August 16, 20231 yr Girders up at E66th and Euclid. I love the pace of this project. Midtown may not turn into Atlanta’s with high rise buildings left and right but a dense urban environment with attractive multistory/mid rise buildings would be just as exciting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
August 16, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said: I love the pace of this project. Midtown may not turn into Atlanta’s with high rise buildings left and right but a dense urban environment with attractive multistory/mid rise buildings would be just as exciting. Which we would already have, if it hadn't all sadly been torn down... Edited August 16, 20231 yr by gruver
August 16, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, gruver said: Which we would already have, if it hadn't all sadly been torn down... A lot of those buildings were still there 20 years ago. Depressing that we’re still doing that to our city.
August 17, 20231 yr Which we would already have, if it hadn't all sadly been torn down... I avoid the Cleveland Historic Thread for this very reason. I cry on the inside.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
August 17, 20231 yr 17 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: I avoid the Cleveland Historic Thread for this very reason. I cry on the inside. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks like we were carpet bombed and never rebuilt.
August 17, 20231 yr Real bummer about the GE Plant, there are some really cool spaces: Edited August 18, 20231 yr by GISguy added another photo
August 17, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, GISguy said: Real bummer about the GE Plant, there are some really cool spaces: So does anyone know what might be built in the GE plant's place? Hopefully not more parking lots.
August 18, 20231 yr Not a parking lot, but an empty lot. Same difference. Hopefully it gets repurposed soon. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 21, 20231 yr Foundry Lofts foundations going in, and E. 70th site work next to Dealer Tire HQ.
August 22, 20231 yr Not a parking lot, but an empty lot. Same difference. Hopefully it gets repurposed soon.This news ruined my month. It was one of my favorite properties in Northeast Ohio. So much potential, wasted.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
August 22, 20231 yr 39 minutes ago, ASP1984 said: This news ruined my month. It was one of my favorite properties in Northeast Ohio. So much potential, wasted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk worse, boy oh boy do the kids in northern bushwick love spaces like that for lofts, studios, maker space, coffee shoppes, etc.. i guess the insurance costs of the roofs falling in on some renter's head was too much to cover.
August 29, 20231 yr Midtown developments accelerate By Ken Prendergast / August 29, 2023 Long considered as the affordable and accessible place to live between downtown and University Circle, the Midtown neighborhood of Cleveland is starting to take off. Multiple development projects are under way or planned in this area, midway between two of Ohio’s largest employment hubs — the city’s central business district and its eds-and-meds hub. And a project that many consider to be the key to unlocking further development in Midtown is finally moving forward. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/08/29/midtown-developments-accelerate/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 29, 20231 yr 6 minutes ago, KJP said: Midtown developments accelerate By Ken Prendergast / August 29, 2023 Long considered as the affordable and accessible place to live between downtown and University Circle, the Midtown neighborhood of Cleveland is starting to take off. Multiple development projects are under way or planned in this area, midway between two of Ohio’s largest employment hubs — the city’s central business district and its eds-and-meds hub. And a project that many consider to be the key to unlocking further development in Midtown is finally moving forward. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/08/29/midtown-developments-accelerate/ Never thought I'd see the day! Is this the closest we've ever been to actually having this thing go forward?
August 29, 20231 yr one cool, prominent, bigazz old factory lost, one saved. circle of life, circle of life. 😅🤷♂️
August 29, 20231 yr On 8/17/2023 at 3:26 PM, GISguy said: Real bummer about the GE Plant, there are some really cool spaces: Some further background on the GE Plant Demolition: General Electric plans to demolish vacant lamp factory complex dating to the 1880s on Cleveland’s East Side https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2022/09/general-electric-plans-to-demolish-vacant-lamp-factory-complex-dating-to-the-1880s-on-clevelands-east-side.html That GE would assume no investors wanted to purchase even a salvaged subset of the original buildings, to me, shows a profound lack of both imagination and accountability. Where was City Hall in all this? On 8/17/2023 at 3:26 PM, GISguy said: Edited August 29, 20231 yr by ASP1984
August 29, 20231 yr This could've been a similar project to Warner and Swasey. The city loves choosing the convenient route when it comes to structures like this versus the creative route, especially on the East side and it's annoying. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
August 30, 20231 yr yeah i thought ge was supposed to be about bringing good things to life? or so their slogan went. i’d like to think jack welch would not have allowed this, but that is just wishful thinking and because i admired his book. there was another tyler village in that for sure. its a shame at least some of couldnt be saved or at least left alone. i guess a massive cleared lot is more marketable in their minds. where was city hall indeed??
