Posted May 16, 200520 yr since we live where we live, on the border of chelsea and greenwich village, i thought it about time to put the camera on gay new york. the meatpacking district the pictureseque triangle building on 9th avenue at 14th street in the bow of the building vento restaurant's lounge was formerly 'the manhole' fetish bar! the riverview -- home to hedwig, sandra bernhard, some punk shows too the liberty is where 'ymca' was written, i dk if cowboy, the indian or cop lived there chelsea -- 8th ave bet 14th-23rd sts deco joyce dance theater chelsea -- across 23rd street infamous chelsea hotel gym is formerly 'that' ymca, the ymca the song was about chelsea back down 7th avenue peter mcmanus is not gay cafeteria is of sex and the city fame greenwich village -- down seventh mark jackass & wtc memorial tile fence not the real stonewall the real stonewall, ground zero for gay rights piano bars sheridan square the riviera is a red sox bar, so its gay (sorry couldn't resist) 7th ave & christopher street -- to the hudson a truly great old place path train to joisey here we are west at the hudson today its still a place for gay teens to go after school and be left in peace looming gentrification around the corner! *** i hope you enjoyed the tour of historic gay manhattan!
May 16, 200520 yr This thread makes me feel so deprived! I grew up on an Indiana dairy farm, in an era when midwesterners thought homosexuals were something that lived in restrooms on the east and west coasts and seldom, if ever, ventured this far inland. When I figured it out, though, I wasted no time catching up! Great Thread!
May 17, 200520 yr Nice. Reminds me of the Castro with a city feel. Thanks for the great urban photos!
May 22, 200520 yr And you didn't get this guy's phone number for me? Bah! :roll: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 22, 200520 yr And you didn't get this guy's phone number for me? Bah! :roll: sweetie, I love you like a 50% off sale at Barney's, however, I was keeping my eyes open for a potential date of my own! :wink: :-D :wink:
May 23, 200520 yr ^ HAHA, ok for the none gay dudes on this forum (ME) - what the hell is the Chelsea Hotel and how is it infamous? Although I ask and I am not sure if I want to know... (if sausagefest is involved than never mind) ;)
May 23, 200520 yr ^aww i'm not gay monte and neither is the hotel exclusively -- you dont have to be gay to know the nabe! acctually i stayed there once yrs ago, i'll have to dig up and scan the pictures sometime if i can find'em, they're huge apt style w/multi-rooms. this chelsea hotel joint has the most colorful history of any hotel/residence ever, anyone who is anyone in the arts has stayed there. start at the notorious death of the sex pistols sid & nancy and take it from there. this history is from wikipedia: Hotel Chelsea A well-known residence for artists, musicians and writers, the Hotel Chelsea is located in the neighborhood of Chelsea in New York City. The hotel welcomes guests, but is primarily known for its long-term residents, past and present. The Hotel houses artworks created by many of the artists who have visited. The building that now houses the Hotel Chelsea was built in 1883 as a private apartment cooperative and opened in 1884. It was the tallest building in New York until 1902. At the time Chelsea, and particularly 23rd Street, on which the hotel is located (near the intersection of 7th Avenue), was the center of New York's Theater District. Within a few years, a combination of economic worries and the theatres' relocation, had driven the Chelsea cooperative bankrupt. In 1905, the building was purchased and opened as a hotel. The Hotel has always been a centre of artistic and bohemian activity. It is perhaps most well known as the hotel where Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols allegedly stabbed his girlfriend Nancy Spungen to death. During its lifetime Hotel Chelsea has provided a home to many great writers and thinkers including Mark Twain, O. Henry, Dylan Thomas, Arthur C. Clarke, William S. Burroughs, Gregory Corso, Leonard Cohen, Arthur Miller, Quentin Crisp, Gore Vidal, Tennessee Williams, Allen Ginsberg, Brendan Behan, Robert Oppenheimer, Jean-Paul Sartre and feminist great Simone de Beauvoir. The hotel has always been a home to actors and film directors such as, Stanley Kubrick, Milos Forman, Lily Langtree, Dennis Hopper and Jane Fonda. Much of Hotel Chelsea's history has been colored by the musicians who have resided there. Some of the most prominent names include Patti Smith, Dee Dee Ramone of The Ramones, Henri Chopin, John Cale, Edith Piaf, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jobriath. The hotel has featured in and collected the work of the many visual artists who have passed through. Brett Whiteley, Christo, Richard Bernstein, Robert Mapplethorpe, Frida Kahlo, Diego Rivera, Robert Crumb, Jasper Johns, Claes Oldenburg, and Henri Cartier-Bresson have all spent time at Hotel Chelsea. Hotel Chelsea is often associated with the Warhol superstars. Chelsea residents from the Warhol scene included Viva, Ultra Violet, Holly Woodlawn, Edie Sedgwick, Andrea Feldman, Nico of the Velvet Underground, Paul America and Brigid Berlin. Much of an episode of the groundbreaking 1973 PBS reality-television series An American Family was filmed at the Hotel Chelsea, as family member Lance Loud was staying there at the time. The hotel was the first building to be listed by New York City as a cultural preservation site and historic building of note. The hotel was used for location shooting on Sid & Nancy (1986) by Paul Cox Midnight In Chelsea (1997) directed by Mark Pellington, a video to a track from the 1997 Jon Bon Jovi solo album Destination Anywhere Chelsea Walls (2001) by Ethan Hawke Pie in the Sky the Brigid Berlin Story (2002) features a reunion between former resident Brigid Berlin and the artist Richard Bernstein at the Hotel. Most notably, the hotel provided the thematic link for the Andy Warhol film opus Chelsea Girls (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061465/). The hotel is also featured in numerous songs, including: "Hotel Chelsea Nights" by Ryan Adams from Love Is Hell pt. 1 and Love Is Hell "Chelsea Hotel #2" by Leonard Cohen from New Skin for the Old Ceremony "Sex with Sun-RA" by Coil "Ghosts" by Lisa Bastoni (http://www.lisabastoni.com) Downstairs from Hotel Chelsea is a cozy bar, Serena (http://www.serenanyc.com). External link http://www.hotelchelsea.com/
May 23, 200520 yr ^ HAHA, ok for the none gay dudes on this forum (ME) - what the hell is the Chelsea Hotel and how is it infamous? Although I ask and I am not sure if I want to know... (if sausagefest is involved than never mind) ;) sausagefest!!! LMAO LMAO!! :fight:
June 12, 200520 yr LOL ehh... the muscle guys are not my type... i like the "Rainbows and Triangles" its like straight to the point haha
January 31, 200619 yr I had almost forgotten about this great thread. It was fun to browse it again. :-D
February 5, 200619 yr imagine seeing it everyday! the "strip" (take your pic. strip a-christoper street or strip b- 8th avenue (between 14&23 sts. strip-c 125 Street strip d 145 (hamilton hts) It can get to be just too damn much.
