A few from along Euclid Avenue, East 93rd to Public Square.

 

For those that don't know:

 

The Euclid Corridor project is a 200 million dollar project that is renovating Cleveland's main street, Euclid Avenue. The seven mile long project will add Bus only lanes and bicycle lanes in addition to existing car lanes. The buses will be new articulated buses and will come to the stations located in the middle of the street every 5 minutes. The project will shorten the commute along this corridor and give new reason for developers to invest in Cleveland along Euclid Avenue.

 

1) The new Cleveland Clinic Heart Center

 

2) Newer homes in Beacon Place/Villas of Woodhaven on East 83rd.

 

3) Looking West along Euclid @ East 83rd

 

4) Office/parking garage construction at Cleveland Clinic

 

5) Villas of Woodhaven along Euclid Avenue

 

6) More Beacon Place

 

7) Key tower From 83.5 blocks out.

 

8) West down Euclid at about East 75th, with Aldi :roll:.

 

9) Not sure of the name of this building being rehabbed.

 

10)

 

11) Not sure of the name of this abandoned apartment tower, but hopefully it won't be abandoned for too long.

 

12) A few houses at East 73rd and Euclid

 

13) Not sure, Does someone know the name here?

 

14) Down Euclid at 55th

 

 

15) A new garbage can on CSU part of the EC

 

 

16) University Plaza near the new/proposed CSU college town

 

 

17) Euclid across from CSU

 

 

18) Euclid at Playhouse Square and East 14th, E-line trolley to the left

 

 

19) Again, sans trolley, but plus a Lexus. Wyndham hotel on the right, US bank building to the left.

 

 

20) Halle Building on the left, not sure on the right.

 

 

21) Terminal in the distance, East 9th just ahead, with the Ameritrust Rotunda to the left.

 

 

22) Ameritrust tower sticking out above its neighbors.

 

 

23) 515 Euclid Parking Garage, with retail space avaiable for lease on the ground. Slated to add a 28 story+ condo tower at some point

 

 

24) The Corner Alley at East 4th and Euclid. Across the street a new entertainment venue is getting prepped

 

 

25) Down East 4th

 

 

26) The new Tereasa's Pizzaria, Jimmyjohns and the Bang and Clatter Music theater being worked on, all just down the street from the Cleveland House of Blues.

 

 

27) The Positively Cleveland Office/Visitors center, formerly Cleveland Conventioners Bureau, Formerly Dillard's, formerly Higbees! If you can't tell what the tower to the right is, you're not from Cleveland

 

 

28) One Public Square Station

 

 

29) Heading East on the E-line trolley

 

 

30) Skyline shot from, as Mayday pointed out I-490.

 

 

 

you know.. this makes me want to drive all the way to cleveland.. just this haha  nice pictures

Great set - and you got my favorite skyline view (from 490) :clap:

Urban Aldi's, lol!

 

Interesting stuff!

Nice, I just wish I knew the names and locations of the buildings. 

Aside from being art, does the "stuff" on the garbage can mean anything?

 

Great pictures btw...

Nice shots.

Imagine the kind of investment Cleveland could attract to the corridor if it had light rail instead of buses. For all the money and disruption, it would have been better to do a rail line.

Nice and thorough set of the ECP. See you next week Cleveland.

Imagine the kind of investment Cleveland could attract to the corridor if it had light rail instead of buses. For all the money and disruption, it would have been better to do a rail line.

I feel as though incorporating a rail line would have disrupted the integrity of the street more just because if the infrastructure needed to support one.  And BRT, a relatively new concept, seems to be the way alot of cities are going.  I don't know if you understand how BRT works, but it does not follow the normal signaling on the street, rather it has it's own set of signals like a train and stops at stations. 

Thank you Mov2Ohio, a photo thread of the corridor is long overdue! I especially like this one,  looking west from E. 55th -- this section is all but complete and (with the bike lane and BRT station) shows how the project is transforming Euclid into a street that accommodates something other than cars.

