September 2, 201410 yr Looks like a good product that would fill up very quickly in West Chester, and encourage people living there to later buy a house in West Chester. If they ultimately push this development away they are foolish. Agreed. And I'm wondering how Schumacher benefits if the deal falls through. I think you are barking up the wrong tree... Schumacher does a TON of development up there, and does not get anywhere near this assistance. It's not jealousy per se, but more of a call to level the playing field. Interpret as you like.
September 3, 201410 yr ^Eh, from the media reports he's all about killing the development. Not once does he ever mention his own deals. That's why I'm wondering what's really in it for him if this falls through. I doubt he's causing this much opposition just because of antiquated ideals about land use planning. CincyImages, the development will be happening to the west of 75. I'm assuming you mean Schumacher would prefer development to the east, like by the GE tech center?
September 23, 201410 yr http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/2014/09/23/developer-zaps-m-project-west-chester/16109407/ The apartment/retail/garage project is dead now. So an old grumpy guy stopped a developer from adding jobs and people to the community because of "concerns" over how the deal came about... clearly there were other motives than just maknig sure "procedures were followed". Im sure some people in the west chester community were worried that apartments/rental units would lead to undesirables in the neighborhood. Not to mention the asinine quotes from previous articles mentioning "junky cars on the street" and the kids having no place to play... Since the same developer is already doing the AT580 project downtown it would be great if they used some more equity in the core.
September 23, 201410 yr Maybe they'll just bring those apartments and retail to a parking lot Downtown. I can think of a handful that would love some redevelopment.
September 24, 201410 yr Those liberal commies in West Chester put up too much red tape for development.
September 24, 201410 yr Chalk it up with their failed "downtown village". West Chester is Mason's slum cousin.
September 25, 201410 yr While northern Cincinnati is majority Republican, I like to explain it this way... Mason is home to more Wall Street Republicans and West Chester & Liberty Township are home to more Tea Party Republicans. Mason has stricter zoning, city income taxes, curbs, sidewalks, bike paths, tree lined streets and made up of mostly HOA neighborhoods. The neighboring townships lack a lot of these things and are made up of more anti government people.
September 25, 201410 yr West Chester and Liberty Twp. will be fascinating places when infrastructure maintenance bills come due and the cheap construction loses its sheen.
November 20, 20159 yr $50M mixed-use development planned in Liberty Township Schumacher Dugan Construction Inc. is working on plans for a $50 million mixed-use development in Liberty Township. Chris Wunnenberg, director of development for Schumacher Dugan, said the West Chester-based construction and development company submitted a request for rezoning about 47 acres of land along Princeton-Glendale Road between Kyles Station and Milikin roads. The rezoning would switch the property to mixed-use from residential. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2015/11/20/50m-mixed-use-development-planned-in-liberty.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 10, 20169 yr Luxury condos, specialty grocery store planned next to Liberty Center The developer of Liberty Center has plans to build a smaller mixed-use development just south of the still-under-construction $350 million development. Liberty Way Investments LLC, an affiliate of Steiner + Associates, has a contract to purchase about 19 acres from Tylers Place Associates LLC, a partnership between Traditions Building & Development Group and two other partners. Located at the southwest corner of Tylers Place Boulevard and Hamilton Mason Road, Steiner plans to develop a residential and mixed-use project that could include luxury condominiums and a specialty grocery store. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/02/09/steiner-planning-luxury-condos-specialty-grocery.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 2, 20169 yr Didn't we used to have a streets of west chester thread? Anyway, one of the Top Golf things is going up. The light poles went up last week. It's at the end of the "street" of West Chester.
May 13, 20169 yr http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2016/05/12/developer-trihealth-helps-jumpstart-225m-project/84276132/ Developer: TriHealth helps jumpstart $225M project
October 20, 20168 yr TriHealth CEO reveals details for massive new medical center The outpatient center that TriHealth intends to build in Butler County’s Liberty Township will probably be constructed in stages but eventually encompass more than 100,000 square feet, CEO Mark Clement said. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/10/19/exclusive-trihealth-ceo-reveals-details-for.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 20, 20168 yr ^ I can't get the full photo caption to load, but is that a photo of the one off of I-71 and is that saying it's going to be the same building?
October 20, 20168 yr ^Huh? This is off 75, not 71. Across the highway from Liberty Center and the Children's Liberty campus. This area is currently farms/undeveloped land. It's an exit or two north of the UC Health hospital at Tylersville.
