Posted December 5, 200717 yr Can we come up with a list of all beers currently brewed in Ohio or those with sufficient minimum contacts to Ohio to qualify as Ohio beers? Off the top of my head: Buckeye Brewing Company Akron Brewing Co. Christian Morelien Little Kings Hudy Great Lakes Columbus Brewing Co. I am sure there are others
December 5, 200717 yr do you mean for distribution or just and brewery? There are many brew pubs ie-Brew Kettle, Rocky River and Willoughby. Thirsty Dog also distributes some. In Cleveland there is a new organic ( I believe)brewery on Carnegie, but cannot recall the name.
December 5, 200717 yr There are rock bottoms in Cincinnati and Cleveland. There is also a great micro brewery in Columbus on the marathon route, don't know the name
December 5, 200717 yr the only one I went to in Columbus was Barley Hoppers, and it was just dandy! We could had U-brew places too. I just made some Marzen and Brown Ale this weekend at the Brew Keeper mentioned above,with some coworkers (this is a very interesting and fun expereince, btw!)
December 5, 200717 yr do you mean for distribution or just and brewery? There are many brew pubs ie-Brew Kettle, Rocky River and Willoughby. Thirsty Dog also distributes some. In Cleveland there is a new organic ( I believe)brewery on Carnegie, but cannot recall the name. Does anyone know what the name of the brewery on Carnegie is? Do they sell by the bottle (i.e. 12 pack or case) or just kegs? I am always looking for new beers and as I drive down Carnegie everyday, I can pick myself some up. As far as Sam Adams goes, I would just clasify that as a domestic. They are too large to be considered microbrew.
December 5, 200717 yr How do you classify Sam Adams? Preferable to Bud Light, but inferior to Great Lakes, Buckeye Brewing, etc. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
December 5, 200717 yr I didn't mean what you think of Sam Adams as a beer or whether it is a micro, I meant whether it qualifies as an Ohio beer. Read thomasbw's first sentence. Most of the production happens at the Liberty Street brewery, but it's understood as a Boston beer.
December 5, 200717 yr I guess this doesn't count being it is not current. As teenagers we had a name for this beer that wouldn't go over well here. :-D
December 5, 200717 yr ^ I think I'm confusing that beer with some other. It says POC closed in 1964, I wasn't born yet.
December 5, 200717 yr I didn't mean what you think of Sam Adams as a beer or whether it is a micro, I meant whether it qualifies as an Ohio beer. Read thomasbw's first sentence. Most of the production happens at the Liberty Street brewery, but it's understood as a Boston beer. in that case the thread would go for budweiser too given the big plant in columbus. i remember when i lived at the continent sometimes you could smell the hops brewing. we would walk over there for freebies for happy hour - lol! re: poc aww let's not hold back, poc officially stood for pilsner on call, but it was also well-known as....wait for it....p*ss on cleveland. i do believe poc was still served at the old muni stadium at least into the 80's -- even long after it was not made in cleveland anymore, but i could be wrong on that. another old locally brewed muni stadium fav was carling black label. i think they had schlitz too and that was about it. all crappy beers, perfect for the browns and tribe of the 60's-70's!
December 5, 200717 yr My dad used to drink POC. He left us in the early 8o's, so this would make the time I recall seeing it as around the mid to late 70's. I know it was out of production, but somehow he was still drinking it then.
December 5, 200717 yr Does anyone know what the name of the brewery on Carnegie is? Do they sell by the bottle (i.e. 12 pack or case) or just kegs? I am always looking for new beers and as I drive down Carnegie everyday, I can pick myself some up. Moulton Brewing. Has anyone tried the stuff yet? I'm really curious. Not sure if they are really organic, but they claim their beer has unusual health benefits or something.
December 5, 200717 yr I thought Carling was Canadian? edit: a quick google search revealed that it was originally Canadian, then was bought out by the Cleveland and Sandusky Brewering Company. It was produced in Cleveland during that period. Later the ownership bounced around and alot of regional breweries were built around the country, but as their fortunes declined in the 70's and 80's most of those closed.
