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I think this mostly just expended info of what what previously announced.  Although GMAC mentioned. 

Its a bit hard to believe that nearly 1000 jobs and 11 floors would come from expected growth as opposed to moving work form other locations (other than the 200 expected from Seven Hills). 

 

I know when this was announced in December, the Winston Salem area was concerned since apparently there was a possibility of GMAC jobs moving from there to Cleveland (although I never saw that in any Cleveland publications).  We shall see what happens. 

 

Great news for this area of downtown though. 

 

GMAC jobs could land downtown

By STAN BULLARD

4:30 am, March 12, 2012

 

Add workers for GMAC Insurance, a better-known brand than that of its AmTrust Financial Services Inc. parent, to the list of prospective occupants of the 800 Superior Ave. building in downtown Cleveland.

 

A total of six floors at the 23-story office building would be dedicated to auto insurer GMAC, while five floors are earmarked for AmTrust Financial, according to a construction budget that AmTrust filed with Cuyahoga County for a renovation of the building. An AmTrust affiliate bought the building last Aug. 29 for $7.5 million.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20120312/SUB1/303129997/1053/TOC&Profile=1053

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I'm not sure where best to ask this and I know this is very general, but I'm not from Cleveland (but it's a great city and I'm rooting for its success).

 

I've been reading the various threads and catching up on activity. My question is that it seems like a lot of activity. Would you say that was is happening is more than previous years or is there truly a critical mass of projects and will it help propel a momentum to compound growth (economic, migration etc) and truly turn the corner (I mean city and metro).

 

 

^I worry you may have opened the door for a big discussion here :)

 

No question that there's a nice mini-boom in construction projects downtown and University Circle, and also some momentum in a few of our choicer neighborhoods, but I don't see any of this adding up to a big turning point if that's what you're asking.  It's not so different from the 1990s when we saw a similar boom in heavily subsidized downtown attractions, though I think the planning is a bit stronger now in the whole.  It's possible that the regions decline could slow or that it could even stabilize, but I think that would be due to larger forces, and not so much to our current bricks and mortar projects.  Just my two cents.

Well, I was going to put this in the "I <3 Cleveland" thread, but I just got a few texts from my old boss in the oil pipeline industry.  He lives in Houston now, but he is from Paris and travels a lot.

 

Lincoln Electric is showing him the town.  His impression of Cleveland "wow, it's like the recession never touched this city, everywhere you look there is something being built"

 

For what it's worth

I'm not sure where best to ask this and I know this is very general, but I'm not from Cleveland (but it's a great city and I'm rooting for its success).

 

I've been reading the various threads and catching up on activity. My question is that it seems like a lot of activity. Would you say that was is happening is more than previous years or is there truly a critical mass of projects and will it help propel a momentum to compound growth (economic, migration etc) and truly turn the corner (I mean city and metro).

 

 

There is an economic boom happening, similar to what occurred in the 1990s. But what I like about this boom it has the ability to instigate more economic activity and create more wealth. Museums and sports stadiums are great, and can create a stronger sense of civic identity and even some wealth, but I do not see them in the same vein as other economic drivers that can create more wealth like venues for trade, ideas and manufacturing. Many of these kinds of activities are planned, under construction or recently built. The more the better. So keep 'em coming!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

For our guest, ohpenn, as you can see Cleveland has its problems.

 

But this amount of new projects is not what I would call a typical amount of developments say a few years ago.  The stream of new projects keeps coming, and it seems there's a new announcement weekly.  It definitely is exciting to see this city with this kind of momentum and to get this type of exposure, even some national media here and there regarding it.  It should help to make the city a more desirable destination for businesses, conventions and the like.

 

 

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Surprised you guys missed this considering all the data mining on here lately.

 

Lake County saw an average year-over-year weekly wage increase of 17.1% ($123). That increase now makes it the fourth highest average wage earning county in Ohio behind Hamilton, Franklin and Cuyahoga.

 

Santa Clara County, Calif. was second with an 11.7% increase.

National average was 5.3%.

 

Mahoning County saw an 8.6% increase which was 13th highest in the nation.

