November 16, 200519 yr If they build a new DFAS building, it is unlikely that it will be in the CBD at all. One of their prime criteria for keeping and expanding these offices cost of rent. Having a signature building in a signature location didn't come into it. At best, a new building will be somewhere on the fringes of the CBD. I am coming to realize that it will take forever and a day for the Public Square lot to get developed. There are a very limited number of tenants whe are going to be willing to pay for that sort of signature location. Once, it would have been a bank, insurance company, or Fortune 500 that would have built there. These days, all of our Fortune 500's and insurance companies have moved to the burbs, and the banks are consolidating to the point where there aren't enough banks for all the prime locations that only a bank would want to pay for.
November 16, 200519 yr Good points about the Public Square parking lot. I wish they weren't true, but I'm afraid you're all correct. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 15, 200519 yr They may not be the sexiest of jobs but f#ckin' ay!!! :clap: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 25, 200619 yr From the 1/25/06 PD: DFAS expansion worth $239 million New jobs have ripple effect, analysis shows Wednesday, January 25, 2006 Becky Gaylord Plain Dealer Reporter Rep. Steve LaTourette got a prescient hunch about the fate of Cleveland's military accounting office over dinner in late June at the Club at Key Center. The Concord Township Republican and other political leaders dined in a private room with the exclusive group deciding whether to spare the office. The group's top analyst, Marilyn Wasleski, let slip that she thought the Pentagon plan, which called for closing Cleveland's Defense Finance and Accounting Service office, didn't make sense. ... To reach this Plain Dealer Reporter: [email protected], 216-999-5029 http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1138181481163710.xml&coll=2
January 25, 200619 yr wow, the great news around this continues to pour in! my only fear is that they're going to try to build another FBI bunker over on the Davenport Bluffs...
January 25, 200619 yr I'm told the favored site is on Davenport Bluffs. And since it is a federal agency (Defense Department, no less), it probably will be built like bunker. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 25, 200619 yr well that's a bummer...how are all the new residents in the Quadrangle supposed to get their blufftop views if there are walls up all along Lakeside? Bob Brown and Joe Cimperman: this is on you if you let the abuse of this real estate continue...you're on notice!
March 24, 200619 yr Today, the Cleveland Cuyahoga County Port Authority took the following action (from their press release): ...Authorized the transfer of port-owned property located within the RTA loop (on the Waterfront Line) to the city and back to the port for purposes of tax-increment financing. The property has been mentioned as a possible relocation site for local Defense Finance and Accounting Service operations. Also, John Carney was named officially as the board chairman. The former chairman (since 1993), Sterling Glover, will remain on the board as chairman emeritus. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 2, 200619 yr From the 5/2/06 PD: Cleveland PR firm tapped to lure skilled DFAS staff Tuesday, May 02, 2006 Joan Mazzolini Plain Dealer Reporter A local public relations firm is setting up a marketing plan to attract high-skilled workers to fill 600 new federal accounting and finance jobs. Edward Howard & Co. was tapped to help fill the jobs and identify the work force needs of Cleveland's Defense Finance and Accounting Service. ... To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: [email protected], 216-999-4563 http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1146559203175410.xml&coll=2
August 9, 200618 yr Found this website that promotes to Cleveland to DFAS employees contemplating a relocation: www.clevelandsurprise.com. It's not too shabby (although the video looks a little cheesy, but still overall good). I was very pleased to see a) promotions of arts and culture amenities and b) promotion of some Cleveland neighborhoods as good places to live (instead of saying "Hey folks, move to Cleveland and reside in bustling Crocker Park).
August 9, 200618 yr Cool find, and very much city-centric! Seems like a Tremont link should be on their list of neighborhoods, though...
August 9, 200618 yr ^wow why cant that be something to promote cleveland to everyone... instead of the mid 90s "itll rock you" theme thats always used
August 9, 200618 yr Yeah, I for one am going to be referring people back to that website. Beats most of the Cleveland marketing efforts I've seen to date.
