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Have you visited our new spot in midtown Cleveland? We’re in our soft opening phase, offering a partial menu. We’re here from 7:30am to 3pm during weekdays. We’d love to see you!!!

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Where are they in Midtown?

Link 59 building

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Cool, glad to see some retail going in there.

Where are they in Midtown?

Looks like Link 59 based off of the orange in the picture.

I don't see any of the pictures that some people post for some reason.  In fact, nothing even marks that they are supposed to be there, but missing.

Mine were photos they posted with their tweet.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 4 weeks later...

Here's another potential project coming to the fore....

 

http://www.loopnet.com/for-sale/cleveland-oh/?e=u

 

Midtown Redevelopment Project

Cleveland, OH 44103 ·  121,040 SF Total ·  Retail Properties

 

Sale Notes

• Mixed-use Development project totaling 71,610 SF on 1.75 acres in the heart of Midtown

• Neighboring the Link 59 Building, University Hospital, Dave’s Market and the Phoenix Building

• Along the Health Corridor on Euclid Avenue

• At the corner of East 63rd and Euclid Avenue with over 15,232 vehicles per day

• Less than eight minutes from the Cleveland Clinic, University Hospitals, and Case Western Reserve University

• Twenty minutes from Hopkins International Airport

• Easy to access from east, west, and south, with eight major access points to the interstate highway system (I-71, I-77, I-90 and the East 55th Street link to I-490)

• Eight minutes to Cleveland Public Square

 

BROCHURE: https://images2.loopnet.com/d2/MJ-WwqaDbZKL4dZuWjPrTDvrr5kaxxyRnCq_GBo8mAs/document.pdf

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^I am surprised Hemingway did not/has not bought the buildings.  Maybe they feel they currently have too many balls in the air.

Hopefully someone takes this on. The buildings certainly look old and underused enough to be good candidates for the historic preservation credit.

Recently took a tour of the always-fun Dunham Tavern and the tour guide (who is on the museum's board) said the One Midtown condos are selling pretty briskly, even with the $400K price point (which is indeed what they are asking for on their website).

 

Pretty amazing turn of events, given where this area has been in my lifetime.  One, the fact that the condos (condos!) got financed in the first place in that part of Cleveland.  Two, that there are buyers willing to pay that price in what has not been a residential neighborhood in such a long time. 

I like the fact that Midtown is equal distance between downtown and university circle. You have the best of both worlds in terms of sporting events and plays in the former and museums and concerts in the latter. Easy bike ride either way. Midtown doesn't have its own identity but the location is very good and is its best selling point.

I like the fact that Midtown is equal distance between downtown and university circle. You have the best of both worlds in terms of sporting events and plays in the former and museums and concerts in the latter. Easy bike ride either way. Midtown doesn't have its own identity but the location is very good and is its best selling point.

 

I would love to see how it would have developed if the Health Line was a high frequency light rail tram. 

Recently took a tour of the always-fun Dunham Tavern and the tour guide (who is on the museum's board) said the One Midtown condos are selling pretty briskly, even with the $400K price point (which is indeed what they are asking for on their website).

 

Pretty amazing turn of events, given where this area has been in my lifetime.  One, the fact that the condos (condos!) got financed in the first place in that part of Cleveland.  Two, that there are buyers willing to pay that price in what has not been a residential neighborhood in such a long time.

 

"Luxury real estate" is artificially affordable in Cleveland due to the tax abatement for better or worse.

I like the fact that Midtown is equal distance between downtown and university circle. You have the best of both worlds in terms of sporting events and plays in the former and museums and concerts in the latter. Easy bike ride either way. Midtown doesn't have its own identity but the location is very good and is its best selling point.

 

Jeff Epstein over at the CDC there is working on an identify for the area. I think they are going to rollout signage throughout with the Midtown Moniker. What it needs though is a "Downtown." A cencentration of shops, bars and restaurants that is the center of that area, much like what West 25th, Cedar/Fairmount or Cedar/Lee have.

 

That intersection of 55th and Euclid would work well, but maybe even the Church Square area, but that may be too far east.

That would be great to see. Weren't they starting that with the Penn Square branding for the Euclid-East 55th area, which was a mini-downtown before the 1970s? I think that area works, what with the Agora theater and the office conversions in the area. They can supply foot traffic in the weekdays, evenings and weekends. Church Square could be more of a retail mini-downtown and some of the old churches could be renovated with new uses, including for pop-up businesses/shops.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Cleveland Development Advisors (CDA), the real estate affiliate of the Greater Cleveland Partnership, provided a $250,000 loan to facilitate the opening of The Cleveland Bagel Company’s second location on Cleveland’s east side.  The new location at 7501 Carnegie will give Cleveland Bagel access to a larger food production facility allowing the company to expand its wholesale market.  In addition, the retail operation will add a much-needed amenity to the Midtown neighborhood.  “We are thrilled to welcome Cleveland Bagel to MidTown, adding another high-quality food destination to serve the growing base of employees and residents in our diverse neighborhood,” said Jeff Epstein, Executive Director of MidTown Cleveland.

 

MORE:

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 2 weeks later...