 

When's this project slated for completion?  Looking good so far.  We have a BRT line in LA and it is insanely successful.  If Euclid is a heavy commuting corridor... I don't see why Cleveland shouldn't see the same success.

nice work...

 

And for the love of god, no BRT vs. LRT discussion here, we've beaten that horse to death in the transportation forum.

Euclid Corridor rules!! (insert Billy Madison joke here)

Imagine the kind of investment Cleveland could attract to the corridor if it had light rail instead of buses. For all the money and disruption, it would have been better to do a rail line.

I feel as though incorporating a rail line would have disrupted the integrity of the street more just because if the infrastructure needed to support one.  And BRT, a relatively new concept, seems to be the way alot of cities are going.  I don't know if you understand how BRT works, but it does not follow the normal signaling on the street, rather it has it's own set of signals like a train and stops at stations. 

 

Rail wouldn't change the integrity. Euclid grew a century ago as a light-rail corridor.

 

I would love to have seen light rail along Euclid as well but am still excited about the transformational powers of the BRT line.

 

As mentioned above, the section from E. 17th, where Playhouse Square meets Cleveland State, to E. 55th is more or less complete, and the No. 6 Euclid buses are using the new center platforms in that stretch. The other two buses that travel Euclid are still stopping at the curb. If you drive along this part of the street, the change from the potholed Euclid Ave. of old is startling, and I think that the dedicated bike lanes from University Circle to CSU will provide the best and safest route for those of us who are farther from the lake.

 

For now, drivers are lining up with a stripe on the pavement to bring the buses close enough to the platforms. In the near future, an ingenious docking arm, designed specifically for the Euclid Corridor, will guide the 60-ft.-long vehicles of the Silver Line, as well as the standard 40-footers of the 7, 9, and 32 lines, into place at the stations.

 

RTA is planning to open the entire line in October of 2008, which would be a few months ahead of schedule. There have been unexpected delays beyond its control west of Playhouse Square and on the Cleveland Clinic campus.

 

 

I like the unique street lights, looks like they are the type that minimize light pollution.  I am glad they didn't put up fake old fashioned ones.

Thanks for all the comments everybody!

 

From Heights to Harlem: Maybe if you can tell me what pictures/buildings you want to know the location of I, or others here can tell you. I should be able to atleast give building locations.

 

From Heights to Harlem: Maybe if you can tell me what pictures/buildings you want to know the location of I, or others here can tell you. I should be able to atleast give building locations.

 

Well, since you asked.  I've been away so long and don't know names/locations of buildings. If its not to much to ask, captions for each picture would be helpful.  :-D

 

From Heights to Harlem: Maybe if you can tell me what pictures/buildings you want to know the location of I, or others here can tell you. I should be able to atleast give building locations.

 

Well, since you asked.  I've been away so long and don't know names/locations of buildings. If its not to much to ask, captions for each picture would be helpful.  :-D

 

I added some captions where I could, and numbers to make it easier. Hopefully others know the ones I don't.

 

From Heights to Harlem: Maybe if you can tell me what pictures/buildings you want to know the location of I, or others here can tell you. I should be able to atleast give building locations.

 

Well, since you asked.  I've been away so long and don't know names/locations of buildings. If its not to much to ask, captions for each picture would be helpful.  :-D

 

I added some captions where I could, and numbers to make it easier. Hopefully others know the ones I don't.

 

thank you, thank you, thank you! 

 

The beacon Place/Villas.  Are those to own or rentals?  They look gorgeos.  I had no idea there were homes on 73 and Euclid.  I can only imagine the size of those homes and what the neighborhood might have looked like 40 years ago.

No problem. Those are to buy/own.

 

 

9) Not sure of the name of this building being rehabbed.

 

That's the luther Allen House, seen here in 2005. You'll notice just how much progress has been made

 

Few more old pics here: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4680.0 (low quality, old camera)

great work -- yes we sure needed a thread for euclid progress. i hope that apt building on #11 can be renovated.

 

oh yeah....yay for mr. hero!

splendid thread, the station at public square looks great, helps to negate the seemingly seedy nature of the south west corner of public square. 

i just found this out today but apparently the lobbying firm that i am an intern at, im at the office now actualy, represents RTA here in columbus.  see if i can get some scoops on projects since they use us to secure state and some federal funding for issues.

i hope that apt building on #11 can be renovated.