October 25, 200618 yr Of course... DFAS expanding jobs here, but most will be clerical Wednesday, October 25, 2006 Becky Gaylord Plain Dealer Reporter A year ago, Cleveland celebrated saving its Defense Finance and Accounting Service and winning 500 additional jobs for the region. But it now appears many of the top-paying jobs would shift from Cleveland to Indianapolis, based on an agency-wide plan DFAS has drafted. And while Cleveland will still get more workers, those jobs would be mostly clerical, dropping the average pay. Tax revenue wouldn't meet initial expectations, either. ... www.cleveland.com
October 25, 200618 yr what a cluster fuck! This is clearly a position where the glass was half full....but now I'm not sure if it was half full with water or shit!
October 25, 200618 yr I'm hopeful this will be reorchestrated. It seems our people are working behind the scenes on changing the plan.
October 25, 200618 yr I'm hopeful this will be reorchestrated. It seems our people are working behind the scenes on changing the plan. Who do we need to contact. I'm calling STJ! I'm pissed. I know people at the DFAS
October 25, 200618 yr I did not expect to be woken up by a series of threads about how the federal government or other government bodies are screwing our city. Between this and the demolitions thread, I'm livid right now!!!
October 25, 200618 yr Who do we need to contact. I'm calling STJ! I'm pissed. I know people at the DFAS Don't waste your time with STJ. Go to Latourette's office. Or Voinovich's. Or Dewine's. If the GOPers lose their majority Nov. 7, then go to STJ or Kucinich. Geez, just listing those two people as our congressional reps reveals a big reason why this region is in trouble. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 25, 200618 yr ^^ I'm usually on your page, KJP, but I think both Tubbs Jones and Kucinich are great voices to be representing the views of Northeast Ohio in Congress. As progressive Democrats, they may have less clout than we would like, but with both engaged on some very important committees, they're poised to be very large voices if the expected Democratic sweep takes place in the House.
October 26, 200618 yr I've not been impressed with how they talk with corporate officials -- way too confrontational for my taste. I would rather see them accommodate corporate interests, within limits of course. I'm also disappointed with their frequency of political pandering. Kucinich talks about global warming, dependence on foreign oil and then bitches about higher gas prices -- even though it's the best way to tackle those problems. He also wants RTA to offer fare-free travel. That's great Dennis. How do we pay for it? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 26, 200618 yr KJP, I'm with you on Dennis. I like him, but he doesn't have the best strategies.
October 26, 200618 yr All I have to do is look at their districts, and tell that they are not very good at their jobs.
October 26, 200618 yr As I've said before, if Dennis would put HALF the effort into recruiting businesses as he does b!tching about them when they go under, he might actually accomplish something! You rarely hear about him getting press for helping a new business to open, but by god he'll be there to have a "summit" if one goes under! clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 1, 200718 yr House cuts jeopardize new Cleveland jobs Thursday, February 01, 2007 Sabrina Eaton Plain Dealer Bureau Washington - The House of Representatives on Wednesday approved a spending bill that cuts $3 billion from a Pentagon base realignment program that was to bring hundreds of new jobs to Cleveland. Republicans said they feared the cut will jeopardize or delay the transfer of jobs to Cleveland from Defense Department payroll centers that were shuttered by the Base Realignment and Closure Commission. Democrats who control Congress pledged the money will be restored ... ... More at http://www.cleveland.com/open/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1170324439208500.xml&coll=2
February 1, 200718 yr I thought the whole idea of the BRAC was to save money... I would gather that it's a rare day when Dennis is aligning himself with a majority of Republicans on an issue.
February 1, 200718 yr Yes, that doesnt make sense to me. It is supposed to save money by closing and consolidating. DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
February 1, 200718 yr And no mention in this article of the prior "piss on Cleveland" news about jobs going to Indy? What's up?
February 1, 200718 yr Where is Tubbs-Jones? I thought she was a big wheel And where is Steven LaTourette? Is he totally out of gas now that he is in the minority party? Other pols like DK and all the mayors in Lake County used to kiss his ring because he was on the right committee, handing out pork-ola in the form of those "earmarks". I have a feeling that LaTourette is "exposed", and I don't mean like in those rumors the Cafaro campaign launched about pix of him going to get the newspaper in his underwear at his girlfriend's house. I mean that he has lost his political leverage and that somebody could beat him in 2008.
