Quay 55 looked worse than this building before it was renovated.  But I think you would get laughed out of any developer's board room if you even suggested that you could fill a building this size, at this location, with market-rate (or above) residents.

^You should have told RTA that 3+ years ago when they shaved the facade and secured it.

 

EDIT: In fairness, I doubt anyone ever expected this building to be a residential conversion.  And in further fairness, the Quay 55 developers should have been laughed out of their board room too based on its performance.

Its not even  6611  itself that I have a problem with, I actually think the building can be saved. But it is just so out of place. If this building was situated in the WD for instance I could see it being rehabbed. But its placement is just so odd that I don't see how it could work. Besides the amount of investment would be astronomical, I don't see how an investor would realize any ROI in their lifetime. But what really burns me is how 6611 and buildings in that shape are permitted to be in such disrepair for that amount of time without any consequences. In this case RTA is the slum landlord in question and a fine should be levied on them for every day that building exists. I feel the same towards other building such as the Breuer tower that are allowed to sit in disrepair over an extended period of time. In that case the county should be fined in the same manner.  I guarantee you if 6611 were sitting on the corner of Joe Calabrees's street it would have been either demo'd or refurrbed by now.

If it was in the WHD, it would have already been transformed.  That is the difference here.

CWRU opens its National Children’s Study Center Office

Posted: June 8th, 2011

 

The Case Western Reserve National Children’s Study Center will soon have approximately 15 people employed and working at the new office space (4600 Euclid Ave.). This new space is the Study Center’s first permanent location; it previously was located in borrowed space at the School of Medicine.

 

It will also employ nearly 35 field workers who are in and out of the space as a home base. New people may be hired as the project expands. Various subcontractors (who are off site) include staff at the Cuyahoga County Board of Health, Invest in Children, University Hospitals, Cleveland Clinic and MetroHealth, along with others subcontracted to help with the study. The study also funds related research at Case Western Reserve University.

 

http://thedaily.case.edu/news/?p=383

 

 

 

Right now (at 10:30 a.m.) Mayor Jackson is attending the grand opening and tour of the $9.2 million expansion of the Pierre's Ice Cream plant, 6200 Euclid Ave. There is an e-mailed press release, but the PDF is an image so I can't copy and paste the text.

“A journey of a thousand miles begins with one small step”

 

guess this also applies to the medical mart, FEB, etc.

 

 

 

 

You mean that two projects worth $1 billion is a small step?

if you read some of the previous posts, you may get an idea of what I mean....

I keep hearing rumors about a coffee house and a French restaurant going into the Midtown.  Can anyone confirm any details?  I've heard around the E.66th area.

This seems to be the building being discussed: http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/clnd_images/ED/ClevelandKeyGas.pdf

 

Other google search gives me: 1966 E 66th St, Cleveland, OH, 44103

 

Wednesday, July 06, 2011

Cleveland gets $4 million for industrial cleanup

Abandoned sites to be converted into usable land again

by WKSU's KABIR BHATIA

 

In Cleveland, more than one million dollars is going to demolish and remove asbestos from the former Kinzig Tool Company on East 66th Street.

 

http://www.wksu.org/news/story/28789

The project that is going to go there is pretty substantial looking.  Hope it happens.

Wonder if this will cause investor interest in the vacant seven-story warehouse across the street from Gallucci's? I had written that building off, and maybe I still should, but it seems the other investments nearby increases the pressure to do something positive with this highly visible structure.

^Or demolish it.  FWIW, the public notice posted by Clueless in the JHB building thread also has some sort of a master plan rendering for the Dunham Tavern block:

 

http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/clnd_images/ED/PublicNotices.pdf

^I don't see where W28th suggested in his post that the facility be demolished.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing the Playhouse torn down really.  The siting of that building is attrocious.  That said, the Clinic will prbably retain it.

 

EDIT:  I just noticed Whipjacka beat me to it.

Now it's clear that the greatly fire-damaged western building of Erie Square is indeed being rebuilt and, as of the past few days, huge supports have been installed along the brick shell. Makes me feel real good to see this 1920s apartment building come back to life and house those who really need it. And the residents will get all new apartments - assumably quite different from those of the eastern building - with brand new features.

 

Of course, the whole complex may have gotten extensively renovated in the past, so I don't know what '20s original features may still be intact, but at least the exteriors will be Euclid Avenue of the 1920s. I've read when the duo was built there was a house in front. I'm sure this was considered luxury apartments when constructed. :clap:

I'm sure this was considered luxury apartments when constructed.

 

Yep, it was.........

 

What's going on with that occupied building, to the west of the Dunham Tavern area, with all the scaffolding on the west side? I see they're working on the facade too.  Will this become an all-modern exterior?  No, it's not included in the project list posted here of 6/20/2011.