Tru by Hilton progress at Euclid/East 69th....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 1 month later...

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Meh....there's a beautiful old Italianate house behind this commercial addition. Both are proposed to be replaced with a Dunkin Donuts. Such a shame.....

 

7908-7910 CARNEGIE AVENUE DEMOLITION

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Project Information

Euclid Corridor Case #  EC 2018-038

Address:7908 - 7910 Carnegie Avenue

Company:Kolbrook Design, INC.

Architect:Kolbrook Design, INC

 

 

Euclid Corridor Design Review Case Report

DUNKIN DONUT CARNEGIE

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Euclid Corridor Case #  EC 2018-039

Address:7908 Carnegie Avenue

Company:Kolbrook Design, INC.

Architect:Kolbrook Design, INC

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Edited by KJP

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

One of the few remaining vestiges of the Millionaire's Row Era. 

 

Anyone know what is happening on Chester, just east of E40th, north side of the street, approx. 4316 Chester -- construction activity on the lot to the east of the Transaction Realty building?

is that the angle of the photo or is that old brick front corner shop built right up into the front of the old mansion?

 

crazy to lose the historic mansion shell. i hope at least its truly beyond saving. ugh.

Just now, mrnyc said:

is that the angle of the photo or is that old brick front corner shop built right up into the front of the old mansion?

 

crazy to lose the historic mansion shell. i hope at least its truly beyond saving. ugh.

 

Built right up to the front and attached to the front of the mansion. There are a lot of houses in Cleveland that had a commercial building attached to the front of them. It would be an interesting urban planning school project to document these.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

17 hours ago, Foraker said:

Anyone know what is happening on Chester, just east of E40th, north side of the street, approx. 4316 Chester -- construction activity on the lot to the east of the Transaction Realty building?

If you meant just west of the Transaction Realty building, that is going to be a parking lot. The contractor is installing underground detention.

On 10/29/2018 at 12:01 PM, KJP said:

Meh....there's a beautiful old Victorian house behind this commercial addition. Both are proposed to be replaced with a Dunkin Donuts. Such a shame.....

 

7908-7910 CARNEGIE AVENUE DEMOLITION

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Project Information

Euclid Corridor Case #  EC 2018-038

Address:7908 - 7910 Carnegie Avenue

Company:Kolbrook Design, INC.

Architect:Kolbrook Design, INC

 

 

Euclid Corridor Design Review Case Report

DUNKIN DONUT CARNEGIE

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Project Information

Euclid Corridor Case #  EC 2018-039

Address:7908 Carnegie Avenue

Company:Kolbrook Design, INC.

Architect:Kolbrook Design, INC

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Awful....

 

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Weird, but they show the Victorian house/commercial addition that's proposed to be demolished in the background of this image....

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This and all the new dollar stores are absolutely terrible.

  • 1 month later...

Ten Northeast Ohio buildings are awarded Historic Preservation Tax Credits

 

Cleveland Masonic Temple (Cleveland)

Total project cost: $14,081,500

Total tax credit: $1,400,000

Address: 3615 Euclid Ave., Cleveland, 44115

 

Description: "The Cleveland Masonic Temple, located in Cleveland's Midtown neighborhood, includes an auditorium space as well as former lodge, banquet and office spaces. Designed in the Romanesque Revival style and constructed in 1918-1920, the building is now underutilized. After rehabilitation, the building will become a concert, performance and events venue."

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/ten-northeast-ohio-buildings-are-awarded-historic-preservation-tax-credits

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Progress on the Tru Hilton:

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The Healthline and the 16 pass within a couple blocks of the new Dave's.  The population/grocery store ratio of Payne-Sterling is actually still pretty high though it is all Asian groceries now, and Midtown has a full service grocer.  Overall I consider this a win for the city.

9 hours ago, X said:

The Healthline and the 16 pass within a couple blocks of the new Dave's.  The population/grocery store ratio of Payne-Sterling is actually still pretty high though it is all Asian groceries now, and Midtown has a full service grocer.  Overall I consider this a win for the city.

 

I disagree.  This was a neighborhood store that many residents could walk to.  Now they will have to take a bus for a couple miles, then walk a couple blocks to get there.  Also, the population density has to be much lower around this new location.

 

It's nice that Midtown is getting a store, but it's too bad that it had to be at the expense of an existing one.

The #16 bus on East 55th leaves East 55th to go down Chester, East 59th and Euclid to serve the new Dave's and the UH facility. You can transfer to it from the #38 on Payne/Hough on 55th. Perhaps RTA could consider routing the #38 down 55th to Chester, then go back up to Hough on East 66th.

 

And I realize the Park-to-Shop grocery store on East 30th isn't as nice as a Dave's, but it is a full-service supermarket.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Goodrich-Kirtland Park (aka Payne-Sterling, aka Asiatown) doesn't have much population, not enough to support 1 full service grocery, let alone several (the others are all Asian import oriented, but the demographics of the neighborhood are also heavily Asian).  Most of the people going to that Dave's were driving already- probably from nearby neighborhoods without a full service grocer at all, like Hough, Fairfax, or St. Clair/Superior.

