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1 hour ago, Oxford19 said:

Was this McShepard guy paid for this report? Generalizations all and now, of course, the Russians are blamed for blacks not voting for Hillary...lol. You can’t make this stuff up.

 

Oddly, no mention of black flight.

 

with current inept black leadership like U.S. Rep Marcia Fudge, Frank Jackson, Ken Johnson, Jeff Johnson, and soon to be mayor Zach “King of the Warhouse District” Reed, it can only be blamed on the Russians I suppose.

 

From the optimism of the ‘70s Chocolate City Movement to friggin’ Fudge, Jackson, the Johnsons, and Reed. What a disaster. Honorable mention to Lance Mason.

 

Let me guess, these “programs” will be sponsored by “community groups” funded by taxpayers. See also Reggie Rucker and his non-profit (except for him personally) Cleveland Peacekeepers Alliance among others. Now we have “leadership” programs.

Yes, this 100%. Very coherent.

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4 hours ago, ShakerLondonATL said:

Should being black NOT be a prerequisite in developing black leadership?

How about just being a leader? In THE community. 

12 hours ago, surfohio said:

How about just being a leader? In THE community. 

I don't think these things are mutually exclusive.  However, in a city where white people think/feel/believe that black are "less than" or are all impoverished, concentrating on leaders of color is imperative.

28 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said:

I don't think these things are mutually exclusive.  However, in a city where white people think/feel/believe that black are "less than" or are all impoverished, concentrating on leaders of color is imperative.

Exactly. 

19 hours ago, surfohio said:

Breaking through these limitations, McShepard asserts, takes a leader with a combination of key traits: credibility in the community, the civic world and business; knowledge of the issues facing Cleveland; a track record of delivering on projects and initiatives; an appetite for leadership and the autonomy to speak and act freely on behalf of the community without fear of reprisal or professional repercussion.

 

This statement leaves out being black as a prerequisite. Perhaps I’m too idealistic but this notion that your skin color determines your worth or credibility is really depressing. 

The fact that it even needs to be explained why having black leadership IN the black community is important is depressing

3 hours ago, MyTwoSense said:

I don't think these things are mutually exclusive.  However, in a city where white people think/feel/believe that black are "less than" or are all impoverished, concentrating on leaders of color is imperative.

Maybe I’m incorrect, or misreading the context of the word “leader” in this instance. My instinctive reaction to telling people “you need a leader to succeed” is extremely condescending. Also it’s strange to suggest that someone who is not black cannot be a “leader” or role model or pillar of a predominantly black neighborhood. 

 

 

2 hours ago, inlovewithCLE said:

The fact that it even needs to be explained why having black leadership IN the black community is important is depressing

Okay then. For the sake of discussion what is your definition of a “black leader?” 

19 hours ago, bumsquare said:

I agree. Disenfranchisement based on race is depressing. 

Nice. Did you even read the article? I’m guessing you didn’t. 

On 5/23/2019 at 11:12 AM, YABO713 said:

 

I am with you guys as well... here's where I get frustrated with my conservatives. Liberals are pushing an agenda for climate change that imo will have substantial economic impact in the negative. Instead of coming up with our own, more pro-growth, plan to combat climate change, we say it doesn't exist and ignore it. 

What if it's not possible to have constant economic growth and solve the climate change crisis? Which will you give up? How long are we going to wait before we start actually doing something about this?

3 hours ago, Cavalier Attitude said:

What if it's not possible to have constant economic growth and solve the climate change crisis? Which will you give up? How long are we going to wait before we start actually doing something about this?

 

It is though - it absolutely is. 

10 hours ago, surfohio said:

Maybe I’m incorrect, or misreading the context of the word “leader” in this instance. My instinctive reaction to telling people “you need a leader to succeed” is extremely condescending. Also it’s strange to suggest that someone who is not black cannot be a “leader” or role model or pillar of a predominantly black neighborhood. 

 

 

Strange to suggest or reality?  The disenfranchised and those without a voice, need to hear things like this from those inside and outside the community.

10 hours ago, surfohio said:

Nice. Did you even read the article? I’m guessing you didn’t. 

I did 

16 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said:

Strange to suggest or reality?  The disenfranchised and those without a voice, need to hear things like this from those inside and outside the community.

Well I get that. It’s a good message to encourage people to educate and empower themselves. But this article seems to have a different tonal message and altogether different, top down oversimplified solution to what we know is a very terribly complex problem. 

 

I’d like to get a better idea of what this program really does. My initial thoughts are that it’s limousine liberal approach that won’t get any traction. I hope I’m wrong. 

