I hadn't realized that Warner & Swasey is supposed to get some ARPA money from the city. Will that be enough to get the project off the ground in likelihood?

1 minute ago, LlamaLawyer said:

I hadn't realized that Warner & Swasey is supposed to get some ARPA money from the city. Will that be enough to get the project off the ground in likelihood?

I would hope that any project which receives once in a lifetime ARPA funds has been vetted well enough that there is an assurance the project will move forward and most likely it was this money that was needed to put it over the top finance wise.

 

On 10/21/2021 at 12:37 PM, marty15 said:

Take a closer look. Nothing traditional wood framing about it.

I see wood columns (vertical), wood beams (left / right), wood joists (between the beams). This is traditional construction typology.

This is what a mass timber floor system looks like.

beautiful..!!

3 hours ago, yanni_gogolak said:

I see wood columns (vertical), wood beams (left / right), wood joists (between the beams). This is traditional construction typology.

This is what a mass timber floor system looks like.

The Cleveland foundation building is Mass timber.

 

I don't even think a commercial office building with traditional wood frame construction is allowed by code.

23 hours ago, Mov2Ohio said:

The Cleveland foundation building is Mass timber.

 

I don't even think a commercial office building with traditional wood frame construction is allowed by code.

It most certainly is.

Construction typology limits the size and heights of your buildings in association with use. You can do almost any type of use out of wood. It just becomes more cumbersome when you're dealing with higher level fire ratings.

 

MidTown seeks partner for ambitious Euclid-East 55th rebirth

By Ken Prendergast / November 2, 2021

 

MidTown Cleveland Inc. wants to restore much of the density and vibrancy at what was once among the city’s most important intersections. It is requesting a development partner to help it achieve that goal.

 

Its ultimate development goal is to construct at Euclid Avenue and East 55th Street up to 1 million square feet of new mixed-use space — residential, retail, lodging and offices/labs for research, start-up firms and established employers. MidTown Cleveland says it will be developed with its newly adopted Neighborhood Vision Plan in mind to maximize employment and/or residential density, create a sense of place while honoring, valuing and connecting the neighborhood to its surroundings.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2021/11/02/midtown-seeks-partner-for-ambitious-euclid-east-55th-rebirth/

I hope they intend to remove that turning lane from Euclid to E. 55th and build up to the rail line

I'm surprised there hasn't been more chatter here about MidTown beginning to put things together with a goal of developing up to 1 million square feet of space. I'd been hearing rumblings about 1 million square feet of space at/near this intersection for more than a year. I posted that drone shot from last February as if it were taken from a 200-foot-tall building.

 

And I think MidTown has one or two developers already in mind. If MidTown owned the land, they would probably just pick their favorite and be done with it. But since city and port authority-owned land is involved, they have to do a public bidding process. My guess as to who the leading candidate is? Berusch Development Partners.

58 minutes ago, KJP said:

I'm surprised there hasn't been more chatter here about MidTown beginning to put things together with a goal of developing up to 1 million square feet of space. I'd been hearing rumblings about 1 million square feet of space at/near this intersection for more than a year. I posted that drone shot from last February as if it were taken from a 200-foot-tall building.

 

And I think MidTown has one or two developers already in mind. If MidTown owned the land, they would probably just pick their favorite and be done with it. But since city and port authority-owned land is involved, they have to do a public bidding process. My guess as to who the leading candidate is? Berusch Development Partners.

I guess I would be more excited if it didn't seem so far away and moving so slowing.  Like you said you have been hinting about it for more than  a year but here we are and it is only at the RFQ stage.  That is really to early on in the process for me to be doing jumping jacks.  I imagine a development partner won't even be selected until the first quarter of next year and then the long boring process of coming to some sort of development agreement.  Hopefully Midtown doesn't take a page out of the Cleveland Hts development book or we won't see any conceptual renderings for two years let alone ground breaking.

Edited November 3, 20213 yr by Htsguy

16 minutes ago, KJP said:

I'm surprised there hasn't been more chatter here about MidTown beginning to put things together with a goal of developing up to 1 million square feet of space. I'd been hearing rumblings about 1 million square feet of space at/near this intersection for more than a year. I posted that drone shot from last February as if it were taken from a 200-foot-tall building.

 

And I think MidTown has one or two developers already in mind. If MidTown owned the land, they would probably just pick their favorite and be done with it. But since city and port authority-owned land is involved, they have to do a public bidding process. My guess as to who the leading candidate is? Berusch Development Partners.

I've been pretty busy the last few days without much time to look at or comment on threads, but this project, if it pans out, would be probably the most impactful project announced since the Cleveland Innovation District back in January. I really think the key to the region is developing a vibrant urban core that extends all the way from Gordon Square to University Circle. Once that's in place, Cleveland starts to look like a vibrant city with depressed areas as opposed to a blighted city with isolated up-and-coming pockets. The urban core can then slowly and thoughtfully radiate outward, for the benefit of the whole city and the region.

