February 13, 20214 yr I don't think that's necessary, it's easy enough to get around as it is. No need to induce more traffic.
April 2, 20214 yr Clintonville Area Commission election: Three districts up for vote attract one candidate each Jim Fischer - ThisWeek - Mar. 21, 2021 "Only one candidate has filed petitions with the Clintonville Area Commission in each of the three districts set to elect commission representatives in 2021. “The CAC has been looking for candidates all along and write-in candidates are welcome,” said Ann Henkener, election committee chair. “The deadline for submitting a candidate packet for write-in candidates is (April 2).” Henkener added that the three candidate packets returned were the only ones picked up, and that all three races will be uncontested unless write-in candidates are received by April 2."
April 13, 20214 yr On 1/16/2018 at 4:15 PM, Columbo said: A surprisingly decent proposal for the Patrick J's site at 2711-2725 N. High Street. This site spans the Old North neighborhood to the south and the Clintonville neighborhood to the north. According to the linked article below, "The site spans Glen Echo Creek, which flows through a tunnel that passes under the Tim Horton’s parking lot, High Street, and the former White Castle parcel. The proposed buildings are all situated to the south of that tunnel, while a parking lot serving the project sits to the north. Because Glen Echo Creek serves as the boundary between the neighborhoods, none of the proposed buildings will need to go before the Clintonville Area Commission." The project does require University District approvals and cleared its first hurdle when the zoning committee of the University Area Commission signed off on the required variances. The next step is a conceptual review by the University Impact District Review Board (UIDRB) on Thursday: http://www.columbusunderground.com/proposal-submitted-for-former-patrick-jswhite-castle-site-bw1 Unfortunately, it appears that this project is not happening: Clintonville area mixed-use development abandoned, land put back on the market By Tristan Navera – Staff reporter, Columbus Business First A plan to redevelop the old Patrick J's site in the Clintonville area is dead. Borror bought the 1.2-acre property at 2725 N. High Street in 2016, then demolished the bar and a White Castle restaurant on site and planned to build a mixed-use development. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/04/13/clintonville-development-cancelled-put-up-for-sale.html Such a shame. As was mentioned previously, it was a good-looking proposal and really would have added a lot to this stretch of High St. One can only hope another developer comes by with the means to construct a similar project.
April 13, 20214 yr 48 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: Hopefully whoever buys it proposes something even better. Yeah that project was okay, but I think it could have been a little bit better.
April 14, 20214 yr 23 hours ago, jonoh81 said: Hopefully whoever buys it proposes something even better. Especially since this development was designed so it would not need Clintonville approval. Something even taller and denser that would also be built on the southern part of the parcel would be great.
April 23, 20214 yr Updated: City Decides on Plan for Clintonville Bike Bridges Brent Warren - ColumbusUnderground - Apr. 23, 2021 "The Columbus Recreation and Parks Department announced today that it had selected Alternative 2 (as shown above) to complete the Olentangy Trail in Clintonville." More details on the Olentangy Trail Completion: https://www.columbus.gov/recreationandparks/trails/Olentangy-Trail/
May 27, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: At least it's street front? Ha that’s the same thing I said when I saw it. That whole intersection is such trash. Edited May 27, 20214 yr by VintageLife
June 22, 20213 yr Two Proposals Would Bring More Apartments to Clintonville Brent Warren - Columbus Underground - June 22, 2021 "The zoning committee of the Clintonville Area Commission will hear two proposals this week that would bring new apartments to the neighborhood. A five-story, 43-unit apartment building has been proposed for the used car lot at 3021 N. High St., near Weber Road. The lot was purchased last year by Brian Higgins, of Arch City Development. ... The second case on the zoning committee agenda is essentially an amendment to a previously-approved project. The Ave, a 301-unit apartment complex built on the site of the former Dixie International warehouse at 3632 Indianola Ave., opened in 2019. The plan for the project has always been to fill in the front of the site – the portion that sits closer to Indianola – with a three-story, mixed-use building and a one-story, stand-alone restaurant."
