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    Four-Story Building Proposed for Clintonville Site   A revised development proposal for a used car lot on High Street is set to be heard by the zoning committee of the Clintonville Area Comm

  • From the article:   “It was 100% driven by the commission,” Higgins said, when asked about the project’s reduction in size. “They made it very clear that they would not support a five-story

  • There are so many spots on literally every little side street right in that area. People are just so afraid of walking for whatever reason. When I have friends visit who don't live in the city I want

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5 hours ago, VintageLife said:

It also seems crazy that what appears to be a patio is being built entirely out of steel. Is that normal thing, it seems super excessive? 

 

Given trends in Columbus, maybe they're afraid a car will go flying into the patio space?

32 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Snagged a picture of it a bit ago. 
 

 

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Looks a lot better, definitely a step in the right direction for that intersection. That's especially after so much suburbanization of the area. Would make a great place for Union 2.0!

24 minutes ago, CMHOhio said:

 

Given trends in Columbus, maybe they're afraid a car will go flying into the patio space?

 

Looks a lot better, definitely a step in the right direction for that intersection. That's especially after so much suburbanization of the area. Would make a great place for Union 2.0!

It will probably be a Cameron Mitchell restaurant, seems what would fit into clintonville. 
 

it does look a lot better and would be even better if the 4 story on the other side had gotten approved. I think an addition of parking over retail in the parking lot would make this even better, but that won’t happen. 

It would be funny if THIS is where the Smith & Wollensky finally ends up at.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Arch City Development sells Clintonville site, but apartments still planned.

 

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Arch City Development has sold the property at 3021 N. High St. in Clintonville where it had planned a five-story building with 45 apartments.

But the new owner also bought the plans for the project and intends to push it forward, Arch City's Brian Higgins told me.

TDA Family LLC brought the property in November for $1 million. The buyer was not immediately available for comment....

 

....Developers all over Central Ohio say high interest rates and expensive land and materials have combined to make it tough to get projects off the ground. Nationally, commercial construction starts are down 14%, according to Dodge Construction Network.

 

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16 hours ago, VintageLife said:

Great news, hopefully it starts soon and they don’t try to do away with the commercial space. 

This needs to happen with the ground floor commercial. The nut jobs of this neighborhood I've chosen to live in need to realize dense developments along High are good for everyone who lives here. Plus selfishly this is basically at the end of my street and more stuff to walk to is great.

Would this be for a possible redevelopment of the existing building? 
 

 

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5 hours ago, VintageLife said:

Would this be for a possible redevelopment of the existing building? 
 

 

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"BZA23-127 Proposal: To reorient parking within a parking lot after the termination of a mutual parking agreement. Variance(s) from 3312.49 – Minimum numbers of parking spaces required – To reduce the number of required parking spaces from 276 to 257. 3321.01 - Dumpster area - To allow the first three dumpsters in the southwest corner of the parcel to remain unscreened."

^^It's just a parking lot redesign.

46 minutes ago, Pablo said:

^^It's just a parking lot redesign.

Yeah I kind of figured, but one can always hope! Ha

Sadly it's the biggest new development news in Clintonville in months haha.

Here’s a little more info on the person that bought the property and plans at Weber and High. It also mentions he is in talks with a short north property, would love if it is the Garden property. 
 

The Punch List: This Central Ohio developer wants to buy more than just your land


A relatively new player in the Central Ohio commercial real estate scene is working to build a business buying shovel-ready development projects right off the shelf.

 

Ho also bought a Merion Village project site and project plans in 2022. The same architect stayed on for this project as well as the Clintonville project.

 

The 19 townhomes planned in Merion Village will range from 1,500 square feet to 2,600 square feet and two to three stories. The larger units will have rooftop patio access.

 

Ho has also bought properties at 172 Ohio Avenue and 1290 Rich St., which he said have also been rezoned for development. He is working on acquiring a Short North-area property, but declined to share that location.

