Brain Drain

By Michael Jennings  The Sunday Challenger

 

On most indicators of social welfare, Greater Cincinnati appears to be a very mixed bag, but a University of Cincinnati researcher says it includes at least one disturbing long-term trend.  The percentage of the workforce between the ages of 20 and 35 is below the national average and declining, Alfred Tuchfarber, director of the Institute for Policy Research at UC's department of environmental health, said Thursday.

 

Speaking at Northern Kentucky University during the third annual Northern Kentucky Poverty Symposium, Tuchfarber, who also heads a research council for the United Way of Greater Cincinnati, called the dwindling proportion of younger workers "really ominous" because it suggests that the brightest and youngest adults are leaving the region to pursue careers.

 

Other negative trends in the region include infant mortality, low-birth-weight babies and obesity, Tuchfarber said. He said that unemployment is falling in the region but not as fast as it is nationally, and that housing costs, while still relatively affordable, are rising faster than income.

 

Read full article here:

http://www.challengernky.com/articles/2005/05/22/around_nky/doc428e3c35c6549511409782.txt

greetings-

 

does anyone have suggestions on how i could start a career, or better yet at this dire moment, get a job in Cincinnati with an urban/center city real estate development and management company? i spent the majority of March and April pursuing this concept: i've researched urban specialty companies/organizations ranging from (these are brief examples) Model Management to Middle Earth to Commercial groups, such as CBRE, CTMT, Belvedere, Corporex to Sales/Leasing (Huff, Comey);  i've sent electronic and US Postal mail -containing a cover letter, resume, and additional persona/professional information about myself - to the HR folks, VP's and even CEO/Presidents; two weeks, later i made follow up phone calls only to get connected to voice-mails.

 

While performing these functions, I have also pursued employment opportunities in sales, coordination, management, and administration in the following industries: publishing, clinical research, senior living communities, and any other job posting that appears relatively interesting.  If you've ever seen the Michael Douglas movie "Falling Down", that's how i feel, only not as drastic.....nonetheless, i also feel as if i'm a very good example of one of Cincinnati's urban living and population decline issues: Regional "Brain Drain."

 

Here's my background:

 

As a Cincinnati native, and perhaps ideologue, I was in a pathway to become a high school teacher in the Cincinnati Public School System.  Things change however, and I want to return to my original interests: urban RE/PM development and management.  Entry-level opportunities are very welcome at this time.

 

In addition to 19 years of customer service in retail fine dining and healthcare, here are my academic degrees (superb GPA's in all except high school):

 

-Walnut Hill High School graduate

1992-A.D. Real Estate / Property Management (think foundation/footprint)

1999-B.A. Psychology (think stats, analysis, and communication skills)

2002-B.S. Biology (think environmental fit & niche, structure & function)

2003-Alternative Educator License via CPS & UC

 

Recognizing all of you are extremely busy, any input you could provide would be a tremendous service to someone who is attempting to redevelop a career profession that contributes to the economic well-being of Cincinnati, USA.

 

Thank you very much for your time and allowing me to vent.  I really enjoy viewing this website and thought I might vent a little.  My apologies if anyone was off-put / put-off by this posting.

 

Sincerely,

TomOH           

[email protected]    H:(513) 861-4425,  C:(513) 600-7484

I dont know much about the industry but I would imagine that a real estate agent is the easiest path in the industry. Pretty much you have to be licensed to do the job. However, each agent is essentially independent and works on complete commission. Many times they hire assistants to help them. The assistant can learn the business under them while at the same time pursuing their broker's license. Then the assistant's often break on their own. The best bet is to contact an independent real estate agent at Huff, Comey, Remax etc.

 

tomoh, PM (Private Message) Michael Redmond, he is a local Cincinnati Real Estate agent or Cincy-Rise who has connections in that field.  BTW welcome to Urban Ohio and good luck with your search.

Mallory is creating a 'YP Kitchen Cabinet'

By Joe Wessels Post contributor

 

Looking for some YP, check the kitchen cabinet.  Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory is launching a program at next week's Bold Fusion event - a yearly young professional, or YP, summit sponsored by the Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber - at the Duke Energy Center, creating an advisory board of young leaders to guide him on issues relating to that demographic. He plans to call the panel his "YP Kitchen Cabinet."

 

The mayor said a continued effort in the city to attract and retain that highly sought-after age bracket - broadly defined as people in their early 20s to their mid-40s - is key to Cincinnati's growth.  "They bring the energy, the resources, they spend the money. This is the group," Mallory said.

