October 15, 20168 yr The worst thing about revitalized/gentrified neighborhoods is that so many residents, who have themselves been a part of major changes in the neighborhood, end up vehemently opposing further change and seek to treat their streets like gated communities. One day, we're going to be hearing the same kind of stuff out of Franklinton.
January 4, 20178 yr Giant Eagle Closing Victorian Village Store, Plus Two Others Representatives from Giant Eagle announced today that they will soon be closing three area stores. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/giant-eagle-closing-victorian-village-store-plus-two-others "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 4, 20178 yr Giant Eagle Closing Victorian Village Store, Plus Two Others Representatives from Giant Eagle announced today that they will soon be closing three area stores. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/giant-eagle-closing-victorian-village-store-plus-two-others Owned by Casto. I've always thought that Giant Eagle strip mall is the last massive redevelopment site in the Short North, and it's also unique bc you can clearly get away with high-rise next to the Thurber Village and Neil/670 exit.
January 4, 20178 yr The worst thing about revitalized/gentrified neighborhoods is that so many residents, who have themselves been a part of major changes in the neighborhood, end up vehemently opposing further change and seek to treat their streets like gated communities. One day, we're going to be hearing the same kind of stuff out of Franklinton. I think there are classist undertones, but not the classist undertones that society has taught us to sniff out. The thing about gentrified neighborhoods is that they typically attract the nouveau riche, as opposed to old money, so there's antipathy toward developments that bring in anything other than upper-middle incomes. I think I'm certainly guilty of this, sometimes I'm naive enough to think I've made it, so to hell with all of those slackers who just inherited it (or however this train of thought goes). Practically speaking, upper-middle incomes always have the least amount of real estate on the map (I mean which suburb is really theirs, Gahanna? Hilliard? Some paradise lol), so this group has been trained to be particularly defensive. Paranoid about being priced out by wealthier types, yet unafraid to price out Old Town East / Franklinton folks, and unwilling to pack it up and move out to Bethel Road like the social justice warriors seem to want. For instance, is anyone really arguing that Kaufman's twin tower fortress is going to be too cheap? No of course not. It's a power play by those upper-middle income folks trying to tell people with more money what they can and can't do. Whatever.
January 4, 20178 yr Giant Eagle Closing Victorian Village Store, Plus Two Others Representatives from Giant Eagle announced today that they will soon be closing three area stores. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/giant-eagle-closing-victorian-village-store-plus-two-others Owned by Casto. I've always thought that Giant Eagle strip mall is the last massive redevelopment site in the Short North, and it's also unique bc you can clearly get away with high-rise next to the Thurber Village and Neil/670 exit. The site is outside the Victorian Village Area Commission boundaries so the sky's the limit.
January 4, 20178 yr The VV one had to be one of the smallest standard-format stores in the chain. The Hillard-Rome closing surprises me much more. I thought Hillard-Rome could do no wrong...
January 4, 20178 yr Giant Eagle Closing Victorian Village Store, Plus Two Others Representatives from Giant Eagle announced today that they will soon be closing three area stores. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/giant-eagle-closing-victorian-village-store-plus-two-others Owned by Casto. I've always thought that Giant Eagle strip mall is the last massive redevelopment site in the Short North, and it's also unique bc you can clearly get away with high-rise next to the Thurber Village and Neil/670 exit. On 5th Ave., Giant Eagle bought the building AFTER vacating it.
January 4, 20178 yr As much as I'd love another dense, mixed-use development on that site, ... if Trader Joe's wanted to just move right in and leave everything exactly as-is I'd have no problem with it.
January 6, 20178 yr Well, that was fast... Three Columbus-area properties soon will no longer house Giant Eagle supermarkets. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2017/01/05/redevelopment-on-the-table-for-giant-eagle.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 6, 20178 yr ^ Can anyone with access to Biz1st summarize the main points/info of that article?
January 6, 20178 yr ^ Can anyone with access to Biz1st summarize the main points/info of that article? There wasn't any new redevelopment info in that article. Here's the info from the article: "Columbus-based Casto, which owns the Thurber Village shopping center off Neil Avenue, says it only recently learned of Giant Eagle’s decision to close. “(Casto) will continue to work with them regarding our opportunities for potential re-leasing or redevelopment scenarios of our Thurber Village shopping center,” spokeswoman Hilary Deason said in an email. The 23-year-old commercial strip is about a half-mile west of the stretch of High Street in the Short North that has been ground zero for development projects in Columbus."