 

Definitely- that thing is a hulking beast of vacancy.  Anyone know the history of this building?

 

Those fast food joints on Euclid are such landscape blights- I hope they get bought ought some day...but I'm not optimistic.

 

Great work M2O!

How about the location? I can't place it.

Euclid and East 75th. I believe they were built as the Rugby Apartments:

 

Hmmm, interesting.  I forget how many grand apartment houses were built on Euclid Avenue even before the commercial areas really grew.  Searching for "apartment" in Cleveland Memory Project turned up a lot of old beauties (in various conditions, depending on when the photo was taken):

 

http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/press&CISOPTR=1221&REC=18

 

http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/press&CISOPTR=1034&REC=20

 

http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/press&CISOPTR=1231&REC=18

 

http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/postcards&CISOPTR=2525&REC=19

[these are still standing]

 

http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/postcards&CISOPTR=2519&REC=12

 

Cheating- this one was on Prospect: http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/postcards&CISOPTR=2523&REC=20

 

But then again, don't we all just prefer this? http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/postcards&CISOPTR=2539&REC=19

 

For the umpteenth time, it is just so astounding how much old stuff has been torn down and, in many cases, replaced with...nothing. :(

 

OK, back to BRT progress, sorry mods.

The old Luther Allen House in Photo 9 has been in "renovation" for about a decade now. It had the nasty 1950s "modernization" and office facade stuck onto what was a beautiful mansion. When I saw the scaffolding go up years ago, I was hoping they were going to remove the office facade altogether.

 

The Rugby Apartments in Photo 11 have been abandoned for a couple of decades. Believe it or not, but the site has been cleaned up a bit. There was a truck trailer that sat there abandoned for years.

 

The Rugby Apartments, 7338 Euclid, were built in 1925. Today, they are owned by Eaton Rugby LLC (which is owned by Jay Junior, who lives on Cliff Drive in the Edgewater neighborhood). Although Jay Junior bought the building in his name in 1999, he transferred it to Eaton Rugby LLC in 2002. The prior owner C&J Realty Corp had it since 1976 and let the building go to hell.

 

Picture #13 is the Victory Building, 7012 Euclid Ave., home of Refrigeration Sales Corp.

 

Picture #20, the building to the right of Halle's is the Cleveland Athletic Club.

Thought I'd share some pictures of Euclid Avenue from back in the day, and showing the often forgotten portion between East 55th and the Cleveland Clinic.

 

 

A grand old apartment house, Stoneleigh, at 6801 Euclid Ave. in 1952:

 

 

 

The same apartment house, 16 years later, with residents posting American flags in the hopes that the Paris Peace Talks will end the Vietnam War (it would take another five years):

 

 

 

Another grand old dame, at 8314 Euclid in 1911:

 

 

 

This is the Euclid Manor apartments, advertising "suburban living in the city" at East 77th and Euclid, circa 1920:

 

 

No description needed (although this is prior to the hospital relocating to East Cleveland):

 

 

 

Taken during the Great Blizzard of 1950, looking west on Euclid in East 70s:

 

 

 

Euclid at East 75th, 1935:

 

 

 

Euclid at East 79th, 1951 (looking east at north side of street):

 

 

 

Same intersection, just 15 years later (looking east at south side of street and the long-gone St. Agnes Cathedral):

 

 

 

Euclid at East 81st, 1956:

 

 

 

Euclid at East 84th, 1967 (and you thought the area was ugly today!?!?):

 

 

 

And, I had to throw in my favorite picture of Euclid Avenue outside of downtown. This is at East 105th Street in 1946. Every building at this intersection is gone, replaced with suburban-style, low-density development. One can only hope the Euclid Corridor BRT will help restore some of that lost density that makes a city truly enjoyable and energetic:

 

wow.  If I had the cash, I would replicate all those building, sans the late 60s buildings where auto dealers and mickey d's appeared on Euclid.