@Htsguy  I think Berusch was ready to move forward with developing the SW corner of Euclid-E55 but Midtown wanted to do something more comprehensive and transformative, and in a design that might be more respectful of the neighborhood. So I think it made offers to the port authority and Cleveland Foundation who appeared to be ready to advance redevelopment of their properties. Midtown has a vision of how to develop this area and cited those design principles in its newly released development plan. Yeah, it slowed things down, but I think we'll probably end up with a better end product as a result. We shall see.

I’m definitely excited by this, as it had the potential to be a really great neighborhood and as @LlamaLawyervery astutely observes, because of its location on a main thoroughfare, will really help start to give the sense of a city with more vibrant pockets than not. Even if the reality is somewhat the opposite for a while yet. 

Upthread, I’d posted a while ago that I feel the Prospect Ave/ Prospect St/ Carnegie triangle at the back of the Agora has the potential to be a really great little neighborhood and hopefully this development spreads a few hundred yards and helps catalyze that. 

I am cautiously optimistic, but not sure yet what makes this a real project and not just another vision.

 

Minute Men HQ Update

Cleveland Foundation (as seen from the Healthline)

 

 

 

3101 Euclid (from HL)

 

 

I used to live over there looks like i need to do some exploring to see how things have changed.

 

There was an article i read about some homes in Central built by an irish immigrant architect being restored. Can anyone fill me in because i can not remember where they were..

10 hours ago, FutureboyWonder said:

I used to live over there looks like i need to do some exploring to see how things have changed.

 

There was an article i read about some homes in Central built by an irish immigrant architect being restored. Can anyone fill me in because i can not remember where they were.

Is this the one you are speaking of? 

 

https://www.clevelandrestoration.org/our-programs/historic-properties-program-2/dall-houses

Here's my terrible picture of the MAGNET building under construction.

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4 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

Here's my terrible picture of the MAGNET building under construction. 

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No picture of construction in Cleveland is terrible. Not even the Frank Jacknife Bridge!

5 hours ago, KJP said:

No picture of construction in Cleveland is terrible. Not even the Frank Jacknife Bridge!

I would say this is a bridge too far but, then again, the Frank Jacknife doesn't go very far at all.

Allen-Sullivan mansion / Signet development (12-14-21)

 

 

Cleveland Foundation Headquarters 

 

 

 

@NorthShore647 I appreciate your taking the time to tool around town every month or so to provide us with all these many progress photos.  I imagine out of towners appreciates it even more.

52 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

@NorthShore647 I appreciate your taking the time to tool around town every month or so to provide us with all these many progress photos.  I imagine out of towners appreciates it even more.

We really do !!!!

 

Midtown development sites to double in size
By Ken Prendergast / December 16, 2021

 

A Midtown Cleveland development site is about to get twice as large. Even better, a developer is ready, willing and able to construct mixed-use developments on it, assuming a demolition request is approved. Community development officials said they are excited about the outcomes of clearing and cleaning the site left vacant by a former industrial user.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2021/12/16/midtown-development-sites-to-double-in-size/

"In other MidTown Cleveland news, Epstein noted that the community development corporation received an unidentified number of responses to its request for qualifications (RFQ) for an ambitious rebirth of the Euclid-East 55th Street intersection and surrounding area."

 

@KJP Any little birdies give you any details on any of the RFQs?

No, we didn't discuss the RFQs for very long. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was Russell Berusch, possibly in a JV with another developer like Rick Maron or maybe a larger firm. Berusch was going to develop the southeast corner of Euclid-East 55th but I suspect Epstein convinced fim of the wisdom of a more comprehensive approach. So he sold his property to the port authority to become part of MidTown vision.

I can't figure out if this Innovation District is the real deal or just another in a long series of great sounding but ultimately empty ideas to create a 21st century research economy in Cleveland. Are we just Don Quixote tilting at a different kind of windmill?

 

As someone who spent 25 years managing clinical trials at a local biotech firm as well as CCF I am acutely aware of the money and brainpower this kind of work brings to the area. It's no secret that expertise in medical, IT and plain 'ol tech research can catapult a region straight into the future. It's one reason Pittsburgh is probably 20 years ahead of us. They hitched their economic wagon to Carnegie Mellon and the University of Pittsburgh research while we were still focusing on manufacturing jobs. 

 

So is the Innovation District real or not? Are the current players (government, private developers etc.) serious? Is the financial backing deep enough? Or is it simply to early to tell? I would love for this to be real but I just don't know. 

