February 28, 20214 yr 4 hours ago, marty15 said: Are we talking residential? Or tech/office? Or both? He didn't say. I would assume residential. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 20214 yr Clearly, he’s getting ready to unveil nuCLEus phase 2 Edited February 28, 20214 yr by Husat77
February 28, 20214 yr Damnit, why does this guy even try. Leave it alone man. Your mark on this world will forever be Crocker park
February 28, 20214 yr I heard rumblings a while back that some developer wanted a Dave and Busters in the area. The context was that there was a bit of a brewing conflict between the City Mission and the city because the City Mission has some expansion aspirations, but the city wanted a particular parcel for the Dave and Busters. Anybody else heard something along these lines?
March 1, 20214 yr Update on Warner & Swasey building: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/03/redevelopment-of-clevelands-warner-swasey-factory-could-get-1m-from-cuyahoga-county.html
March 1, 20214 yr More than just about anything in Cleveland I am most excited for this. It's unfortunate that redevelopment in this area is just starting to get into full swing because there are some really kick ass buildings that are immediately fronting the sidewalk. It's like an urban factory setting that you just can't find anymore and would make for awesome places to live. This is one of the few structures that is even remotely salvageable. I live in this neighborhood I only want the best for it. As a side note lots of little houses here and there getting renovated including one called "The Oscar" I'm curious about at 55th and outhwaite if anyone has extra info. Edited March 1, 20214 yr by FutureboyWonder
March 4, 20214 yr On 3/1/2021 at 3:25 PM, FutureboyWonder said: More than just about anything in Cleveland I am most excited for this. It's unfortunate that redevelopment in this area is just starting to get into full swing because there are some really kick ass buildings that are immediately fronting the sidewalk. It's like an urban factory setting that you just can't find anymore and would make for awesome places to live. This is one of the few structures that is even remotely salvageable. I live in this neighborhood I only want the best for it. As a side note lots of little houses here and there getting renovated including one called "The Oscar" I'm curious about at 55th and outhwaite if anyone has extra info. I'll just say there's no new plats in that neck of the woods (book/page), that specific property (where 'The Oscar' is, 124-03-051) was transferred in August 2020, sold for $17,500. Not seeing anything with Cleveland permits...
March 4, 20214 yr 16 minutes ago, GISguy said: I'll just say there's no new plats in that neck of the woods (book/page), that specific property (where 'The Oscar' is, 124-03-051) was transferred in August 2020, sold for $17,500. Not seeing anything with Cleveland permits... I noticed a giant dumpster outside of it with some innards so I was particularly curious. It's an attractive structure and quite a few other homes and buildings have been or are being renovated around there so fingers crossed.
March 4, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, FutureboyWonder said: I noticed a giant dumpster outside of it with some innards so I was particularly curious. It's an attractive structure and quite a few other homes and buildings have been or are being renovated around there so fingers crossed. Oh yeah, streetviewing that it's gorgeous, glad it's getting some work! Cleveland's websites are all messed up right now and I know their permitting office is useless. Also, I wonder how much building inspectors care if they're actively fixing up a building that's a few years away from being torn down.
March 4, 20214 yr and its also possible someone is doing major work but didn't need or just didn't get a permit.
March 5, 20214 yr On 2/27/2021 at 12:11 PM, cadmen said: What is it with this guy (Stark)? He has more plans than he does development. Maybe that's his real title. Planner, not developer. "Look at this plan. Wait, here's a cool one. How 'bout this one? Wow, this is really fun." Just came across this job posting for Stark: "Director of Land Acquisition for AL, NC, SC and GA. Stark Enterprises, a successful real estate developer with a diverse portfolio (www.starkenterprises.com) and over 8 million square feet of residential, mixed use, retail, office, student housing, and hotel space, is preparing to launch a new residential community concept. Initial states includes Florida, Alabama, Georgia, North and South Carolina. "It's All About the Experience" and we will deliver."
