That's this building, correct?

 

Nestle USA to move pizza operations, 250 jobs to Solon

By RACHEL ABBEY McCAFFERTY

10:44 am, October 30, 2013

 

Nestle USA is moving its Nestle Pizza Division to Solon from Northbrook, Ill., and is bringing 250 jobs with it, the company has announced.“By moving Nestle Pizza to Ohio, we'll bring together terrific brands and powerful businesses that will create many more talent development opportunities for our Nestle employees,” Nestle USA chairman and CEO Paul Grimwood said in the release.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20131030/FREE/131039978

^^Yes.  The article listed it as being at E173rd and Euclid.  It is actually on Euclid between Arabella and London.  Maybe 173rd is the equivalent of one of those streets, but it is not marked.

Nestle USA to move pizza operations, 250 jobs to Solon

By RACHEL ABBEY McCAFFERTY

10:44 am, October 30, 2013

 

Nestle USA is moving its Nestle Pizza Division to Solon from Northbrook, Ill., and is bringing 250 jobs with it, the company has announced.“By moving Nestle Pizza to Ohio, we'll bring together terrific brands and powerful businesses that will create many more talent development opportunities for our Nestle employees,” Nestle USA chairman and CEO Paul Grimwood said in the release.

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20131030/FREE/131039978

 

Interesting.

 

Nestle's has some very personalized moving patterns.  US headquarters moved from NYC to Cleveland when Biggars became CEO, because he didn't want to move.  When he retired, they moved to LA because the new head was from Carnation and he wanted to stay put.

^That's making a lot of presumptions which I don't feel are warranted.  Having the CCF in that bulidnig was doing much for the neighborhood.  It wasn't hurting the neighborhood, but it had 0 interaction.  It is a gated fortress.  The Clinic was occupying it probably for the cheap rent and I suspect the clinic will still use it.  Isn't that where the clinic does its laundry?

 

What benefit whatsoever, to either CC or its employees, would any interaction with that neighborhood have been?

^That's making a lot of presumptions which I don't feel are warranted.  Having the CCF in that bulidnig was doing much for the neighborhood.  It wasn't hurting the neighborhood, but it had 0 interaction.  It is a gated fortress.  The Clinic was occupying it probably for the cheap rent and I suspect the clinic will still use it.  Isn't that where the clinic does its laundry?

 

What benefit whatsoever, to either CC or its employees, would any interaction with that neighborhood have been?

 

Huh?  I wasn't suggesting there would be a benefit.  I was simply surmising that there was no interaction.  There really is no neighborhood.  It is in an odd stretch between 152nd and 185th, with nothing immediately adjacent but more industrial buildings.  Assuming there was something worthwhile at Euclid-Green (besides the hookers, of course), you'd still have a bit of a walk to get there.

That's this building, correct?

 

 

 

That's also where MedWish is located. And they have a pretty substantial portion of the building.Although it is mostly in the rear.

^I think there are several buildings on that lot.

^That's making a lot of presumptions which I don't feel are warranted.  Having the CCF in that bulidnig was doing much for the neighborhood.  It wasn't hurting the neighborhood, but it had 0 interaction.  It is a gated fortress.  The Clinic was occupying it probably for the cheap rent and I suspect the clinic will still use it.  Isn't that where the clinic does its laundry?

 

What benefit whatsoever, to either CC or its employees, would any interaction with that neighborhood have been?

 

Huh?  I wasn't suggesting there would be a benefit.  I was simply surmising that there was no interaction.  There really is no neighborhood.  It is in an odd stretch between 152nd and 185th, with nothing immediately adjacent but more industrial buildings.  Assuming there was something worthwhile at Euclid-Green (besides the hookers, of course), you'd still have a bit of a walk to get there.

 

Well, the hookers are a dead giveaway that there's significant drug activity in the area. 

 

I could be wrong, but I think the fencing is a relatively new addition.  That stuff isn't cheap.

 

CCF will probably keep it as a laundry/storeroom.

There's not enough people for their to be significant drug activity in the area.  There is very little foot traffic, other then to and from the elementary school acccAnd I was attempting to be comical about the hookers at Euclid-Green.  That was relatively short lived and was brought to an end.

