March 23, 20187 yr Cleveland employers offer incentive for employees to live in, build up neighborhoods near work www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/cleveland-employers-offer-incentive-for-employees-to-live-in-build-up-neighborhoods-near-work?hootPostID=36eb109af81d33adc29df5bad6d6c4bb what a novel idea. Too bad the police & fire rejected it What are you talking about?? Although not an incentive as alluded to above, Cleveland and other cities used to require city employees (i.e. police and firefighters) to live inside the city limits: http://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/index.ssf/2009/06/ohio_supreme_court_deals_a_leg.html
March 23, 20187 yr Yes of course. Everyone knows that (or should), but this has nothing to do with that. BTW, you could go back and find my articles about that Supreme Court decision when I was at Sun. I know that case and it's impacts intimately. And yet again we are way off topic on what should be a very simple and positive news story. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 23, 20187 yr Did the City of Cleveland ever offer incentives to it's employees? Or was it an all or nothing situation?
March 23, 20187 yr Did the City of Cleveland ever offer incentives to it's employees? Or was it an all or nothing situation? Yes, after they Supreme Court decision, the city offered incentives which involved a new scoring system for promotions. One of the scores was that the employee lived in Cleveland. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 23, 20187 yr Author Couldn't find a more appropriate thread for this. Maybe the Higher Education thread... however, welders make good money and this could equate to more local jobs with decent incomes. Lincoln Electric opens $30 million Welding Technology & Training Center in Euclid By Olivera Perkins, The Plain Dealer [email protected] EUCLID, Ohio - The Lincoln Electric Co. is counting on its new $30 million Welding Technology & Training Center to assist in closing the skills gap in that industry. "We believe that we can be a catalyst," said Christopher L. Mapes, the company's chairman, president and chief executive officer, of its effort to help in alleviate the mismatch between qualified welders and the many openings that are going unfilled. "We believe that we can be viewed as a thought leader relative to the success in addressing that issue." The company held a ribbon cutting Wednesday for the 130,000-square-foot, two-story facility, with expansive windows, that opened in January at its St. Clair Avenue campus. Doing something about the dearth of welders was a recurring theme at the event that included speeches by officials and tours of the state-of-the art facility. More at: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2018/03/lincoln_electric_opens_30_mill.html
March 23, 20187 yr Regarding cars and their license plates, it's important to note which ones may be rental cars. Just because you see a New York, Delaware, Virginia, etc license plate does not mean the car is actually from those locations. I have to order rental cars for work all the time as I travel, and as goes with rentals, I have plates from all over the US. I will park my car on the street if I have to travel the next day or possibly throughout the week. I knew many coworkers in Florida who would do the same. So just because you see a car with a different license plate does not mean someone is moving into the neighborhood from another state. Not the best way of determining if an area is seeing a large influx of new residents from elsewhere. If it's a rental, you most likely can tell when you see a bar code in one of the windows. How long do people normally rent a car? isn't it for a few days or maybe a week or two? I'm seeing the same cars parked outside of apartment buildings in my neighborhood for several months now. And do that many people rent cars so that half the cars parked on Murray Hill Road are from out of state? Or at Ohio City apartments near where YABO713[/member] lives? And is bringing large amounts of out-of-state rental cars a new thing? If so, why? If the out-of-state plates was the only strange new thing going that indicates significant numbers of new relocations, then I would agree that something car-related is going on -- and only car related. But there are multiple non-car-related indicators involved and referenced in my article. And I didn't even include the comments in this forum about out-of-state newcomers are forumers' gyms, fitness centers, etc. Further, I know most of the people to whom the cars belong.
March 23, 20187 yr I feel you guys are reading far too much into this Agatha Christie license plate mystery -- but damn that's some good grammar above!
March 23, 20187 yr I feel you guys are reading far too much into this Agatha Christie license plate mystery -- but damn that's some good grammar above! Agreed -- but only if that was the ONLY anecdotal insight to suggest a change is occurring. The real estate data in mjarboe[/member]'s article from two days ago provides hard data that something significant is happening. My blog article provides the why. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 23, 20187 yr The real estate news is just crazy. There is no available inventory and when there is some it doesn't last long at all. I had lunch today with my real estate friend who said he's got an open house in Rocky River today. The house went on the market at 6:30 thid morning and it's already got 30 showings just for today. It will probably be under contract by tonight. Real estate agents are having to put escalation clauses in their contracts, something that you haven't see around here but do see on the coasts a lot. The reason is because houses are getting bid upwards and sometimes in all-cash deals, especially from people relocating from California or New York City. Seems like there's an opportunity for some of these inner ring suburbs, especially on the east side, to reinvent themselves. I haven't heard much of the County Land Bank recently but it would be good to see what parcels they have available and start having some real discussions on redevelopment at this point. Cleveland Heights doesn't seem to be having the same success as Lakewood but I've heard anecdotally that Shaker Heights is buzzing. Completely anecdotal as far as trends, but the house behind me (in Shaker Heights) sold without going to market; and they are from Florida. The house does need a lot of work though as the previous owner was 90+ before her kids moved her out. And much like another poster alluded to, the houses that have been updated in the Heights, and are above 2K sq ft, seem to be selling rather quick.
