Posted January 27, 200817 yr "Parts is Parts"? :wtf: Dohar's - if you need Hungarian sausage, they have every kind (boy, that's a loaded statement!) Why is she so perplexed? What could she be deciding? Well, okay - having to choose between all the fabulous pastas from Ohio City Pasta - I can understand: Over to Orale and their amazing salsas, ceviches and whatnot: Making sure it's just right - I have to say, I'm glad the meat vendors at the West Side Market don't laugh (too hard) when I ask if a certain cut would fit on a Foreman grill: Duh! It's Cleveland after all: I'd love it if they fixed the bulbs in all of these: And back out into the cold - better grab some coffee! Hope you enjoyed! clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 27, 200817 yr Thanks for the great Market pics Mayday... One of the many things that makes me homesick. I appreciate the one of the butcher weighing his meat :-o..
January 27, 200817 yr Ohio City Pastas: MayDay, try the Pappardelle and wheat Grain, the linguini is to die for. The gnocchi I got was "so-so". I like the flavored butters as well. Has anyone tried the cracked pepper or squid pasta??
January 27, 200817 yr You're a stalker. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 27, 200817 yr ^To quote Scooby - "Arf?!?" clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 27, 200817 yr I got the cracked pepper a couple years ago. It was very good... peppery though. (I think I may have had it with one of their sauces which was also rather spicy)
January 27, 200817 yr ... I appreciate the one of the butcher weighing his meat :-o.. Note that this young man needed both hands for that sausage: It's been my experience in just about all past visits that in addition to the expected produce, meats, cheeses, spices, pastries, etc., the West Side Market is well-stocked with eye candy.
January 27, 200817 yr I got the cracked pepper a couple years ago. It was very good... peppery though. (I think I may have had it with one of their sauces which was also rather spicy) I really like their pasta. I wish they brought more, when they come to Shaker Sq. They are very good at marketing their pastas. They say stuff like the sauce isn't the only thing that should be flavored when eating pasta. I LOVE spicy food so I think I'll try the pepper soon! Rob... LOL :-D
January 27, 200817 yr It's been my experience in just about all past visits that in addition to the expected produce, meats, cheeses, spices, pastries, etc., the West Side Market is well-stocked with eye candy. Not for us heteros, unless we're there on weekday mornings. Some great-looking women buying for their restaurants or their family dinners that evening. Sadly, I'm usually at WSM on Saturdays when there's lots of widebodies looking for those fatty Cleveland meats to keep their bodily diameters pushing outward at maximum density. Great pics, BTW. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 27, 200817 yr Continental may not bring in any widebodies (yet anyways...) but you're right KJP!
January 27, 200817 yr Looks like a fantastic place...I'm hungry now. LOOKS?! The WSM is iconic!!! I wish we could clone her but that would take away from why it's just so unique and special.
January 27, 200817 yr One of Cleveland's top 3 crown jewels IMHO. It's in good company with the Arcade and the Terminal Tower.
January 27, 200817 yr Having just finished some sirloin steaks with jerk seasoning (both purchased from WSM yesterday), I wholeheartedly agree... clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 27, 200817 yr Having just finished some sirloin steaks with jerk seasoning (both purchased from WSM yesterday), I wholeheartedly agree... Were these prepared on your GF grill?
January 27, 200817 yr Don't laugh but yes... honest to god some of the best $20 I've ever spent. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 27, 200817 yr Lord. Do you cook a lot? Those grills seem to be really popular. I must be the only person without one.
January 28, 200817 yr Those are awesome pics. I feel hands down WSM is out best asset. Between being out of town and working too hard to make up for it, I have only been 2-3x this whole month. And I can see the darn place out my home and office window. Its killing me. About the G. F grill-does it produce a lot of smoke? I have a grill pan for my stove and it makes my place really smoky, although the flavor results are great.
January 28, 200817 yr I'm actually kind of glad that I don't work (or live near) the Market. It would be waaaay too easy to just stop by with the intent of picking up one or two things and end up with a side of beef, herbs measured in raw tonnage, and eighty pounds of produce I don't need but "hey, they were offering it a such a great price!". As far as the GF grill - most of the time, smoke isn't even an issue - the only time it produces some (not a lot, but some) of smoke is when I've marinated something in olive oil or I've applied a rub that has leafy herbs. It's never been enough to stink up the house (aside from a glaze mix I bought from Crate and Barrell). I know grilling purists scoff at anything other than gas or coal, but for me I love it. There *is* a little less flavor from using a GF grill versus the typical outdoor grill but again - I'm a dabbling cook, not a hardcore cook. The only thing I should have done was buy a larger version that can accomodate two sizable steaks at a time. I bought it when I was single and Target had them on sale for $20.00. And this gives me an idea for a thread... :-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 28, 200817 yr Love markets like these. I haven´t been to North Market in a little while... the wsm and the north market represent the polar opposites of these kinds of markets. love'm both, but they are different animals. findlay in cinci is somewhere in-between.