March 6, 20214 yr Warner & Swasey News. https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/whats-going-on-with/cuyahoga-county-considering-1-000-000-loan-for-mixed-use-housing-project-in-midtown-cleveland
March 9, 20214 yr Cleveland board OKs transformation of former MidTown school into manufacturing hub Eric Heisig - Cleveland.com - Mar. 8, 2021 "A Cleveland board on Monday gave its blessing to plans by a manufacturing-focused nonprofit to use a former school building in the city’s MidTown neighborhood as a hub for startups and to teach students about the field. The Manufacturing Advocacy and Growth Network, also known as MAGNET, plans to use the former Margaret Ireland School as a space it can provide to startups who may not need or have the means to obtain their own factory. The Cleveland Metropolitan School District will also use some of the 80,000 square-foot building as classroom space. The nonprofit will also call the building at East 63rd Street and Chester Avenue its new home, and plans to finish the renovations by summer 2022, President and CEO Ethan Karp said."
March 12, 20214 yr so happy about warner & swasey -- thats very big news. and it will be a real mix, so even better. i wish they could save at least something of the iconic old factory sheds, like the one closest to intact row on the left had side here, instead of ripping it all away for parking, but i guess that is too big an ask. seems like a perfect structure for a little market day or swap meet day or something. Edited March 12, 20214 yr by mrnyc
March 17, 20214 yr 43 minutes ago, X said: It sounds like this is HQ, not a dispatch point. Right-I'm still surprised there are that many spaces! I guess it's big business!
March 17, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, Cleburger said: Right-I'm still surprised there are that many spaces! I guess it's big business! From the article: "Minute Men has hundreds of corporate employees and tens of thousands of workers in its staffing pool." No word as to how many corporate jobs are at that location currently, but its doubling. The addition is 45k square feet, vs the current structure which is 38k. We are talking a fairly large HQ here. They're one of the largest staffing services in the country.
March 17, 20214 yr They also do payroll, workers comp, and HR for companies. I would imagine that's a lot of what goes on at their HQ.
March 18, 20214 yr On 3/12/2021 at 12:01 PM, mrnyc said: so happy about warner & swasey -- thats very big news. and it will be a real mix, so even better. i wish they could save at least something of the iconic old factory sheds, like the one closest to intact row on the left had side here, instead of ripping it all away for parking, but i guess that is too big an ask. seems like a perfect structure for a little market day or swap meet day or something. Really is sad that the factory sheds can't be saved - just another piece of Cleveland industrial history lost that we'll never get back. One would think they'd make a good resource for protected parking, but I'd also suspect that the supporting members don't support proper vehicular circulation, or some other similar structural issue. Too bad. Edited March 18, 20214 yr by ASP1984
March 18, 20214 yr @ASP1984 I would love some stylish shaded parking, especially under an array of solar panels. That roof line (easily re-imagined as a well vented canopy) is currently as cool as anything in town. So yeah... What gives with that, City of Cleveland? This year's Pritzker Prize for Architecture winners should be a lighted-candle for the leaders of our city. Check out this great related article linked below about a prize-winning French firm that is helping the world move our thinking on the reuse of historic spaces by respecting what is already available: "Sometimes the Answer is to Do Nothing" Article: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/mar/16/lacaton-vassal-unflashy-french-architectures-pritzker-prize Edited March 18, 20214 yr by ExPatClevGuy
March 18, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: @ASP1984 I would love some stylish shaded parking, especially under an array of solar panels. That roof line (easily re-imagined as a well vented canopy) is currently as cool as anything in town. So yeah... What gives with that, City of Cleveland? This year's Pritzker Prize for Architecture winners should be a lighted-candle for the leaders of our city. Check out this great related article linked below about a prize-winning French firm that is helping the world move our thinking on the reuse of historic spaces by respecting what is already available: "Sometimes the Answer is to Do Nothing" Article: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/mar/16/lacaton-vassal-unflashy-french-architectures-pritzker-prize I love rehabs and really believe in the ethics of reusing what you've got. Unfortunately in America, regulations, and more importantly, financial incentives, heavily favor new construction. Historic tax credits are one of the few exceptions. When you factor in life cycle costs and embedded energy, rehabs are much better for the environment, even if they aren't as efficient or well insulated. Plus rehabs are more labor intensive meaning more of the cost goes to local labor and material, as opposed to new construction that relies primarily on cheap materials manufactured elsewhere, with local labor costs kept as low as possible. This is why rehabs tend to be more expensive, but because the money stays local, more reason to incentivize it. There are other benefits to incentivize preservation, but sustainability and economics are powerful arguments and aren't used enough when discussing preservation/rehab projects and subsidies.