January 6, 20178 yr It seems like a much older strip mall to me than 23. There was a previous shopping center at that location that probably dates to the 1960's urban renewal era when the Thurber Village high rises were built. I remember it being open when I lived in the area 1992-1994, with Big Bear and SuperX or Revco as anchors. Vaguely I remember the Big Bear being closed off for re-construction, and having to walk to the Kroghetto on High and King instead. There's a picture of the former plaza at: http://columbusneighborhoods.org/story/big-bear-777-neil-ave-thurber-village/
January 7, 20178 yr Ah, the old building didn't seem so old when I was hanging around there in the '80s!
January 8, 20178 yr It seems like a much older strip mall to me than 23. There was a previous shopping center at that location that probably dates to the 1960's urban renewal era when the Thurber Village high rises were built. I remember it being open when I lived in the area 1992-1994, with Big Bear and SuperX or Revco as anchors. Vaguely I remember the Big Bear being closed off for re-construction, and having to walk to the Kroghetto on High and King instead. There's a picture of the former plaza at: http://columbusneighborhoods.org/story/big-bear-777-neil-ave-thurber-village/ Thanks for the info on the true age of the Thurber Village shopping center. It looks like Business First got the age of the shopping center and the renovation date of the Giant Eagle store within the shopping center mixed up!
January 9, 20178 yr By the looks of the pictures, the old Big Bear was at the south end of the plaza while the GE (built by Big Bear) is at the north end.
January 9, 20178 yr By the looks of the pictures, the old Big Bear was at the south end of the plaza while the GE (built by Big Bear) is at the north end. Just checked 777 Neil Avenue on historicaerials.com and that's correct. Also, the original plaza wasn't there in in 1957, but appears in the 1963 aerial photo. The original plaza is still there in the 1994 aerial as well, but then the new plaza is seen after that.
January 9, 20178 yr By the looks of the pictures, the old Big Bear was at the south end of the plaza while the GE (built by Big Bear) is at the north end. Just checked 777 Neil Avenue on historicaerials.com and that's correct. Also, the original plaza wasn't there in in 1957, but appears in the 1963 aerial photo. The original plaza is still there in the 1994 aerial as well, but then the new plaza is seen after that. I love that website. I use it all the time in helping to determine the fate of historic buildings for my pages.
February 9, 20178 yr Kaufman Development revises plans for 9-story Short North project Kaufman Development has a new vision for its large mixed-use development at High Street and Second Avenue in the Short North, the result of tweaks to architecture and density over more than six months of planning. The Columbus developer will go before the Victorian Village Commission on Thursday with a proposal for a nine-story project, an increase from eight stories planned in October but still shorter than the 10 originally outlined in July. More below (including more renderings): http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2017/02/08/renderings-kaufman-development-revises-plans-for-9.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 9, 20178 yr So somehow this architecture got more eclectic... Trying to mix up the more traditional side with modern glass accents. It's getting a little "everything but the kitchen sink" but I love that they have stuck by their scale and stayed true to the eclectic personality and mix of the Short North, even off of High Street. I just hope whatever fills up the corner parcel next door can match this development.
February 9, 20178 yr More from CU: Latest Version of Victorian Village Proposal Heading to Commission Tonight Kaufman Development is headed back to the Victorian Village Commission tonight with its proposal for the IBEW site just off of High Street in the Short North. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/latest-version-of-victorian-village-proposal-heading-to-commission-tonight-bw1 "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 9, 20178 yr More from CU: Latest Version of Victorian Village Proposal Heading to Commission Tonight Kaufman Development is headed back to the Victorian Village Commission tonight with its proposal for the IBEW site just off of High Street in the Short North. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/latest-version-of-victorian-village-proposal-heading-to-commission-tonight-bw1 I'm all for density but just like the tower at North Market, it looks ridiculous and out of place. If it were on High Street I would have zero issue with it, hell if this were to be built in the aforementioned North Market development area I would have zero problem with it. Price is hands down the most narrow street in the Short North and it's ridiculous to build something like this on that street.
