Jump to content

Featured Replies

From ThisWeek Clintonville, 12/7/06:

 

 

ThisWeek Clintonville: Taking it to state level (11/30/06)

 

Legislators have until Dec. 19 to affect land sale

Thursday, December 7, 2006

By RANDY NAVAROLI

ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

Two area legislators say they could kill the controversial sale of property willed to The Ohio State University by pulling it from an omnibus bill being considered in the state legislature's current lame-duck session, which ends Dec. 19.  State Rep. Jim Hughes (R-Columbus) and state Sen. Steve Stivers (R-Columbus) are in a position to remove the sale of the property from the pending bill.

 

Read more at http://www.thisweeknews.com/index.php?sec=clintonville&story=sites/thisweeknews/120706/Clintonville/News/120706-News-274535.html

 

  • 3 weeks later...
  • Replies 826
  • Views 64.4k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Most Popular Posts

  • VintageLife
    VintageLife

    Four-Story Building Proposed for Clintonville Site   A revised development proposal for a used car lot on High Street is set to be heard by the zoning committee of the Clintonville Area Comm

  • From the article:   “It was 100% driven by the commission,” Higgins said, when asked about the project’s reduction in size. “They made it very clear that they would not support a five-story

  • There are so many spots on literally every little side street right in that area. People are just so afraid of walking for whatever reason. When I have friends visit who don't live in the city I want

Posted Images

From ThisWeek Clintonville, 12/21/06:

 

 

Legislators delay sale of Urban property

Thursday, December 21, 2006

By RANDY NAVAROLI

ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

Opponents of the proposed sale of a property willed to The Ohio State University are applauding the work of two area legislators whose efforts have bought them a little more time to convince university officials to preserve the site as it is.  State Sen. Steve Stivers (R-Upper Arlington) confirmed Monday (Dec. 18) that he and state Rep. Jim Hughes (R-22nd District) successfully removed the property at the corner of West Dominion Road and North High Street from a bundle of other properties the university is planning to sell.  The sale of the Clintonville property was originally included in the state's capital budget bill, which passed Tuesday (Dec. 19).

 

Read more at http://www.thisweeknews.com/index.php?sec=clintonville&story=sites/thisweeknews/122106/Clintonville/News/122106-News-282492.html

 

  • 1 month later...

From ThisWeek Clintonville, 1/4/07:

 

 

Corridor plan

One more session set on Indianola development

Thursday, January 4, 2007

By RANDY NAVAROLI

ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

City officials and several Clintonville civic organizations will hold at least one more public meeting early this year to explain how the Indianola Avenue Plan and the implementation of its attached overlays will guide future development along the corridor.  Representatives from the city's planning department, the Clintonville Area Commission, Clintonville Area Chamber of Commerce, and Clintonville Incorporated will be on hand to answer any questions area property owners may have about the plan and the overlays and their effect on zoning requirements along Indianola Avenue.

 

Read more at http://www.thisweeknews.com/index.php?sec=clintonville&story=sites/thisweeknews/010407/Clintonville/News/010407-News-286603.html

 

  • 2 weeks later...

From the 2/10/07 Dispatch:

 

 

Clintonville residents battle OSU, condo plans

Saturday, February 10, 2007

Mark Ferenchik

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

For months, Clintonville residents have fought a developer’s plan to incorporate two stone buildings along N. High Street into a condominium complex.  But before resolving the neighborhood’s concerns, property owner Ohio State University went to the lame-duck state legislature for permission to sell the buildings to the developer.

 

Read more at http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2007/02/10/20070210-D1-03.html

 

  • 2 weeks later...

From the 3/5/07 (OSU) Lantern:

 

 

Clintonville property debate continues

Commission passes resolution urging further talks with OSU

Travis Minnear

Issue date: 3/5/07 Section: Campus

 

The Clintonville Area Commission passed a resolution at its Thursday meeting urging Ohio State officials to discuss plans for two stone cottages previously owned by Mildred "Migg" Urban, who died in 2003 and willed the properties to OSU.

 

OSU is seeking approval from state lawmakers to sell the property to a private developer for a plan that would put new condominiums in the Clintonville community. The late Urban requested the larger cottage be preserved and used for visiting faculty of the Knowlton School of Architecture. Several Clintonville residents argued the university should live up to Urban's wishes.

