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1 hour ago, KJP said:

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Phase 2 sought for Midtown apartment complex
By Ken Prendergast / December 14, 2022

 

With the paint still drying on the first phase of a mixed-use development called The Foundry Lofts, 7240 Euclid Ave., Signet Real Estate Group is asking the city for approvals to begin construction on an apartments-only phase two. The reason for moving forward so quickly on the expanding Midtown Cleveland development is because both residential and commercial leasing activity for the first phase have been strong.

 

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https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/14/phase-2-sought-for-midtown-apartment-complex/

 

I hate when these are the last post on the page...

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The frontage along Carnegie is just awful. The grassy setback and metal fence makes it look like public housing from the 70's. It's too bad because the building design is nice. The city needs to stop messing around and roll out the urban form overlay for every major commercial street.

The buildings themselves look genuinely great. And it's exciting to see Midtown growing a residential base. But absolutely agree with @Mendo, that frontage could be so much better.

57 minutes ago, Mendo said:

The frontage along Carnegie is just awful. The grassy setback and metal fence makes it look like public housing from the 70's. It's too bad because the building design is nice. The city needs to stop messing around and roll out the urban form overlay for every major commercial street.

 

3 minutes ago, tykaps said:

The buildings themselves look genuinely great. And it's exciting to see Midtown growing a residential base. But absolutely agree with @Mendo, that frontage could be so much better.

Hopefully they will get some push back from design review.  It is still early

Carnegie has always been a mess.   I think the developers would have a strong argument to push back on the set back, given the house with a big front yard across the street.

 

 

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Carnegie has always been a mess.   I think the developers would have a strong argument to push back on the set back, given the house with a big front yard across the street.
 
 
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You can't look at the past for reasons to maintain status quo. If we really want to become this "15 minute city" that the mayor is talking about, it has to start with projects like these and future ones. We need to put the proper design and zoning forward NOW.

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The problem with building or redeveloping something on Euclid that I've noticed is developers treat the immediate street situated behind Euclid as an afterthought. CSU did it with the Edge, Dealer tire did it with that parking garage and now this project. Each major street should be treated the same. The building should be fronting Carnegie like it is on Euclid with a retail space.

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Apparently no push back from design review or Planning Commission re:  Phase 2 of Foundry Lofts.  Approved as presented.

I don't personally care about the frontage that much.

 

There are twelve zillion more vacant lots on Carnegie where we can push to have better frontage. I think it's self defeating to get too picky before the street really has its momentum built up.

15 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

You can't look at the past for reasons to maintain status quo. If we really want to become this "15 minute city" that the mayor is talking about, it has to start with projects like these and future ones. We need to put the proper design and zoning forward NOW.

 

18 minutes ago, LlamaLawyer said:

There are twelve zillion more vacant lots on Carnegie where we can push to have better frontage. I think it's self defeating to get too picky before the street really has its momentum built up.

 

I sort of agree with you both.  We are always going to have "major" streets that are designed to move cars, and that's not going to change if we just switch to electric cars.  And we have several parallel "major" streets between downtown and University Circle -- Carnegie, Euclid, Chester -- they don't all need a transit lane and separate bike lanes and built-to-the-street pedestrian amenities, and we probably don't have the resources in this community to redevelop all of them to the same highest standard. 

 

And I don't think we should expect each of these streets to be built with mixed-use pedestrianism along their full length.  Having a walkable business district around intersections spaced about a 30-minute walk apart would be a great start.

 

The Healthline has done a good job of reducing car traffic on Euclid.  Let's continue to improve Euclid -- can we get separated bike lanes and better pedestrian-oriented business districts along the route?  More density at those intermediate business districts?  Let Carnegie continue to be the alternate heavy-traffic route (along with the Opportunity Corridor) for now. 

 

This isn't the most ideal project, but it's better than what was there before and the earlier phase is built up to the street on the Euclid side, so I'll take it.  Take the good over the perfect.

I have always had mixed feelings about this project, although generally positive.  I like the design for the most part and they did a pretty good job of incorporation on Euclid given site challenges (how it is hemmed in by some pretty unremarkable neighbors).  I understand the economics of the project and a business model that strives to provide somewhat more affordable market rate apartments.  As a result, you get a site plan that somewhat mimics garden apartments built in North Royalton in the 70s and 80s, with surface parking adjacent to and fronting entrances to the buildings.  Much better building designs but obviously the project budget did not allow for more creative parking solutions.

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8 minutes ago, Foraker said:

Having a walkable business district around intersections spaced about a 30-minute walk apart would be a great start.

 

The Healthline has done a good job of reducing car traffic on Euclid.  Let's continue to improve Euclid -- can we get separated bike lanes and better pedestrian-oriented business districts along the route?  More density at those intermediate business districts?  Let Carnegie continue to be the alternate heavy-traffic route (along with the Opportunity Corridor) for now. 