 

Read full article here:

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060720/NEWS01/607200365

I want to make a PYT joke, but can't formulate one...

 

The mayor is slated to be a panelist at the third annual Bold Fusion event, which typically attracts hundreds of YPs - at $55 a pop - for lunch and an afternoon of panels discussing issues facing the city. This year's panelists include several journalists, plus Fountain Square programmer Bill Donabedian, Purple People Bridge Climb owner Dennis Speigel and Chamber President Ellen Van der Horst. The day will end with a happy hour and later a trek to Rockin' on Walnut, an outdoor concert at 6th and Vine streets downtown.

 

 

I finally see "Rockin' on Walnut" mentioned in a local newspaper, and they get the location wrong.  :(

"shutters" WTF!!!!!

Mayor Creates Young Professionals Cabinet

7/27/2006

 

 

Cincinnati's mayor is stacking his pantry with young professionals in his new cabinet.

 

Mayor Mark Mallory announced Thursday that he's forming a young professionals 'kitchen cabinet.'

 

The advisory board will meet to discuss ways to make the city more attractive to young professionals, debating issues from arts and entertainment, business and economic development to cultural diversity and schools and education.

 

The mayor made his announcement in front of Procter and Gamble Thursday morning.

 

He will start taking applications to be on the cabinet at the Bold Fusion Conference, which begins Friday.

Now I would like someone to tell me what, in this photo, looks to be young, vibrant, creative, or hip.  I would say none of the above!  You've got the most conservatively dressed young people around standing behind the mayor...who is addressing the media at a wooden podium with a faded Cincinnati seal on it.  Then you have some poindexter on the right wearing a gray suit jacket while standing next to a chart of some sort (he reminds me of the PC guy on the commercials comparing his pie chart to the Mac's vacation photos).

 

If the city wants to attract yp's and creative types to the city, look no farther than DAAP/CCM.  If the city managed to somehow keep these intelligent, young, creative, progressive individuals around...then maybe the city would be better off.  But it seems as though the city would rather take a photo-op at P&G (part of the good ol' boys) than going up to DAAP/CCM students or graduates (5 min away from city hall).

 

This just highlights the misguided efforts of politicians that think creating some damn cabinet, with interns/first year employees with the good ol' boys, will do the trick....guess again.  This is terrible, as a DAAP student, I know that the overwhelming majority of students within DAAP leave Cincinnati and Ohio immediately after graduation.

 

Lets make a concerted effort here to keep the young, creative, talent that we already have right in the urban core..rather than creating worthless committees and other beuracratic BS!

Isn't that guy in the back with the skinny black tie Brad Hogue?  He's the insurance guy whose face is plastered all over bus benches in Cincy.

I don't think theres any city Cincinnati's size or smaller that has an exceptional amount of young creative people...except Seattle but it's still a much larger city. I think most of them tend to go to Chicago, LA, ATL and NYC. If I was looking for some creative stimulation I would look there not Cincinnati (no matter how much Cincinnati improves it just won't get to that level).

 

I do think Mallory cares about the arts and entertainment in the city. But if our city is really lacking in the young creative department maybe he should be consulting people from cities that we could learn from.

 

You're right though, he should be consulting with DAAP students/grads.

Bold Fusion woos young pros

BY CLIFF PEALE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Dora Anim was born in Ghana and raised in France, but the 31-year-old now makes her home in Westwood.  With a high-level job at the Greater Cincinnati Health Council, Anim is the poster child for the young professionals that civic leaders want to attract and keep here.

 

Despite the region's stagnant population growth and well-publicized image problems, she likes it here.  "There's a lot of positive stuff here that's not really publicized," Anim says. "Like the (Mount Lookout) observatory. I had been here for years and had never heard of it. When I went there, I was blown away."

 

Read full article here:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060728/BIZ01/607280346/1076/

Regional 'investment' sought

Wanted: Bold plan from younger folks

BY CLIFF PEALE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Local young professionals think Cincinnati is making progress and want to help. They call the arts and good neighborhoods the region's most important assets. They're concerned about safety problems in Over-the-Rhine, and they think Newport is "kicking our butt."

 

Oh yeah, they also want casino gambling in Ohio, light rail to the airport and a smoking ban in Cincinnati.  Those were some of the opinions gleaned at Bold Fusion, a Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber of Commerce event Friday at the Duke Energy Center.