 

I'm totally depressed.

Then this probably will hurt just as much:

 

Found this picture of a fire at the Alhambra Theater (Euclid and East 105th) in 1950. The fire is just part of the story -- the name of the movie is the rest. I think the title is appropriate for Greater Cleveland's response to what was just starting to happen to it:

 

 

Bye-bye Alhambra (in 1976).....

 

 

 

...and everything else at Euclid-105th!

 

 

 

Compare the photo I took from the roof of the Hospice of the Western Reserve in 2000 to the 1946 photo (almost the same angle, but from a building closer to 105th):

 

1946......

 

 

2000.......

 

Thanks for posting these KJP, wow!

thank you Cleveland Clinic.  However, its a double edged sword.  If they didn't demolish stuff and rebuild, would Cleveland Clinic be what it is today.  Why was nobody (including those of us old enough to remember those buildings) making sure that those structures were preserved?

 

UGH...now I'm Pissed the f*ck off!

My grandpa had a music store on 105th and Euclid from 1950-1973 -- Costello's Music.  He tried to hold out, but the the last 5 years he wasn't makng much of a profit/had losses, and finally has to sell for the sake of the family.  The poor man who bought it from him was robbed 3 times in the first month and closed that same year.  As you can see from above, it was knocked down about 1975.  Very sad to lose this great intersection so quickly.  For the betterment to pave the way for the Cleveland clinic expansion in all retrospect??  I sure hope so.

My gripe is not that the Clinic felt that it needed to expand in place and demolition of non-medical buildings in the neighborhood was the consequence (it hurts, I know), but that they replaced them with structures that are so out of context... I mean, look at that lawn!  My question is who at the Clinic finds this style to be attractive (let alone an efficient use of scarce land) and when are they going to come around and see the bigger picture?

Wow, KJP, that sure puts my links to Cleveland Memory Project to shame- thanks!  Euclid Manor sure looks better with landscaping in its front yard than it does with the parking lots in front today.  One other gem that was in this area was the old Venice Apartments (http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/u?/herrick,126) which somehow managed to stick around into the 90s.  I was so pissed when it was (needlessly) demolished.

 

As for the Clinic- I know it occupies some of the space vacated by these lost structures (in some cases, even with buildings!), but I don't think it had a direct hand in much of the demo, did it?  What was on the site of the Cole Eye Institute previously?  I'm sure there would have been plenty of room for both neighborhood and clinic had the neighborhood not been leveled...

 

What's really annoying is that the demo hasn't even stopped on Euclid.

 

 

Thanks for the tour!

As for the Clinic- I know it occupies some of the space vacated by these lost structures (in some cases, even with buildings!), but I don't think it had a direct hand in much of the demo, did it?

 

Unfortunately it did. The clinic requested permission from the city to demolish the neighborhood at East 105th and Euclid, including the low-cost apartments and transient hotels on the upper floors of a number of buildings. There was a fair amount of press coverage at the time, with neighborhood activists battling the Clinic using the argument of preserving and remodeling the buildings for affordable housing.

 

The neighborhood had become a crime-infested area, as low-income black people flooded in from the southerm states in search of manufacturing jobs that were no longer in abundance, middle-class residents and merchants fled to the suburbs and the city had no idea how to handle this new challenge. The only money left in the neighborhood was for less-appealing activities. The grand old vaudeville theaters at Euclid/East 105th found new uses, including one which reopened as "The Love Nest" where live sex shows were offered. The sleaze attracted hookers, drugs and violence.

 

So the Clinic's argument won out:  that the neighborhood was a source of crime, was scaring away clients and was in the way of expansion. They used the tried and true argument that, if the Clinic couldn't demolish the neighborhood, the Clinic would leave for the suburbs.

 

Like the silly line uttered by the army officer in Vietnam: "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."

^Very interesting.