March 24, 20187 yr Welcome to New York... wait, we're at The Edison earlier this evening in Cleveland? So what's the story with all these cars with NY, NJ, PA and other East Coast license plates? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 24, 20187 yr March 23, 2018 2:39 pm Downtown's strength helps buoy Cleveland's apartment market SCOTT SUTTELL STAFF BLOG : Managing Editor Cleveland's multifamily market underperforms against the U.S. average, but it remains stable and strong thanks to "revitalization" of the city's core, according to this analysis posted on the website Commercial Property Executive. Real estate data and research firm Yardi Matrix found that year-over-year rent growth in the Cleveland multifamily market "started 2018 at 1.0 percent, heavily trailing the 2.8 percent national rate, as the metro's population continues to dwindle, despite downtown's growth." MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20180323/blogs03/155996/downtowns-strength-helps-buoy-clevelands-apartment-market "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 24, 20187 yr Welcome to New York... wait, we're at The Edison earlier this evening in Cleveland? So what's the story with all these cars with NY, NJ, PA and other East Coast license plates? Occam’s razor....this is a movie set and they’re filming Spider-Man IV lol. There’s no other explanation.
March 24, 20187 yr Collision Bend Brewing Co. named best brewpub in U.S. Collision Bend Brewing Co. - which has been opened just less than a year - has been named best brewpub in the nation in USA Today's 10Best Readers Choice competition. The media organization operates voting-driven contests annually in various categories, including several beer-centric ones. Beer experts nominated 20 entries in each category, but voting was up to the public. Collision Bend Brewing Co. grabbed the top spot among best brewpub hopefuls and never looked back. Great Lakes Brewing Co. was nominated in two categories. The Ohio City brewery finished in fifth place in the best beer label contest for Nosferatu, its Imperial Red Ale (Space Lettuce from Monday Night Brewing in Atlanta won). It came in sixth for best brewery tour (New Belgium Brewing Co. in Fort Collins, Colorado, and Asheville, North Carolina, won.) The city of Cleveland finished fourth as best beer scene in the country (St. Louis won). The contest aimed to restrict people to one vote per person per day per category. Voting began in February. Collision Bend brewer Luke Purcell called the win "a neat thing." He said the brewery encouraged people to vote, and even had a promotional push for votes at the recent Winter Warmer Fest , which was held this month at Windows on the River in Cleveland.
March 24, 20187 yr ^ That's already here: https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,30589.30.html
March 24, 20187 yr Welcome to New York... wait, we're at The Edison earlier this evening in Cleveland? So what's the story with all these cars with NY, NJ, PA and other East Coast license plates? Occam’s razor....this is a movie set and they’re filming Spider-Man IV lol. There’s no other explanation. No way, man. Everyone's coming to Cleveland to check out our rental car inventory.. ;D ;D
March 25, 20187 yr Some examples of what's going on with Lakewood real estate. These were sent from a friend.... Before, sold for 89k: https://m.estately.com/listings/info/1574-elmwood-ave--1 After, listing for 419k: https://www.howardhanna.com/Property/Detail/1574-Elmwood-Ave-Lakewood-OH-44107/NorthernOH/3981520 Here’s the one on our street that sold last year: https://www.redfin.com/OH/Lakewood/1479-Rosewood-Ave-44107/home/70838002 Here’s one purchased for 80k that is on my street soon to be flipped I believe: https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1431-Rosewood-Ave_Lakewood_OH_44107_M33270-72697#photo27 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 25, 20187 yr My assumption is that the plethora NY license plates could be attributed to the Key Bank merger with First Niagara. In South Florida the Canadian license plates start showing up in November. We call them snowbirds. Don’t discount the observation; something’s definitely afoot in Cleveland.
March 25, 20187 yr Good to see the Elmwood wasn’t a flip. That’s a total makeover! My best friend just jumped on a quad at Fry and Clifton. He paid cash at 15k over the asking price. The race is on!!
March 26, 20187 yr if you moved to cle from the east coast to that kind of housing, meaning you are not no efs given rich, then one of the first things you would want to do is get ohio plates and get out from under the crazy high auto insurance rates out here. if you move the other direction, you keep those ohio plates and address as long as possible!