"@mjarboe: CMBS deals likely to jump, per @UrbanLandInst/@PwC_LLP report: http://t.co/by0TdLWP8r #CLE still ranks near bottom of cities for investment."

There's not enough people for their to be significant drug activity in the area.  There is very little foot traffic, other then to and from the elementary school acccAnd I was attempting to be comical about the hookers at Euclid-Green.  That was relatively short lived and was brought to an end.

 

The people who work there have gone on record with a different opinion.

 

Fences are expensive, they weren't built for no reason.

What record?  Actually, the fence (which I suspect pre-dated the clinic) is typical for low density industrial areas such as this where property crime is the chief concern.  The very large gate is open everytime I drive past and there is no guard sitting at it.

Cuyahoga is the biggest county in the state, yet Franklin County (Columbus) has gotten far more job-creating tax credits than Cleveland. With an election coming up, you'd think he'd fix this given that Metro Cleveland is the most populated part of the state....

 

Tax breaks by each county:

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/interactive/article/20131118/BIZ/131115017/Where-tax-breaks-go

What?!  That ain't right!  With the amount of jobs lost over the past ten years in Cuyahoga County alone, you would think that maybe this part of the state should get a bit more than what it's been given.  But the madness continues- Cleveland's economy remains in the freezer and Columbus gets the majority of the tax credits.  The PD should pick up on this pronto.

^The PD is more obsessed with football (including OSU football, bizarrely) and kittens stuck in trees.

One stat missing here--what are the number of applications by county?  I'll admit I'm not up on the process.  Could it be that more businesses in Franklin request these?  Or is Franklin overwhelmingly being approved for these credits, at the expense of Hamilton and Cuyahoga? 

 

This is where having a real daily newspaper could help. 

I guess I don't find this info very surprising or scandalous.  Given that the tax credits are awarded for job creation, I would have expected them to track the dynamism of the local metro economies.  It may raise questions about the fairness of state-level economic development strategies though. You could probably say the same thing about the historic preservation and film industry tax credits which appear to benefit NEO disproportionately.

I guess I don't find this info very surprising or scandalous.  Given that the tax credits are awarded for job creation, I would have expected them to track the dynamism of the local metro economies.  It may raise questions about the fairness of state-level economic development strategies though. You could probably say the same thing about the historic preservation and film industry tax credits which appear to benefit NEO disproportionately.

 

I would agree IF data only how many tax credit applications were submitted. If there were the same or more applications coming out of Cuyahoga vs. Franklin, then there's reason to be upset.

Cleveland is in the running against Denver and Pittsburgh; I hope they like Hansa Brewery Beer!!

 

http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/5062930-74/grah-peduto-plant#axzz2ljBIQNId

 

http://www.sloaba.com/index.php/all-news-all/item/144-saba-business-conference-slovenia-business-opportunities-for-u-s-companies

Cleveland is in the running against Denver and Pittsburgh; I hope they like Hansa Brewery Beer!!

 

http://triblive.com/news/allegheny/5062930-74/grah-peduto-plant#axzz2ljBIQNId

 

http://www.sloaba.com/index.php/all-news-all/item/144-saba-business-conference-slovenia-business-opportunities-for-u-s-companies

 

IIRC, at one point the Cleveland area had more Slovenians than any other city in the world, including Slovenia.

Pittsburgh seems to think they have it in the bag whenever you search more about the story.  Their media is doing a good job covering it.

IIRC, at one point the Cleveland area had more Slovenians than any other city in the world, including Slovenia.

 

You have the first part correct, but not the second.  Cleveland has the highest concentration of Slovenians outside of Slovenia.  Slovenia itself has a population of 2 million though.

IIRC, at one point the Cleveland area had more Slovenians than any other city in the world, including Slovenia.

 

You have the first part correct, but not the second.  Cleveland has the highest concentration of Slovenians outside of Slovenia.  Slovenia itself has a population of 2 million though.

 

Misspoke, then.  At one point there were (allegedly) more Slovenes in metro Cleveland than in Ljubljana.  I doubt that's the case anymore.  I know a lot of area Croats moved to Croatia when Yugoslavia broke up.  I've heard a lot of Slovenes did too, but don't know that.  They've always been a politically quieter community.