^That's interesting, hopefully the project is successful. I'm hopeful the new zoning code will eliminate many of the hoops Arch City had to go through and create a more direct path to building something. 

  • 4 weeks later...

 

Quick one from High and Morse while I was stopped at the light

 

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4 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said:

 

Quick one from High and Morse while I was stopped at the light

 

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The only good thing about this is that they built it right at the sidewalk. 

10 hours ago, VintageLife said:

The only good thing about this is that they built it right at the sidewalk. 

They have to so they can accommodate 68 cars waiting in a line together on the property.

The office building at High and N Brodway has added an awkward digital time and temperature board. I appreciate the thought but think it's a little off. 

11 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

The office building at High and N Brodway has added an awkward digital time and temperature board. I appreciate the thought but think it's a little off. 

Yeah I noticed that, it looks out of place and I’m not really sure why it was added. Trying to appease the old people that will be upset by it being a restaurant? 

22 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

The office building at High and N Brodway has added an awkward digital time and temperature board. I appreciate the thought but think it's a little off. 

I like it! Was it necessary? No. Is it bad? Also no. I'm sure they'll use it to advertise or something once the place is actually open. Will probably cycle through things and then also show the weather like it currently is.

22 minutes ago, TIm said:

I like it! Was it necessary? No. Is it bad? Also no. I'm sure they'll use it to advertise or something once the place is actually open. Will probably cycle through things and then also show the weather like it currently is.

 

I like the concept. I just wish the commission had been more particular on aesthetic. Is just doesn't sit right. 

16 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 

I like the concept. I just wish the commission had been more particular on aesthetic. Is just doesn't sit right. 

This, it isn’t awful, it just doesn’t work with the building. 

The 20' elevator shaft sticking out the top of the building is what doesn't sit right with me. 

2 minutes ago, Whopper Jr said:

The 20' elevator shaft sticking out the top of the building is what doesn't sit right with me. 

That's actually screening for a cell tower.

Just now, Pablo said:

That's actually screening for a cell tower.

Well that is some fortress-like screening.

Let's start a rumor that it's infrastructure to make it twice as tall in the future just like the Hyatt at the Convention Center or Rhodes Tower. 

1 hour ago, DTCL11 said:

Let's start a rumor that it's infrastructure to make it twice as tall in the future just like the Hyatt at the Convention Center or Rhodes Tower. 

Well the Rhodes one is actually true! Late in the buildings construction they decided to chop a few floors off the top because the building was already $10 million over budget in the early 1970s, which was like 20% of the entire buildings original budget at the time.

11 minutes ago, TIm said:

Well the Rhodes one is actually true! Late in the buildings construction they decided to chop a few floors off the top because the building was already $10 million over budget in the early 1970s, which was like 20% of the entire buildings original budget at the time.

It’s crazy that it cost that much to build something that terrible. 

11 minutes ago, TIm said:

Well the Rhodes one is actually true! Late in the buildings construction they decided to chop a few floors off the top because the building was already $10 million over budget in the early 1970s, which was like 20% of the entire buildings original budget at the time.

 

Unless there is other information not publicly available. I went down a rabbit hole in 2022 and debunked that rumor 😉 TLDR, every publicly released version of the building, from announcement, to drawings, to the scale model on display before ground breaking is the exact building we have today. 

 

 

1 minute ago, VintageLife said:

It’s crazy that it cost that much to build something that terrible. 

It's a product of its time. Modernism and brutalism were popular for a bit and now they aren't so it's easy to look at it against today's popular designs and go "bad!".

11 minutes ago, TIm said:

It's a product of its time. Modernism and brutalism were popular for a bit and now they aren't so it's easy to look at it against today's popular designs and go "bad!".

Why so big though? Honestly why so big back then? Unnecessary…

7 hours ago, Pablo said:

That's actually screening for a cell tower.

Is it really? I'd rather look at a cell tower. 

 

I always thought it was elevator related. 

It showed up in 2017. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

It showed up in 2017. 