 

Read more at http://www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2007/03/05/Campus/Clintonville.Property.Debate.Continues-2757463.shtml

From ThisWeek Clintonville, 3/8/07:

 

 

CAC formalizes opposition to OSU plan

Thursday, March 8, 2007

By RANDY NAVAROLI

ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

Clintonville Area Commissioners have reaffirmed their opposition to a plan to build condominiums on property willed to The Ohio State University by a longtime Clintonville resident and OSU graduate. The Commission unanimously adopted a resolution March 1 cementing its objection to plans to build a condominium complex on the site at the northwest corner of West Dominion Boulevard and North High Street. 

 

Read more at http://www.thisweeknews.com/?story=sites/thisweeknews/030807/Clintonville/News/030807-News-318118.html

 

  • 1 month later...

Hadler plans Indianola Plaza renovations

Business First of Columbus - 10:02 AM EDT Wednesday, April 11, 2007

 

The owner of Indianola Plaza in Clintonville is planning on giving the 42-year-old shopping center a makeover.  Hadler Cos., which owns and manages the plaza, said it plans to update the design of the development. The 76,000-square-foot plaza is anchored by Weiland's Gourmet Market and a thrift store run by Volunteers of America.

 

Columbus-based Ford and Associates Architects has redesigned the plaza and Hadler subsidiary Transamerica Building Co. will be in charge of renovations.  Hadler representatives were unavailable immediately to say when the renovation would begin.

 

Read more at http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2007/04/09/daily11.html?from_rss=1

  • 2 weeks later...

From ThisWeek Clintonville, 4/19/07:

 

Hadler plans to rehab Indianola Plaza

Thursday, April 19, 2007

By RANDY NAVAROLI

ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

Indianola Plaza will get a facelift in the coming months, according to Hadler Co. President George Hadler.  The 42-year-old shopping center, located at the intersection of Indianola Avenue and Arden Road, will get a new facade, and each of its six tenants will get a new sign.

 

"This center is thriving and is well-positioned in the community, but it's 40 years old," Hadler said. "We want to do our part to help Clintonville maintain its unique charm and aesthetic appeal."  Hadler said demolition related to the $400,000 renovation project will begin within the next two weeks.  He said it will take about six months to complete the work.

 

Hadler's father, the late William Hadler, spearheaded Indianola Plaza's development close to 40 years ago.  The 76,000 square foot center included an A&P and Buckeye Mart when it opened in 1965.  Today it houses a number of tenants, including Weinland's Gourmet Market , a state liquor store, a Volunteers of America thrift store, Planet Fitness, Dante's Pizza, Reedman's Bookstore, and Hair Concepts.

 

MORE: http://www.thisweeknews.com/?story=sites/thisweeknews/041907/Clintonville/News/041907-News-340422.html

  • 3 weeks later...

From the Booster, 5/9/07:

 

Four-story condos fall short of CAC approval

Three members voted to allow the extra story.

By KATHLEEN L. RADCLIFF

 

It was a close vote, but in the end the Clintonville Area Commissioners said "no" to 45-foot-high condos.  The vote came Thursday during the CAC's monthly meeting, when members were asked to approve a recommendation for a height variance that would allow a proposed condominium project at 10 E. Weber Road to top off at 45 feet rather than the normal limit of 35 feet.

 

Meyers-Welsh architect Bhakti Bania said, based on a completed elevation study, "There are a lot of buildings that are in that range."  Features of the proposal would include a pedestrian-friendly storefront on the first floor with one or two commercial tenants and space for a possible lobby or workout facility.

 

The second floor would consist of a parking level, with access from the alley, Bania said.  Two townhouses would overlook the Wahalla Ravine.  The third and fourth floors would consist of residential space.

 

MORE: http://www.snponline.com/NEWS5-9/5-9_bocondos.html

 

  • 4 weeks later...

From the 6/6/07 Booster:

 

Ground, glass to be broken

By KATHLEEN L. RADCLIFF

 

Two residents will be wielding rocks rather than shovels Tuesday when a groundbreaking officially kicks off renovation work at the Whetstone Recreation Center, 3923 N. High St.  Todd Lucas and Clintonville Farmers' Market Manager Laura Zimmerman will be allowed to throw rocks through the rec center's old windows.  They won the right by bidding in a silent auction held during the Clintonville Area Chamber of Commerce's awards dinner March 2.

 

More at http://www.snponline.com/NEWS6-6/6-6_borecbreak.html

 

  • 9 months later...