June 22, 20213 yr 31 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said: Two Proposals Would Bring More Apartments to Clintonville Brent Warren - Columbus Underground - June 22, 2021 "The zoning committee of the Clintonville Area Commission will hear two proposals this week that would bring new apartments to the neighborhood. A five-story, 43-unit apartment building has been proposed for the used car lot at 3021 N. High St., near Weber Road. The lot was purchased last year by Brian Higgins, of Arch City Development. ... The second case on the zoning committee agenda is essentially an amendment to a previously-approved project. The Ave, a 301-unit apartment complex built on the site of the former Dixie International warehouse at 3632 Indianola Ave., opened in 2019. The plan for the project has always been to fill in the front of the site – the portion that sits closer to Indianola – with a three-story, mixed-use building and a one-story, stand-alone restaurant." Hopefully it gets approved, but that area needs more retail/restaurant and would be awesome right there. I’m kind of sad it doesn’t have that, unless I missed it. Hopefully they can get something 5 stories approved, even without retail/restaurant space. Hopefully there isn’t any pushback on the indianola project. That area will look great with a 3 story building along the sidewalk, and could hopefully push further development all the way up to Morse. Edited June 22, 20213 yr by VintageLife
June 22, 20213 yr 35 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said: Two Proposals Would Bring More Apartments to Clintonville Brent Warren - Columbus Underground - June 22, 2021 "The zoning committee of the Clintonville Area Commission will hear two proposals this week that would bring new apartments to the neighborhood. A five-story, 43-unit apartment building has been proposed for the used car lot at 3021 N. High St., near Weber Road. The lot was purchased last year by Brian Higgins, of Arch City Development. ... The second case on the zoning committee agenda is essentially an amendment to a previously-approved project. The Ave, a 301-unit apartment complex built on the site of the former Dixie International warehouse at 3632 Indianola Ave., opened in 2019. The plan for the project has always been to fill in the front of the site – the portion that sits closer to Indianola – with a three-story, mixed-use building and a one-story, stand-alone restaurant." Well, this should be entertaining on the Clintonville Discussion Forum on FB.
June 22, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Well, this should be entertaining on the Clintonville Discussion Forum on FB. Please keep us informed! Five whole floors...in Clintonville? The pitchforks and torches will be out!
June 24, 20213 yr Please keep us informed! Five whole floors...in Clintonville? The pitchforks and torches will be out!To be fair, they’ll need the torches for light. With a towering 5 story monstrosity, Clintonvillians will never see the sun again. Also, very glad to hear that street front component of the Dixie building is still alive. I was worried they’d dropped it. Would be amazing to block the view of that parking lot…
June 25, 20213 yr Weber and High renderings. The usual complaints - too tall, ugly box, traffic, destruction of green space along Walhalla Creek. The last one puzzles me - The creek goes into a pipe east of High St and the "green space" are the trees growing on the private property. The renderings below are preliminary but it is a typical elevated slab with 4 floors of stick built apartments. This type of construction gets complaints all across the country and I tend to agree. There are legit concerns over residential on the first floor and the deadening effect it has on a commercial street. The site plan does indicate future retail. Filling retail is tough right now in our emerging post-Covid world. I don't think it's bad. The height doesn't bother me - High St. is 7 lanes wide here so it will help reduced the perceived scale of the street. A few renderings: https://mcusercontent.com/3d4bdc2e75c185cac799714d1/files/690b4259-b144-2d19-f6da-ebace188823c/3021_N_High_Conceptual_2021_06_18a_.pdf?fbclid=IwAR30UX259AYqPQrg8uSSWfBpevwWiA0B9KJ_nfqDnB3V6LiXAzD505fCOTs Edited June 25, 20213 yr by Pablo
June 25, 20213 yr 25 minutes ago, Pablo said: Weber and High renderings. The usual complaints - too tall, ugly box, traffic, destruction of green space along Walhalla Creek. The last one puzzles me - The creek goes into a pipe east of High St and the "green space" are the trees growing on the private property. The renderings below are preliminary but it is a typical elevated slab with 4 floors of stick built apartments. This type of construction gets complaints all across the country and I tend to agree. There are legit concerns over residential on the first floor and the deadening effect it has on a commercial street. The site plan does indicate future retail. Filling retail is tough right now in our emerging post-Covid world. I don't think it's bad. The height doesn't bother me - High St. is 7 lanes wide here so it will help reduced the perceived scale of the street. A few renderings: https://mcusercontent.com/3d4bdc2e75c185cac799714d1/files/690b4259-b144-2d19-f6da-ebace188823c/3021_N_High_Conceptual_2021_06_18a_.pdf?fbclid=IwAR30UX259AYqPQrg8uSSWfBpevwWiA0B9KJ_nfqDnB3V6LiXAzD505fCOTs I give this a 1.2% chance of passing as presented. Not really a fan of the first floor residential, but if there is space for future retail/commercial space, that shouldn’t be horrible.