December 5, 200717 yr yes it is canadian, but like bud in columbus they brewed it in cleveland too. edit: ahh thx for the search x. i thought i remembered a revival of black label in the late 80's, but wasnt sure. must have been true, but for sure it didnt last long. that explains it. i also forgot it was actually owned by a cleveland brewery too. i should have remembered that from my beer can collecting days - heh. musky i think after the brewery closed in cleveland poc was revived and brewed by someone else for awhile. it might have been g. heilman brewery from wisconsin, they liked to revive old local classic beers in the 70's-80's, but i'm not sure. anyhoo someone else brewing it would explain poc still being around up to the 80's. here's more about the brewery: http://www.ohiobreweriana.com/library/holdings/pilsener.shtml ps -- if anybody wants to see some old local cleveland brewery signs stop by great lakes, they have lots of local brewery memorabilia hanging up around the place. no surprize there is a book too, the breweries of cleveland: http://www.beerbooks.com/cgi/ps4.cgi?ACTION=[ENTER]&thispage=1114&ORDER_ID=!ORDERID!
December 5, 200717 yr anyhoo someone else brewing it would explain poc still being around up to the 80's I thought I remember drinking it in HS and the can said Cleveland, OH on it (hence the name). So maybe it was all just a dream? :| One thing for certain it was cheap and nasty.
December 5, 200717 yr here's the whole convoluted, but interesting carling black label story: http://heymabelblacklabel.com/id23.htm "Carling Black Label is still brewed at Miller breweries under contract to Pabst at Eden, N.C., and Trenton, Ohio." trenton, ohio bonus trivia -- from a peak of 26 breweries in 1910, schmidt's was the last of the old line breweries in the city to close. that was 1984. hard to believe, but cleveland actually brewed no beer from 1984-1988. those were four dark years! 1988 was when great lakes opened. more here: http://ech.case.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=BADI anybody remember erin brew near beer? it used to be a cleveland brand, but i think somebody else made it in the 80's. it was fake beer. another ohio beer book: http://www.beerbooks.com/cgi/ps4.cgi?action=enter&thispage=1368&order_id=!ORDERID! fun thread!
December 5, 200717 yr Oh, Mt Carmel. Ahh...Mt. Carmel Copper is like a dream in your mouth. That is good stuff. The stout is also not bad at all.
December 6, 200717 yr I believe the owner/founder of Sam Adams was from Cincinnati so there is more of a connection to Ohio then just having a plant. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
December 6, 200717 yr How do you classify Sam Adams? Preferable to Bud Light, but inferior to Great Lakes, Buckeye Brewing, etc. My 'neighborhood bar' (about 100 feet from my house) has Great Lakes bottles for 1 dollar! That's like a regular thing for them, too.
December 7, 200717 yr Cross post from Cleveland Tyler Village: new brewery coming to Cleveland: http://www.indigoimpbrewing.com/
December 8, 200717 yr Carling is British. They sponsor soccer teams like Celtic FC in Glasgow. edit: Oh, there are different carlings....
February 2, 200817 yr I wonder if this explains why we have so little info on Moulton: http://www.tmz.com/2008/02/01/brewery-sues-over-best-idea-ever/
February 7, 200817 yr cross posting: I am still sorry I did not post this last year. The Rock Bottom is hosting our local breweries and brew pubs again on Sat Feb 9th from 1-9pm . The cost is $20.00 for more samples than you can drink. It was a really great time last year and sold out. Every local brewery you can think of participated, some breaking out secret stashes you don't get in the pubs, like Great Lakes barley wine and some oak barrel conditioned winter beers from at least 2 breweries. I think the link it too long to post, so you may just want to try and get to the main Rock Bottom site and go to Cleveland store to get further info ( http://www.rockbottom.com/RockBottomWeb/RBR/Home.aspx) . It is great chance to show support for our local breweries and kudos to Rock Bottom, a chain (generally a boo/hiss in my book) for having the community good sense to host as well as promote and support our local brewers in this centrally located event.