October 20, 20168 yr I guess this is killing any hope of an extension of SR 126 east to I-71 - which would be a useful connection towards King's Island and the interstate.
October 20, 20168 yr I guess this is killing any hope of an extension of SR 126 east to I-71 - which would be a useful connection towards King's Island and the interstate. I think that plan has been dead for a long time, judging by the fact that they allowed several new subdivisions to be built in the space that would've been used by that connector.
October 20, 20168 yr I'm normally against freeway expansion, but extending 126 to 71 actually makes a lot of sense from a regional transportation perspective. Oh well.
October 20, 20168 yr The Michael J Fox Freeway, right? I always just call it "the little two lane freeway that takes you to Hamilton". I suppose 129 is easier lol.
October 20, 20168 yr ^Re: OH129. Yep. I know we hate freeways but... Coincidentally, I was bored the other morning and was looking at how you could connect 71 and 75 with what is probably a legitimately needed lateral. I envisioned some way to upgrade and realign OH63 so that you'd have a connection to OH4 between Hamilton and Middletown. The freeway would cross 75 near SRC, go south of Shaker Run GC, shott north to Lebanon-WarrenCo Apt, and snake it's way to where OH 48 meets Miller Road. OH48 is basically limited access as it curves south to 71.
October 20, 20168 yr ^Huh? This is off 75, not 71. Across the highway from Liberty Center and the Children's Liberty campus. This area is currently farms/undeveloped land. It's an exit or two north of the UC Health hospital at Tylersville. Oh yes, I know. I was referring to the Courier article that ColDayMan linked to. It shows a photo of the TriHealth building in Kenwood off of I-71 with a caption that reads: "The medical center planned for Butler County's Liberty Township will likely be the same…". When you click more to see the full caption it presses you for a subscription which I don't have on this computer. I believe it was edited to, because earlier I think it said "identical." I was wondering if they planned to build the same exact building. Sorry for the confusion. I think it may have been edited
October 20, 20168 yr ^Re: OH129. Yep. I know we hate freeways but... Coincidentally, I was bored the other morning and was looking at how you could connect 71 and 75 with what is probably a legitimately needed lateral. I envisioned some way to upgrade and realign OH63 so that you'd have a connection to OH4 between Hamilton and Middletown. The freeway would cross 75 near SRC, go south of Shaker Run GC, shott north to Lebanon-WarrenCo Apt, and snake it's way to where OH 48 meets Miller Road. OH48 is basically limited access as it curves south to 71. The whole area is a disaster -- and that's exactly how they want it. Once when I was a kid my grandfather took me golfing at Western Row. We exited at Tylersville from I-75 (nothing whatsoever north of I-275) and passed the exotic sight of the Voice of America back when it was in operation and surrounded by a crazy forest of radio towers. We proceeded through open country on a 2-lane road toward the famous 700 WLW transmitter, then golfed on a pretty ugly course with high tension wires over a few of the fairways. The lack of the highway connection between the two interstates is just one issue with the area. I get pissed every time I exit at Tylersville and see the hideousness that is Voice of America Park. They sold off a big chunk of it for...a shopping center and still have never gotten around to really finishing the rest. They should have built a 4-mile rec trail around the whole thing, at the very least, then planted trees and allowed much of it to return to woods. Instead, 20 years on, it's an arid, unsettling landscape, and we're still waiting for the building to be turned into a museum.
November 29, 20168 yr Aloft building its 1st Southwest Ohio hotel An Aloft hotel is coming to West Chester Township. An affiliate of Witness Hospitality LLC purchased the former El Coyote restaurant at 9183 Centre Point Drive for $1.2 million. Columbus-based Witness Hospitality plans to build Southwest Ohio’s first Aloft hotel on the 2-acre site. More below: http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/11/28/exclusive-aloft-building-its-1st-southwest-ohio.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 19, 20187 yr The Hauck Mansion is for sale for $1.5 million: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Historic+Hauck+Mansion/@39.2971136,-84.4282562,3a,37.8y,294.25h,100.56t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJxFAAcP5i8EtautpDnAjLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x884051db42faf1d3:0x5eed59399bf8beb2!2s12171+Mosteller+Rd,+Cincinnati,+OH+45241!3b1!8m2!3d39.297248!4d-84.428953!3m4!1s0x884051db42faf1d3:0x717fd1d12520868f!8m2!3d39.2972866!4d-84.4289283 https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1575489/12171-Mosteller-Rd-Sharonville-OH-45241
May 15, 20187 yr West Chester trustees vote to NOT pursue FREE FED MONEY for bike trail: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/14/miami-2-miami-trail-west-chester-grant-vote/601736002/ You can't make this stuff up.