July 26, 20213 yr This should be interesting - zoning hearing this Wednesday to allow a Chick-fil-A and a Valvoline instant oil change place on the former TeeJaye's site. Looks like they are keeping the sign with modifications.
July 26, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, Pablo said: This should be interesting - zoning hearing this Wednesday to allow a Chick-fil-A and a Valvoline instant oil change place on the former TeeJaye's site. Looks like they are keeping the sign with modifications. Clintonville is a lost cause. Such suburban development.
July 26, 20213 yr 1 minute ago, TH3BUDDHA said: Clintonville is a lost cause. Such suburban development. Too be fair, this outside of Clintonville proper and within the outparcel hell between Morse and Worthington. If it was truly suburban the drive would circle the building.
August 2, 20213 yr On 7/26/2021 at 12:29 PM, Pablo said: Too be fair, this outside of Clintonville proper and within the outparcel hell between Morse and Worthington. If it was truly suburban the drive would circle the building. That is very true. At least Chick Fil A had the decency to bring the building to the corner (although this is not a new layout for them). And no curb cuts onto Morse at least...?
August 2, 20213 yr I bet the Valvoline slides right through unopposed. Is it under the Beechwold umbrella? Edited August 2, 20213 yr by GCrites80s
August 31, 20213 yr Over the last week I have noticed a good amount of commotion inside the old Clintonville Outfitters store. There also appears to be a "Sold" sign hung on the side of the building. I checked the auditor's website and it doesn't have anything posted yet. Does anyone have the inside scoop on this one? Anyone who lives nearby can attest to how much of an eyesore this has become over the last couple years since they closed. I'm bummed the plans for it to turn into a brewery fell through last year due to COVID.
August 31, 20213 yr 33 minutes ago, Mogilny89 said: Over the last week I have noticed a good amount of commotion inside the old Clintonville Outfitters store. There also appears to be a "Sold" sign hung on the side of the building. I checked the auditor's website and it doesn't have anything posted yet. Does anyone have the inside scoop on this one? Anyone who lives nearby can attest to how much of an eyesore this has become over the last couple years since they closed. I'm bummed the plans for it to turn into a brewery fell through last year due to COVID. It did sell, I’m not sure who bought it, but I saw on the realtors Instagram that it had finally sold. Here’s hoping it is turned into something useful.
September 2, 20213 yr On 8/31/2021 at 10:02 AM, VintageLife said: It did sell, I’m not sure who bought it, but I saw on the realtors Instagram that it had finally sold. Here’s hoping it is turned into something useful. There is a lot of poorly utilized space right around there. Would be nice to see someone do something interesting with one of the underutilized lots/buildings right around that area of High Street.
September 2, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, TIm said: There is a lot of poorly utilized space right around there. Would be nice to see someone do something interesting with one of the underutilized lots/buildings right around that area of High Street. Someone wanted to turn it into a brewery/restaurant, but I think clintonville shot it down, because it didn’t have enough parking.
September 2, 20213 yr 38 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Someone wanted to turn it into a brewery/restaurant, but I think clintonville shot it down, because it didn’t have enough parking. It's Clintonville, there isn't parking anywhere! If they keep citing parking as a barrier to development, these crappy old buildings are just going to stay crappy old buildings. Pretty sure that isn't the vibe Clintonville is going for either.
September 2, 20213 yr 44 minutes ago, TIm said: It's Clintonville, there isn't parking anywhere! If they keep citing parking as a barrier to development, these crappy old buildings are just going to stay crappy old buildings. Pretty sure that isn't the vibe Clintonville is going for either. It also doesn’t really need much parking, it’s a pretty easy walk for a huge amount of population.
September 23, 20213 yr On 7/26/2021 at 1:23 PM, Pablo said: This should be interesting - zoning hearing this Wednesday to allow a Chick-fil-A and a Valvoline instant oil change place on the former TeeJaye's site. Looks like they are keeping the sign with modifications. https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/communities/clintonville/2021/09/16/clintonville-chick-fil-a-sign-to-have-led-lighting-mobile-text/8319167002/ According to the above linked ThisWeek Community News article, the Chick-fil-A final hearing for the rezoning of 4910 N. High Street has not been scheduled with the Columbus Development Commission yet. But Chick-fil-A does have final plans for the iconic 35-foot curved arrow sign now. The sign will be preserved with only minor changes, such as LED lighting replacing the existing neon lighting:
September 23, 20213 yr ^They kept the sign because todays sign code wouldn't allow such a large sign. It's a win-win for all parties, I guess.