Lorain County saw an 8.3% increase which was 16th highest in the nation.

 

Five of Ohio's 11 large counties saw below national average wage increases: Butler, Franklin, Hamilton, Lucas and Montgomery.

 

Comparisons are made only for the largest 323 counties in the nation.

 

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/cewqtr.nr0.htm

 

 

 

 

 

 

For our guest, ohpenn, as you can see Cleveland has its problems.

 

But this amount of new projects is not what I would call a typical amount of developments say a few years ago.  The stream of new projects keeps coming, and it seems there's a new announcement weekly.  It definitely is exciting to see this city with this kind of momentum and to get this type of exposure, even some national media here and there regarding it.  It should help to make the city a more desirable destination for businesses, conventions and the like.

 

Thanks for the input. I'm sorry to see the conversation go in a bad direction based on a conversation that I started, but thanks again for everyone's thoughts.

 

Look forward to reading more great stuff.

 

 

 

I don't think that writer spent much time trying to understand this city, and therefore cannot understand the complexities that drive it. I've only seen one out-of-town writer "get Cleveland" -- and I wish I could find that article. But it was posted here at UO a year or two ago.

 

Monday, April 9th, 2012

Replay: “James Drain” Hits Cleveland

 

The ten story of mural of LeBron James is coming down in Cleveland. This one hurts. James wasn’t just the latest embodiment of Cleveland’s hopes, he was a local kid who, unlike so many, had stayed home in Northeast Ohio. His joining of the Cleveland exodus at a time of severe economic distress prompted Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert to pen a now infamous open letter to fans:

 

As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier…..The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you….This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown “chosen one” sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And “who” we would want them to grow-up to become….

 

Forty years of frustration boiled over in that letter. Gilbert is from Detroit, but perhaps that’s why he too shares these feelings so viscerally.

 

Cleveland’s “Big Thing Theory”

 

In a sense though, Cleveland’s disappointment was inevitable. LeBron James was never going to turn around the city. No one person or one thing can. Unfortunately, Cleveland has continually pinned its hopes on a never-ending cycle of “next big things” to reverse decline. This will never work. As local economic development guru Ed Morrison put it, “Overwhelmingly, the strategy is now driven by individual projects….This leads to the ‘Big Thing Theory’ of economic development: Prosperity results from building one more big thing.”

 

READ MORE AT:

http://www.urbanophile.com/2012/04/09/replay-james-drain-hits-cleveland/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Wow, the urbanophile dosen't get a city that isn't Indy.

That article would have been timely in 1998.

Wow, the urbanophile dosen't get a city that isn't Indy.

That article would have been timely in 1998.

 

Yeah exactly.  I mean it was referencing and talking about an article from 2010.... 

The "big" projects of today, the casino, medical mart/CC, are indeed two big projects.  However, The difference between then and now is that during the stadia and museum building of the 90s, that was pretty much the only thing going on.  And to be fair, a lot of people in the city thought it would be a magic bullet.

 

Today, we have a have (without going into the dozens of examples) Uptown, W. 25th, the Healthline, Perk Park, Gordon Square...  We now build not just so people will visit, but will build for the people who live here or soon will.

 

Constructive criticism is one thing, but judging a city on google earth flybys and Cleveland.bomb commenters is crap.

But also there's alot more behind the scenes, business creation, capital and expansion initiatives that were not really prevalent before.  these are the things that will set the tone for the future economy and businesses that will call Cleveland home. 

Cleveland Museum of Art has big economic impact, new study says

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A new study shows that the Cleveland Museum of Art is more than a treasure house of masterpieces. It’s a nonprofit business expected to generate roughly $140 million in economic activity in Cuyahoga County by the end of its 2012 fiscal year on June 30.

 

By spending $40 million a year on its operations, the museum triggers a total of $60 million in economic impact. The other $80 million in impact comes from spending by 109,000 visitors a year who come to the museum from outside Ohio, or roughly one-third of the audience.

 

The out-of-towners bring new dollars to the community for everything from hotels and car rentals to restaurants and souvenirs.Their spending supported or created 663 jobs, the study says.