August 30, 20231 yr Midtown Collab Ctr coming along: Also my camera didn't come up quick enough (I was biking too fast, obviously...) but Dunham Tavern lost a lot of trees in the storm - @mack34 had some good ones on twitter the other day.
August 31, 20231 yr 17 hours ago, GISguy said: Also my camera didn't come up quick enough (I was biking too fast, obviously...) but Dunham Tavern lost a lot of trees in the storm - @mack34 had some good ones on twitter the other day. The tavern itself has suffered some damage, too, I see. I hope they have insurance and it pays them soon. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 20, 20231 yr Best I could do before turning into Gal's Sidenote, Dunham is undergoing work, a couple contractor looking trucks in the drive: Edited September 20, 20231 yr by GISguy
October 6, 20231 yr Seeds & Sprouts 33 – Sankofa Village Phase 4 coming, West 48th gets more townhomes, So might Midtown, Intro adding salon By Ken Prendergast / October 5, 2023 One Midtown Luxury Townhomes seeks expansion City Planning Commission recently gave conditional approval to conceptual plans for an expansion of a phased townhouse development that hasn’t visibly progressed in the past five years, despite a number of other developments moving forward in Cleveland’s Midtown neighborhood. But a member of the development team said that pending expansion of the plan will make it possible to move forward with the remainder of the project in a second phase with lower per-unit costs of construction. That could be a key to success in the growing area between downtown and University Circle. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/10/05/seeds-sprouts-33-sankofa-village-phase-4-coming-west-48th-gets-more-townhomes-so-might-midtown-intro-adding-salon/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 22, 20231 yr The NS tracks just south of Euclid at E 55th St are undergoing work, maybe bridge repairs? Concrete is stripped out creating or expanding an underpass. I did see a train go over it, so the basic structure is sound.
October 23, 20231 yr The city has proposed putting a street through what was once a pedestrian underpass for the former Pennsylvania Railroad passenger station that was there. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 20231 yr 24 minutes ago, KJP said: The city has proposed putting a street through what was once a pedestrian underpass for the former Pennsylvania Railroad passenger station that was there. To what end? Won’t that just create another useless triangle of grass? Seems like a lot of effort to shave a few seconds off waiting at the light to make a right turn onto Euclid off of 55th northbound. Unless it’s to create access for something… My hovercraft is full of eels
October 23, 20231 yr It's to create access for something -- two somethings. Future developments on both sides of the underpass. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 20231 yr 8 hours ago, KJP said: It's to create access for something -- two somethings. Future developments on both sides of the underpass. But where will we park all the busted up police cars.
October 23, 20231 yr There was some buzz a while back on potential projects around E. 55th and Euclid, but it has been quiet for some time now.
October 23, 20231 yr 13 hours ago, KJP said: The city has proposed putting a street through what was once a pedestrian underpass for the former Pennsylvania Railroad passenger station that was there. A city that is shrinking but acts like it's expanding is dangerous!
October 23, 20231 yr 15 minutes ago, noname said: A city that is shrinking but acts like it's expanding is dangerous! How about a city that is trying to rebuild itself to promote growth? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, KJP said: How about a city that is trying to rebuild itself to promote growth? New roads = growth? More infrastructure to maintain with less funding every year. Cleveland needs to accept that it's a shrinking city and get more efficient with the resources it has. Adding in new roads for anticipated growth (on a project that isn't announced yet) is not a sound logic.