February 7, 200817 yr ^I have only been to Cleveland's Rock Bottom once (and it was a at least 7 years ago). Back then, they had several beers that had Cleveland-themed names. Do they brew the same beers in each city and then give them different names? I find it hard to believe that each location would have their own recipes.
February 7, 200817 yr ^I have only been to Cleveland's Rock Bottom once (and it was a at least 7 years ago). Back then, they had several beers that had Cleveland-themed names. Do they brew the same beers in each city and then give them different names? I find it hard to believe that each location would have their own recipes. I would imagine, we have cincinnati american light, tall stacks ale, redlegs something
February 7, 200817 yr ^I have only been to Cleveland's Rock Bottom once (and it was a at least 7 years ago). Back then, they had several beers that had Cleveland-themed names. Do they brew the same beers in each city and then give them different names? I find it hard to believe that each location would have their own recipes. I asked the same question myself to the brewer quite a while ago. He said each brewer has to brew certain styles, ie a porter, ale, red, light, wheat etc. They then attach a regional name to it. They do NOT have to follow a company recipe, rather have some discretion as long as it is within the style guidelines. That is why what is Walleye wheat here and White Shark Wheat in San Diego will probably taste different. All that said, I think the specialty beers tend to be much better than the more mainstream staples. right now they have a tasty scotch ale. Also it should be noted that the pint glasses and tshirts make interesting gifts as they have Cleve-Scapes (ie flats/powerhouse/river) on them
February 7, 200817 yr mmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Mount Carmel Copper.... By far my favorite in Cincy. :drunk: :drunk: :drunk:
February 7, 200817 yr cross posting: I am still sorry I did not post this last year. The Rock Bottom is hosting our local breweries and brew pubs again on Sat Feb 9th from 1-9pm . The cost is $20.00 for more samples than you can drink. It was a really great time last year and sold out. Every local brewery you can think of participated, some breaking out secret stashes you don't get in the pubs, like Great Lakes barley wine and some oak barrel conditioned winter beers from at least 2 breweries. I think the link it too long to post, so you may just want to try and get to the main Rock Bottom site and go to Cleveland store to get further info ( http://www.rockbottom.com/RockBottomWeb/RBR/Home.aspx) . It is great chance to show support for our local breweries and kudos to Rock Bottom, a chain (generally a boo/hiss in my book) for having the community good sense to host as well as promote and support our local brewers in this centrally located event. I don't see anything about it on RB's website. If I want to go, do I need to get tickets in advance, or can we just show up?
February 8, 200817 yr You have to dig in the website a little, into Cleveland under "our place". When we bought out tickets last night, it is about 3/4 sold out with little or no advertising (400 tickets will cap it), so they can only sell at the door what is left. I am told participating brewers got tickets to sell (meaning you could maybe purchase at a participating pub) . But some sold out their allotment (ie great lakes). One of the things I heard yesterday that kind of bummed me out is the brewers may stagger their tables meaning not all 14 will be operating from 1-9pm. I say show up in the middle to get the most if you cannot do a marathon. You can always call the Rockbottom to get the details. Maybe you can order on the phone and do "will call" . :yap:
February 8, 200817 yr back when they were small startup, columbus brewing company used to make a nut brown ale that i liked a lot, but i see they don't make it anymore. the pale ale was good too, i see they still make that. i know they have a pub now and i also read they had some kind of shake up a few years ago. how are their brews these days? ps -- brews and brewpubs aside, would anyone care to list ohio's great "craft beer bars?" ie., pubs that don't necessarily make their own, but have lots of good stuff in bottles and on tap? i am thinking of places like the harbor inn in the flats in cleve. others? here's my craft beer bar tip -- when in ny be sure to stop by my fav joint, the blind tiger in the village: http://blindtigeralehouse.com/page/o9a9/Draught_List.html
February 8, 200817 yr Well, on the west side of Cleveland, there is: Beer Engine Brew Kettle Bier Markt Tremont Tap House Melt
February 9, 200817 yr I recently tried Columbus Brewering Co.'s Christmas Ale and wasn't impressed. It was spiced with Cinnamon, but the spicing was overpowering.