 

 

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Wow that poor building, that's awful. I had no idea 

  • 3 weeks later...

 

Somebody posted a pic on r/Columbus of the updated sign at Morse and High 

 

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I...don't...hate...it...

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  • 2 weeks later...

Does anyone know what this project is, or how to find out more detail? It’s the car sales lot across from weilands. I’m going to assume it’s nothing more than some minor changes but was curious. 
 

 

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25 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Does anyone know what this project is, or how to find out more detail? It’s the car sales lot across from weilands. I’m going to assume it’s nothing more than some minor changes but was curious. 
 

 

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I wonder if it's related to the graphics permit they pulled in January for replacing the faces on their sign. If it's not, I'd imagine it's something minor as you suggested, since they very recently went through the process of updating the sign. 

I'm new to posting on this forum and dumb question - where are you pulling the proposal screenshots from?

4 minutes ago, tunedupryan said:

I'm new to posting on this forum and dumb question - where are you pulling the proposal screenshots from?

 

The City of Columbus permit portal.

 

https://portal.columbus.gov/Permits/Default.aspx

21 hours ago, tunedupryan said:

I'm new to posting on this forum and dumb question - where are you pulling the proposal screenshots from?

No such thing as a dumb question if it helps you learn something or understand something my man!

  • 3 weeks later...
25 minutes ago, Pablo said:


I wonder if this project is about to begin construction. This weekend all the used cars in the lot were removed. 

God I hope so! 

I was also thinking the other day that clintonville needs to get ahead of the growth and start figuring out where to incorporate some parking garages like they have done in the short north. They love to complain about parking, so no better time to get on it than now. 

8 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I was also thinking the other day that clintonville needs to get ahead of the growth and start figuring out where to incorporate some parking garages like they have done in the short north. They love to complain about parking, so no better time to get on it than now. 

I'm not sure that's the answer (yet). There's plenty of on street parking despite resident's complaints. It's more about fighting the mindset that one needs to park right outside of their destination and not walk a few blocks. Shared parking is another solution - a restaurant could utilize a bank lot during non banking hours.

18 minutes ago, Pablo said:

I'm not sure that's the answer (yet). There's plenty of on street parking despite resident's complaints. It's more about fighting the mindset that one needs to park right outside of their destination and not walk a few blocks. Shared parking is another solution - a restaurant could utilize a bank lot during non banking hours.

The expectation of parking just outside the door is ingrained unfortunately.  I actually drove from one business to another in the same shopping center, Graceland, until a non-American pointed out how crazy that is.  In fairness, shopping center parking lots are hostile to pedestrians though.  

9 hours ago, Pablo said:


I wonder if this project is about to begin construction. This weekend all the used cars in the lot were removed. 

Don't get your hopes up, you can go back in this thread into last year and I probably have a few posts like "there are barely any cars, maybe it's starting soon!".

 

Although.... I did see it emptier than ever earlier this week. Haven't driven past in a few days since I've been sick but I'll try and check later this afternoon.

That car place just replaced their sign recently so... who knows lol

1 hour ago, OH_Really said:

The expectation of parking just outside the door is ingrained unfortunately.  I actually drove from one business to another in the same shopping center, Graceland, until a non-American pointed out how crazy that is.  In fairness, shopping center parking lots are hostile to pedestrians though.  

My wife and I do that at Graceland because walking is very hostile there, the same with carriage place off of bethel. Those spaces are exactly what is wrong with designing around cars. There is no reason we should be driving between Kroger and target, but it just doesn’t feel safe to walk most of the time. If it is nicer outside, we usually walk it more. 

2 hours ago, TIm said:

Don't get your hopes up, you can go back in this thread into last year and I probably have a few posts like "there are barely any cars, maybe it's starting soon!".

 

Although.... I did see it emptier than ever earlier this week. Haven't driven past in a few days since I've been sick but I'll try and check later this afternoon.

 

What is the price range of the cars they sell? If it's mostly under $10-15K they are going to sell out often.

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