Visions for changes in Clintonville debated

Expanding alcohol sales so restaurants will move in is issue in creating city plan

Monday,  March 10, 2008 - 3:09 AM

By Mark Ferenchik, THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

Clintonville's proposed neighborhood plan could help traffic flow more smoothly, preserve park space and identify prime spots for redevelopment.  There's the booze issue, too.  Because some precincts in Clintonville don't allow alcohol sales, there's a dearth of restaurants along N. High Street, or at least fewer than some residents would like.

 

Read more at http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/03/10/CLINTONPLAN.ART_ART_03-10-08_B3_FM9JIG2.html?sid=101

^ Does anyone have any insight on why Columbus has/had so many dry areas? Is it because so many people in town were Appalachian Ohio and Kentucky "immigrants"? Adams and Scioto Counties have dry areas, and Greenup and the county west of it (can't think of the name) in Kentucky are dry.

  • 1 month later...

NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN

City presents 3 development concepts

Thursday, May 1, 2008

By JENNIFER NESBITT, ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

At a currently vacant lot at the corner of Westview Avenue and North High Street, city planners envision mixed-use buildings along High Street with lower-lever retail and second-story offices or residences and walk-up townhouses along Westview.

 

Where the old theatre stands at North Broadway and High Street, planners see a restored mixed-use two-story theatre with one-story retail on either side.  In place of the Goodwill plaza near Glen Echo Ravine, planners see a mixed-use, two-story building facing High Street, with a four-story residential building overlooking a park and walking trail along the ravine.

 

City planners presented those and other concepts for the sites they've chosen to highlight in Clintonville's neighborhood plan to residents at the second public meeting for the plan April 23.

 

MORE: http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/clintonville/stories/2008/05/01/0501clneighborhoodplan_ln.html

  • 1 month later...

Indianola Plaza parking lot improvements to complete renovations

Wednesday, June 11, 2008

By JENNIFER NESBITT, ThisWeekNews.com

 

The Clintonville Area Commission voted to support the only variance needed to finish the renovations that have taken place at Indianola Plaza over the past year.  The Hadler Companies, which owns the plaza, is requesting a variance from the city to reduce the number of parking spaces at the plaza by 11.  The 76,000-square-foot center, which The Hadler Companies opened in 1965, houses Weiland's Gourmet Market, Dante's Pizza and the Volunteers of America thrift store, among others

 

CAC Zoning and Development Committee Chairwoman Sandy Simbro said the variance will bring the plaza into compliance with the overlays by adding new lighting and landscaping to the space.  The Zoning and Development Committee as well as the CAC voted to recommend that the city approve the variance request.  The request will be heard before the Columbus Board of Zoning Adjustments on June 24, Simbro said.

 

MORE: http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/clintonville/stories/2008/06/11/0612clplaza_ln.html

  • 1 month later...

City expects to finalize draft of plan for Clintonville

Wednesday,  August 6, 2008

By JENNIFER NESBITT

ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

Following positive feedback from Clintonville residents at a public meeting last month, city planners are moving forward to finalize a draft of the Clintonville neighborhood plan.  "The majority of the recommendations we made had strong, overwhelming support" at the July 9 meeting, said Christine Palmer, the city planner who is heading up the neighborhood plan process in Clintonville.

 

Palmer said the community's working group for the plan has proposed some minor changes, and she said planning department staffers will meet with the work group again and will present the plan to the Clintonville Area Commission and its Development Committee to determine whether more revisions are needed before presenting the final draft to the public.

 

At the July 9 public meeting, members of the city planning staff presented some of the draft language for the plan to residents.  The city planners took feedback at that meeting and posted the presentation from the meeting on the Clintonville neighborhood plan Web site, http://development.columbus.gov/Bizdevelopment/PlanList/PL_115.asp, to allow residents to comment further.

 

MORE: http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/clintonville/stories/2008/08/06/0807clplan_ln.html

  • 10 months later...

High Street roundabout sought

Some on North Broadway favor circle over adding left-turn lane

Monday,  June 22, 2009 3:11 AM

By Bill Bush, THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

A Clintonville task force is proposing what members say would be the first urban traffic roundabout in Franklin County, at High Street and E. North Broadway.  In suburbs such as Dublin and Hilliard, roundabouts have reduced injury accidents and process traffic more efficiently than traffic lights, officials say. Columbus city officials say only that they are studying the Clintonville proposal.