February 10, 20178 yr I'm all for density but just like the tower at North Market, it looks ridiculous and out of place. If it were on High Street I would have zero issue with it, hell if this were to be built in the aforementioned North Market development area I would have zero problem with it. Price is hands down the most narrow street in the Short North and it's ridiculous to build something like this on that street. I don't think streets need to be 4 lanes to handle an extra building, though on-street parking might need to go away in that area. It's also only a block off high street, which mirrors the large development 2 blocks south. 1 block north will be the larger white castle building. 1 block south has grandview mercantile going up. The whole area is positioning itself in the 3-12 story range and it will most definitely creep off of high street. If it's out of place now, it won't be in a few years.
March 16, 20178 yr Two Major Short North Developments Approved by Commission The Victorian Village Commission approved two major Short North developments at its March 9 meeting – Kaufman Development’s nine-story mixed-use project between West Second and Price Avenues, and the Pizzuti Companies’ two-building project on West First Avenue. The projects were approved with conditions, meaning that both developers will have to return to the commission for a final sign-off. With the yes-votes on the overall massing and layout, though, the projects will now start to move forward. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/two-major-short-north-developments-approved-by-commission-bw1
April 4, 20178 yr Project Update: Hubbard Park Place It’s hard to miss the large building taking shape at the southeast corner of West Hubbard Avenue and Park Street in the Short North. The seven story mixed-use development — dubbed Hubbard Park Place — was first brought to the Victorian Village Commission in late 2013 by the Wood Companies and Schiff Capital Group. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/project-update-hubbard-park-place-bw1 Hubbard Park Place construction is going vertical. March 2017 photo of the construction site at Hubbard & Park from http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-short-north-university-district-more
April 5, 20178 yr More from CU: Latest Version of Victorian Village Proposal Heading to Commission Tonight Kaufman Development is headed back to the Victorian Village Commission tonight with its proposal for the IBEW site just off of High Street in the Short North. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/latest-version-of-victorian-village-proposal-heading-to-commission-tonight-bw1 I think the new version of this is so ugly. The previous version was better. I'm getting really tired of the ultra-gaudy faux victorian mid-rise. It's barely palatable as a low-rise structure, but when you design a larger structure with such gaudy building faces it just looks ridiculous. A lot of this looks like it belongs in a circus, like a fake storefront for the whack-a-mole stand. It's also really really awkward to blend new with this gaudy crap. On the flip side, I thought that the big modern addition dwarfing the IBEW was really cool and almost looked like they belong together. That's bc one is an authentic historic building while the other is an authentic new build in a neighborhood where that happens. There just aren't enough rich old baby boomer grannies in Columbus to fill all of these faux victorian condo units.
April 6, 20178 yr The two-building residential project built on the former Doctors Hospital parking lot along Dennison Avenue between Second Avenue and Third/Starr Avenue was completed last late year. Here is a before/after of the parking lot along Dennison: Truberry on Second Condos -- 12-unit condo building at Second & Dennison: https://borror.com/project/development/truberry-on-second/ The Jerome Apartments -- 54-unit apartment building at Third & Dennison: http://www.thejeromecolumbus.com/
April 6, 20178 yr ^^Those look really good. They look like 'quality' and almost look like renders. More of this is needed, and in more places than just the Short North(and close environs.) Columbus can really get it right with some of these developments.
April 6, 20178 yr As someone not too familiar with Columbus (moved here last year) can I get a link to the street view or google map?
April 6, 20178 yr As someone not too familiar with Columbus (moved here last year) can I get a link to the street view or google map? Here you go https://goo.gl/maps/DSrUsRrRNsy
May 3, 20178 yr Took a walk around Hubbard Park Place today. The office portion of the building is about half way to its final height. Won't be long before the townhouses along Park and Hubbard begin to rise. Along Park St. Hubbard and Wall St. Wall St.
July 12, 20177 yr The townhomes along Park of Hubbard Park Place are beginning to be framed. The office tower is topped out.