March 26, 20187 yr if you moved to cle from the east coast to that kind of housing, meaning you are not no efs given rich, then one of the first things you would want to do is get ohio plates and get out from under the crazy high auto insurance rates out here. if you move the other direction, you keep those ohio plates and address as long as possible! Is insurance that much different for Buffalo and Rochester compared to Cleveland? Anyway a lot of people take a bit of time to transfer their plates because of the paperwork involved. I believe this can be complicated for leased vehicles or financed vehicles when the owner only has a memorandum title. I spotted 2 New York plates this weekend in Lakewood. No rental markings on the cars at all. There's my anecdotal license plate spotting. I will reiterate that most of the parents in my kids' daycare have out of state area codes.
March 26, 20187 yr This weekend at my building: Georgia - 1 Maryland - 2 New York - 4 Pennsylvania - 1 Florida - 1 Texas - 1 California - 1 Michigan - 2
March 26, 20187 yr This weekend at my building: Georgia - 1 Maryland - 2 New York - 4 Pennsylvania - 1 Florida - 1 Texas - 1 California - 1 Michigan - 2 Roughly how many Ohio plates? Considering my video skills suck, I still urge many of you to drive the length of Murray Hill Road, from Cedar to Mayfield, and look at the license plates of the parked cars. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 26, 20187 yr what would be great is if our local news media would actually do some research on this very topic and present some facts & analysis. Is there ANYTHING worth reading on Cleveland.com? Not the weather, not the sports, certainly not the local news unless you are roughly tracking the # of shootings in Cleveland every weekend....
March 26, 20187 yr This weekend at my building: Georgia - 1 Maryland - 2 New York - 4 Pennsylvania - 1 Florida - 1 Texas - 1 California - 1 Michigan - 2 Roughly how many Ohio plates? Considering my video skills suck, I still urge many of you to drive the length of Murray Hill Road, from Cedar to Mayfield, and look at the license plates of the parked cars. That was always considered the CWRU campus from Cedar to Valentino's, and my understanding is that's expanded. How much of it is students?
March 26, 20187 yr This weekend at my building: Georgia - 1 Maryland - 2 New York - 4 Pennsylvania - 1 Florida - 1 Texas - 1 California - 1 Michigan - 2 Roughly how many Ohio plates? Considering my video skills suck, I still urge many of you to drive the length of Murray Hill Road, from Cedar to Mayfield, and look at the license plates of the parked cars. I'd say like 75-80% Ohio plates.
March 26, 20187 yr what would be great is if our local news media would actually do some research on this very topic and present some facts & analysis. Is there ANYTHING worth reading on Cleveland.com? Not the weather, not the sports, certainly not the local news unless you are roughly tracking the # of shootings in Cleveland every weekend.... Last week I tipped off a reporter to our discussions on this. And I know that some reporters follow this site. The real estate angle alone is worth a story, showing what realtors and shoppers are going through. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27, 20187 yr Michelle Jarboe mjarboe[/member] 3h3 hours ago A quick, #CLE-centric look at this morning's Case-Shiller house price report, through January 2018. Story, w/ interactive charts, online soon. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27, 20187 yr KJP[/member] per your inquiries, my curiosity got the best of me... I went full weirdo at the gym this morning, and asked 8 members where they were from. 5 Ohio 2 - NY (Buffalo and Binghampton) 1 - Virginia (Ashburn)
March 27, 20187 yr Thanks! After they eject you, you can ask the members at your next gym too! ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 27, 20187 yr I'd put this in the Downtown Cleveland office thread, but this covers more than just downtown...... Marcus & Millichap's sunny forecast: Office vacancies plummeting, rents soaring in Midwest cities March 26, 2018 | Dan Rafter Expect office vacancy rates to head down across the Midwest this year as companies continue to make the move to urban centers. That’s one of the key findings in Marcus & Millichap’s 2018 office forecast report. ...While Cincinnati’s office market seems in line for a relatively tame year, Cleveland’s office sector is expected to soar in 2018. Marcus & Millichp predicts that Cleveland will see 650,000 square feet of new office completions this year. This will bring the three-year rate to about 1.1 million square feet. The Offices at Pinecrest project alone will bring 200,000 square feet of new office space to the market. Even with the new completions, the Cleveland office market’s vacancy rate will fall 40 basis points to 13.1 percent, Marcus & Millichap predicts. Not surprisingly, with all this good news, Marcus & Millichap expects the average asking rent here to climb 0.7 percent to $17.96 a square foot. MORE: http://www.rejournals.com/articles/2018/03/25/marcus-millichap-s-sunny-forecast-office-vacancies-plummeting,-rents-soaring-in-midwest-cities "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 31, 20187 yr While New York plates seem to dominate in Lakewood, we get them from everywhere (someone from Texas lives across the street from us) but mostly from other East Coast states, such as Maryland and Virginia, seen here. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 31, 20187 yr For KJP[/member] ... At Jack flaps downtown and they have a sign in list with everyone’s phone number. Area codes represented on the sheet: 213 626 313 614 512 972 708 606 281 513
March 31, 20187 yr I had heard tale that a lot of the Texas plates were due to the shale fracking in Ohio. But it was just anecdotal.