February 3, 200718 yr Well, this is not even LaTourette's district, it's Tubbs-Jones's. Maybe she traded the DFAS jobs for her Ethics committee chairmanship. Is that an example of irony?
February 4, 200718 yr Well, this is not even LaTourette's district, it's Tubbs-Jones's. Maybe she traded the DFAS jobs for her Ethics committee chairmanship. Is that an example of irony? Is it?
October 30, 200717 yr Old news from GCP: Greater Cleveland Partnership questions government analysis, fights for the future of DFAS Cleveland - October 12, 2007 - Joe Roman, president and chief executive officer of the Greater Cleveland Partnership today issued the following statement about the future of the Defense Finance and Accounting Service (DFAS) in Cleveland: "In 2005, the Greater Cleveland Partnership, Ohio's Congressional delegation, state officials and community leaders successfully made the case that Cleveland DFAS should be spared from closure as part of the Base Realignment and Closure Commission (BRAC), resulting in the retention of 1,100 jobs and the addition of as many as 600 more. One of the reasons Cleveland DFAS was put on the clopping block was its failure to meet new security standards for all Department of Defense facilities. In response, the Greater Cleveland Partnership submitted a proposal for a new building that would both meet Department of Defense safety provisions and would allow all Cleveland DFAS employees to work in the same building. "Today's response from the General Service Administration (GSA), which acts as the government's landlord, dismisses the Greater Cleveland Partnership proposal and apparently fails to take into account its cost-saving elements. The Greater Cleveland Partnership presented a proposal that was created in consultation with a premier developer and nationally-recognized land use consultants. It includes tax incentives legislated by the Ohio General Assembly, free land provided by the Cuyahoga County Port Authority and a realistic estimate of the costs associated with implementing Department of Defense security standards. "GSA asserts it can renovate the Anthony J. Celebrezze Federal Building, but it does not take into account the fact that a couple hundred DFAS employees are already working in overflow space in North Point Tower. We are left wondering if this workspace also will be renovated to meet Department of Defense standards. The building we propose would be cheaper, bigger and safer. GSA has failed to provide assurances that the expensive rent and safety issues that almost cost Cleveland its DFAS facilities will not haunt us in the next BRAC eight years from now; therefore, we are exploring the options available to us." The Greater Cleveland Partnership, the primary voice for businesses in Greater Cleveland, seeks to create jobs and improve the economic vitality of the region. Its priorities include technology, innovation and high-growth businesses; connected physical development; education and workforce development; and business attraction, retention and expansion. The GCP emphasizes service to its more than 17,000 members; advocacy on behalf of members and the region; diversity and inclusion; and internationalization of the region and its businesses. http://www.gcpartnership.com
June 13, 200817 yr http://blog.cleveland.com/plaindealer/2008/06/dfas_adds_600_jobs_to_clevelan.html DFAS adds 600 jobs to Cleveland office Posted by Tom Breckenridge June 13, 2008 11:58AM Categories: Top Story Since 2006, the Defense Finance and Accounting Service -- a CPA-like entity for the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps -- has added 600 jobs to the Federal Office Building in Cleveland. Another 200 will eventually be added to the nondescript, 32-story building at East 9th Street and Lakeside Avenue.
June 13, 200817 yr Hurray finance! Seems like DFAS would be a pretty bad ass gov't job for a high finance man such as myself.