 

At an afternoon panel of "movers and shakers," MidPoint Music Festival co-founder Bill Donabedian, who will manage the programming on the renovated Fountain Square, told the crowd of about 400 to get involved.  "If you believe in it, invest in it, and that's how we'll see some change."

 

Wooing this group of people younger than 40 is one of the top priorities of local business and civic leaders, who are dealing with stagnating regional population and flight to the suburbs. The chamber has introduced several programs to get the group involved, and Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory introduced another.  His "Kitchen Cabinet" will connect the group to city government and advise him on important issues, he said.

 

Read full article here:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060729/BIZ01/607290335/1076/

Now I would like someone to tell me what, in this photo, looks to be young, vibrant, creative, or hip.  I would say none of the above!  You've got the most conservatively dressed young people around standing behind the mayor...who is addressing the media at a wooden podium with a faded Cincinnati seal on it.  Then you have some poindexter on the right wearing a gray suit jacket while standing next to a chart of some sort (he reminds me of the PC guy on the commercials comparing his pie chart to the Mac's vacation photos).

 

If the city wants to attract yp's and creative types to the city, look no farther than DAAP/CCM.  If the city managed to somehow keep these intelligent, young, creative, progressive individuals around...then maybe the city would be better off.  But it seems as though the city would rather take a photo-op at P&G (part of the good ol' boys) than going up to DAAP/CCM students or graduates (5 min away from city hall).

 

This just highlights the misguided efforts of politicians that think creating some damn cabinet, with interns/first year employees with the good ol' boys, will do the trick....guess again.  This is terrible, as a DAAP student, I know that the overwhelming majority of students within DAAP leave Cincinnati and Ohio immediately after graduation.

 

Lets make a concerted effort here to keep the young, creative, talent that we already have right in the urban core..rather than creating worthless committees and other beuracratic BS!

 

Hah, that's exactly what I was thinking =)

 

I hate the whole concept behind "young professionals." It seems like the cats been out of the bag on this one for six years, and have any cities like Cincy or Cleveland or Pittsburgh REALLY been able to get these young professionals into town? And what do you do with them when you get them? I'm a "young professional" with a creative job, but I make $28,000 and between my rent, car payment and other expenses, I have basically nothing leftover. I suppose they are aiming for someone with a little more income, but as far as I know, many creative jobs aren't that financially lucrative.

 

My biggest pet peeve about this dumb movement is it basically ignores a giant chunk of our populations -- the people who have good, solid jobs but don't wear a suit or khakis to work, like electricians, plumbers, hair stylists, truck drivers, etc. These people also start companies and create jobs just like some theoretic computer programmer. In Michigan, I met a guy whose first "real" job was as a construction worker. He did that until it started breaking him down physically, which is about when he started his own business and had his own workers. He eventually sold that small business to someone else and then he opened a small shop where he makes and sells found-object sculptures!

 

When I think of the term "young professional," all I see is a new generation of yes men that are basically just like previous corporate workers except they're not afraid to bolt if things become not to their liking. They act like that's empowerment.

 

There's nothing wrong with being young and having a professional job, but I don't see why they are more valuable than any other person who has a job, pays taxes and supports a local economy.

 

edit: I'm not sure of Portland's population, but it's similar in size to Cincy, isn't it? I know I thought of moving there. Still do, but it's not in the cards for the moment.

A professional does not mean somebody who wears a shirt and tie to work.  I'm not sure why are have associated that criteria to the term young professional.  The business owner that you described would be a young professional if he happened to be under the age of 40. 

 

It's kinda funny that you don't like the term young professional or the desire to have a city attract them but you want to move to a city that has had success of attracting and keeping young professionals. 

I associate it with something like that because I always read that a "professional" career was one that had some degree of accreditation or licensure and specialized education. That would be doctors, lawyers, etc. Carpenters, on the other hand, who also have specific training, would be tradesmen. And everyone else would be just a generic worker. Maybe this is an old fashion way of looking at it. This could turn into splitting hairs, so I'll cede to you whatever definition you want to use.

 

My fundamental point is, if you go to a young professional meeting in Cincy, Columbus or Cleveland, you're not going to find 20-somethings sipping martinis after just coming off their shifts tearing up the street outside whatever fancy downtown bar the meeting is at -- unless they changed into a suit in the port-o-potty before entering. I guess if we cut away all the beating around the bush, I don't like the term "young professional" because it conjures yuppies that ask "what do you do" before they ask "what is your name?" I'll admit that I'm being overly broad and probably unduly harsh, but I just think the term "young professional" is too exclusive, so while your definition of it may include a 20-something that works for DHL, I don't think it does in reality, and I bet you that person wouldn't call themself a "young professional," either.