20 minutes ago, bumsquare said:

I did 

Fair enough. I’m interested in hearing about what you think about the program. Specifically what positive effects you expect it to have. 

"blacks in Cleveland are not going to vote for a white mayor"

 

I don't know about that. The demographics are not dramatically different now than when Jane Campbell was mayor, and Mike Duggan's been the mayor since 2013 or so, Lyda Krweson since 2017, Jim Strickland since 2016, etc. 

 

And Mike White may have got the ball rolling with Gateway, the Browns, the downtown museums and Euclid Corridor, but he was exceptionally corrupt (Nate Gray was just released from fed prison coincidentally), a complete opposite of Mayor Jackson (who isn't a buffoon, just ineffective with the occasional faux pas or tantrum).

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^based on data from the Brookings Report, cited above, Where jobs are concentrating and why it matters to cities and regions   (https://www.brookings.edu/research/where-jobs-are-concentrating-why-it-matters-to-cities-and-regions/). The report has a map of all cities, color-coded, by 2004-15 change. I instead chose 2012 to reflect life in the post-recession world.

 

Change in Job density from 2012 to 2015:

 

Akron: -19% (see note under Seattle)

Chicago:  6%

Cincinnati:  15%

Cleveland: 13%  -- ranked 17 out of 94.

Columbus:  9%

Dayton:  -1%

Detroit: 17%

Philly: 13%

Pittsburgh:  -6%

San Francisco:  30% -- the highest on the list

Seattle:  -21% --the worst on the list of 94 metros.  Akron was 2nd worst.

Toledo: 0%

All US Metros:  7%

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It's not immediately obvious from the Crain's article, but the measure Brookings is using here is weighted density. It's the density of jobs in the neighborhood where the median/average job in that geography is located.  So Akron showing -19 doesn't mean the overall job density in Akron declined, it means that jobs there are now more spatially diffused (which may or may not involve an overall drop in the number of jobs).  And in Cuyahoga County's case, it doesn't necessarily mean more jobs overall, or even more jobs moving downtown, it means jobs concentrating in a smaller number of hot spots, which could include suburban nodes as well. 

^Did the geographies used in the study period for each city stay constant from 2004 to 2015?  Or is each year subject to different boundaries based on where the job agglomerations were occurring?   

 

I also ranked the raw job densities for 2015 for the 94 cities.  Cleveland came in at a respectable 18. Here are the top 30:

 

Rank  City    2015 Density 

1New York, NY-NJ-PA 138,541

2San Francisco, CA 54,375

3Urban Honolulu, HI 51,554

4Chicago, IL-IN-WI 42,428

5Seattle, WA 35,122

6Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD 25,338

7Pittsburgh, PA 19,320

8Minneapolis, MN-WI 17,631

9Los Angeles, CA 17,386

10Las Vegas, NV 15,633

11Denver, CO 15,259

12New Haven, CT 15,000

13Portland, OR-WA 12,978

14Houston, TX 12,556

15Hartford, CT 12,471

16Baltimore, MD 12,397

17New Orleans, LA 11,754

18Cleveland, OH 11,578

19San Jose, CA 11,133

20Nashville, TN 10,143

21Miami, FL 9,020

22Dallas, TX 8,896

23Atlanta, GA 8,641

24Charlotte, NC-SC 8,092

25Detroit, MI 8,071

26San Diego, CA 7,937

27Rochester, NY 7,635

28Austin, TX 7,502

29Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN 7,484

30Albany, NY 7,253

 

Some interesting acquisitions lately. Here's two of them......

 

MAI Capital of Cleveland expands to D.C. market with purchase of MTX Wealth Management

https://www.crainscleveland.com/finance/mai-capital-cleveland-expands-dc-market-purchase-mtx-wealth-management

 

Riverside acquires Champion Healthcare Technologies as HemaTerra add-on

https://www.crainscleveland.com/finance/riverside-acquires-champion-healthcare-technologies-hematerra-add

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

*Comment moved to global warming.

 

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14 hours ago, KJP said:

Riverside acquires Champion Healthcare Technologies as HemaTerra add-on

https://www.crainscleveland.com/finance/riverside-acquires-champion-healthcare-technologies-hematerra-add

 

Crain's gives Riverside a LOT of coverage, which might be more understandable if Riverside were building Cleveland-headquartered businesses. Aside from enriching a few local Riverside principals, however; it's just financial engineering which has little impact on the city. Kind of disappointing ...

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I heard some speculation that Arcelor Mittal will reduce production in the US. It will be interesting to see if the cuts come in Cleveland or Burns Harbor. Cleveland is reputed to be the most efficient steel plant in the country, but Burns Harbor is bigger.  We'll see ...