 

The idea surfaced after Columbus proposed a $385,000 widening of a small stretch of E. North Broadway to accommodate a left turn lane onto High Street.  Westbound motorists who want to turn south onto High use side streets because North Broadway does not have a turn lane, said Mike McLaughlin, a Clintonville Area Commission member.  The seven-member task force that McLaughlin led recommended that the turn-lane project go forward, but that a roundabout should eventually be built, he said.

 

Read more at http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/06/22/high_roundabout.ART_ART_06-22-09_B1_55E8I8P.html

That seems really pointless to me... and there are already urban roundabouts in the neighborhood bordered by 5th, King, Neil, and Perry. 

No comparison. Those circles are primarily aesthetic features in a small residential area with little traffic. The proposed Clintonville roundabout, and those in Gahanna, Dublin, Hilliard and other places, are aimed at traffic control in areas with very heavy through-traffic.

At the cost of tearing down another urban commercial building on the corner, of course. This is more of the same. Nevermind making the street more attractive to businesses, residents, pedestrians, cyclists, etc. The main reason for doing this is the holiest of all that is holy: traffic flow. Nevermind that there are highways, let's accommodate stupid decision making and ensure that people can choose to live several miles out and speed on through High and lower property values, create high noise pollution to make it less pleasant to live nearby, maintain a hostile pedestrian environment, dissuade businesses from moving in, scare off cyclists from riding on the road, etc.

This roundabout article was also posted here on the Columbus & Central Ohio: Highway and Roadway News thread in the Transportation section.  But since it could potentially involve urban design issues along with roadway issues, I don't see any problem with posting it here as well.

Here is the graphic of the proposed Clintonville roundabout included with the article...

 

4511219930_f2d4cf6fcd_o.jpg

 

I really don't understand the Clintonville Area Commission's enthusiasm for this roundabout idea.  I've driven some of the new traffic roundabouts in Hilliard and Dublin.  And they're okay.  But those roundabouts are in non-urban and still undeveloped areas.  In a developed urban context, like N. High and Broadway, a new roundabout would be a disaster for pedestrians, bikers and the surrounding buildings. 

 

Looking at the proposed roundabout map - it looks like a freeway interchange escaped from I-71, crawled over to Clintonville and then died at Broadway and High!

Well, I sent an email to the CAC.

 

Dear Clintonville Area Commission,

 

Judging from the fact no one opposes changing the intersection at all and that the commission has no problem tearing down another urban commercial building for the sake of speeding cars, it is no surprise that much of Clintonville has become Anyburb, USA with drive-thrus and autoshops galore instead of an intact urban street that would rival, or best, the Short North.

 

Instead, what is going to be done to make N High attractive to businesses, residents, visitors, developers, etc? What is going to be done to make it more accessible to pedestrians and cyclists? Because the answer is not widening an intersection or installing a roundabout. Emphasis needs to be put on the interesting/urban parts of the neighborhood and traffic needs to be slowed for a better environment for businesses, visitors, cyclists, wheelchairs, etc. To accomplish that, the speed limit needs to be lowered to 25 MPH, traffic lights should be re-timed to enforce  the limit, and a new one should be added along N High south of the intersection. Pedestrians should not have to walk all the way from Como to N Broadway (that's 1,000 ft) in order to cross the street. The city doesn't put pedestrians through that in the Short North, so why should they have to walk twice as far just because they're in Clintonville? Do what is good for N High to make Clintonville a better destination, not somewhere to speed through. For that we have these things called "highways".

Actually, the Clintonville Area Commission has yet to even discuss the roundabout. It created a task force to look at improvements to the intersection, and the task force is considering a roundabout recommendation (it has not made a recommendation to CAC yet).

 

I like the roundabout concept, but have real doubts how it would work at B'Way & High -- because of traffic volume, two lanes in the circle, and pedestrian crossings. The task force has actually talked about development opportunities with the roundabout -- even though a roundabout would likely require some demolition (the graphic above is NOT a proposal for the roundabout -- it is more of an engineer's schematic that shows how much space would be needed to accommodate a roundabout; actual placement of the circle and other features would be part of the actual engineering).

 

The pluses of a roundabout include slower traffic. Roundabouts are designed for overall efficiency, which is steadier -- but slower -- traffic. It was proposed as part of  a traffic-calming, complete-streets strategy. The task force also thought it would be aesthetically distinctive, which conceivably could attract good urban development to the area.

 

The minuses are, obviously, the cost. Not just the engineering and construction costs, but the land-acquisition costs. Another problem that keeps surfacing is the impact of a roundabout on bicycle traffic and pedestrian traffic -- particularly kids and blind people.