 

There's nothing wrong with being a young professional -- that's not what I meant, anyway. I also couldn't care less if a city tries to attract "young professionals." You definitely need them. I lived in a small town that had no young people, let alone young professionals. It's the most depressing atmosphere you can imagine. Cities need everyone in order to feel vibrant -- young, old, rich, poor, imigrant, artist, executive, young professional. It takes all kinds to make the world go round.

 

I just think it's stupid to aim specifically at young professionals because there is about a .001% chance a governmental body can legislate "cool," which is what most young people are looking for after a job. In Cleveland, for example, the "tech czar" wanted to get MTV to do the Real World in Cleveland.  MTV comes after you've become "cool," and there's no way Cleveland is going to get a season in the next 10 years, if that show is even still around then. The Real World: Cleveland sounds like a comedy sketch.

 

Maybe you can go back and analyze things and find a governmental action that made Portland and Denver "cool" and Michigan, Ohio and Indiana not cool, but I just feel like it's organic change that builds on itself. I don't think the mayor of Portland has anything to do with keeping people in Portland besides offering a quality of life the majority of people enjoy and can afford. That's what the government should be focused on. Instead of looking for rainbows with pots of YPs inside, they should make the cities they govern better for the people who live there NOW.

 

Anyway, you're catching that Portland thing is interesting, though. I've never been there, and I have to admit I considered moving there for three reasons: #1. The city got rated really well as a bicycling-friendly community. #2. Sleater Kinney is from there. #3. I saw a picture of their light rail, and I thought it was cool.

Something that I think you are missing is that you can't legislate being cool.  Seattle, Portland, Denver, Chicago didn't become cool and attract young professionals becuase they marketed to them.  All they did was be welcoming to new business and open minded to different things and different ways of doing things.  This open mindness allowed young people to become attracted to their city.  Once the young and creative people came to their cities they started to influence the legislation. 

 

This is the one thing that is so holding Cincinnati back.  That is the feeling that you have to do everything the way it has been done!!!  I mean come on, how much talk and dissapointment was caused due to the fountain on fountain square being moved??!!  People in this town just focused on the fountain being moved and didn't focus on all of the new restuarants and programing and renovations happening!!!

 

The citizens of this city need to stop living in the past and start living in the present and thinking about the future!!!! 

Actually, if you read my second post a little closer, I think we agree :). I don't think the government knows the first thing about being cool, and I also think governments do a crappy job attracting people to cities.

 

They should be open to new things, and when people with big ideas DO come to town, they should get out of the way.

 

 

I take groups of Cincinnatians out to Portland all the time to see the rail system and to understand how it has turned that city around in the last twenty years -- about 250 Cincinnatians so far. Understanding how rail makes development easier by removing the car expense and parking burden is fundamental to making downtown development easier and more affordable. Any discussion of how to bring the city back pretty much begins with making it a more walkable community.

 

Ou next trip is October 13th. Write to me at [email protected] if you'd like to go.

 

Thanks.

I would love to be able to live with out a car!!!  I can only imagine what 600 dollars a month could buy me in a house or travel, or savings, or anything but a car and gas and insurance and maintanence!!!!!!!

I don't think the government knows the first thing about being cool, and I also think governments do a crappy job attracting people to cities.

 

They should be open to new things, and when people with big ideas DO come to town, they should get out of the way.

 

.....Nick Spencer??

Rando you 100 percent for sure staying in the Nati after you graduate? Cincinnati does need planners like you.

 

I'm tempted to go to NYC or Chicago. I love Cincinnati, I just need a change and I love giant cities. When I'm rich in 6 years I'll still have a second home in Mt. Adams of course.

I don't think the government knows the first thing about being cool, and I also think governments do a crappy job attracting people to cities.

 

They should be open to new things, and when people with big ideas DO come to town, they should get out of the way.

 

.....Nick Spencer??

I don't think the government knows the first thing about being cool, and I also think governments do a crappy job attracting people to cities.

 

They should be open to new things, and when people with big ideas DO come to town, they should get out of the way.

 

.....Nick Spencer??

 

hahaha. Nope! Just me. It's a little freaky the stuff he's saying on his blog though. Like he's reading my mind, and I'm not even a business owner!