 

That's what Wash DC did 125 years ago. On the major residential avenues, intersections a mile apart were zoned for business, meaning a lot of the city is still very walkable. That seems like a solution for Carnegie; don't try to turn it into Brooklyn's Flatbush Avenue, just scatter some useful shopping for the residents at reasonable intervals along its length.

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That frontage along Carnegie just sets the precedent for future development to do the same thing. It was the same arguments about the Dealer Tire garage then. And what's getting built just keeps the bad standard. 

 

Why can't Carnegie also have a proper city form built along it? Is Euclid the only place to push for that kind of development? Every other major city has multiple urban arterials. Why shouldn't Cleveland. 

1 hour ago, Foraker said:

And I don't think we should expect each of these streets to be built with mixed-use pedestrianism along their full length.  Having a walkable business district around intersections spaced about a 30-minute walk apart would be a great start.

 

The Healthline has done a good job of reducing car traffic on Euclid.  Let's continue to improve Euclid -- can we get separated bike lanes and better pedestrian-oriented business districts along the route?  More density at those intermediate business districts?  Let Carnegie continue to be the alternate heavy-traffic route (along with the Opportunity Corridor) for now. 

 

Right, by making certain roads (e.g. Carnegie, Chester) feel more auto-focused, you take traffic away from pedestrian/bike/transit corridors like Euclid. If Euclid, Carnegie, and Chester all looked the same, Euclid would have a lot more auto traffic. Because Carnegie and Chester are so much faster for cars, Euclid gets way less traffic, which makes it more bus and pedestrian friendly.

 

So, whether or not you love the setbacks, I really appreciate the fact that they're on Chester, not Euclid. 

2 hours ago, Mendo said:

That frontage along Carnegie just sets the precedent for future development to do the same thing. It was the same arguments about the Dealer Tire garage then. And what's getting built just keeps the bad standard. 

 

Why can't Carnegie also have a proper city form built along it? Is Euclid the only place to push for that kind of development? Every other major city has multiple urban arterials. Why shouldn't Cleveland. 

Totally agree that we need to get the zoning along Carnegie fixed, and the precedent set by Dealer Tire should have spurred that change.  The setback in this project is perpetuating the problem and reinforces the need for change.

2 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said:

So, whether or not you love the setbacks, I really appreciate the fact that they're on Chester, not Euclid. 

 

The setbacks shouldnt be on either street, but especially not Carnegie which is narrower than Chester and a better fit for mixed use pedestrian scale development.

 

I'm not sure I understand your point. Ideally you shouldn't be making any street auto focused. Moving traffic to Carnegie doesn't make Euclid better. Mixed use districts everywhere coexist just fine with cars.

 

I'm not suggesting Foundry be mixed use, but it should be built to complement and encourage mixed use buildings nearby. I have no hope of Chester being a walkable street but Carnegie could be. 



 

So, whether or not you love the setbacks, I really appreciate the fact that they're on Chester, not Euclid. 


This is exactly my point I made earlier. Why are projects designed on Euclid treated with so much love, care and detail and other streets have the "at least something is getting built" mentality. This is why the city won't reach its full potential.

Everything that we say we want in a TOD heavy city is just lip service if action isn't put behind it, it has to start somewhere. TOD and walkability shouldn't be limited to one street it should be universal throughout the city.

It was said in the thread that Euclid Avenue did a great job eliminating cars, well why not start the process on other streets now. Why not Chester? Why can't streets like this get the same love.

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Brownfield grants reveal progress on many projects
By Ken Prendergast / December 17, 2022

 

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine announced $88 million in state support for 123 brownfield remediation projects that will help clean up hazardous and underutilized sites throughout the state. The Ohio Department of Development is funding the awards through the Ohio Brownfield Remediation Program, which is designed to clean up and prepare hazardous brownfield sites for redevelopment. The projects announced today will impact communities in 35 counties across the state.

 

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https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/17/brownfield-grants-reveal-progress-on-many-projects/

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Good news for the Warner & Swasey complex

 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

So with that and the money it is getting from the city will this be able to start now?

  • 2 weeks later...

Time lapse video on Cleveland Foundation HQ construction:

 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

  • 4 weeks later...

Today, saw drilling by HZW Environmental on the parcel on the south side of Euclid Ave.,just east of    E 55th St. And the NS elevated tracks.

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They're putting their newly awarded Brownfield Grant to good use already.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 3 weeks later...

Kind of a mini-bomb dropping here... Could be bigger than what I know right now. Still is pretty cool.

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

A hand grenade?

Firecracker?