Not sure if this is the best thread, but it seems to fit (however dubious the facts of this PD story):

 

Global cities are prosperous cities; researchers say Cleveland must welcome the world

Robert L. Smith, The Plain Dealer

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio--Cleveland's population crisis burst into the public consciousness with the 2010 census, which revealed the city had lost an astonishing 17 percent of its residents in a decade and dropped to its lowest ebb in 100 years.

 

The census reported another set of facts not so widely discussed. Most major American cities -- even cities associated with growth and new prosperity -- bid adieu to far more people than left Cleveland.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/11/global_cities_are_prosperous_c.html#incart_more_business

And... the beat goes on... :whip:

 

Greater Cleveland continues to shed more jobs than any big city metro area in the nation

By Olivera Perkins, The Plain Dealer

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on December 05, 2013 at 12:49 PM, updated December 05, 2013 at 1:18 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Greater Cleveland is on a losing streak. We're not sports. We're talking jobs. Since May, the Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor metro area has lost more jobs than any large metro area in the country.

 

The Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor metro area lost 7,700 jobs between October 2012 and October 2013, according to the Labor Department's Metropolitan Area Employment and Unemployment report released Thursday. The Poughkeepsie-Newburgh-Middletown, NY metro area came in second, losing 4,400 jobs, and Peoria, Ill was third, losing 4,100 in employment.

 

Greater Cleveland, which lost 0.8 percent of jobs in the metro area, did not have the largest percentage decrease in employment. That distinction went to Decatur, Ill., where employment decreased 4.3 percent. Manhattan, Kansas, which lost 3.5 percent of its jobs was second and Palm Coast, Fla., with a 3.4 percent, employment decrease, was third.

 

More at... http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2013/12/greater_cleveland_continues_to.html#incart_river#incart_m-rpt-2

 

The metro's employment growth has been "stagnate", at best, for the past few years.  At this rate, it could be 20 years before the region regains the number of jobs lost (not the income) during the past recession, if the region ever does fully recover.

 

The ripple/spiral effect from public sector cuts and the NCB debacle is still very strong and will be for at least the next year or two.  Still, I hate how the PD keeps posting these figures like they are separate snapshots and not part of a continuum.

The ripple/spiral effect from public sector cuts and the NCB debacle is still very strong and will be for at least the next year or two.  Still, I hate how the PD keeps posting these figures like they are separate snapshots and not part of a continuum.

 

In other words, the Cleveland area got effed by the Federal Government.  The area lacked Congressional clout during that key period of 2006 to 2010.  An effective Congressman in the majority party makes a big difference, and the last ones we had were Stokes and LaTourette (though Joyce gets better as he gains seniority and experience).

 

Agreed about the PD, but they know about as much about economics as.....well, you know.  :evil:

I agree. The one thing I hate about these articles is how they fail to mention that we're actually not losing jobs month to month. We are consistently lower jobs wise than in 2012. Notice how each month we're about 7500 jobs fewer than that same month last year. While that's not good news because it shows we're not growing, it at least shows that we are not losing month to month.

Hopefully it will light a fire under public officials who feel they are doing everything they can. It seems they need spend some time learning from growing cities' best practices.

Hopefully it will light a fire under public officials who feel they are doing everything they can. It seems they need spend some time learning from growing cities' best practices.

 

Perhaps, but you also want to really focus on what makes us different.  There’s two major things:  our position at the southern end of the Great Lakes, and having two of the very best medical facilities in the world. 

 

Both of those require political cover in this day and age.  New York and Pennsylvania are Great Lakes states with Atlantic seaboards that would benefit from choking off the lakes’ access to the rest of the world.  New York already tried this with bilge water standards.  If Obamacare morphs into “single payer” and increasing government encroachment on the medical industry, we have to worry about “aristocracy of pull” attempts to divert medical resources to regions which are “underserved” and/or politically powerful.

 

I could add our water supply to this list, but I won’t.  Not only are the Great Lakes states united on this and powerful enough to prevent diversion, but any such efforts would undoubtedly be hayduked into ineffectiveness rather quickly.