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Not sure if this was discussed elsewhere but I just got wind of this a couple of weeks ago:  

 

10 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

I think that the demographics are different now.  When Jane Campbell was elected I believe that Cleveland was still a majority white city.  I believe that the voter demographics switched over to majority black early in the White administration.

 

Can someone verify this?

I think so.  But we aren't a largely or overly majority black city, say, Atlanta, Houston, NoLa, DC [AKA Chocolate City] or Oakland(the later two are becoming less black by the min.) 

 

I think the city is approximately 51.8% or 50.3% Black.  I remember reading that somewhere but can't find it.  However, Cuyahoga County/N E Ohio is still overwhelmingly White.

11 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said:

I think so.  But we aren't a largely or overly majority black city, say, Atlanta, Houston, NoLa, DC [AKA Chocolate City] or Oakland(the later two are becoming less black by the min.) 

 

I think the city is approximately 51.8% or 50.3% Black.  I remember reading that somewhere but can't find it.  However, Cuyahoga County/N E Ohio is still overwhelmingly White.

 

It's not much talked about, but DC is no longer majority-black - this is estimated to have happened about two years ago. A majority of the elected officials are still black, but almost every one of them are officials people of any race would be proud to vote for.

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Just now, Dougal said:

 

It's not much talked about, but DC is no longer majority-black - this is estimated to have happened about two years ago. 

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23 hours ago, Dougal said:

I heard some speculation that Arcelor Mittal will reduce production in the US. It will be interesting to see if the cuts come in Cleveland or Burns Harbor. Cleveland is reputed to be the most efficient steel plant in the country, but Burns Harbor is bigger.  We'll see ...

 

I have family that works at this plant. It truly is one of the most productive steel plants in the world, and by their accounts, the union and management have a great relationship and share similar goals of creating a work environment that keeps all employees engaged and happy. It is nearly impossible to get a job at this place as a new hire because they have such a robust training and promotion system. If only ever other manufacturer in Cleveland could adopt this mentality, we would be one of the most productive manufacturing regions in the world.

 

Anyway, with all that said, they will most likely look at a lot of other plants to scale back before this one. Probably some of the smaller plants throughout the US if I had to guess.

1 hour ago, Terdolph said:

I think that the demographics are different now.  When Jane Campbell was elected I believe that Cleveland was still a majority white city.  I believe that the voter demographics switched over to majority black early in the White administration.

 

Can someone verify this?

 

Campbell was mayor after White. As of 2000 census (Campbell was elected in 2002), Cleveland was 51% black alone and 42% white alone.  A very small share of that black population may have identified as Hispanic, but that's dancing on the head of a pin. 

Shall we get back to General Business and Economic Development News?

^Am I reading this right?:
 

Civilian Labor Force - 1,034.2K

Total Nonfarm Employment  -- 1,088.1K

 

Does that mean that there are about 54,000 more jobs than people who can fill those jobs?

^Labor Force = people in the MSA who are employed or unemployed (i.e., actively searching for work); Employment = employee headcount in the MSA [so does not include unfilled jobs]

 

The gap is a combination of using different data sources for the two numbers, both of which have fairly sizable error bars, and the fact that some number of people who work in the Cleveland MSA live outside of it.

^Got it, thanks.  So 1.1M jobs in CLE.  We are approaching -- but not surpassing --pre-2001 levels. Its taking us quite a while to recover. 

 

May 2002:  1087.4K

May 2001:  1129.3K

May 2000:  1144.4K  (the peak between 1990 and 2019)

May 1999:  1132.2K

^At least the metro area is recovering this time. Looking back at the job numbers since 1990, the 00's were a lost decade. Lost a lot of jobs from the dot com recession 2000-2002 and just stayed flat until losing even more jobs in the Great Recession. 

21 minutes ago, cle_guy90 said:

Small yet good news: Borden is coming back to Ohio and will have a plant in Cleveland.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/06/bordens-dairy-products-return-to-ohio-with-a-plant-housed-in-cleveland.html

 

Unfortunately, there’s less “there” there than it sounds. This is more a rebranding of Dairymen’s to Borden’s, and the plant noted is the existing Dairymen’s facility. Not sure how long Dairymen’s has been part of Borden’s, but that doesn’t seem to be a recent development.

 

Wish I could say I was surprised that the above Cleveland.com article appears to be little more that the transcribing of a press release. 

I wondered why Dairymen's milk got replaced with Borden's in the fridges at CVS.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

7 hours ago, KJP said:

I wondered why Dairymen's milk got replaced with Borden's in the fridges at CVS.

 

The thing is, I knew nothing about this either until doing about 2 minutes of Googling this afternoon. Apparently that’s literally too much to ask of the journalists at our city’s primary news source ??‍♂️

  • 2 weeks later...