September 28, 20213 yr On 8/31/2021 at 9:28 AM, Mogilny89 said: Over the last week I have noticed a good amount of commotion inside the old Clintonville Outfitters store. There also appears to be a "Sold" sign hung on the side of the building. I checked the auditor's website and it doesn't have anything posted yet. Does anyone have the inside scoop on this one? Anyone who lives nearby can attest to how much of an eyesore this has become over the last couple years since they closed. I'm bummed the plans for it to turn into a brewery fell through last year due to COVID. Plans filed with the city show what appear to be a cloud/ghost kitchen facility proposed for the old Clintonville Outfitters store. More information from The Dispatch: https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/communities/clintonville/2021/09/24/columbus-clintonville-outfitters-site-could-be-future-venue-for-cloud-kitchen/5843548001/
September 28, 20213 yr 22 minutes ago, .justin said: Plans filed with the city show what appear to be a cloud/ghost kitchen facility proposed for the old Clintonville Outfitters store. More information from The Dispatch: https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/communities/clintonville/2021/09/24/columbus-clintonville-outfitters-site-could-be-future-venue-for-cloud-kitchen/5843548001/ Well that sucks.
September 28, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Well that sucks. It sure as hell beats an ugly old empty building covered in graffiti. Any use is better than no use. There is also a major need for places like this as well. Food trucks, food carts and small food businesses often need commissary space and this will certainly fill a need in the community.
September 28, 20213 yr On 9/28/2021 at 10:59 AM, TIm said: It sure as hell beats an ugly old empty building covered in graffiti. Any use is better than no use. There is also a major need for places like this as well. Food trucks, food carts and small food businesses often need commissary space and this will certainly fill a need in the community. You’re not wrong. I just think ghost kitchens have no business being on the main stretch through the city. They are great when they are off the main path. Just which it was something that would add to the walkability in the area. Edited September 30, 20213 yr by VintageLife
September 28, 20213 yr 9 minutes ago, VintageLife said: You’re not wrong. I just think ghost kitchen have no business being on the main stretch through the city. They are great when they are off the main path. Just which it was something that would add to the walkability in the area. Yeah I hear that, would be nice if it was another cool place you can walk into. I would think of this more as a commissary than a ghost kitchen though even though they said ghost kitchen. Based on the copied layout it just is a commissary and you can operate a ghost kitchen out of a commissary if you want or use it for other things. Those garage bay doors are going to be incredibly useful for food trucks and caterers operating or doing prep work out of this space. Have to imagine that was a major selling point when deciding the use of the space. I'm glad it's going to be used for something the city is lacking in as opposed to another okay brewery or something. Not everybody likes alcohol, but everyone likes food! Edited September 28, 20213 yr by TIm
September 28, 20213 yr Even before the virus, Universal Couchlock was hurting good urbanism pretty severely. Ghost kitchens are a symptom of Couchlock even if not all the food is going to delivery.
September 28, 20213 yr 3 hours ago, GCrites80s said: Even before the virus, Universal Couchlock was hurting good urbanism pretty severely. Ghost kitchens are a symptom of Couchlock even if not all the food is going to delivery. I wouldn't say that really. They have been a thing for a minute just due to the changing nature of the food business shifting more towards fast casual and delivery, covid was just a great opportunity for them to thrive. Some really awesome places go their start operating out of a ghost kitchen. The overhead needed to start a food business is absolutely insane all so you can make $0.14 per item you sell. It's really hard to build capital as a fledgeling food business with those razor thing margins when you also have to worry about rent, utilities and facility upkeep on top of ordering ingredients, supplies and paying for employees. Not to mention the extra food waste that goes with starting up as you start to figure things out. The ghost kitchen model gives people with a good idea an opportunity to test it out without needing to invest potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars into something they aren't sure will even work (commercial kitchen equipment is insanely expensive!). Gives people an opportunity to give it a shot without needing to take out a huge loan or find investors. If it doesn't work, you're out a few months of renting a commissary/ghost kitchen and whatever you spent on supplies and if it does work you can generate solid profits without a ton of overhead and then reinvest those profits into your business. It's honestly a brilliant idea and doesn't make the food market cornered by your Cameron Mitchell types who have loads of cash to start new food ventures. I'm all for this development. Yes you can argue against this particular thing going in this particular building, but the place just looks perfectly equipped for this type of use. You're going to see this place filled up with Columbus/Central Ohio small businesses and that's a great thing as far as I'm concerned. And not to mention in the article it says they are intending to have a walk up counter inside where you can pick food up from any of the businesses within offering that service. I think that's a nice added feature, especially if you have picky eaters. Can be a one stop shop and order off 10 menus and only need to go pick it up at one place!