 

Pa. has an Atlantic seaboard?

 

In other words, the Cleveland area got effed by the Federal Government.  The area lacked Congressional clout during that key period of 2006 to 2010.  An effective Congressman in the majority party makes a big difference, and the last ones we had were Stokes and LaTourette (though Joyce gets better as he gains seniority and experience).

 

NCB got the shaft in the bank bailout, for sure.  But the funds from the federal stimulus did help tremendously in dampening the blow by staving off the devastating public sector cuts which would have occurred around the same time.  However, when those funds dried up and the Kasich administration then made massive cuts to state aid for the local government at the same time, it frustrated the recovery of our private sector due to the collateral damage.  It makes the numbers look bad, but nothing compared to what the numbers would have looked like if the full tornado hit us all at once. 

Job losses or not, this region needs to start creating enough jobs to offset losses. Stating the obvious I know, but why can't we attract jobs in meaningful numbers?

 

Perhaps, but you also want to really focus on what makes us different.  There’s two major things:  our position at the southern end of the Great Lakes, and having two of the very best medical facilities in the world. 

 

 

I wasn't thinking so much of end products or themes but rather methods for marketing ourselves, attracting immigrants and investors, incubating local entrepreneurs and start-ups, etc.

Perhaps, but you also want to really focus on what makes us different.  There’s two major things:  our position at the southern end of the Great Lakes, and having two of the very best medical facilities in the world. 

 

 

I wasn't thinking so much of end products or themes but rather methods for marketing ourselves, attracting immigrants and investors, incubating local entrepreneurs and start-ups, etc.

 

So was I.  The two are tightly related. 

 

Philadelphia might as well be on the Atlantic seaboard with its port on the Delaware River.  The region has more influence on state politics than Erie does.  Still, the main offender in this regard (messing with Great Lakes shipping) was New York State.

Expert Crane is moving into bigger digs along I-77 -- a 50,000 sqft building on Grant Ave. According to their website, their current place on Leuer Ave, near E. 110th and I-90, is about 25,000 sqft. I don't recall seeing this posted. Nothing major, but it does show an uptick in construction and manufacturing that need services from companies like these.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20131201/SUB1/312019983

Expert Crane picks up building for its new home

 

Expert Crane Inc., which installs and maintains overhead cranes inside commercial and industrial buildings, is the new owner of the former ThyssenKrupp Materials Inc. building overlooking Interstate 77 at 5755 Grant Ave. in Cuyahoga Heights.

...

An affiliate of Expert Crane paid $1.5 million for the nearly 50,000-square-foot Thyssen-Krupp building, according to Cuyahoga County land records.

...

 

Ironically, these are jobs leaving Cleveland for Cuyahoga Heights, even though they are now closer to downtown.

 

Here is the Loopnet record:

http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Record/5755-Grant-Avenue-Cuyahoga-Heights-OH-44105/Xeo2SXF1w/#

And the beat goes on...

 

Greater Cleveland sheds more jobs than any large metro area in the country -- yet again

 

By Olivera Perkins, The Plain Dealer

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on January 07, 2014 at 2:00 PM, updated January 07, 2014 at 3:30 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - First they hold their breath, then they cringe.

 

This is how the people who follow local jobless numbers have greeted the Labor Department's release of metro unemployment figures in recent months. They hold their breath hoping the Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor metro area won't yet again lead the nation in job loss. Then they cringe when the find out the local metro area is still No. 1.

 

November's figures released Tuesday brought reason for much cringing. For the seventh straight month, the Cleveland-Elyria-Mentor metro area lost more jobs than any big city metro area in the country, based on year over year comparisons. The local metro area had 8,100 fewer jobs, or a 0.8 percent dip in employment, in November 2013 vs. November 2012. And yet again, Greater Cleveland was the only one of 37 large metros - those with employment levels above 750,000 - to post a decrease in jobs. The report looked at 372 metro areas of varying sizes.

 

More at:

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2014/01/greater_cleveland_sheds_more_j.html#incart_river_default

^Yep.  The 'new' data eliminates October 2012 and replaces it with November 2013, keeping all 11 other months which were used for the data to write last month's sensationalist headline.  At least the PD can keep selling papers.  To me, the sadder story is the inexplicable need for negativity among the public. 