How is it possible to determine if most things are hollow or real before they actually play out over time? Unless we're being asked to invest in them, why is it important to make that determination? One day at a time until we find out in the coming years if they're real...

Well Ken it seems to me one obvious way to determine the seriousness of the Innovation District is to determine the seriousness of the participants. It's not just government money either but the buy in along with that money. I can remember over the past 30 some years when Cleveland was selected (along with other cities) to receive a large influx of Federal dollars that were supposed to be game changing for a neighborhood. It would be front page news on day one but after that either the money was less than expected or it just didn't have a transformational experience. Or maybe it lacked personal oversite and follow through. At any rate...the initial hoopla was followed by pretty much disappointment. 

 

I know your background is a news journalist and local development is a particular interest (of which those on this site are quite grateful, thank you very much!). I can only assume you are aware that a strong economy leads to strong development. It also helps if that strong economy is diversified while focusing on jobs of the future and not those of the past. So the reason I am interested in this particular development is (based on your writing) it sounds like it has the potential to inject  much needed $$ plus office/lab space to create medical/IT and tech jobs. That kind of focus (if real and large enough) has the ability to piggyback on the work already being done by our first rate medical community. And as I said up-post, medical research is my background and I have personally experienced the value of its innovation both in terms of wealth generation,  international reputation and yes, local jobs. It's one thing that keeps us in the first tier. We don't have to take a back seat to larger cities. Maybe I am jumping the gun. I should just let things play out as you suggest. But my interest is in medical research development so pardon me if I can't wait. I just want a little peak around the curtain to to see if I can get a glimpse of the future.

 

Finally lockdog, as for my comment about Pittsburgh being 20 years ahead of us...yes, I'm repeating the same quote we've been reading for some time now.  But it's not based on shade. Just count the number of tech companies that chose

to open an office there while pointedly NOT opening one here. They made those decisions based on the existing research

already being conducted out of its universities. Investment produces more investment. Lack of investment...well you get my point, right?

6 hours ago, cadmen said:

Well Ken it seems to me one obvious way to determine the seriousness of the Innovation District is to determine the seriousness of the participants. It's not just government money either but the buy in along with that money. I can remember over the past 30 some years when Cleveland was selected (along with other cities) to receive a large influx of Federal dollars that were supposed to be game changing for a neighborhood. It would be front page news on day one but after that either the money was less than expected or it just didn't have a transformational experience. Or maybe it lacked personal oversite and follow through. At any rate...the initial hoopla was followed by pretty much disappointment. 

 

I know your background is a news journalist and local development is a particular interest (of which those on this site are quite grateful, thank you very much!). I can only assume you are aware that a strong economy leads to strong development. It also helps if that strong economy is diversified while focusing on jobs of the future and not those of the past. So the reason I am interested in this particular development is (based on your writing) it sounds like it has the potential to inject  much needed $$ plus office/lab space to create medical/IT and tech jobs. That kind of focus (if real and large enough) has the ability to piggyback on the work already being done by our first rate medical community. And as I said up-post, medical research is my background and I have personally experienced the value of its innovation both in terms of wealth generation,  international reputation and yes, local jobs. It's one thing that keeps us in the first tier. We don't have to take a back seat to larger cities. Maybe I am jumping the gun. I should just let things play out as you suggest. But my interest is in medical research development so pardon me if I can't wait. I just want a little peak around the curtain to to see if I can get a glimpse of the future.

 

Finally lockdog, as for my comment about Pittsburgh being 20 years ahead of us...yes, I'm repeating the same quote we've been reading for some time now.  But it's not based on shade. Just count the number of tech companies that chose

to open an office there while pointedly NOT opening one here. They made those decisions based on the existing research

already being conducted out of its universities. Investment produces more investment. Lack of investment...well you get my point, right?

 

I refer to the number of available jobs in Greater Cleveland. They rival or exceed cities I wasn't expecting that we'd rival or exceed. While I don't know what all those jobs are, I do know that the Health Tech Corridor is generating many new jobs and offer many more. The data that caused me to write this piece needs to be shared, but it also needs to be understood more....

https://neo-trans.blog/2021/11/23/cleveland-offers-more-jobs-than-some-sun-belt-powerhouses/

 

Couple observations on Euclid:

 

1. The Signet project went up faasst.

2. How long has this construction equipment been here at Euclid and E 55? 

Demolition in progress of a building north of Euclid Avenue and west of 65th Street.

7 hours ago, Down_with_Ctown said:

Demolition in progress of a building north of Euclid Avenue and west of 65th Street.

Anything planned here?