March 18, 20214 yr 17 hours ago, ASP1984 said: Really is sad that the factory sheds can't be saved - just another piece of Cleveland industrial history lost that we'll never get back. One would think they'd make a good resource for protected parking, but I'd also suspect that the supporting members don't support proper vehicular circulation, or some other similar structural issue. Too bad. I think the money spent on fixing those sheds up would put a strain on the overall budget. I agree it would be awesome if they were kept, but I also understand the decision to spend the money on the building and not the parking. I view this as sacrificing a pawn to save the queen.
March 18, 20214 yr As a structural element that will requires zero IT infrastructure, plumbing, electrical, or HVAC, I wonder what kind of costs are under consideration when it comes to making such a sacrifice(?) A reason this building is considered so unique & exciting, and why as much has been stabilized as is currently visible - is due to the public's interest in its historic preservation. ...After all is said and done, what else is it about this building physically that makes it so incredibly unique and reflective of Cleveland's contributions to the industrial age? Is there anyplace else standing that is as reflective of Cleveland's very significant contributions; architectural, commercial, industrial, or otherwise to the nation and the world? Those pavilions connected to that impressive tower are among THE BEST OF CLEVELAND in a nutshell. They are one of those rare & important types of elements that makes a place a place. Edited March 18, 20214 yr by ExPatClevGuy
March 18, 20214 yr I dont think the sheds are necessarily coming down. The full presentation for this project has them staying as cover for parking. Let me see if I can dig it up
March 18, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, freefourur said: I dont think the sheds are necessarily coming down. The full presentation for this project has them staying as cover for parking. Let me see if I can dig it up Thought I read the same as well.
March 18, 20214 yr Back when I first reported on this project in 2019: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/04/developers-discover-midtowns-other-axis.html I shared these items: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20214 yr 15 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said: Lol - wouldn't be the first time we on the UrbanOhio Forum lost sight of things, only to have KJP find our glasses and hand them back to us. Thanks KJP!
March 19, 20214 yr I lose my glasses sometimes too.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 22, 20214 yr well, so this project just escalated from a long welcome and fantastic renovation to an absolutely outstanding renovation and repurposing!
March 26, 20214 yr Construction fencing for Cleveland Foundation HQ going up! RIP Terdolph Park 🙏🏼 Edited March 26, 20214 yr by marty15
March 26, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, marty15 said: Construction fencing for Cleveland Foundation HQ going up! RIP Terdolph Park 🙏🏼 Hopefully they throw in a nice memorial placard or statue.
March 26, 20214 yr 1 minute ago, skiwest said: Who/what is Terdolph? He was a forumer that had some... out there opinions. One of them was that this should not be built because we need the green space, and that they should put a park in this location instead.
April 7, 20214 yr Dream Hotel update buried in this article: Owner of Masonic Temple in Cleveland sues Live Nation, claiming promoter is muscling venue out of shows https://www.cleveland.com/business/2021/04/owner-of-masonic-temple-in-cleveland-sues-live-nation-claiming-promoter-is-muscling-venue-out-of-shows.html CLEVELAND, Ohio — The owner of the Masonic Temple in Cleveland’s Midtown neighborhood sued Live Nation in federal court, claiming the concert-promoting giant is acting vengefully and in essence preventing shows from being booked at the 100-year-old venue. ... TempleLive announced last year that they planned to build a 19-story, 207-room hotel atop the southern portion of the Masonic Temple. They partnered with Dream Hotel Group of New York for the project, which is estimated to be a $60 million investment and would also include a 400-space parking garage. The owners planned to open the hotel by next year. However, those plans have been delayed because of the coronavirus pandemic. Beaty said he is just “dusting off” the project and will move forward with it, though is now eyeing a 2023 completion. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
April 7, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Agreene said: Cleveland foundation HQ as of 4/6/21 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Keep the drone shots coming!