May 15, 20187 yr West Chester trustees vote to NOT pursue FREE FED MONEY for bike trail: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/14/miami-2-miami-trail-west-chester-grant-vote/601736002/ You can't make this stuff up. I like the comment about fiscal responsibility. It blows my mind that people don't realize that it is the sprawling development patterns in a place like West Chester that are fiscally irresponsible, not the provision of public amenities (which pale in comparison cost-wise) like a trail!
May 15, 20187 yr They probably thought that by refusing the bike trail the money would go right back to paying down the national debt.
May 15, 20187 yr Southwest Ohio loves to elect representatives that make no effort to bring federal money home to their districts. Citizens are ignorant enough to believe that they're "saving" the federal government money in the process, and can't understand that their tax dollars are simply going to other districts.
May 15, 20187 yr They probably thought that by refusing the bike trail the money would go right back to paying down the national debt. This is probably the money for bike trails that comes out of the federal gasoline tax, which is a tiny, tiny fraction of the gasoline tax.
May 16, 20187 yr I know these type of people all too well. I had an absolutely horrible internship while in college with one of the County Commissioners. One of the assignments I was given was to work with this citizen budget oversight group way out in Loveland. I don't even know if these people lived in Hamilton County, and if they did, they were RIGHT on the county line. They were seriously nuts, and would pour over various county budgets to look for 'waste', even though they had virtually no clue about anything. They absolutely saw themselves as fighting the good fight to reduce the national debt, while highlighting $30.00 expenditures on bottled water for an event, for example. These types of people are delusional, and really would be better suited to living in the country than in an urban county. Of course, they were completely blind to the fiscal irresponsibility of their sprawly, cul-de-sac neighborhoods.
May 16, 20187 yr Fiscal responsibility is almost never about the actual money. It's about not liking the fact that money is being spent on people that don't "deserve" public money, while any public money spent that benefits you is just fine.
May 16, 20187 yr I know these type of people all too well. I had an absolutely horrible internship while in college with one of the County Commissioners. One of the assignments I was given was to work with this citizen budget oversight group way out in Loveland. I don't even know if these people lived in Hamilton County, and if they did, they were RIGHT on the county line. They were The "Loveland" bike trail was paid for with federal gas tax funds. It was one of the big rails-to-trails projects that got that money when Congress changed the law back around 1982. Undeniably, the bike trail has been a major boon for the tiny town of Loveland. It's basically the hub of the entire 80~ mile trail because by chance the path travels directly through it, whereas the trail merely skirts the Milford business district. Lebanon is on a spur and Xenia doesn't have enough yuppies to have what Loveland has. If Loveland had to pay for the bike trail now they'd vote it down. The exact people who enjoy a property value boost from it who might never use it would be down there beating their drums and getting angry on Facebook. As for West Chester, their great shame is the sorry state of Voice of America Park. They totally, totally blew it with that one. 20 years into it and it's still not an attractive park. And they sold off a big chunk of it for a goddamn strip mall.
May 16, 20187 yr I know these type of people all too well. I had an absolutely horrible internship while in college with one of the County Commissioners. One of the assignments I was given was to work with this citizen budget oversight group way out in Loveland. I don't even know if these people lived in Hamilton County, and if they did, they were RIGHT on the county line. They were seriously nuts, and would pour over various county budgets to look for 'waste', even though they had virtually no clue about anything. They absolutely saw themselves as fighting the good fight to reduce the national debt, while highlighting $30.00 expenditures on bottled water for an event, for example. These types of people are delusional, and really would be better suited to living in the country than in an urban county. Of course, they were completely blind to the fiscal irresponsibility of their sprawly, cul-de-sac neighborhoods. It sure take a lot of gall to believe that a government budget has anything to do with a family budget. Yet these people worship CEOs and talk about how smart they are all the time. These people never say that a corporation's budget has anything to do with a home one though.