I searched and found this article 😉

 

Midtown development sites to double in size

https://neo-trans.blog/2021/12/16/midtown-development-sites-to-double-in-size/

Allen-Sullivan mansion / Signet development (2-22-22)

 

 

 

Cleveland Foundation Headquarters

 

 

MPC Plating demolition

 

 

 

MCP Plating has done a lot of damage to the east side. Its good to see the structure coming down. 

https://projects.propublica.org/toxmap/

That Signet development is really going up quickly. I'm liking the presence it gives to the street to. Can't wait to see it finished.

 

I also kept meaning to say - on the south side of Chester between between 72 and 73 are a number of vacant parcels with big For Sale signs that have "Sold" splashed across them. Myplace shows 4 parcels there that transferred to Lassi Enterprises LLC in October. Taxes go to Midtown Cleveland. I was looking thru NEO Trans and Midtown's website, but couldn't find anything on that site, though I could have missed it. Possibly just a longer term investment of them piecing parcels together to market off later?

No huge changes since @NorthShore647's photos. Biked this way home tho so figured I'd stop and grab a few pics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 16, 20223 yr by GISguy

It’ll be interesting to see if people start saying they like the purple on the Cleveland Foundation HQ like they did the orange on Intro.

I tried zooming in, but my phone isn't that great with the rain, so in this expanse, there is the Signet Foundry development in the center, at far left you can just see Metrohealth, and at far right is some new infill housing along Chester:

Two timber-framed buildings in so many years... I must be dreaming. The Cleveland Foundation was a surprise to me (you nerds all prolly knew all about it years ago). They did beautiful work. Who is the builder? 

Edited March 25, 20223 yr by Nickel Plate RR
typo

3 hours ago, Nickel Plate RR said:

Two timber-framed buildings in so many years... I must be dreaming. The Cleveland Foundation was a surprise to me (you nerds all prolly knew all about it years ago). They did beautiful work. Who is the builder? 

 

Panzica, same general contractor as Intro.

From the other day. 

 

Projects, projects, projects…
By Ken Prendergast / April 11, 2022

 

If it seems like there’s been a sudden increase in real estate development projects in Cleveland lately, you’re not alone. And last week, the city’s Building Department received applications for zoning reviews and eventual building permits of three decent-sized projects — in one day.

 

MORE:
https://neo-trans.blog/2022/04/11/projects-projects-projects/

 

The area around E. 55 needs a few major projects (Warner and Swasey would be a good start), but I am amazed at how much momentum midtown down Euclid Ave. is picking up.

 

I just checked in on the 3101 Euclid conversion (which I didn't even realize had finished) and according to the website it's 100% leased.

 

The idea of a vibrant corridor stretching from downtown to University Circle, where you could walk the whole way and never feel like you're in a bad area, may be in reach this decade.

6 minutes ago, LlamaLawyer said:

The area around E. 55 needs a few major projects (Warner and Swasey would be a good start), but I am amazed at how much momentum midtown down Euclid Ave. is picking up.

 

I just checked in on the 3101 Euclid conversion (which I didn't even realize had finished) and according to the website it's 100% leased.

 

The idea of a vibrant corridor stretching from downtown to University Circle, where you could walk the whole way and never feel like you're in a bad area, may be in reach this decade.

I would really like to see a large "anchor" building somewhere on Euclid between E55th and E79th.  Something in the 350,000-400,000 square foot range.  I think it would really help spur additional quality development on the many empty lots.  That proposed building next to the new Cleveland Foundation Building would help but I believe it is only in the 250,000 square foot range (maybe 5 stories?).  Also, was expecting to hear more about that building this year.  People keep hinting about it but nothing seems to be happening.

8 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

I would really like to see a large "anchor" building somewhere on Euclid between E55th and E79th.  Something in the 350,000-400,000 square foot range.  I think it would really help spur additional quality development on the many empty lots.  That proposed building next to the new Cleveland Foundation Building would help but I believe it is only in the 250,000 square foot range (maybe 5 stories?).  Also, was expecting to hear more about that building this year.  People keep hinting about it but nothing seems to be happening.

Years ago, I heard a rumor that AEG was thinking about moving some back office employees to the area near the Agora. I've never heard anything else about it, but I always wished something along those lines would come true. We get billed as the rock n roll city all the time, but there's no real music business scene here. (Obviously, there are some studios, small record labels, etc., but no more than you'd find in any random midsized city.)

 

I continue to fantasize about the idea of having some music business in midtown, although I have no real reason to think that would happen.

 
Projects, projects, projects…
By Ken Prendergast / April 11, 2022
 
If it seems like there’s been a sudden increase in real estate development projects in Cleveland lately, you’re not alone. And last week, the city’s Building Department received applications for zoning reviews and eventual building permits of three decent-sized projects — in one day.
 
MORE:
https://neo-trans.blog/2022/04/11/projects-projects-projects/
 

The link isn’t working and I can’t find it when I go directly to your site.


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