April 7, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Dream Hotel update buried in this article: Owner of Masonic Temple in Cleveland sues Live Nation, claiming promoter is muscling venue out of shows https://www.cleveland.com/business/2021/04/owner-of-masonic-temple-in-cleveland-sues-live-nation-claiming-promoter-is-muscling-venue-out-of-shows.html CLEVELAND, Ohio — The owner of the Masonic Temple in Cleveland’s Midtown neighborhood sued Live Nation in federal court, claiming the concert-promoting giant is acting vengefully and in essence preventing shows from being booked at the 100-year-old venue. ... TempleLive announced last year that they planned to build a 19-story, 207-room hotel atop the southern portion of the Masonic Temple. They partnered with Dream Hotel Group of New York for the project, which is estimated to be a $60 million investment and would also include a 400-space parking garage. The owners planned to open the hotel by next year. However, those plans have been delayed because of the coronavirus pandemic. Beaty said he is just “dusting off” the project and will move forward with it, though is now eyeing a 2023 completion. That would mean that they would have to start construction by the end of this year or early next year to be open in 2023. Hope so! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 7, 20214 yr ^ I've got to confess I only skimmed through that article initially, and my very first thought was "there's no way this bodes well for the Dream Hotel." Glad to hear it's unaffected. Once the hotel gets built, maybe Live Nation will look back and feel some regret about trying to screw over TempleLive. How many concert venues are there that have swanky hotels attached? I can't think of many. If I were a touring musician or a manager, the immediate connection to a very nice hotel would make me a lot more interested in booking the venue.
April 8, 20214 yr On 4/7/2021 at 9:50 AM, LlamaLawyer said: ^ I've got to confess I only skimmed through that article initially, and my very first thought was "there's no way this bodes well for the Dream Hotel." Glad to hear it's unaffected. Once the hotel gets built, maybe Live Nation will look back and feel some regret about trying to screw over TempleLive. How many concert venues are there that have swanky hotels attached? I can't think of many. If I were a touring musician or a manager, the immediate connection to a very nice hotel would make me a lot more interested in booking the venue. As a touring music manager professional, you NEVER want to stay in a hotel attached to a venue. Too many drunk fans roaming about.
April 8, 20214 yr 9 minutes ago, Cleburger said: As a touring music manager professional, you NEVER want to stay in a hotel attached to a venue. Too many drunk fans roaming about. Too many opportunities for shenanigans
April 8, 20214 yr 7 hours ago, inlovewithCLE said: Too many opportunities for shenanigans With the older artists I work with, it really is just more a function of rest and relaxation. If we want a party, we'll find it. We certainly don't want to be forced to live in one by returning to a hotel attached to a venue. We also don't want our bus drivers staying there as they sleep during the day while we are at the show. The crew would be ok, so long as they are driving after the show overnight on buses.
April 9, 20214 yr Can't help reading these posts and not think of Swingos scenes in Almost Famous. Also, I'd sure love to buy that hotel and update it to a boutique music history spot....if anyone wants to go in on it with me.
April 11, 20214 yr SUNDAY, APRIL 11, 2021 Temperatures rising? So is Cleveland With the arrival of spring and warmer weather, it's time for planting. And several long-planned projects are about to rise up out of the ground. And finally.... Renovation of the Warner & Swasey property, 5701 Carnegie Ave., may go out to bid before July, according to the Dodge Reports. At full buildout, Pennrose Properties of Philadelphia is seeking to redevelop the property for $53 million with 140 senior and workforce housing units. That could result in construction starting on the first phase in late-summer. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/04/temperatures-rising-so-is-cleveland.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, KJP said: SUNDAY, APRIL 11, 2021 Temperatures rising? So is Cleveland With the arrival of spring and warmer weather, it's time for planting. And several long-planned projects are about to rise up out of the ground. And finally.... Renovation of the Warner & Swasey property, 5701 Carnegie Ave., may go out to bid before July, according to the Dodge Reports. At full buildout, Pennrose Properties of Philadelphia is seeking to redevelop the property for $53 million with 140 senior and workforce housing units. That could result in construction starting on the first phase in late-summer. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/04/temperatures-rising-so-is-cleveland.html I will not stop holding my breath until this thing is really up running Edited April 11, 20214 yr by FutureboyWonder
April 11, 20214 yr Breathe! No development project is worth suffocation! 🤢 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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