 

 

Something that I think you are missing is that you can't legislate being cool.  Seattle, Portland, Denver, Chicago didn't become cool and attract young professionals becuase they marketed to them.  All they did was be welcoming to new business and open minded to different things and different ways of doing things.  This open mindness allowed young people to become attracted to their city.  Once the young and creative people came to their cities they started to influence the legislation. 

 

This is the one thing that is so holding Cincinnati back.  That is the feeling that you have to do everything the way it has been done!!!  I mean come on, how much talk and dissapointment was caused due to the fountain on fountain square being moved??!!  People in this town just focused on the fountain being moved and didn't focus on all of the new restuarants and programing and renovations happening!!!

 

The citizens of this city need to stop living in the past and start living in the present and thinking about the future!!!! 

 

Bravo :clap:

I don't like the term "young professional" because it conjures yuppies that ask "what do you do" before they ask "what is your name?"

 

come to cincy it's not whats your name, what do you do, it's what highschool did you go to.

Yep

I noticed Cincinnati is pretty status oriented and people can easily be identified by

a. what neighborhood they live in

b. what highschool they went to

c. what kroger they shop at

 

Sad and painfully true.

^I've noticed that people always say that, and that nobody I've met in the last 10 years has actually cared about any of that.  Maybe I'm not running with the right crowd, but social status?  Honestly?  Sure, jokes and whatnot, but actual social status, whatever the hell that is?

 

I think it makes for a funny joke, but it's neither sad, painful nor true.  But again, maybe I just run with the wrong crowd...

 

In three years, only one person has asked me where I went to high school at or near the time of our introduction.  I have been asked what neighborhood I live in, and have asked that question myself.  It is a good conversation starter, because it is current, and often an area of common ground, unlike the high school question.

^I've noticed that people always say that, and that nobody I've met in the last 10 years has actually cared about any of that.  Maybe I'm not running with the right crowd, but social status?  Honestly?  Sure, jokes and whatnot, but actual social status, whatever the hell that is?

 

I think it makes for a funny joke, but it's neither sad, painful nor true.  But again, maybe I just run with the wrong crowd...

 

When you're around XU and UC students that grew up here; yeah its a common question. The Kroger thing was just really funny to me because the people I know that live in Price Hill shop at grocery stores in Delhi and people I know in Delhi do groery shopping in Green Township or Dent or whatever that is.

Rando you 100 percent for sure staying in the Nati after you graduate? Cincinnati does need planners like you.

 

I'm tempted to go to NYC or Chicago. I love Cincinnati, I just need a change and I love giant cities. When I'm rich in 6 years I'll still have a second home in Mt. Adams of course.

 

I would say more like 90% sure.  I would love to find a good job downtown, but who knows what the market will hold when I graduate.  It would also be great if I were able to start up a planning firm with some of my fellow planners (in school) that have expressed a great interest in staying in Cincinnati.

 

For me its one of those things where I see great potential/assets for Cincinnati.  I believe that it can become GREAT once again, and be a destination for all people.  I feel that the transition is starting to take form, and I would like to help it along and make Cincinnati the GREAT place it can be!

Bold Fusion gives YPs more chances to connect

Laura Baverman - July 28, 2006

 

More than 400 young professionals came away from the Cincinnati USA Regional Chamber's Bold Fusion event Friday with opportunities to connect, develop and lead.  Showcased by keynote speaker Jim Borgman, long-time Cincinnati Enquirer and syndicated cartoonist, and highlighted by panels of media professionals and city leaders, the summit launched three year-long projects initiated by the 45 members of C-Change, the Chamber's inaugural leadership development class.

 

The three projects, developed since the group began meeting in February, focus on business and leadership development through an executive shadowing program (C-connect), a Web site that links volunteers to opportunities (C-Develop) and a young professional resource guide and fair in October (C-Lead).

 

Read full article here:

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2006/07/24/daily71.html

Rando you 100 percent for sure staying in the Nati after you graduate? Cincinnati does need planners like you.

 

I'm tempted to go to NYC or Chicago. I love Cincinnati, I just need a change and I love giant cities. When I'm rich in 6 years I'll still have a second home in Mt. Adams of course.

 

I would say more like 90% sure.  I would love to find a good job downtown, but who knows what the market will hold when I graduate.  It would also be great if I were able to start up a planning firm with some of my fellow planners (in school) that have expressed a great interest in staying in Cincinnati.