 

Adding to the complexity of this discussion is that the roundabout idea grew out of some neighborhood opposition to widening a small part of E. North Broadway to accommodate a left turn onto southbound High. The debate over cut-through traffic from the lack of a left turn is very heated in parts of Clintonville. The city's proposal was more lanes and a wider intersection at a spot that already is designed for speed and has ugly parking lots on three of four corners.

 

I actually think a roundabout would be an improvement on the status quo. I hope there are other alternatives, but city engineers have not given the task force much to work with.

 

I agree with earlier comments that part of any good solution is to restore the urban fabric and make the area more dense in terms of retail and housing on High Street. On the other hand, there is no interest in that on the part of developers.

Found an older article on traffic roundabouts that have been built and/or planned in the Central Ohio area as of the October 22, 2007 publication date.  Below is the link to the full story.

 

No getting around roundabout craze

 

roundabouts_TMD.jpg_10-22-07_B1_LU87UHE.jpg

Hilliard plans to build five more roundabouts

like this one at Britton Parkway and Riggins Road.

 

1022_ROUNDABOUT_map_mn_10-22-07_B2_5T88EUG.jpg

Map of roundabouts that are open,

under construction or proposed in

Central Ohio.

North Broadway/High roundabout fix could cost $19 million

Friday,  June 26, 2009 - 4:58 PM

By Gary Seman Jr., ThisWeek Staff Writer

 

To totally reconfigure the North Broadway and High Street intersection in Clintonville, it would cost the city of Columbus an estimated $17 million to $19 million.  That is according to the Department of Public Service's review of the "ultimate concept" -- medians added to East and West North Broadway and four roundabout locations: Broadway and Indianola Avenue, Broadway and Calumet Street, Broadway and High and Broadway and Milton Avenue.

 

Another part of the plan calls for the closing of the state Route 315 ramps to West North Broadway.  The evaluation includes the cost of right-of-way acquisition.  Mike McLaughlin, who chairs a Clintonville task force responsible for reviewing the intersection changes, said he was "a little bit surprised" by the cost but was reluctant to comment further, saying the entire committee needs to review the plan.

 

For more on this story, see the July 2 edition of ThisWeek Clintonville.

 

Read more at http://www.thisweeknews.com/live/content/clintonville/stories/2009/06/24/intersection_update.html?sid=104

Mark my words: this project will go nowhere (I'll spare you the 'round-and-'round groaner).

There's a meeting on the intersection 6/18, 4300 Indianola at 6:30...AM.

The next meeting is July 14 -- location not set yet.  Public presentation of the task force's likely recommendations is July 23, probably at 4300 Indianola, 7 p.m.

Say What Kingfish?!?!

 

Mark my words: this project will go nowhere (I'll spare you the 'round-and-'round groaner).

 

City dumps traffic-circle idea

Steep costs, logistics lead officials to ax N. High-E. North Broadway project

Tuesday,  June 30, 2009 - 3:10 AM

By Mark Ferenchik and Robert Vitale, THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

Columbus officials have killed an idea for a proposed traffic circle at N. High Street and E. North Broadway in Clintonville because of high costs and concerns that it would require taking away too much property from nearby landowners.  The Clintonville roundabout would have cost at least $17 million to build, planning and operations administrator Patricia Austin wrote in a letter to D Searcy, who leads the Clintonville Area Commission.  Austin thought the roundabout would take out a Starbucks and possibly a Kroger store at the intersection.

 

Read more at http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2009/06/30/TRAFCIR.ART_ART_06-30-09_B3_EAEB7FQ.html?sid=101

Here is a copy of the message I sent the reporters about the article above:

 

Mark, Robert:

 

A couple of comments on the story about the Clintonville roundabout.

 

First, the story says a roundabout at E. North Broadway and N. High Street would cost $17 million. Take a closer look at the attached letter from Patty Austin to D Searcy and you'll see that the $17 million was for four roundabouts and a series of medians on High Street and W. North Broadway. (This figure does not include land acquisition.)

 

Second, you said the task force had estimated the project would cost $1 million. I am a member of the task force and attended every meeting. I can assure you the task force never presented an estimate of $1 million or any other figure.

 

Words marked.

 

Sloppy, sloppy reporting acknowledged, too. No wonder people don't read the newspaper anymore.

High St. will get streetcars before it gets a roundabout.  Columbus residents will not agree to a roundabout on the always linear high st.