^Yep.  The 'new' data eliminates October 2012 and replaces it with November 2013, keeping all 11 other months which were used for the data to write last month's sensationalist headline.  At least the PD can keep selling papers.  To me, the sadder story is the inexplicable need for negativity among the public. 

 

Please explain further. Not following this.

Yes, please explain Hts.

The data being reported is year over year: November 2013 compared to November 2012.  This is the Nth straight month in a row in which which the 2013 numbers were lower than the 2012th numbers. But each comparison is just between the first month of a 13 month series and the last month (e.g., Nov 12- Nov 13). So each month when they re-report it, they treat it is as a "new occurrence," but 12 of the 13 months in the series were the same months in the series reported last month. It's fine to report it periodically (maybe twice a year?) but right now they're essentially writing a new story every day about how the Cavs are in last place.

Expert Crane is moving into bigger digs along I-77 -- a 50,000 sqft building on Grant Ave. According to their website, their current place on Leuer Ave, near E. 110th and I-90, is about 25,000 sqft. I don't recall seeing this posted. Nothing major, but it does show an uptick in construction and manufacturing that need services from companies like these.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20131201/SUB1/312019983

Expert Crane picks up building for its new home

 

Expert Crane Inc., which installs and maintains overhead cranes inside commercial and industrial buildings, is the new owner of the former ThyssenKrupp Materials Inc. building overlooking Interstate 77 at 5755 Grant Ave. in Cuyahoga Heights.

...

An affiliate of Expert Crane paid $1.5 million for the nearly 50,000-square-foot Thyssen-Krupp building, according to Cuyahoga County land records.

...

 

Ironically, these are jobs leaving Cleveland for Cuyahoga Heights, even though they are now closer to downtown.

 

Here is the Loopnet record:

http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Record/5755-Grant-Avenue-Cuyahoga-Heights-OH-44105/Xeo2SXF1w/#

 

Thyssen Krupp is a supplier of ours.  That warehouse moved out to Lordstown, relatively recently.

 

I'm not sure what the headcount tradeoff was.

 

It's pretty well known in local industry that Cuyahoga Heights is far more manufacturing friendly than Cleveland.

We need to stop focusing on such an up and down industry and make sure more up and coming industries that will attract young professionals like biotechnology, medical etc. grow a lot faster.

 

Even though my major in college is communications (Nothing to do with the aforementioned jobs) I want to work in Cleveland after graduation. The problem I have is that I'm getting scared off more and more each time I see these job loss articles, and I know I'm not the only college student that feels the same.

 

We need to stop focusing on such an up and down industry and make sure more up and coming industries that will attract young professionals like biotechnology, medical etc. grow a lot faster.

 

Even though my major in college is communications (Nothing to do with the aforementioned jobs) I want to work in Cleveland after graduation. The problem I have is that I'm getting scared off more and more each time I see these job loss articles, and I know I'm not the only college student that feels the same.

 

 

Which "up and down industry"? 

We need to stop focusing on such an up and down industry and make sure more up and coming industries that will attract young professionals like biotechnology, medical etc. grow a lot faster.

 

Even though my major in college is communications (Nothing to do with the aforementioned jobs) I want to work in Cleveland after graduation. The problem I have is that I'm getting scared off more and more each time I see these job loss articles, and I know I'm not the only college student that feels the same.

 

 

Which "up and down industry"? 

Manufacturing...it may be on an uptick right now but it seems like Cleveland still makes manufacturing seem like the bread winner of the region when the focus should switch to more white collar jobs. I know there is an attempt to get more of these jobs but the effort doesn't seem great enough, the economy is not diversifying at a quick enough pace to keep up with the ever evolving global economy. Just my opinion though.

 

We need to stop focusing on such an up and down industry and make sure more up and coming industries that will attract young professionals like biotechnology, medical etc. grow a lot faster.

 

Even though my major in college is communications (Nothing to do with the aforementioned jobs) I want to work in Cleveland after graduation. The problem I have is that I'm getting scared off more and more each time I see these job loss articles, and I know I'm not the only college student that feels the same.