 

Why don't you just go up to the place and ask somebody there?

I do it all the time.

I doubt they're gonna bite you.

 

 

EDIT: if you live out of state (i.e. an expat), i retract my suggestion.

 

 

 

 

I usually go by on bus or occasionally drive by on way to work or one weekend when no one's there. HealthLine lanes on Euclid sure don't encourage one's parking on the street or even going slowly to look over a project. :-( Sometimes I just ask a question here with the hopes someone can answer quickly, with no special effort.

 

^Thanks.

The Rochester, NY house is definitely a look-a-like for the Dunham.

It looks like they may be painting the Dunham red too.

Someone in this forum, a few months ago, seemed to be enough familiar with Dunham Tavern's general practices that he stated he thinks they paint one wall a year - something like that.  I don't think that's quite true but whomever that was - do you have a clue what's going on there? They're always doing and not finishing funny things with the walls, and now there are several areas of clapboard painted a bright red.

 

So what the deuce is going on? I don't want to call them cold and ask, and there is no e-mail address on the web.... :wtf:

Actually I just found an e-mail address: [email protected]

 

Hope someone who knows something responds to my inquiry....

 

Sweeney Painting & Decorating (out of University Hts, I believe) is doing the painting, etc.

Their contractor's sign is in Dunham's front yard.

Yes, I noticed, as of yesterday, Sweeney is there and they're really going to town!  Looks like the whole shebang might actually be painted this time! I'm also pullng for the red, frankly.

I just wrote again to Dunham, specifically asking if there might originally have been shutters (as there were shutters on the place for many decades - removed with the Gaede restoration/renovation. I got a response that the current color was determined to be approximately the original, as some 28 coats of paint were researched. The red, interestingly, is strips of wood that were leftover from the barn construction project.  They will be painted over the gray color like the surroundings.

 

No response as to shutters but someone else may know.

It will be exciting to see what else is coming down the line with the Heath-Tech Corridor Projects...

 

Cleveland HeartLab signs lease in Midtown; fast-growing company part of Health-Tech Corridor:

 

"HeartLab plans to sign a 10-year lease today for 27,000 square feet at the MidTown Tech Park, a rare project built without tenants in hand. A niche lab focused on biological markers tied to heart disease and stroke, HeartLab rebuffed an offer from an East Coast buyer, chose to stay in Cleveland...

 

"We think it will take us less than a year to have it fully occupied," said Terry Coyne, a Grubb & Ellis broker representing the property. Coyne's family also invested in the project."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2011/09/cleveland_heartlab_signs_lease.html

Good stuff!

 

Something interesting I noticed from the article:

 

"Developer Dick Pace, whose nearby Baker Electric Building is filled with small tenants, is negotiating with the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority to buy a dilapidated building at 6611 Euclid Ave. The building could become another option for growing companies that - like HeartLab - otherwise might leave."

 

Yes, thats the faceless building next to Dunham Tavern!

 

 

^Wow!  That would be incredible if he were able to do something with that hulking shell.

 

This is the first that I've seen "Dunham Square" alluded to anywhere (MidtownTech Park at Dunham Square).

http://www.midtowntechpark.com/

 

A portent of things to come?

Fantastic stuff.  Also interesting that the MidTown Tech Park website (http://www.midtowntechpark.com/) describes itself as "at Dunham Square" in their logo.

Cleveland Heart Lab news is here:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,3435.msg577073.html#msg577073

Got some responses from Dunham, though lady couldn't answer my question whether or not house/tavern originally had shutters....

The red is only there because they replaced some bad clapboards with those unneeded with the barn project.  Two sides - south and another - are being painted the pale gray, which I'm told has been determined the original color after some 28 layers were examined.  That sort of thing is quite significant to us preservation purists. :clap:

"We think it will take us less than a year to have it fully occupied," said Terry Coyne, a Grubb & Ellis broker representing the property. Coyne's family also invested in the project.

 

MidTown Tech Park developer Fred Geis said he hopes to open one new project in the corridor each year.

 

That's just shocking to me. That's a lot of square footage!

 

I keep hoping that this will also put more pressure on filling downtown buildings, or for creating demand for new ones. But I'm just as happy that Midtown is getting this kind of development to restore lost density and build on all those vacant lots. If more housing is mixed in, then this can be an active area 24/7. That's really my only concern: that Midtown is a dead zone after 5 p.m. and that can be a little intimidating.

 

Considering that more new-hires are coming to the region to work in these new places, at the Clinic, work/study at the universities and elsewhere, a mix of permanent and extended-stay housing in this corridor might be worth adding. It's a good spot for "entry-level living/welcome-wagon housing" with the HealthLine bus route and being midway between the region's two largest employment centers. Just my opinion.