October 23, 20231 yr 1 minute ago, noname said: New roads = growth? More infrastructure to maintain with less funding every year. Cleveland needs to accept that it's a shrinking city and get more efficient with the resources it has. Adding in new roads for anticipated growth (on a project that isn't announced yet) is not a sound logic. Please take a look at the masterplan for the site before commenting further. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 20231 yr 10 minutes ago, KJP said: Please take a look at the masterplan for the site before commenting further. Where can I find it?
October 23, 20231 yr 52 minutes ago, noname said: Where can I find it? In this article https://neo-trans.blog/2020/05/22/warner-swasey-redevelopment-is-a-midtown-catalyst/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 23, 20231 yr 53 minutes ago, KJP said: In this article https://neo-trans.blog/2020/05/22/warner-swasey-redevelopment-is-a-midtown-catalyst/ I was driving past this building yesterday and thinking how prime of a candidate it is for redevelopment. The difference between this building being blighted and a thriving apartment building will be huge in terms of how Cleveland is perceived! A lot of people drive down Carnegie, and it's no secret that area looks rough, in no small part thanks to this highly visible building. Fixing it up will improve the feel of the area tremendously, which will be huge for redeveloping it, and for the impression of Cleveland as a whole!
October 23, 20231 yr Carnegie is a disgrace. For all the good work done by DCA and the Midtown group, simply addressing the forest of weeds along the sidewalks and curbs would do wonders for conveying the street is open for business. The current states conveys neglect and decay.
October 24, 20231 yr On 10/23/2023 at 11:57 AM, noname said: New roads = growth? More infrastructure to maintain with less funding every year. Cleveland needs to accept that it's a shrinking city and get more efficient with the resources it has. Adding in new roads for anticipated growth (on a project that isn't announced yet) is not a sound logic. I see acknowledging that were losing population is unpopular on this forum!
October 24, 20231 yr 22 hours ago, OldEnough said: Carnegie is a disgrace. For all the good work done by DCA and the Midtown group, simply addressing the forest of weeds along the sidewalks and curbs would do wonders for conveying the street is open for business. The current states conveys neglect and decay. I think thats part of the new plan that is currently going through MOCAP. But it will be still be 6-7 lanes of course.
October 24, 20231 yr 3 minutes ago, noname said: I see acknowledging that were losing population is unpopular on this forum! Or maybe it's just that saying we shouldn't put in a new road that services the kind of new development we want to reverse that population decline isn't such a brilliant statement.
October 24, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, X said: Or maybe it's just that saying we shouldn't put in a new road that services the kind of new development we want to reverse that population decline isn't such a brilliant statement. Im all for rebuilding our existing infrastructure when necessary. What exactly is the benefit of this new road going under the bridge? Where has it been outlined why this is a necessary expense?
October 24, 20231 yr 50 minutes ago, noname said: I see acknowledging that were losing population is unpopular on this forum! I thought we were gaining population in the last census and by all estimates. Also if you want to single out downtown that population is growing as well last I checked. I think the pushback was from you using outdated info.
October 24, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, dwolfi01 said: I thought we were gaining population in the last census and by all estimates. Also if you want to single out downtown that population is growing as well last I checked. I think the pushback was from you using outdated info. Check again. We lost population. There's no outdated information on my end, we lost population.