June 13, 200817 yr Since 2001 how many jobs along with residents have we regained? PD post all the informatin for christ sakes! :x Also, people aren't driving as much so those parking lots are less crowded. :wink: DFAS adds 600 jobs to Cleveland officePosted by podonnel June 13, 2008 11:41AM An unlikely source is feeding hundreds of jobs to a downtown hungry for activity -- the federal government. Since 2006, the Defense Finance and Accounting Service -- a CPA-like entity for the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps -- has added 600 jobs to the Federal Office Building in Cleveland. Another 200 will eventually be added to the nondescript, 32-story building at East 9th Street and Lakeside Avenue. The new jobs could pump an estimated $4.8 million annually into the downtown core. That's based on an industry standard that downtown workers spend some $6,000 a year on [glow=red,2,300]parking[/glow], food and retail, said Joseph Marinucci, chief executive of Downtown Cleveland Alliance. ... http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/06/dfas_adds_600_jobs_to_clevelan.html
June 16, 200816 yr I would also be interested in the actual number of people who work downtown. An estimate by one person is great, but what is the actual number? Also, as more businesses have been moving downtown, and we were at a downtown working population of approximately 144,000 people (according to the former Downtown Cleveland Partnership back before the recession), I wonder if we are at at least that right now post recession? I would assume that many businesses have moved downtown since then as we have a need for more Class A office space.
June 18, 200816 yr What constitutes someone working downtown? Is it someone working at CSU, but on the east side of the Inner Belt? Is it a Fortune 500's subcontractor/consultant brought to town for six months and living in employer-paid housing downtown? Is it an unpaid intern working at a nonprofit agency with offices in the central business district? Say yes or no to these and other variables can cause wide variations in the number of people working in downtown Cleveland. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 24, 200816 yr Pols wonder if local DFAS center is shortchanged By JAY MILLER 2:55 pm, June 24, 2008 Members of the Northeast Ohio congressional delegation are asking the Defense Department to make sure 100 or more jobs that are headed for Indianapolis should be coming instead to the Defense Finance and Accounting Service center in Cleveland. U.S. Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Cleveland, has sent a letter to Secretary of Defense Robert Gates asking him to clarify the status of at least 100 DFAS employees now located in Kansas City and Denver. More at: PRINTED FROM: http://crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080624/FREE/289545096/1099&Profile=1099&template=printart
October 15, 200816 yr More good news regarding DFAS! Defense agency keeps growing in downtown Cleveland -- to 2,011 jobs by 2011 Posted by Stephen Koff/Plain Dealer Washington Bureau Chief October 15, 2008 18:12PM Categories: Breaking News, Business Impact, Open, Real Time News Cleveland's federal payroll center, which in 2005 had nearly 1,200 white-collar jobs, will expand its Cleveland workforce to 2,011 employees by the year 2011, official are expected to announce Thursday. The announcement is a stark reversal from 2005, when civic and political leaders feared that DFAS, which handles payroll, pension and benefits processing for the Pentagon, would leave Cleveland. The Pentagon was examining ways to consolidate some of its military bases and offices across the country, and initial projections showed the Cleveland civilian center to be too expensive. ... www.cleveland.com
October 16, 200816 yr Good news. The question is, does the federal building have room for all these new employees? I have no idea what vacancies exist there. If it does, then GSA (Government Services Administration -- which handles federal properties) will work with what it has. But if it doesn't, then a renovated or new building might be needed. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 200816 yr There is enough room for everyone here, but I think the building is just about at capacity. I know a few people on other floors that are sharing cubicles with people. DFAS is already leasing space over at the Northpoint building, but that's only temporary while a couple floors are being rehabbed. Some of the Marine corps people are already working here, though at the moment they are working out of cubicles made from what used to be the 25th floor conference room.
October 16, 200816 yr There is no way this building can handle 800 more people. There is only one floor available to rehab and that's supposed to be for the 200 or so people presently at North Point.
October 16, 200816 yr ^Anyone who wants to share some space next door in the Penton building, just let me know - normally I'd charge $1000 a square foot but I'll cut ya a deal! ;-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
October 16, 200816 yr There is no way this building can handle 800 more people. There is only one floor available to rehab and that's supposed to be for the 200 or so people presently at North Point. It should be only 200 more, with a total of 800-ish (600 already added..?)
October 16, 200816 yr ^Correct, the 600ish have been here a while. I'm one of them and have been here a year and a half. And a portion of the 200ish newer jobs have been here for a few months. While its always nice to see new jobs come to Cleveland, this is particularly nice as the Federal Government has a pretty nice percentage of people that use public transit. (Of course your federal taxes pay for us to get monthly passes, but hey, that's still a few more people using RTA and Laketran.)
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