 

...........................

 

 

http://www.cleveland.com/arts/index.ssf/2012/04/cleveland_museum_of_art_has_a.html

For anyone who is interested. I found this report from Jones Lang LaSalle incredibly interesting. Nothing too exciting, but two smaller firms recently moved downtown and it has updates on several large companies in the region and where they are looking for office space.

 

http://www.us.am.joneslanglasalle.com/ResearchLevel1/Cleveland_Highlights_Q1_2012_Final_Draft_03_26.pdf

 

Thanks. Lots of great info in one place!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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BrandMuscle will move 150 to downtown

 

 

One of Northeast Ohio's fastest-growing software companies is moving to downtown Cleveland.

 

BrandMuscle Inc. of Beachwood is in the process of finalizing a lease to take 40,000 square feet at 1100 Superior Ave., which is on the southwest corner of Superior and East 12th Street.

 

The company today employs more than 150 people at its headquarters on Park East Drive in Beachwood. It plans to move all of them downtown before the end of 2012, said BrandMuscle CEO Phil Alexander.

 

They'll have a lot more leg room at 1100 Superior, formerly known as the Diamond Building. The new space on the building's fourth and fifth floors is 5,000 square feet bigger than the company's current headquarters, and BrandMuscle will have the option to take another 10,000 square feet on the fourth floor.

 

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20120507/SUB1/305079985

 

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Cleveland begins small-business micro-loan project

 

CLEVELAND — Foundations and business leaders in the Cleveland area are launching a program to make available micro-loans of less than $50,000 for small businesses.

 

The project with the nonprofit Economic and Community Development Institute was being unveiled Tuesday in Cleveland with the first businesses to get the micro-loans. The backers include the city of Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Huntington Bank and the Cleveland Foundation.

 

A study of small businesses in Cleveland and its suburbs estimated a demand for $38 million in loans under $50,000.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505248_162-57473893/cleveland-begins-small-business-micro-loan-project/

Price of Progress: Longtime businesses forced out of downtown

 

CLEVELAND -- Downtown Cleveland is an area literally on the rise.

 

The first private construction project in nearly 20 years is well underway -- a 23-story office building on the Flats East Bank.

 

But as more businesses are setting up shop in the area, others are being forced out.

 

Some say it's the price of progress.

 

As property prices go up, so does the rent. Smaller "mom and pop" stores either go under or move out.

 

"I think Cleveland has a great story to tell. We have a new convention center, medical mart, the casino," said Cresco Real Estate Principal Rico Pietro.

 

............................

 

Meanwhile, Pietro says big retail companies are now looking at downtown Cleveland to open new stores.

 

He wouldn't give specifics, but says these are national brands that are looking to expand.

 

 

http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/252544/16/Price-of-Progress-Longime-businesses-forced-out-of-downtown

They make it sound like a trend, but they only mention one.  Anything to find a negative spin to what's happening in Cleveland, I suppose?

 

Meanwhile, Pietro says big retail companies are now looking at downtown Cleveland to open new stores.

 

He wouldn't give specifics, but says these are national brands that are looking to expand.

 

 

I wonder what this is all about

^Maybe he spoke to that girl at Brooks Brothers as well.

^smile

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Progressive Insurance seems to have caught the ire of the internet mob.  The gist is their attorneys showed up to defend the driver of the car which killed their customer; partially as a consequence of a Maryland law that prevents lawsuits against insurance companies over payouts.

 

Comedian Calls Out Progressive Insurance for Defending His Sister’s Killer; Progressive Responds in Heartless Robot Fashion

Louis Peitzman

With a title as provocative as "My Sister Paid Progressive Insurance to Defend Her Killer In Court," comedian Matt Fisher's Tumblr post was bound to get attention.

 

And that's a good thing: Fisher details the kind of bureaucratic insurance company nightmare that sounds too awful to be real.

 

...