March 31, 20187 yr Downtown Jack flaps is likely patronized by travelers in the hotel at 5th Street arcades.
March 31, 20187 yr Downtown Jack flaps is likely patronized by travelers in the hotel at 5th Street arcades. Exactly. I don’t think any conclusions should be drawn from this list.
March 31, 20187 yr Downtown Jack flaps is likely patronized by travelers in the hotel at 5th Street arcades. Yeah there were quite a few people who were clearly from out of town, just thought I'd share
March 31, 20187 yr I saw 2 NY plates in Lakewood today on my short walk. One had a dealer plate frame from LaFayette the other was moving so I couldn't read the delaer name.
April 1, 20187 yr FWIW, as I was leaving the Barrio in CH today (drunken leprechaun tacos FTW), I was in a cluster of 5 cars in the heart of the Heights. 3 Ohio plates, 1 NJ, 1 NY.
April 12, 20187 yr Too bad Remesh isn't HQ'd in Cleveland anymore.... Plug and Play makes first investment in Cleveland-founded company Remesh http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2018/04/plug_and_play_makes_first_inve.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 13, 20187 yr An article in today's WSJ says GE may try a new approach to selling its unwanted businesses, namely spin-off or merger with smaller companies with GE stockholders ending up with shares in several companies. The author noted that GE Lighting has been for sale for a year with no takers. The new approach makes it seem more possible that Nela Park could survive intact, perhaps as the headquarters for a new entity. I wish somebody (the County? a new governor in Columbus?) would take an interest in saving East Cleveland from itself. https://www.wsj.com/articles/ge-explores-hybrid-deals-spinoffs-in-strategic-review-1523525400?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=5 Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
April 23, 20187 yr I lost track of how many NY plates I saw in Lakewood this weekend. Something is definitely going on. I had out of state guests who noticed it when we were out and about in Lakewood.
April 23, 20187 yr ^Construction of all types is booming from roads and bridges to new houses, skyscrapers, and apartment complexes. So my feeling is that they are part of trades as all major trades seem to be hiring in Northeast Ohio, in particular construction and steel. I would wonder if we have the workforce locally to handle building multiple skyscrapers. Also Ohio City is getting built out along Detroit and needing more construction and trades workers. I think the pay would be better, the cost of living (vs Buffalo and obviously NYC)lower, the taxes lower, and it makes sense to go west.
April 23, 20187 yr I would doubt it trades, but maybe to some degree. I know there's lot of high profile projects going on in the city right now, but really, the construction occurring today is still not up there with the 90's boom of housing and retail. The trades were definitely feeling the squeeze back then.
April 23, 20187 yr ^^^ I agree Dave. There are a ton of out of state contractors in NEO right now. The Nexus pipeline is also creating a big demand for workers.
April 23, 20187 yr I would doubt it trades, but maybe to some degree. I know there's lot of high profile projects going on in the city right now, but really, the construction occurring today is still not up there with the 90's boom of housing and retail. The trades were definitely feeling the squeeze back then. I have no data to back it up, but the 90's boom was bigger than today's? I never recall anything remotely close happening back then as to what is happening now in Detroit Shoreway, Ohio City and U circle?
April 23, 20187 yr ^I think he was referring to suburban home expansion in North Royalton, Strongsville, Westlake, Pepper Pike, Orange, Broadview Heights, et. al multiplied by the expansion of complexes like South Park Mall. I have no data either, just trying to provide some clarity as to the comment.
April 23, 20187 yr The 90's boom may have been bigger in the suburbs, but as far as I can tell nothing like the current rate of residential construction has happened in inner neighborhood Cleveland since the 1920's or maybe even earlier.
April 23, 20187 yr ^There was a fair amount of private residential development in the in the 50s/60s, too. Lots of postwar apartments on the west side, including in Ohio City and Detroit Shoreway. And there was a burst of development in the 1990s downtown and nearby neighborhoods, but off the top of my head, it was overwhelmingly public/institutional projects, like Gateway, the football stadium, R&RHOF, Science Center, Clinic buildings, HOPE VI CMHA redevelopment etc. But there were also several Warehouse District conversions and small residential projects, too, in Ohio City, Tremont. This is not an opinion about the relative size of today's boom, but there's reason why every decade generates more or less the same "comeback" headlines and travel stories.
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