 

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Oracle/Cerner to open Cleveland training center
By Ken Prendergast / February 10, 2023

 

Cerner Corp., a healthcare division of software giant Oracle, is planning to open a training center at 3121 Euclid Ave. near downtown Cleveland that could accommodate hundreds of people in classrooms simultaneously. The proposed training center speaks to Oracle/Cerner’s growing presence in Greater Cleveland and the addition of another major healthcare employer to the region’s economy.

 

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https://neo-trans.blog/2023/02/10/oracle-cerner-to-open-cleveland-training-center/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Any idea abt specific number of new full-time jobs?

I’d call that a nice little bomb.  These types of developments get me as excited as 20 story high rises going up downtown.  Silicon Cleveland :)

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As a Cleveland-based Oracle/Cerner employee, interesting move. The Clinic and Metro are firmly entrenched using Epic, Cerner's main competitor in the EHR space. UH is in the process of switching to Epic as well. The only hospital in the area currently using Cerner is Southwest General. If I had to guess, this space will be used for training of staff related to the VA's transition from VistA to Cerner's EHR. 

5 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said:

Any idea abt specific number of new full-time jobs?

 

Not yet, but I would guess it's pretty closely related to the number of individual offices planned for this building (39).

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I agree that this little(?) development is maybe not a bomb but more the a firecracker. It brings back to life another empty building in the space between downtown and UC. And it's medically related which injects another building block into our strongest employment sector. Not to mention that many of those using the training will be people just getting their foot into this world. I started at the bottom and used a little technical degree to open a door that would otherwise have been closed. 

 

It's all good 

  • 3 weeks later...
  • The Foundry Lofts, 7240 Euclid Ave, really are eye-popping.  Retail space looks like it’s weeks away from opening. 

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This is probably my favorite development in town, it has really over delivered.

It does look great.  It's a shame Carnegie in general is absolute disgrace.  Would be nice to the city invest in an improvement plan similar to Clifton/W Blvd to 117th.  Prime the pump for even more development. 

Cleveland Foundation Headquarters got its certificate of occupancy yesterday

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

As of today, the brick building with the Panzica sign, across E 66th from the Cleveland Foundation is mostly demolished.  It was the last building on the block.  There is a new parking lot on the Chester side with an open roof.  Will they be starting on the new tech building soon?

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46 minutes ago, urb-a-saurus said:

As of today, the brick building with the Panzica sign, across E 66th from the Cleveland Foundation is mostly demolished.  It was the last building on the block.  There is a new parking lot on the Chester side with an open roof.  Will they be starting on the new tech building soon?

 

No permit applications have been submitted for that parcel fronting Euclid since October. And that was for a zoning review.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 2 weeks later...

Construction about to start on The Foundry Phase Two.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Construction permits submitted for The Midtown Collaboration Center. Probably a couple months away from seeing any construction through.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

6 hours ago, KJP said:

Construction permits submitted for The Midtown Collaboration Center. Probably a couple months away from seeing any construction through.

I don’t remember this one.

On 3/7/2023 at 10:29 AM, urb-a-saurus said:

As of today, the brick building with the Panzica sign, across E 66th from the Cleveland Foundation is mostly demolished.  It was the last building on the block.  There is a new parking lot on the Chester side with an open roof.  Will they be starting on the new tech building soon?

(Quoting myself, lol).  Is this the spot mentioned in my earlier post, quoted above?

4 hours ago, urb-a-saurus said:

(Quoting myself, lol).  Is this the spot mentioned in my earlier post, quoted above?

 

Yes

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don’t remember this one.
Isn't this the center that got downsized because a major tenant pulled out? aa5bd8d102e2a187fe62f010b17a2101.jpg

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  • 3 weeks later...

Does anybody have a clue about the status of the long-languishing Warner & Swasey project, since it finally got state tax credits awarded last December?

I don't recall seeing any building permits submitted for W&S. 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 4/10/2023 at 3:18 PM, LlamaLawyer said:

Does anybody have a clue about the status of the long-languishing Warner & Swasey project, since it finally got state tax credits awarded last December?

 

7 hours ago, KJP said:

I don't recall seeing any building permits submitted for W&S. 

According to comments made at today's County Council meeting, still working on the capital stack.  A county loan for $1,000,000.00 that was previously authorized was extended.

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On 3/22/2023 at 9:31 AM, MyPhoneDead said:

Isn't this the center that got downsized because a major tenant pulled out? aa5bd8d102e2a187fe62f010b17a2101.jpg

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They were digging on the lot across E 66th St. From the Cleveland Foundation today.

On 4/24/2023 at 3:59 PM, urb-a-saurus said:

They were digging on the lot across E 66th St. From the Cleveland Foundation today.

 

Can confirm 👍

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