 

http://gawker.com/5934436/comedian-calls-out-progressive-for-defending-his-sisters-killer-progressive-responds-in-heartless-robot-fashion

Progressive Insurance seems to have caught the ire of the internet mob.  The gist is their attorneys showed up to defend the driver of the car which killed their customer; partially as a consequence of a Maryland law that prevents lawsuits against insurance companies over payouts.

 

Comedian Calls Out Progressive Insurance for Defending His Sister’s Killer; Progressive Responds in Heartless Robot Fashion

Louis Peitzman

With a title as provocative as "My Sister Paid Progressive Insurance to Defend Her Killer In Court," comedian Matt Fisher's Tumblr post was bound to get attention.

 

And that's a good thing: Fisher details the kind of bureaucratic insurance company nightmare that sounds too awful to be real.

 

...

 

http://gawker.com/5934436/comedian-calls-out-progressive-for-defending-his-sisters-killer-progressive-responds-in-heartless-robot-fashion

 

Think I may have made my last payment to Progressive. I'd like to know if there's an alternative insurer out there that, you know, won't be adverse to my interests.

Ten seconds of research turns up this post on reddit:

 

Lawyer here - and personal injury lawyer at that. I was going to make this a post to clear up some insurance law stuff, but thought I would actually provide some useful information.

 

I've run many claims against many of the big insurance carriers in my capacity as an attorney. If you're looking for consumer advice, here's what I can offer: stay away from the following carriers: State Farm, Allstate, Geico, Progressive, Farmers Insurance, and American Family. I repeat: STAY AWAY.

 

A good rule of thumb is this - the more money they spend on marketing, the more screwed you will be when the time comes to collect on your policy.

 

Here's some of the good ones: the Hartford, USAA, Farm Bureau, and Country Insurance. (If you have USAA or can get them, it's a no brainer. USAA has some of the best customer service, most reasonable claims professionals, and usually values claims correctly).

 

I see a lot of advertising from insurance companies that say their coverage is better than others. Here's the thing - they're all the SAME THING. For instance, the significant portions of most auto policies are written by statute. That's right - not by the folks at each carrier - they're written by your state legislature. That means that every carrier in your state is obligated to, at a minimum, provide those basic terms of coverage. The only way they differentiate themselves is by price or by the small extras that you never use (roadside assistance anyone?). If you want better coverage, increase your policy limits.

 

Don't fall into the trap of sticking with one company because you think that you'll get a better benefit from "customer loyalty." In insurance, there is no such thing. What you SHOULD do is find an INDEPENDENT insurance agent (not one that only sells insurance for one carrier - such as State Farm or American Family), and shop your coverage around - EVERY SIX MONTHS. If you have a good agent, they should be doing this for you automatically.

 

Also, make sure you have a good agent - ask around and get a few recommendations. Most agents I know don't know crap about their products. Find one with some seasoning on him/her.

 

tl;dr: Stay away from big advertising carriers unless you enjoy getting screwed when can least afford it. To avoid getting screwed, get a good independent insurance agent to help you find a decent company, or just buy USAA if you can.

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PD:  Exports from Greater Cleveland grew by $1 billion in 2011, Commerce Department says

 

"Exports from the Cleveland area grew by $1 billion from 2010 to 2011, to $11.3 billion, the U.S. Commerce Department said Tuesday."

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/09/exports_from_greater_cleveland.html

 

This is a 9.9% increase.

 

The article also says, which I found puzzling, if accurate:

 

"The Cleveland area was the 27th largest export market in the United States. Cincinnati was 16th and Pittsburgh 22nd."

 

Cleveland's economy is bigger than both of those cities---is this an error? Or something like counting Dayton as part of Cinci, but excluding Akron from Cleveland?

Interesting article about Ohio City's growth:

 

<b>the 25th street shuffle: will success kill ohio city?</b>

 

Ohio City is changing fast, and nowhere is that more apparent than along W. 25th Street. Now, you have sidewalk seating, fine food, and a craft beer cluster that rivals any in the country.

 

Back in the '80s, though, the neighborhood was more a place of necessity. For instance, people got eye exams there, they bought auto parts, they did their banking. But before long, there started to be less there there. Cleveland’s population decline in the '90s took many small businesses with it -- and W. 25th Street was dying. So was its necessity.