October 24, 20231 yr ^I'll jump in... the city of Cleveland did lose population during the last census. That same Census data showed that the city, however, gained households during the same 10-year time period (I know there's an article on this forum which highlights the change, and no I didn't look for it). So people are indeed moving back to the city; however, familes with children are leaving. That puts a different spin on just the loss of population in general. City Hall during the Jackson administration believed the city would bottom out and begin to rebound in population around 2023-2024. Projects mentioned like the one here https://neo-trans.blog/2020/05/22/warner-swasey-redevelopment-is-a-midtown-catalyst/ point towards that prediction coming to fruition, along with the Cleveland economy finally being less dependant on manufacturing (which has fallen to the fifth-largest sector in the local economy). The city will not stay in the same downward spiral it's been in; I'm not a betting man nor someone who is such a homer that I truly believe the city will have massive growth in the next few years. I do believe, however, that the city actually hit rock bottom within the past ten years and will rebound, however long that takes from here. Edited October 24, 20231 yr by Oldmanladyluck
October 24, 20231 yr 56 minutes ago, Oldmanladyluck said: ^I'll jump in... the city of Cleveland did lose population during the last census. That same Census data showed that the city, however, gained households during the same 10-year time period (I know there's an article on this forum which highlights the change, and no I didn't look for it). So people are indeed moving back to the city; however, familes with children are leaving. That puts a different spin on just the loss of population in general. City Hall during the Jackson administration believed the city would bottom out and begin to rebound in population around 2023-2024. Projects mentioned like the one here https://neo-trans.blog/2020/05/22/warner-swasey-redevelopment-is-a-midtown-catalyst/ point towards that prediction coming to fruition, along with the Cleveland economy finally being less dependant on manufacturing (which has fallen to the fifth-largest sector in the local economy). The city will not stay in the same downward spiral it's been in; I'm not a betting man nor someone who is such a homer that I truly believe the city will have massive growth in the next few years. I do believe, however, that the city actually hit rock bottom within the past ten years and will rebound, however long that takes from here. And that's all a fair guess. But we lost population, which the other user said we didn't. I am also not entirely convinced that just because we are gaining pop in hot neighborhoods, that it will offset the losses in neighborhoods that are on the brink of non-existence.
October 24, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, noname said: Check again. We lost population. There's no outdated information on my end, we lost population. Sorry I was looking at the Cleveland MSA population which encompasses a larger area than just strictly city-lines. I think when talking about use of roads it's more apt to consider the growth of the whole area since they will be using and benefiting from updated infrastructure
October 24, 20231 yr ^I'll jump in... the city of Cleveland did lose population during the last census. That same Census data showed that the city, however, gained households during the same 10-year time period (I know there's an article on this forum which highlights the change, and no I didn't look for it). So people are indeed moving back to the city; however, familes with children are leaving. That puts a different spin on just the loss of population in general. City Hall during the Jackson administration believed the city would bottom out and begin to rebound in population around 2023-2024. Projects mentioned like the one here https://neo-trans.blog/2020/05/22/warner-swasey-redevelopment-is-a-midtown-catalyst/ point towards that prediction coming to fruition, along with the Cleveland economy finally being less dependant on manufacturing (which has fallen to the fifth-largest sector in the local economy). The city will not stay in the same downward spiral it's been in; I'm not a betting man nor someone who is such a homer that I truly believe the city will have massive growth in the next few years. I do believe, however, that the city actually hit rock bottom within the past ten years and will rebound, however long that takes from here. I never noticed that one of those buildings actually said AT&T. What building is that? Sent from my Pixel 8 Pro using Tapatalk
November 2, 20231 yr Two projects are at either end of Midtown on Carnegie.... Cleveland, Maple Hts projects add hundreds of jobs By Ken Prendergast / November 1, 2023 Tennessee-based laboratory services company LabConnect and local fermented foods producer Cleveland Kitchen Co. were approved this week for a combined $1.1 million in state job creation tax credits for up to 250 new jobs at facilities in Cleveland. Meanwhile, a growing Vendors Exchange International, LLC plans to move its offices and manufacturing facilities from a western suburb to Maple Heights where it will expand to more than 70 jobs, thanks to financial support from Maple Heights. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/01/cleveland-maple-hts-projects-add-hundreds-of-jobs/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 2, 20231 yr Well, hello old friend. I used to work in that building when it was the home of Acromed, a medical device company.
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