September 8, 20177 yr Some construction updates on Hubbard Park Place from CU: July 31, 2017 posted view of Hubbard Park Place from the corner of Hubbard Avenue and Park Street - http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-the-short-north-july-2017 Sept. 7, 2017 posted view of Hubbard Park Place from the corner of Hubbard Avenue and Park Street - http://www.columbusunderground.com/high-street-construction-projects-dominate-short-north-and-university-district Sept. 7, 2017 posted view of Hubbard Park Place from the corner of Hubbard Avenue and Wall Street (mid-block alley) - http://www.columbusunderground.com/high-street-construction-projects-dominate-short-north-and-university-district
October 2, 20177 yr Developers behind Manhattan-inspired High Street project start tenant search The stairways were installed at the Hubbard Park Place in the Short North last week. This week, developers are starting to look for tenants. With 101 apartments and 12,000 square feet of office space, they aim to fill an eye-catching seven-story development – one of the taller new buildings in the neighborhood. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2017/10/02/developers-behind-manhattan-inspired-high-street.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 29, 20177 yr Took a walk during lunch today. I like the scale of this project along Hubbard and Park pictured below. Scaffolding was being delivered so I imagine we'll begin to see the finish materials pretty soon.
November 30, 20177 yr Took a walk during lunch today. I like the scale of this project along Hubbard and Park pictured below. Scaffolding was being delivered so I imagine we'll begin to see the finish materials pretty soon. I absolutely HATED this when it was proposed, mainly because of the scale. Now that the structure itself is complete, I have to eat crow because I like it :).
December 14, 20177 yr Kaufman Development proposal for the IBEW site is heading back to the Victorian Village Commission for yet another design revision. Previous designs shown earlier in this thread at https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3470.msg812799.html#msg812799 and https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3470.msg839569.html#msg839569: http://www.columbusunderground.com/design-changes-for-nine-story-development-to-be-brought-to-commission
December 14, 20177 yr Kaufman Development proposal for the IBEW site is heading back to the Victorian Village Commission for yet another design revision. Previous designs shown earlier in this thread at https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3470.msg812799.html#msg812799 and https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3470.msg839569.html#msg839569: http://www.columbusunderground.com/design-changes-for-nine-story-development-to-be-brought-to-commission This is a VAST improvement on the street level and much more fitting for the neighborhood.
December 14, 20177 yr I think I preferred the very front of the building in the initial plan, but overall I definitely prefer this update. It fits with neighborhood much better. The initial plan would have been much better for the River South district downtown.
February 26, 20187 yr I took a walk around Hubbard Park Place today. Crews are starting to install exterior finishes. It will be interesting to see how it all comes together. From the park. The tile looks nice. You can catch a glimpse of the brick veneer from Park St. View from High St.
February 27, 20187 yr Kaufman Development proposal for the IBEW site is heading back to the Victorian Village Commission for yet another design revision. Previous designs shown earlier in this thread at https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3470.msg812799.html#msg812799 and https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3470.msg839569.html#msg839569: http://www.columbusunderground.com/design-changes-for-nine-story-development-to-be-brought-to-commission The latest I read for this is that it's up to 10 stories, at least in the latest commission notes.
February 27, 20187 yr Hubbard Park Place is going to be a great addition for that corner. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 6, 20187 yr Kaufman Development has submitted an updated proposal for the IBEW site which is in the residential portion of the neighborhood between Price and 2nd near but not on High St. The proposal appears to provide adequate parking and preserves a good portion of the original IBEW buildings. However, the massing and height are substantial and will dramatically impact the residential portion of the neighborhood including several single family homes that abut the development. The tallest part of the project will be 180 ft (14 stories) making it by far the tallest structure in the Short North. For comparison: 711 N. High (under construction) = 144.8 feet Bollinger Tower = 142.04 feet The Jackson = 110 feet White Castle = 103.6 feet Hubbard Park Place = 84 feet The Victorian Village Commission will consider this proposal at their meeting on Thursday April 12th, 6 pm at the new Michael Coleman Government Center, 111 N Front St.
April 6, 20187 yr ^ Wow! I think this is going to be very controversial, but I'm personally a fan based on what I can see here. The height is definitely going to be a huge issue for some people I have to imagine. Also, where did you get those heights for all of the other buildings?
April 6, 20187 yr ^ Wow! I think this is going to be very controversial, but I'm personally a fan based on what I can see here. The height is definitely going to be a huge issue for some people I have to imagine. Also, where did you get those heights for all of the other buildings? As a resident of the neighborhood, I follow the Short North Civic Association FB page. These were quoted there...
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