February 9, 200817 yr I give two votes to the Christian Moerlein Emancipator Doppel Bock. Try it, if you haven't already.
February 11, 200817 yr Well, I tried to buy tickets to the Winter Warmer festival on Friday, but it was already sold out. Peabody or anyone else who went, how was it?
February 11, 200817 yr wow. sorry that happened. I think the capacity was something like 400 people so that is quite a turnout. It was great. I heard the draw was even out of state. A lot of the breweries pulled out a special brew you cannot get on the shelves or in the bar, or is either in short supply at the bar. The only complaint, if you can call it a complaint, is the alcohol content was really high on a lot of these brews (10%+++). I barely made it through a few samples, and it was time to go. They were so well done though, you could not taste the alcohol. Lots of Imperial stouts, Belgian syles, wintery things. A few IPA's(not my thing so I did not try). Great Lakes had a bourbon barrel conditioned Black Out Stout, as well as some aged Christmas Ale. wow. My fave was probably a Saison from the chop house.... This is the best value and variety I have seen in a local beer fest for sure. I am trying to talk the brewer into doing a summer brew fest down in the PD pavilion on the river. Can you imagine all those great summer brews, bridges and boats, oh yeah!
February 12, 200817 yr Wow, that sounds fantastic. My friend and I were talking and we wondered if maybe they would expand it in the coming years. Like you said, they've sold out 400+ both years with no advertising. Maybe grow it into a nice regional festival. A summer fest would be awesome as well, since they would have a larger capacity at an outdoor venue. Of course, bigger doesn't always mean better, so I'll just try and remember to get tickets early next year.
February 12, 200817 yr Just found this thread.. Its kind of a topic near and dear to me.. :drunk: Anyways an excellent source of information is via the free paper called Brew News. The current issue lists all the breweries in Ohio and gives a nice update on whats happening in the next 6 months. Here's the Ohio chapter's website an excellent source of beer news: www.ohiobeerguide.com Also for those who missed the "Winter Warmer II" there is the "Ogre Fest" happening at Brew Kettle. This is all week long and has lots o high alcohol beers from around the country on tap. www.thebrewkettle.com
February 12, 200817 yr I think OH really does have an apprecitive community for fine brew. I have not been to Ogre Fest yet. ..its a little far for city mice to travel and drink strong beer. I love the brew kettle though. Not much on atmoshere, but it has the best selection of micro guests in the area. Also, if you brew, it is supposed to have the best staff and facilities. I hate that Strongsville gets to have this. I wonder if they even appreciate it in the land of budlite. I would say for the most part the Rock Bottom event was for aficionados, but also some people who are just starting to get turned on to the stuff were there. The double edged sword is if craft brews get too popular, than the big companies buy them out and destroy them-sometimes intentionally, sometimes b/c they are all business and cut costs and quality. As a side note 400 sounds like a lot of people, but the venue was huge and spread out over 3 floors, and you never had to wiat more than a few seconds in line, if at all. Plus not all 400 were there at the same time.
February 12, 200817 yr In the latest Brew News it states that the Brew Kettle was voted the best brewpub in the US in 2007 by ratebeer.com and it will be expanding. They will move their primary kitchen preparation and new 20 barrel system a mile away from their current location. They will add more taps to current location as well as more Brew on Premise kettles. They will then look at adding more Brew Kettles locations as well as catering. I'd say Winking Lizard has some competition...
February 13, 200817 yr I say that the Ohio City area can support more beer. I am not kidding. We can always support a good cause. Everytime I have fill out a comment card at the kettle, I say, "it would be Ok to come to Cleveland, you know". I think it blows the lizard out of the water b/c of the # of taps, and it is all small breweries, where as the Lizard supports many places (and you can get a good brew), but they tend to be larger breweries. I am all about supporting the smaller breweries. The stuff is usually better too.
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