Robotic lawnmower company relocating to Strongsville from Dallas following acquisition

 

"A robotic lawnmower company is moving its headquarters to the Cleveland area following an acquisition by the Fahey Group LLC in Strongsville.

The Fahey Group has acquired robotic lawnmower subscription service Robin Autopilot, according to a news release. Logan Fahey, founder and managing partner at the Fahey Group, in an email declined to disclose the terms of the acquisition....."

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/manufacturing/robotic-lawnmower-company-relocating-strongsville-dallas-following-acquisition

Conference 'expert' says Cleveland will probably not attract any new out-of-area corporate headquarters because it lost the United Air hub.

 

This confirms most people's pessimistic view that the city will have to grow its own. Then there is my view that the next time airline stocks crash, Cleveland Foundation should buy one. ?

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/stan-bullard-blog/northeast-ohio-needs-its-game-site-selectors

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The out of state CEO strikes again.

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/scott-suttell-blog/viewray-inc-looks-west-future-growth

 

 

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ViewRay Inc. looks west for future growth
SCOTT SUTTELL

 

A Cleveland-area medical technology company plans to make a big expansion in Colorado.

 

The Denver Post reports that ViewRay Inc., an Oakwood Village company that produces MRI-guided radiation therapies, "plans to bring more than 200 high-paying jobs to metro Denver over the coming years" with a new office near Denver's Union Station.

 

The Metro Denver Economic Development Corp. said in a news release announcing the ViewRay expansion that the jobs will be added over five years and will include "roles in engineering, operations, clinical, regulatory affairs and general support."

...

For what it's worth, Drake, who has been ViewRay's CEO since July 2018, came to the job after serving as CEO at Spectranetics Corp., a developer and manufacturer of minimally invasive cardiovascular devices that was based in ... Colorado Springs, Colo. (Spectranetics in August 2017 was acquired for $2.2 billion by Royal Philips.)

 

On 6/26/2019 at 4:15 PM, brtshrcegr said:

 

Unfortunately, there’s less “there” there than it sounds. This is more a rebranding of Dairymen’s to Borden’s, and the plant noted is the existing Dairymen’s facility. Not sure how long Dairymen’s has been part of Borden’s, but that doesn’t seem to be a recent development.

 

Wish I could say I was surprised that the above Cleveland.com article appears to be little more that the transcribing of a press release. 

 

"Sponsor Content".

 

(I'm suspended on cle.com because I pointed out that a story in a sister publication should have been called such.)

This article from St. Louis says the firm Mass Economics created a plan--an economic plan I assume--for Cleveland. If true, has anyone seen it and do you have a copy? 

 

"Since December, the St. Louis Development Corporation has been working with consulting group Mass Economics to develop the citywide economic development strategy. The consultants, who have previously worked on plans for cities including Chicago and Cleveland, will be paid up to $700,000 in grant money to study the city and produce a set of recommendations."

 

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/city-st-louis-seeks-public-input-economic-development-strategy#stream/0

 

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June BLS numbers are out... shows we're up roughly 100,000 jobs since 2008.  The region still has to make up roughly 58,000 lost since the 2000 peak though,  And again, most of those jobs were in manufacturing; the region's economy is stronger now IMO.  Hopefully the growth will continue and any loss in jobs from a recession won't take the region almost 10 years to recover. 

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1 hour ago, Oldmanladyluck said:

June BLS numbers are out... shows we're up roughly 100,000 jobs since 2008.  The region still has to make up roughly 58,000 lost since the 2000 peak though,  And again, most of those jobs were in manufacturing; the region's economy is stronger now IMO.  Hopefully the growth will continue and any loss in jobs from a recession won't take the region almost 10 years to recover. 

 

 

The population of the Cleveland MSA, which was constituted slightly different back in 2000 was higher then to, as well as in 2008. Maybe the job growth will allow us to see some population gains here in the next estimates or upcoming census.

11 minutes ago, Mov2Ohio said:

 

 

The population of the Cleveland MSA, which was constituted slightly different back in 2000 was higher then to, as well as in 2008. Maybe the job growth will allow us to see some population gains here in the next estimates or upcoming census.

 

How were the MSA boundaries different in 2000 vs today?

25 minutes ago, Mov2Ohio said:

 

 

The population of the Cleveland MSA, which was constituted slightly different back in 2000 was higher then to, as well as in 2008. Maybe the job growth will allow us to see some population gains here in the next estimates or upcoming census.

 

Dunno about the MSA, but the CSA count will definitely grow since the Feds added Wayne County to the total last year.

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