 

Read more: http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/features/ohiocityshuffle092012.aspx

Yes interesting article.  Its just funny to read about the 80's and 90's where they are mentioning how dreadful and dangerous the neighborhood was, yet I was interning at Ohio City Development during part of this time and they were fearing the same kinds of things even then.  Nothing like the mere fear of success suffocating or preventing reaching your full potential.  I remember the board members in the community coming out against development projects due to their fear of the possible resulting gentrification.

 

I really dont have too much fear anymore of areas becoming too popular since the city is overflowing with empty commercial districts and run down neighborhoods.  Thats just the nature of the kind of changes that city's naturally see, and as a result things shift.  We have seen it in just about every neighborhood now.(Cleveland just hasnt seen a whole lot of this in the positive sense). 

We can only wish for the kind of shifts that bring back tax base, activity/vibrancy and commerce, and the added safety that this brings. 

 

Cleveland is unique, and will always be quirky in a good way.  The last things these neighborhoods should be concerned about is success and what comes along with it.  At least not in our lifetime.       

   

glad to see Cleveland represented! Shes been a great leader

 

KeyCorp CEO Beth Mooney again named 1 of 50 most power women in business by Fortune

 

Mooney, 57, has been CEO of Key -- the largest bank in Cleveland and one of the 20 largest in the United States -- for 1-1/2 years.

 

She is also the only female at the top post of a major U.S. bank.

 

Earlier this month, Key was rated as a five-star bank -- the highest rating -- by the independent research firm Bauer Financial. Key is one of only two major banks in the United States with the highest-possible financial strength ratings.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/09/keycorp_ceo_beth_mooney_again.html#incart_river_default

 

Edit: i just noticed the typo in the PDs title haha

I really dont have too much fear anymore of areas becoming too popular since the city is overflowing with empty commercial districts and run down neighborhoods.   

 

That's what i was thinking. The concerns in that article are the last thing Cleveland needs to worry about. Much of Ohio City still has commercial areas that are in serious need of revitalization and infill. I think this article kind of shows that people in Cleveland are not used to seeing serious gentrification and rapid construction that you see in other cities where "sterilization" is a legitimate concern.

^ and ^^,  I really can't stand whining about gentrification.

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Liz Claman and Fox Business Network Highlight Cleveland’s Resilient Business Community

 

Written by Gregory Jones

 

Wednesday, 03 October 2012 13:35

 

As part of a new Fox Business Network series called “Open for Business,” Liz Claman is out to highlight the cities across the country that are leaving the downturn in the rearview mirror and are focusing on creating a bright future through business.

 

...

 

See http://www.smartbusinessblog.biz/the-magazine/from-the-staff/714-liz-claman-and-fox-business-news-highlight-clevelands-resilient-business-community

DDR Corp., Forest City Enterprises CEOs to Aappear on Fox Business Broadcasts from Cleveland

 

By Michelle Jarboe McFee, The Plain Dealer on October 04, 2012 at 9:33 AM, updated October 04, 2012 at 9:46 AM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Executives from the region's best-known real estate companies will appear on Fox Business Network this week, during a two-day special broadcasting from downtown Cleveland.

 

Daniel Hurwitz, the president and chief executive officer of DDR Corp., is part of a 3 p.m. block today, along with Terry Stewart of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum; Marcus Glover, general manager of the Horseshoe Casino Cleveland; and Cleveland Indians President Mark Shapiro.

 

...

 

See http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/10/ddr_corp_forest_city_enterpris.html

^ and ^^,  I really can't stand whining about gentrification.

 

My first thought was how much spinoff potential still on Lorain and W25 south of Lorain.

 

Strangely enough, the master plan (boulevard concept) appears to downplay potential retail north of Bridge. To me it makes sense to redevelop street friendly presence in front of both the hospital and Riverview towers.  Especially with Riverview, it should get the same treatment that The Triangle got in UC.

 

 

 

 

 

Why is one of only a few shots of Columbus in the ad of a bunch of traffic on the freeway?