 

But yes, it would always be nice if there could just be infinite full service, high quality grocers within a quick convenient walk to everybody, numbers be damned!

 

Demographic Data:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/2010census/downloads/Goodrich-KirtlandPark.pdf

There may be some future development for the current Payne Ave location and the parking lot.  Stay tuned. 

Edited by freefourur

28 minutes ago, X said:

Goodrich-Kirtland Park (aka Payne-Sterling, aka Asiatown) doesn't have much population, not enough to support 1 full service grocery, let alone several (the others are all Asian import oriented, but the demographics of the neighborhood are also heavily Asian).  Most of the people going to that Dave's were driving already- probably from nearby neighborhoods without a full service grocer at all, like Hough, Fairfax, or St. Clair/Superior.

 

But yes, it would always be nice if there could just be infinite full service, high quality grocers within a quick convenient walk to everybody, numbers be damned!

 

Demographic Data:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/2010census/downloads/Goodrich-KirtlandPark.pdf

 

There needs to be a happy medium, otherwise urbanism becomes difficult to pull off.  I'd be happier about this whole situation if the plan for Midtown had tried to put more people in walking distance.  Instead we've got a bunch of offices with excellent grocery access, and a bunch of parking with excellent transit access.  None of that makes sense.

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10 minutes ago, X said:

... yes, it would always be nice if there could just be infinite full service, high quality grocers within a quick convenient walk to everybody, numbers be damned!

 

 

Prior to WW2, Fisher Foods had 356 stores in the Cleveland region and they pretty much WERE in walking distance of most residents. These stores, however, were fairly small with mostly basic food items (fruit, vegetables, meat, and staples). along the lines of Constantino's today.  It's possible to go back to that model, but prices would have to go up.  Everything's a trade-off. 

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

I'd just like to say this too...

 

A 1 mile walk to Dave's in Ohio City is NOT the same as a 1 mile walk with groceries in most Midtown neighborhoods. 

We all know Giant Eagle would prefer to serve the entire metro thru one massive store with parking for 5000.  And two cashiers.

to me this went down in a way that embodies the worst of Cleveland.  

 

Dave's can and should operate wherever they would like.   And I totally understand why a new project would want them and vice-versa.  

 

It just seems to me, if the City is going to then turn around and subsidize Dave's new project, it would be reasonable to ask in return that the Dave's ownership not limit who they will sell to (they've made it clear they wont allow another grocer to move in).  I get Dave's position, but when you ask for help from the City and other public purpose entities, it is reasonable they ask for something back.     A better arrangement for the people of that neighborhood, especially seniors and those without access to vehicles, could have been reached.

 

I would offer that this would have gone down very differently had the Asian population more political clout within the City. 

 

When I see the City Councilman come to meetings and banally ask folks what they would like to see there (the answer: a grocery) with no tools or strategies for how to get that done, I feel like people are being very (perhaps unintentionally) mislead 

It's definitely a loss for the residents of Asiatown and the viability of car-free life there, but as a silver lining, this is a pretty good building block for a more sustainable residential population in western Midtown and Hough. Fingers crossed we see an uptick in new housing development, market rate and subsidized. 

Timely....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 3 weeks later...

https://midtowncleveland.org/reincarnegie/

 

re+inCarnegie
reconnect- + rethink + reinvest

A NEW PLAN FOR CARNEGIE AVENUE

 

About the Project

 

The City of Cleveland and MidTown Cleveland, with support from the Northeast Ohio Areawide Coordinating Agency (NOACA), are partnering on a plan to re-envision the Carnegie Avenue Corridor.

 

Project Goals

  • Re-envision the corridor’s identity
  • Support economic development by promoting real estate reinvestment and transformative uses for the land
  • Bring physical and aesthetic cohesion to the corridor
  • Increase transportation options

 

Project Objectives

  • Determine the long-term vision for Carnegie Avenue
  • Identify pedestrian and infrastructure improvements
  • Identify land uses that complement nearby neighborhoods that promote walkability and transit use
  • Encourage north-south connectivity for residents of Central and Fairfax to MidTown and beyond
  • Identify key recommendations for equitable development and green infrastructure

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

When the opportunity corridor finishes up, there will will be a fairly large drop in traffic as everyone shifts to the new route. I wouldn't mind seeing the Carnegie offramp eliminated to help as well. 

  • 2 weeks later...

Tell them....

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The plan we went with for Euclid Avenue is what I might have suggested for Carnegie. 

  • 2 weeks later...

TempleLive owner completing first phase of work on Cleveland Masonic Temple

Fort Smith-based Beaty Capital Group, owner of TempleLive in downtown Fort Smith, announced Tuesday (Jan. 29) it is completing the first phase of an estimated $8 million, two-phase renovation of the 200,000-square-foot Masonic Temple in Cleveland, Ohio.

https://talkbusiness.net/2019/01/templelive-owner-completing-first-phase-of-work-on-cleveland-masonic-temple/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The line that I thought was really interesting was this:  "Beaty Capital owner Lance Beaty told Talk Business & Politics the first two phases of the Cleveland renovation work will cost around $8 million, with a much larger third phase in development with costs yet unknown."

 

I wonder what that could be.

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