 

For me its one of those things where I see great potential/assets for Cincinnati.  I believe that it can become GREAT once again, and be a destination for all people.  I feel that the transition is starting to take form, and I would like to help it along and make Cincinnati the GREAT place it can be!

A planning firm, downtown...that would be very cool :]

For me its one of those things where I see great potential/assets for Cincinnati.  I believe that it can become GREAT once again, and be a destination for all people.  I feel that the transition is starting to take form, and I would like to help it along and make Cincinnati the GREAT place it can be!

 

Well said.  :clap: 

A planning firm, downtown...that would be very cool :]

 

It is interesting to see how things develop.  If you notice, there is an interesting synergy developing in the area of 8th and Sycamore.  This area has seen some very cool places open as of late:  Blue Wisp Jazz Club, The Renaisance Apts, St Xavier Place Apts, GBBN Architects, Glaserworks, a small market, and some other small design firms.

 

This place also is mixed-use galore!  Almost all of the bldgs have been converted with mixed-uses of retail, office, and residential.  If I had my choice, this would be an ideal location for a living/working quarters.  If anyone else with similar thoughts as me is interested in taking this concept to the next level...keep in touch.  I think this is very doable, especially with the progressive/creative minds that lurk on this forum.

 

Lets take things into our hands and start to create the vibrant core we all want/desire!

Mayor: City must think young

By Joe Wessels Post contributor

 

The cabinet is now stocked.  Mayor Mark Mallory's young professionals advisory board, dubbed his "YP Kitchen Cabinet," announced its members Tuesday evening at the Theodore M. Berry International Friendship Park. Mallory appointed three executive board members, nine committee chairs and about 60 committee members.

 

Economic forecasters say young professionals help fill key technology, arts and entertainment voids, which cities need in order to grow and prosper. The group also has more discretionary income.  "You are among the most energetic people in this city. It only makes sense to reach out and try to get information from you about how to keep you here and about how to reach out and attract more people to this city," the mayor told cabinet members.

 

Mallory said members would benefit by having direct access to the mayor's office and working with the mayor on issues facing the city.  Candace Klein - a lifelong Northern Kentuckian, resident of Covington and student at Salmon P. Chase College of Law - was appointed the president of the group. Klein's appointment, Mallory said, was a clear sign his administration wants to include the region in the leadership process.

 

Read full article here:

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061018/NEWS01/610180360

Young professionals offer suggestions for city

JOE WESSELS | November 29, 2006

 

More clearly labeled taxi stands and more places to find them downtown.  That was one suggestion among many from young professionals who gathered for a "sounding session" at City Hall Tuesday aimed at making Cincinnati more attractive to people in their demographic.

 

The program, with Mayor Mark Mallory as presenter, was co-sponsored by YP Wired, a young professionals initiative.  Mallory was quick to point out to Janell Hubbard, an Over-the-Rhine resident and a Fifth Third Bank employee, that there was a taxi stand downtown, at Sixth and Vine streets.

 

Hubbard said she was unaware of that, even though she lives and works downtown: "Then I think we need to brand them or something."  She said transportation is a problem for people who want to get to the Over-the-Rhine Main Street entertainment district or downtown to eat or catch a performance.

 

Read full article here:

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/NEWS01/611290384

^ I went to that meeting.  It was interesting.  Personally, I was impressed by the mayor.

Hey, I'm on the YP Kitchen Cabinet, Civic engagement committee, anybody have any suggestions?

^Light rail anyone.... :|

I agree but we don't have 92 million for a downtown streetcar line let alone the 1 billion for a decent rail system.

You've gotta start somewhere...the price tag is never going to get cheaper.  Get some of the local corporations on board, and get a line built...then based off of ridership use that revenue to start construction of other lines.  I don't know why it has to be an all or nothing thing.  Lets just get the damn thing going, or we will always be saying that its toooo expensive.  All good investments take some initial capital to get them going...lets do the damn thing!!!!

I agree, but I literally have no say in the matter.

^completely understandable....just letting out some steam  :-D

no problem, I'm sure you've seen it but if not check out citystreetcar.net

Hey, I'm on the YP Kitchen Cabinet, Civic engagement committee, anybody have any suggestions?

 

LIGHT RAIL

^^ditto

light rail please

And an end to racial strife?  Oh, and no more cancer.

 

 

 

Sorry...I'd like light rail as well...

 

I'm on the Civic Engagement Committee, oddly enough our portfolio does not include light rail. 

I'm on the Civic Engagement Committee, oddly enough our portfolio does not include light rail. 

 

So, insist that it does.