 

It was truck traffic, and you know how important that is to our quality of life. :)

 

Sorry for the distraction. Back to Cleveland.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

They've already added 130 of these 300...

 

 

 

Safeguard Properties could add 300 Northeast Ohio jobs as it acquires Bank of America division

 

VALLEY VIEW, Ohio -- Safeguard Properties could add hundreds of jobs across Northeast Ohio, as the Valley View company absorbs a Bank of America division dedicated to maintaining foreclosed homes.

 

On Monday, the Ohio Tax Credit Authority approved two deals, collectively worth $1.1 million over seven years, to support Safeguard's growth in Brooklyn Heights, Mentor and Valley View.

 

Documents provided by the state show that Safeguard, the largest privately held mortgage field services business in the United States, expects to create the equivalent of 300 full-time jobs here by 2016.

See the rest here: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/09/safeguard_properties_could_add.html

Glad to see any jobs. Would prefer them to be in the city, though. :)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^are these new jobs or just new to safe guard? bank of america foreclosed on thousands of homes and already had contracted folks "maintain" properties.

^are these new jobs or just new to safe guard? bank of america foreclosed on thousands of homes and already had contracted folks "maintain" properties.

Yes. SafeGuard absorbed a little more than 1,000 jobs from Bank of America's operations in California and Texas. These 300 jobs though are brand new jobs. The company effectively doubled in size with the acquisition of the department of BofA.

Not sure where to put this

 

Restaurateur Pete Leneghan looking to bring horse-drawn carriages to downtown Cleveland

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Cleveland City Council is considering a proposal by a local restaurant owner to lease unused portions of the Cleveland Police Mounted Unit Stables near downtown for carriage horses.

 

Pete Leneghan, an owner of Stone Mad Pub in the Detroit Shoreway neighborhood, said he wasn't ready yet to share his plans publicly.

 

But Leneghan, who has a hand in several successful area eateries, also has a history in the horse-drawn carriage business. He owned a medallion -- a special license to operate a horse carriage -- and served customers in Central Park for 18 years.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/10/restauranter_looking_to_bring.html

Not sure where to put this

 

Restaurateur Pete Leneghan looking to bring horse-drawn carriages to downtown Cleveland

 

Maybe in the Transportation section? :-P

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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I've always wanted to see a citizen journalist online tv network for NEO, had even thought about starting one myself.  Well, here is one and I think some of the members on this site have good connections.  Short video interviews or reports (I think) would be a great addition to the site...

 

UNCOMNtv Network is rallying Clevelanders to tout assets: Risk Takers

 

Barb Oney wants to help Northeast Ohio businesses and organizations tailor their news to fit a diverse audience of online readers.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/12/uncomntv_network_rallys_clevel.html#incart_hbx

 

UNCOMN.TV Network LLC is an online technology company bringing together colleges, universities, employers, civic organizations and communities in Northeast Ohio to better inform individuals both locally and globally about what the region has to offer. The goal is to attract talent, business and resources to the region by demonstrating the rich economic assets and the quality-of-life in Northeast Ohio.

http://www.uncomn.tv/home/about-uncomn

I had no idea where else to ask this so I'm settling here, please move if it fits better somewhere else.

 

I just went to Philadelphia for a week and while I was there toured the US Mint.  Not sure who has been there, but it's basically a self guided tour where placards tell you history as well as current facts about the minting process while you can see out windows into the actual mint.

 

Would it be possible fro ArcelorMittal or a factory to do something like this?  I think it would be absolutely fascinating to watch steel being created.  I know it's a hugely different process since the Mint doesn't really get to the high temperatures are anything used at a steel factory, and doesn't have to worry with OSHA and other government standards as much but it still seems like ana amazing idea to me if it were possible.  Anyone want to tell me the first 25 reasons they know it won't work?

I think that's an EXCELLENT idea. Mittal allows occasional tours so they probably aren't a safety issue or a disruption to the production process. I can't think of why it won't work as long as the tours stay out of the way in a safe, protected route through the mill.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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