May 16, 20187 yr If someone is getting paid $20 an hour to find "government waste" and it takes 2 hours to comb through documents to find a "wasteful" $30 case of water, did you actually save anyone any money? Heck, I'd like to think that even if your're doing it for free, your time is more valuable than the $30 you "saved" in 2 hours of watchdogging. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 16, 20187 yr If someone is getting paid $20 an hour to find "government waste" and it takes 2 hours to comb through documents to find a "wasteful" $30 case of water, did you actually save anyone any money? Heck, I'd like to think that even if your're doing it for free, your time is more valuable than the $30 you "saved" in 2 hours of watchdogging. The Hamilton County GOP gets rich ladies to come down to the board of elections to seek out ineligible voters. These people are such tools.
May 17, 20187 yr Nostalgic reboot of sorts in works for former Americana property Long before the rise of Kings Island's coaster giant The Beast, the Screechin' Eagle flew high at Americana Amusement Park plotted along Lesourdsville Lake. Many Southwest Ohioians spent their summers at this premiere family attraction. The laughing screams that once filled the sky above these grounds have since become only echoes. After several revamps, Americana finally closed its gates in 2002. The brittle bones of the once grand wooden bird were removed in 2011. In 2017, the grounds - most of which were left untraveled through for years - were purchased by Butler Tech. Butler Tech has plans to use build its sixth campus on a portion of the site. They are working in conjunction with the city of Monroe, which recently presented a $10-million plan to convert a section of the property into park space dubbed Monroe Bicentennial Commons. More below: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/15/nostalgic-reboot-monroe-ohio-plans-homage-old-americana-property/612018002/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 9, 20186 yr Homearama builder envisions $200M development north of Cincinnati A new $200 million mixed-used development is set to bring restaurants, office space and hundreds of apartments to the northwest corner of Liberty Way and Butler Warren Road in Liberty and West Chester townships in Butler County, the Journal-News reports. The bulk of Village North – 34.6 acres – sits in Liberty Township, with the remaining 13.6 acres in West Chester Township. Liberty Township’s zoning commission earlier voted to recommend denial for the rezoning, citing issues with density and building heights. However, trustees voted this week to approve rezoning for the site after the developer made “significant changes” to bring those areas into compliance. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/10/06/homearama-builder-envisions-200m-development-north.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 18, 20205 yr One of Cincinnati’s biggest credit unions moving forward on $28M, much larger HQ Toward the end of 2018, one of Greater Cincinnati’s largest credit unions said it would be building a new headquarters. The rendering shows the eight-story, 147,000-square-foot headquarters Kemba Credit Union will build in West Chester Township. The new facility will be a more than $28 million investment. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/03/18/one-ofcincinnati-s-biggest-credit-unions-moving.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 2, 20204 yr Developer to build luxury apartments, with rooftop terrace, in heart of West Chester Hills Properties plans to start construction soon on more than 300 apartments in the heart of West Chester Township. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2020/11/02/developer-to-build-luxury-apartments-in-heart-of.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 9, 20214 yr $150M mixed-use development anchored by Costco, luxury apartments planned for Cincinnati suburb A $150 million mixed-use development anchored by Costco and more than 400 luxury apartments is planned for a northern Cincinnati suburb. Freedom Pointe is planned for Liberty Township in 88 acres at the intersection of Liberty Way and Cox Road, north of the Voice of America MetroPark. The proposed development is just across Interstate 75 from Liberty Center. It will be anchored by a 160,529-square-foot Costco store and a 416-unit apartment community from Blue Ash-based Hills Properties, according to township and project officials. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/09/150m-mixed-use-development-anchored-by-costco-pla.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 9, 20214 yr Nothing says "luxury" quite like a 10-pound bag of Lay's and a 50-pack of Kleenex. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
June 9, 20214 yr I can't read the article with my Columbus subscription. What other tenants are planned? Liberty Center needs tenants too. Or is it just a bunch of apartments (which will probably lease well) plus a Costco?
June 9, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: I can't read the article with my Columbus subscription. What other tenants are planned? Liberty Center needs tenants too. Or is it just a bunch of apartments (which will probably lease well) plus a Costco? An oral surgeon is the only other signed tenant with other medical providers interested. They also plan on adding a hotel and are pursuing Starbucks as well as attempting to draw a boutique grocery such as Trader Joe's. Will the request for a zone change be a big fight up there?
June 9, 20214 yr 42 minutes ago, Dev said: Will the request for a zone change be a big fight up there? Probably not since it is still a fairly commercial district and the residential parts are further back and insulated.
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