Considering the ruckus put forth over adding a left turn lane, seeking a round-a-bout seemed like asking a girl to marry you after she turns you down for the prom. Darn you, Mary Jane. Darn you to heck!

Actually, the roundabout is being pushed by the people who oppose the left-turn lane.

Bad analogy, I know. I guess the big objection to the left turn lane was increased traffic? I suppose the circle would calm that a bit. Still, a pretty ambitious remedy...

 

On a related rant, it drives me nuts (ha ha) how difficult it is to pull a left turn in this town--speaking specifically of the inner-to-outer ring development like Morse, Bethel, 161, and Polaris. I guess I just miss Detroit's generous supply of Michigan Lefts.

The left-turn objection is not to the traffic, but to the one-lane widening 100 feet up from the intersection. The fear of many is that it will lead to widening of the entire length of E. North Broadway.

 

As to the Michigan U-Turns, I'm not entirely clear why our task force is not able to look at those -- which are far less intrusive and expensive than other options.

A slippery slope indeed.

 

You need wider roads to accommodate the Michigan lefts--many of the older ones were carved out of medians left empty by the disappearance of the inturbans.

There's the solution! Bring back the interurbans! Reduce the traffic and we have no problem.

 

Of course, in Clintonville, some people are blaming COTA buses in part for the problem because they stop in front of the traffic light, blocking traffic. As if a regularly scheduled bus every half hour or so, if we're lucky, can create a major traffic problem.

Much as Columbus is seen as a microcosm of America, I see Clintonville as a microcosm of Columbus. *Sigh*

Fake liberals aplenty. Many don't want to make any real improvements to the neighborhood (this being another example) to make it more bikeable and walkable, because it would ruin High as a mini-highway. And how are they supposed to go to those drive-thrus which replaced those pesky urban buildings? Their bumper stickers say no war for oil, but their lifestyle requires them. KOOW sums it up better.

 

Oh well, I do my part to slow down, err, calm traffic whenever I bike on High. I always make the right lane mine.

This would be a discussion for another thread, but I'm a Clintonville bicyclist and I never make the right lane mine. I say, Share the road. If I take the lane and slow the traffic, I am feeding the anger and lack of understanding with which unenlightened motorists regard bicyclists. I am living up to their stereotypes.

But, that is the very definition sharing the road. I go faster than the buses in any case and they have the left lane. My life takes precedent over their speeding. Acting like a car minimizes your risks by not creating new conflicts between you and drivers. Drivers just pass and I've yet to be honked at there.

 

Calming traffic on High should be the priority; a roundabout should've been an idea that was shot down long before appearing in the paper.

Except that roundabouts DO calm traffic. That's what they are designed to do. That's why the task force looked into roundabouts. It was worth looking into. It may not be the best fit for Broadway and High, however, and I hope other options are considered.

In lieu of fixed-obstacles, cyclists will do just fine in the traffic-calming department. Cheaper and more low-maintenance, too. And come to think of it, I've never seen a median take a break and enjoy a cool beverage or quick shopping trip...

It would strike me that roundabouts and bikes would do fine, but you'd have to have make a commitment along the entire High Street corridor to have their effect work best - one at an especially challenging intersection would have been a disaster waiting to happen.

Hopefully they will just scrap this idea. Raised medians along High south of Broadway would be millions better spent. Ever have to cross High St here? Not only do you have long walks to find a place to cross in certain sections, but you have to wait a very long time for the light to change. Medians would provide a safe halfway-point for peds like they do on Gay St, especially for wheelchair ramps at intersections with no traffic lights to stop traffic.

 

IMG_0402.jpg

 

It's actually much more needed on this stretch of High St which is seven lanes wide (notice that the next traffic light to cross at to the south is so far you can't see it):we have two lanes for parking, four for traffic, and a middle section for turning at some intersections.

 

Actually, the same plan/suggestion that included the High/Broadway roundabout also included raised medians on High -- and on W. North Broadway.

Also agree with this (but still needs more medians on High):

 

25 mph Speed Limit * Traffic calming Request speed limit on North High and North Broadway be reduced to 25 mph.

 

Which, of course, renders dangerous bike lanes unnecessary. If someone is uncomfortable riding in calmed traffic, then they should stick to the side streets.

^^^I actually only count 5 lanes in that stretch of High. But if we repurposed those useless sidewalks...

I'm counting the on-street parking. Maybe we should get rid of those for optimal traffic flow and turn the sidewalks into parking for utmost convenience.

Create an account or sign in to comment

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.