January 28, 200817 yr I'm actually kind of glad that I don't work (or live near) the Market. It would be waaaay too easy to just stop by with the intent of picking up one or two things and end up with a side of beef, herbs measured in raw tonnage, and eighty pounds of produce I don't need but "hey, they were offering it a such a great price!". As far as the GF grill - most of the time, smoke isn't even an issue - the only time it produces some (not a lot, but some) of smoke is when I've marinated something in olive oil or I've applied a rub that has leafy herbs. It's never been enough to stink up the house (aside from a glaze mix I bought from Crate and Barrell). I know grilling purists scoff at anything other than gas or coal, but for me I love it. There *is* a little less flavor from using a GF grill versus the typical outdoor grill but again - I'm a dabbling cook, not a hardcore cook. The only thing I should have done was buy a larger version that can accomodate two sizable steaks at a time. I bought it when I was single and Target had them on sale for $20.00. And this gives me an idea for a thread... :-) Thats what happens to me. I leave there with all kinds of stuff, since I'm "oh, that looks good, let me grag two or three" type of shopper. Luckily before stuff spoils Izela will make a some great meal using everything in the fridge. MayDay, I'm right there with you. I know how to use a coffee maker inside and out. Hell I could be a Barista easily! However, when I'm cooking I rarely use the cook top and I don't think I've ever used the broiler, but I can grill and steam like nobody's business!
January 28, 200817 yr The thing (other than the produce and such) I love most about the WSM is the true urban flair it has. It isn't fancy, it doesn't have a suburban feel...you can walk through there most of the time and hear MANY different languages spoken, the crowds, the bartering...not to sound typical Cleveland comparison...but it makes you feel like you are in a place like NYC, at least it does for me.
January 28, 200817 yr ^ I think it is BETTER than NYC, which has tipped the scales toward too much yuppie (is there a more up to date word to describe this? A young professional is not what I really mean, rather an outwardly pompous, self centered type person). However WSM has every demographic in Cleveland. It is hard to go anywhere and see that anymore
January 28, 200817 yr ^ I think it is BETTER than NYC, which has tipped the scales toward too much yuppie (is there a more up to date word to describe this? A young professional is not what I really mean, rather an outwardly pompous, self centered type person). However WSM has every demographic in Cleveland. It is hard to go anywhere and see that anymore it's not all like that. there are still old school city markets in nyc. they were originally built by the city to get the pushcarts off the streets. they're still around even in manhattan (essex & harlem). yuppies don't really go to those. no more or less so than the wsm anyway. most visitors have no idea of them. nothing in ny or really anywhere compares to the wsm building tho. nor the breadth all in one place.
January 28, 200817 yr ^ I think it is BETTER than NYC, which has tipped the scales toward too much yuppie (is there a more up to date word to describe this? A young professional is not what I really mean, rather an outwardly pompous, self centered type person). However WSM has every demographic in Cleveland. It is hard to go anywhere and see that anymore it's not all like that. there are still old school city markets in nyc. they were originally built by the city to get the pushcarts off the streets. they're still around even in manhattan (essex & harlem). yuppies don't really go to those. no more or less so than the wsm anyway. most visitors have no idea of them. nothing in ny or really anywhere compares to the wsm building tho. nor the breadth all in one place. La Marqueta is closed. The last time I was there (approximately) 4 years ago, the only thing open was an arepas stand. It showed how far down the tubes the market went and the changed demographic of El Barrio. I think the entire market consist of four or five buildings and it's in ruins. From what I understand, the market was supposed to be rebuilt when the Metro North was rehabilitated.
January 28, 200817 yr I'm actually kind of glad that I don't work (or live near) the Market. It would be waaaay too easy to just stop by with the intent of picking up one or two things and end up with a side of beef, herbs measured in raw tonnage, and eighty pounds of produce I don't need but "hey, they were offering it a such a great price!". Actually, living by the Market is great because you can just pick up what you need, and you can go as often as you want (well, as long as it's open!) I love shopping in small amounts...last Wednesday I bought half a pound of sausage and a small container of sour cream (which you can get in bulk...I can never use up an entire tub from the supermarket) for less than $3.