 

 

Which "up and down industry"? 

Manufacturing...it may be on an uptick right now but it seems like Cleveland still makes manufacturing seem like the bread winner of the region when the focus should switch to more white collar jobs. I know there is an attempt to get more of these jobs but the effort doesn't seem great enough, the economy is not diversifying at a quick enough pace to keep up with the ever evolving global economy. Just my opinion though.

 

 

For starters  is there a reason we shouldn’t be the ones making that biotech equipment, and/or the parts it’s made from?

 

I'm not sure what exactly how our focus is supposed to change?  For the most part, business friendly is business friendly.

We need to stop focusing on such an up and down industry and make sure more up and coming industries that will attract young professionals like biotechnology, medical etc. grow a lot faster.

 

Even though my major in college is communications (Nothing to do with the aforementioned jobs) I want to work in Cleveland after graduation. The problem I have is that I'm getting scared off more and more each time I see these job loss articles, and I know I'm not the only college student that feels the same.

 

 

Which "up and down industry"? 

Manufacturing...it may be on an uptick right now but it seems like Cleveland still makes manufacturing seem like the bread winner of the region when the focus should switch to more white collar jobs. I know there is an attempt to get more of these jobs but the effort doesn't seem great enough, the economy is not diversifying at a quick enough pace to keep up with the ever evolving global economy. Just my opinion though.

 

 

For starters  is there a reason we shouldn’t be the ones making that biotech equipment, and/or the parts it’s made from?

 

I'm not sure what exactly how our focus is supposed to change?  For the most part, business friendly is business friendly.

Not trying to really get into a major discussion about it, I just think in my opinion on us needing to diversify our economy more quickly.

Please explain further. Not following this.

 

Yes, please explain Hts.

 

Strap summed it up better than I can

Expert Crane is moving into bigger digs along I-77 -- a 50,000 sqft building on Grant Ave. According to their website, their current place on Leuer Ave, near E. 110th and I-90, is about 25,000 sqft. I don't recall seeing this posted. Nothing major, but it does show an uptick in construction and manufacturing that need services from companies like these.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20131201/SUB1/312019983

Expert Crane picks up building for its new home

 

Expert Crane Inc., which installs and maintains overhead cranes inside commercial and industrial buildings, is the new owner of the former ThyssenKrupp Materials Inc. building overlooking Interstate 77 at 5755 Grant Ave. in Cuyahoga Heights.

...

An affiliate of Expert Crane paid $1.5 million for the nearly 50,000-square-foot Thyssen-Krupp building, according to Cuyahoga County land records.

...

 

Ironically, these are jobs leaving Cleveland for Cuyahoga Heights, even though they are now closer to downtown.

 

Here is the Loopnet record:

http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Record/5755-Grant-Avenue-Cuyahoga-Heights-OH-44105/Xeo2SXF1w/#

 

Thyssen Krupp is a supplier of ours.  That warehouse moved out to Lordstown, relatively recently.

 

I'm not sure what the headcount tradeoff was.

 

It's pretty well known in local industry that Cuyahoga Heights is far more manufacturing friendly than Cleveland.

 

It was largely set up as a municipal tax shelter for the heavy industry in the river valley.

A little Cleveland love, but from Forbes??

 

Aaron Perlut, Contributor

CMO Network |1/13/2014 @ 8:00AM |5,097 views

How Cities Reshape Brand Narratives

 

While it’s home to companies like Progressive Insurance and Quicken Loans, there hasn’t been much to celebrate in Cleveland since the Indians won the World Series in 1948.  But with affordable real estate and a surprisingly deep pool of talent buoyed by accelerators like LauchHouse and  JumpStart – much of which has sprung from the State of Ohio’s Third Frontier early stage investment program — there’s been a strong effort around cultivating a startup ecosystem.

 

“When I started my last company in 2009, there was barely a scene,” said startupaholic Ed Buchholz. “We had no proper accelerators and only two organized investment groups. Since then the ecosystem has exploded.”

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aaronperlut/2014/01/13/how-cities-can-reshape-their-brand-narratives/