September 28, 20213 yr Good explanation. I didn't really think about them being "incubators" as much.
September 28, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: Good explanation. I didn't really think about them being "incubators" as much. There are certainly plenty of examples of local small businesses getting their starts in these types of kitchens, but there have also been plenty of crappy chain places operating under different names as a ghost kitchen. This spot should be completely filled up with locals though!
September 28, 20213 yr ^The infamous Chuck E. Cheese operating as Pasqually's during lockdown phenomenon. Of course that was still in their own facilities though. People were like "When did we get a new pizza place in town?"
October 7, 20213 yr This doesn’t look too bad for Clintonville. Vision Development to build mixed-use project in front of The Ave apartments in Clintonville “Vision Development is adding a mixed-use project in front of The Ave apartments in Clintonville. Brent Wrightsel, founder and president of Vision Development, said his company will build a restaurant, put up an office/retail building and construct a 30-unit residential building along Indianola Avenue, just north of Indianola Plaza. The one-story office/retail building will have two spaces, each about 1,300 square feet. These new locations for the commercial space will allow for outdoor dining and better street appeal, according to documents provided to the city. Wrightsel said these buildings will be brick with large glass windows. He said Vision Development is working out whether the residential units at 3632 Indianola Ave. will be condos or apartments. He said Vision hopes to break ground in the first quarter of 2022. Plans still need approval before Vision can start building. The company's property management arm would manage this site as well.“ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/10/07/the-avenue-clintonville.html
October 7, 20213 yr 26 minutes ago, amped91 said: This doesn’t look too bad for Clintonville. Vision Development to build mixed-use project in front of The Ave apartments in Clintonville “Vision Development is adding a mixed-use project in front of The Ave apartments in Clintonville. Brent Wrightsel, founder and president of Vision Development, said his company will build a restaurant, put up an office/retail building and construct a 30-unit residential building along Indianola Avenue, just north of Indianola Plaza. The one-story office/retail building will have two spaces, each about 1,300 square feet. These new locations for the commercial space will allow for outdoor dining and better street appeal, according to documents provided to the city. Wrightsel said these buildings will be brick with large glass windows. He said Vision Development is working out whether the residential units at 3632 Indianola Ave. will be condos or apartments. He said Vision hopes to break ground in the first quarter of 2022. Plans still need approval before Vision can start building. The company's property management arm would manage this site as well.“ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/10/07/the-avenue-clintonville.html Would love for BRT along Indianola eventually. Projects like this, is what is needed for that to happen. Hopefully there will be more development like this farther north on Indianola as well.
October 7, 20213 yr 5 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Would love for BRT along Indianola eventually. Projects like this, is what is needed for that to happen. Hopefully there will be more development like this farther north on Indianola as well. Yes. I just hope this too doesn’t get killed by the approval committees.
October 7, 20213 yr 40 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Would love for BRT along Indianola eventually. Projects like this, is what is needed for that to happen. Hopefully there will be more development like this farther north on Indianola as well. There is a ton of room to do cool things north of this parcel, you sure got that right. Starts to feel very suburban very quickly, hopefully can see some new development up that way.
October 7, 20213 yr 38 minutes ago, TIm said: There is a ton of room to do cool things north of this parcel, you sure got that right. Starts to feel very suburban very quickly, hopefully can see some new development up that way. Even with the 301 apartments in The Ave, it didn’t really seem to add to traffic much either.
October 7, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, TIm said: There is a ton of room to do cool things north of this parcel, you sure got that right. Starts to feel very suburban very quickly, hopefully can see some new development up that way. Agreed, with Weiland's Market and Planet Fitness there, along with a well-used bike lane, this sliver of Indianola between E. Cooke and E. N. Broadway is screaming for more dense, walkable development.
October 7, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: Even with the 301 apartments in The Ave, it didn’t really seem to add to traffic much either. It really didn't at all. I'd call that the "quiet" part of Clintonville.
October 7, 20213 yr I just wish the restaurant was on the ground floor of a 3-4 story rather than its own building.
October 26, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: Achievement Unlocked: Add Another Drive-Thru to Clintonville It actually doesn’t appear to have a drive-thru so that’s good at least.
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