January 28, 200817 yr I'm actually kind of glad that I don't work (or live near) the Market. It would be waaaay too easy to just stop by with the intent of picking up one or two things and end up with a side of beef, herbs measured in raw tonnage, and eighty pounds of produce I don't need but "hey, they were offering it a such a great price!". Actually, living by the Market is great because you can just pick up what you need, and you can go as often as you want (well, as long as it's open!) I love shopping in small amounts...last Wednesday I bought half a pound of sausage and a small container of sour cream (which you can get in bulk...I can never use up an entire tub from the supermarket) for less than $3. I agree, when I am not so busy, I pop in to shop m,w,f and get just a couple days groceries. the best is you get exactly what you want-ie you pick which piece of meat you want and how much. Plus the vendors love to share recipes and cooking tips. If I am in MIA for long some actually take notice- it isn't Giant Eagle. B/c they do not sell processed items such as frozen foods you are forced to eat healthier.
January 28, 200817 yr ^ I think it is BETTER than NYC, which has tipped the scales toward too much yuppie (is there a more up to date word to describe this? A young professional is not what I really mean, rather an outwardly pompous, self centered type person). However WSM has every demographic in Cleveland. It is hard to go anywhere and see that anymore it's not all like that. there are still old school city markets in nyc. they were originally built by the city to get the pushcarts off the streets. they're still around even in manhattan (essex & harlem). yuppies don't really go to those. no more or less so than the wsm anyway. most visitors have no idea of them. nothing in ny or really anywhere compares to the wsm building tho. nor the breadth all in one place. La Marqueta is closed. The last time I was there (approximately) 4 years ago, the only thing open was an arepas stand. It showed how far down the tubes the market went and the changed demographic of El Barrio. I think the entire market consist of four or five buildings and it's in ruins. From what I understand, the market was supposed to be rebuilt when the Metro North was rehabilitated. i hadn't been theere in years, that's a shame, but it may be replaced by a new public market in the seaport: http://gothamist.com/2007/11/15/a_new_market_fo_1.php meantime, essex is still going strong (although only using one of two buildings): http://www.essexstreetmarket.com/history.html point being its not all yuppies, caviar & disneyland in manhttn quite yet.
January 28, 200817 yr my parents were Manhattanites until they decided to spawn (I still begrudge them, may they rest in peace, for leaving). Anyhow, they missed it so much we often traveled to the city when I was a growing up. My 70's and 80's memories of the cityscape were more like scenes from Taxi Driver than some of what I see now...I do like it is cleaner and safer, but this whole corporate thing has to go...I cannot believe Times Square anymore. Basically the city has too many wealthy people in one place. I do not consider a struggling actor/actor eating ramen from Connitiecut poor, but the way. Boring. Not that I want people to be poor of course...I wish SES was more balanced and the income gap narrowed...But one type of demographic makes for blech and on one end over priced cheese and veggies and on the other having a corner market that only carries wonderbread, mayo and processed food. None of this is good for humanity. To bring this back, the WSM serves us all, no matter where we are from P.S I really do love NY...but it has issues.
January 29, 200817 yr RBCA - welcome to the forum - love your blog, btw! :-) For the record, I would love to live closer to the Market... it's not so much the time or even the money I'd spend there, it's the effect the time/money would have on my waistline. It's like you said, you can get so much food for so little money (and that's NOT including the "produce by the ton" vendors) - I'd have a hard time knowing when to stop. I'm a Taurus and we are all about creature comforts - food being close to the top of the list. And besides, I can't cook too well too often - I can't have my partner expecting great meals every day! ;-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 29, 200817 yr Man. The West Side Market is one of those places that truly makes me love Cleveland. Such a unique place, and such a trademark of the city. Beautiful. By the way, I almost got diabetes just looking at the cookies and pastries and cakes. And. It. Was. Good.
