place? Not having a building on either side makes it look a bit strange to me.
March 17, 201114 yr ^I think most of us are still busy marveling how much better 668 looks than before :). But yeah, I really miss the old Dollar Bank building and hope the old Hippodrome lot is built on again someday to build that street wall back up.
March 17, 201114 yr Oh I am definitely happy about the improvement! Love the added residents as well. The building itself looks great. Now lets just get that lot filled in and everything would be great!
March 17, 201114 yr It'll look less strange if they ever put up the penthouse level, but I'm doubtful that will actually happen.
April 1, 201114 yr Ladies with the management told me the other day the plans for constructing the ninth floor are kaput.
April 19, 201114 yr Titan's Gym is gaining a ton of new memberships from Groupon...check it out: http://www.groupon.com/deals/titans-gym?c=dnb&p=6
April 19, 201114 yr I wish they would wrap the upper facade around the sides somehow. It looks great when viewed directly from the front, but looking west down Euclid, you can see it's a false front and the lateral supports in place... kinda cheesey
April 19, 201114 yr Ladies with the management told me the other day the plans for constructing the ninth floor are kaput. I've gotta believe they never really intended to built it then. This apartment building has been a massive success and if they can't construct the additional floor with that kind of demand then they probably never intended to in the first place. Sure, credit is tight... but it's not THAT tight. Especially for projects that have already shown success.
April 19, 201114 yr They essentially "bought the project" and initial plans. The initial renderings which showed the penthouse floor were drawn by another architect. They bought in their own guy after they acquired the property and moved forward with their own vision which obviously didn't include the penthouse. Like I said, I'm just rather surprised SHPO allowed it particuarly after the fuss they made about the storefronts.
November 23, 201113 yr The golf place on the Prospect side of 668 appears to be gone. Is that a recent development (or un-development as the case may be)? I also read in another thread that Zinc bit the dust and is being replaced.
February 27, 201213 yr The old zinc is going to be Hodges, from Hodge podge & dim dem sum food truck chef Chris hodge. He also came in 2nd on food truck wars on food network.
February 27, 201213 yr The golf place on the Prospect side of 668 appears to be gone. Is that a recent development (or un-development as the case may be)? I also read in another thread that Zinc bit the dust and is being replaced. The old golf place will become a coffee shop. A large one at that--with some room for live music.
February 27, 201213 yr The old golf place will become a coffee shop. A large one at that--with some room for live music. Good. I'm pissed that in less than a month after I moved into the City Club building, the coffee shop closed for a damn noodle place. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 201213 yr The old golf place will become a coffee shop. A large one at that--with some room for live music. Good. I'm pissed that in less than a month after I moved into the City Club building, the coffee shop closed for a damn noodle place. There's always another coffee place. There's only one Noodlecat. :)
February 27, 201213 yr Then take the noodles to 668 and leave me the coffee shop. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 201213 yr I think you two might be talking about different noodle places. Wouldn't this coffee shop be closer than Noodlecat to the City Club Bldg?
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