February 6, 200619 yr imagine seeing it everyday! the "strip" (take your pic. strip a-christoper street or strip b- 8th avenue (between 14&23 sts. strip-c 125 Street strip d 145 (hamilton hts) It can get to be just too damn much. I can comprehend that feeling. As a former bf and I were leaving San Francisco after spending a few days immersed in San Francisco's gay microcosm, he put into words what I'd felt for a long time: "You know, I think I'm happier in a smaller city where we live and work and shop around all kinds of people, and being gay makes us a little different. Here, it feels like everybody's trying to fit an image and some people have forgotten that anything exists outside their little enclave." Visiting a "gay ghetto" can be fun once in a while, but I don't think I could ever have handled living in one, even when I was young and pretty. (Maybe especially then.)
February 6, 200619 yr That was a pretty good history of the Chelsea Hotel. I always knew of this place in the context of the rock subculture or rock scene), but didn't know of it's connection to the earlier bohemian world. Never made the connection between the hotel and the gay scene, though. The closest I came to living in a gay ghetto was in the Old City of Sacramento, which was not really all that gay, but had a real mishmash of people in it, including a sizeable gay community of both poorer and more "yuppie" folks...the so called "Lavender Heights" (sort of a joke as the Old City was at or below sea level). In retrospect I liked feeling of living in a somewhat accepting/tolerant "safe space"...and the streetlife, of running into freinds and aquintances on the street and being able to walk to places from my apartment. As Sacramento was fairly provincial by California standards there wasn't too much of the "S&M" (Stand and Model)/conformist attitude ...the place was more folksy and laid back.
February 6, 200619 yr I like the healthy balance of my neighborhood (Clifton-Edgewater in Cleveland) - definitely some gay ghetto aspects to it, but because it's in a smaller city there's not that sense of the "scene" being the end-all be-all of everyday life. I like the fact that potential landlords don't flinch at the prospect of renting to a gay tenant, and I like the fact that if someone is in the area to cause trouble, I'll likely have some back-up from people who "get it". "I don't think I could ever have handled living in one, even when I was young and pretty." What's that quote from "Torch Song Trilogy"? "I've been pretty - lord knows I've been young, but never the twain have met" :lol: "some people have forgotten that anything exists outside their little enclave." Oh, I don't know about that - I mean, when I pay a visit to my folks in Appalachia I become acutely aware of what exists outside my little enclave. Fried foods, canned beer, and gunracks! :-o clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 6, 200619 yr Honestly, Gay ghettos in large cities are becoming a thing of the past anyway as far as being mostly gay, and are more like Clifton/Edgewater. Chelsea, Dupont Circle, Boystown, Castro....even though most gay bars tend to be concentrated in those areas, the residents are much more mixed than in the past, and in many cases gays are the minority. They are all desirable neighborhods, and nobody cares anymore whether they are gay or not. There is no stigma for a 'straight' to live in those hoods, and gays are free to live in most other parts of those cities without being harrassed. The neccessity for gays to live in an enclave together is pretty much a thing of the past.
December 13, 200915 yr This thread brings back so many memories. Several changes in this neighborhood, since this was posted.
December 13, 200915 yr You just had to start off with the Meatpacking District, didn't you? Still, the themed tour is a good idea. I might steal it and do a Cbus version.
December 14, 200915 yr ^ haha. you should definately do themed cols threads. still waiting for one from you on the mid-century east broad st neon/motor hotels, if they are still there.
December 19, 200915 yr Oh, there's only like two. And you wouldn't want to see anything gay or straight or otherwise going on there for that matter. Any rougher neighborhoods in NYC that are seeing a new gay presence?
December 19, 200915 yr Oh, there's only like two. And you wouldn't want to see anything gay or straight or otherwise going on there for that matter. Any rougher neighborhoods in NYC that are seeing a new gay presence? Honey, it's NYC, what neighborhood isn't gay is the question?
May 19, 201015 yr Whenever I'm cranky this is one of the threads that cheers me up! Ha! Exactly what I was thinking, just now :-). Totally gay and totally FAAAB-U-LOUS! sausagefest!!! LMAO LMAO!! :fight: Sausagefest,Cleveland-style (takes both hands):
May 19, 201015 yr Whenever I'm cranky this is one of the threads that cheers me up! Ha! Exactly what I was thinking, just now :) . Totally gay and totally FAAAB-U-LOUS! sausagefest!!! LMAO LMAO!! :fight: Sausagefest,Cleveland-style (takes both hands): Well the only thing better than the Cleveland Style Sausage fest is a Greek Style Sausage fest! LMAO! OMG OMG That thread gets "funnier" with every viewing!
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