January 29, 200817 yr my parents were Manhattanites until they decided to spawn (I still begrudge them, may they rest in peace, for leaving). Anyhow, they missed it so much we often traveled to the city when I was a growing up. My 70's and 80's memories of the cityscape were more like scenes from Taxi Driver than some of what I see now...I do like it is cleaner and safer, but this whole corporate thing has to go...I cannot believe Times Square anymore. Basically the city has too many wealthy people in one place. I do not consider a struggling actor/actor eating ramen from Connitiecut poor, but the way. Boring. Not that I want people to be poor of course...I wish SES was more balanced and the income gap narrowed...But one type of demographic makes for blech and on one end over priced cheese and veggies and on the other having a corner market that only carries wonderbread, mayo and processed food. None of this is good for humanity. To bring this back, the WSM serves us all, no matter where we are from P.S I really do love NY...but it has issues. well what city doesn't? i have plenty of relatives, including my grandparents and my mom's husband & family, all from nyc and the metro too. i also spent a lot of 70's-80's time in nyc, including living there previously. so i do have a long view. i am somewhat disagreeing with you. if you take times sq as being "nyc" yes unless you are a 1st time tourist you are gonna be bored. but if you, who know better, are going to invoke the whole city's name like that, look at the whole city. it's hardly all scrubbed up like times square. those yuppie/wonderbread/chains,etc. you are worrying over (as we all are) is mostly based downtown and a few parts of the boroughs. for one manhattan example, don't forget a realtor neighborhood like hudson hts is just a chunk of washington hts. the latter is still very much "for real" and attracting dominicans. this is no different, except in scale, from battery park gentrifying up a chunk of detroit-shoreway in the cleve. rest assured the sometimes unseen "rest of nyc," which is by far most of the city area-wise, is still a full range of ses levels and continually varying immigrant cultures. i'm trying to show that on photo threads sometimes. it ain't all times square & disneyland just yet.
January 29, 200817 yr Times Square boring? More like, so frustrating and horrible that I wanna kill everyone.
January 29, 200817 yr ^Times Square - where I realized that "road rage" isn't just reserved for motorists. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 29, 200817 yr I do not think Times Square is the heart of NY! And can assure all, that is not where I spend my time when in town. I just think the city (like others such as San Fransisco) continues to risk its diversity by being a wealth magnet.
January 29, 200817 yr I wholeheartedly agree with peabody. But maybe that's because I'm a bitter, miserly old college student barely making ends meet, and it's a bit irritating that it takes me almost an hour to get into midtown Manhattan because I can't afford to live anywhere but the Bronx. However, ironically, I think Cleveland suffers from the opposite extreme. It'd be nice for both Cleveland and NYC to reach more of a middle ground in their economies.
January 29, 200817 yr Oh I'll be the first to say I'd love to see a little more gentrification around here! clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 29, 200817 yr oh I agree, but not too much to where people are priced out. I do find it hilarious when people say ANY Cleveland neighborhood is "gentrified"...compared to what? A remodeled Victorian or loft conversion does not gentrify a neighborhood by any stretch of the definition
January 29, 200817 yr I agree. More definitely needs to be done. However, I applaud the city's efforts and I have hopes that things will eventually change. I'm encouraged by the recent progress in the city's economy in terms of diversifying from a predominantly industrial one. I think one thing that needs to happen in Cleveland is more education. More people need to go to college and stay in the city, stopping the city's brain drain, if there is one. I think this is a huge component necessary for Cleveland to progress into the future.
January 29, 200817 yr I agree about brain drain, however much more important we need people from other regions and internationally resettling in Cleveland and bringing fresh perspectives and ideas. Both my spouse and I hear to the point of ad nauseum from local (educated, talented) folks..."well thats the way it has been always done...." or "what do you expect from local politics" etc. There is a pervasive pattern to avoid challenging the status quo. Fresh meat ,so to speak is essential . A number of young people actually leave NYC (may even have lost some population), but they never speak of a "brain drain" b/c there will always be a fresh face coming in with big ideas.
January 29, 200817 yr Again, I totally agree. Not only is it essential to changing things politically, but the business environment thrives when it sees that people from local government to its population in general are open to new, fresh thinking. Status quo kills. Any person in business will tell you that. Any business that is open to change and evolution will thrive over a business that is not. It's one of the reasons that I'm very excited about where Cleveland is right now. People complain about the loss of industrial jobs, and that this is a sign of a weakening economy. To a degree this is true, but what do you MAKE of it? It's FORCING people to change. Change is good because it forces the need for unconventional thinking to get out of a rough spot. The government is finally beginning to realize that status quo is no longer good enough. In creating an environment city and region-wide that is open to the "brainier" companies and jobs that the region needs, it will attract the people that go along with that. This, unfortunately, will take some time, and progress needs to made in this direction, but I have hopes this will continue to happen. I think the government wants it to happen, which is encouraging.
November 7, 200915 yr I went to the market today and took a quick pic with my camera phone while my dad was buying some meat. :police:
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