 

EDIT: and my suggested locations for "entry-level living/welcome-wagon housing" are 1. between Euclid and Chester between East 69th and East 70th where there are already a few single-family homes, and 2. on the SW corner of Euclid and East 55th where something with a little more density/height might be considered.

Next door to Midtown Tech Park, more Geiss work:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjames0408/6161352252/#

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjames0408/6161353820/#

 

And across the street:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjames0408/6160817411/#

 

Senior Housing Project:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjames0408/6161350756/#

 

And across the street and nearly complete:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjames0408/6160810579/#

Work on the Salvation Army building:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjames0408/6161357866/#

Wondering if they're going to paint all the brick red now, like on east side. The ultimate would be to restore the whole exterior but obviously that's not in the works, as west side already has the new windows.  Whole thing looks somewhat better, anyway.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that lafont was talking about the Salvation Army building, which is being renovated by Cleveland Construction Co. ( http://www.clevelandconstruction.com/InteriorDetail.aspx?ProjectID=94) and should look quite nice and be a visual 'plus' when it's all done...  or at least more than it previously was. The building fits in with the little cluster around the Agora Theater. It is true that the flat eastern side was painted over with red, but I HOPE they do not intend on doing that to the western side and the front. There is some nice detail in the yellow brick side.

 

Also, at the risk of bringing up the Dunham, it's exterior freshening up is done and now Cleveland's oldest building is good to go for a few (several?) years. She looks as good as she did in 1824.

 

5005 Euclid Ave:

 

 

(picture from Cleve Const Co.)

She looks as good as she did in 1824.

 

 

Damn. You have a good memory!!

 

Ha!

Though it's all a blur before 1820.

Sure - I was referring to the Salvation Army building. I think renovation of existing buildings is perfectly appropriate in a "Filling In Euclid Avenue" forum. If we start fragmenting every project going on in the Corridor into separate forums it would be far too many forums and far too little continuity. Painting of Dunham, restoring bldg. east of Dunham, adding an outdoor terrace to Galucci's, remodeling Salvation Army - they're not exactly all "filling in" but they certainly are investing in Euclid Avenue" and I think that's what this particular forum has been all about from the beginning. 8-)

So what's now going on with 7000 Euclid?  Major project, I see.  I know one or two here had mentioned it but there was discussion about the bi plans for 7100, and there's still no sign any construction is going on there.  In fact there an area on the west side borded up - ugly!

As for 7000, I'm very glad to see the terra-cotta respected and the new windows are an acceptable design. Big parking lot on west side?  That's not so nice but I don't know what the alternative would be.  I supposed with some imagination and $ the new lot could be made reasonably attractive. For urban values, however, I'd like to see a new building there facing Euclid and parking only behind. :yap:

From Freshwater:

 

 

midtown tech park and health-tech corridor designed to stem outward flow of medical start-ups

Lee Chilcote | Thursday, October 13, 2011

 

Every year, Cleveland’s growing healthcare economy nourishes dozens of successful start-up companies. Until recently, however, once these firms outgrew their space at the Cleveland Clinic or one of the city’s business incubators, they almost inevitably fled to the suburbs or moved out of the region. That’s because the city lacked the real estate product they needed: flexible, technology-ready office space with room to grow.

 

But now, thanks to the recent completion of the 128,000-square-foot MidTown Tech Park on Euclid Avenue, start-ups that once left for the ‘burbs have good reason to stick around. Last month, Hemingway Development, which built the MidTown Tech Park on a former used car lot on a spec, inked a 10-year deal to lease 27,000 square feet to Cleveland HeartLab. The fast-growing start-up, which has swelled from eight to 80 employees in just two years, plans to move in next month.

 

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/features/healthtech101311.aspx

The quote of the day is from that article....

 

“They know they can’t attract 20-somethings as easily to Solon,” he says. “Here you have an urban setting, and people are buying into the vision for Euclid Avenue.”

 

AWESOME

If more housing is mixed in, then this can be an active area 24/7. That's really my only concern: that Midtown is a dead zone after 5 p.m. and that can be a little intimidating.

 

I'm with you.  But even if they put a sprinkle of housing here, a sprinkle there... I think the dead zone aspect is a done deal at this point.  I wish these tech center projects all the best.  I really do.  But I still view them as a mismatch.     

^ Agreed.

If more housing is mixed in, then this can be an active area 24/7. That's really my only concern: that Midtown is a dead zone after 5 p.m. and that can be a little intimidating.

 

 

Parts of downtown are still a dead zone after 5 p.m. I think it will be a long time till we can call midtown a 24/7 area. Not in our lifetimes. I just hope we can call downtown one, which I think is possible in the the next 15 years.

I think change happens much faster and slower than we expect it will.

^^^ Baker Street is a really good song.