I can't help thinking of New York City, where areas like 105th-Euclid descended to similar depths of mayhem but survived and have since rebounded. See Union Square, parts of Harlem, Times Square. I suppose the difference is that NYC had much tighter land constraints coupled with greater population pressures (however many people were displaced from 105th-Euclid, in New York the densities were several times higher and the disruption would have been greater). Different economics too -- New York didn't sink as far or as fast as Cleveland and has long since rebounded from its 60s/70s slump, effectively putting an end to demolition, while Cleveland has not.

If the Clinic had left for the burbs, these buildings probably wouldn't have survived anyway, given the level of disinvestment that occurred in Cleveland in the 1960s and 1970s. I can only hope, like KJP, for a more enlightened future -- and I believe there are reasons for being optimistic.

It kills me that this neighbohood declined so much and was erradicated from the city.  Along with East 55th and Euclid, I would have liked to have seen it survive the 70's and 80's demolision marathon and been revived in some manner.  Those two places were gritty as hell and are something that can never be duplicated.  Damn shame.

As for the Clinic- I know it occupies some of the space vacated by these lost structures (in some cases, even with buildings!), but I don't think it had a direct hand in much of the demo, did it?

 

Unfortunately it did. The clinic requested permission from the city to demolish the neighborhood at East 105th and Euclid, including the low-cost apartments and transient hotels on the upper floors of a number of buildings. There was a fair amount of press coverage at the time, with neighborhood activists battling the Clinic using the argument of preserving and remodeling the buildings for affordable housing.

 

The neighborhood had become a crime-infested area, as low-income black people flooded in from the southerm states in search of manufacturing jobs that were no longer in abundance, middle-class residents and merchants fled to the suburbs and the city had no idea how to handle this new challenge. The only money left in the neighborhood was for less-appealing activities. The grand old vaudeville theaters at Euclid/East 105th found new uses, including one which reopened as "The Love Nest" where live sex shows were offered. The sleaze attracted hookers, drugs and violence.

 

So the Clinic's argument won out:  that the neighborhood was a source of crime, was scaring away clients and was in the way of expansion. They used the tried and true argument that, if the Clinic couldn't demolish the neighborhood, the Clinic would leave for the suburbs.

 

Like the silly line uttered by the army officer in Vietnam: "We had to destroy the village in order to save it."

 

Wow, really interesting- thanks for the historical perspective.  I had no idea the clinic had started warehousing so much land so early on.

I love the smell of progress in the morning.

Gorgeous stuff, thx for the tour.

^Very interesting.

I can't help thinking of New York City, where areas like 105th-Euclid descended to similar depths of mayhem but survived and have since rebounded. See Union Square, parts of Harlem, Times Square. I suppose the difference is that NYC had much tighter land constraints coupled with greater population pressures (however many people were displaced from 105th-Euclid, in New York the densities were several times higher and the disruption would have been greater). Different economics too -- New York didn't sink as far or as fast as Cleveland and has long since rebounded from its 60s/70s slump, effectively putting an end to demolition, while Cleveland has not.

If the Clinic had left for the burbs, these buildings probably wouldn't have survived anyway, given the level of disinvestment that occurred in Cleveland in the 1960s and 1970s. I can only hope, like KJP, for a more enlightened future -- and I believe there are reasons for being optimistic.

 

They also had a more active preservation movement earlier than we did, stemming from the loss of historic Penn Station in the early 1960s.  Our is still struggling to gain stable footing in a town where the value of surface parking often outweighs that of historic structures in need of some adaptive reuse.

It kills me that this neighbohood declined so much and was erradicated from the city.  Along with East 55th and Euclid, I would have liked to have seen it survive the 70's and 80's demolision marathon and been revived in some manner.  Those two places were gritty as hell and are something that can never be duplicated.  Damn shame.

 

Throw in all the Millionaire Row mansions that were demolished to add to the damn shame category.  Everytime I think about it I can't believe they were demolished.  Although I believe for some of them it was the owners request to have them demolished after they passed away.  They could have become a tourist attraction in some ways how the victorian homes are in San Fran.

Question to the mods.  We've seemed to have HiJacked this thread. 

 

Can discussion about demolitions, be moved to the Various demolitions taking place in Cleveland thread?

well, they're not exactly "taking place" so much as they've taken place over several decades