Green areas are proposed housing, blue is under construction, yellow is completed, and red is the original downtown housing.

<img src="http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/harborshow/images/Slide34.jpg">

 

Three new districts will be in place when the lakefront development is finished

<img src="http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/harborshow/images/Slide35.jpg">

 

Near term and long term plans for the harbor front

<img src="http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/harborshow/images/Slide41.jpg">

 

The Harbor Campus District

<img src="http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/harborshow/images/Slide43.jpg">

 

btw the new ferry could possibly look like this

<img src="http://zaceman.com/cleveferry.jpg">

 

The new main street called "Rock'n'Roll Blvd" with street cars in the center lanes. (not sure if ODOT is going to support the street cars, but we'll see)

<img src="http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/harborshow/images/Slide45.jpg">

 

 

The final look to the downtown residential districts

<img src="http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/harborshow/images/Slide75.jpg">

 

Cleveland needs this more than it needs anything else.  While only about half of the lakefront will be developed in the near future its still a major asset to keep this city alive.  3 new downtown districts would spur so much more growth in the city.

Dear Lord. Those look fantastic.

rock 'n' blvd, i'm going to vomit

 

 

 

also, have fun buying even more up from the port of cleveland, lets see how that goes.........

i think thats going to be the tourist street that leads to north coast harbor... lol

 

See what i dont inderstand is why they dont expand eastward towards Burk Lakefront Airport. Theres huge pieces of land (and parts being filled in) around the small craft run ways(to the north of them, not in the plane's path or anything) . It isnt like its a noisy airport... heh unless you count SkyFox lifting off from there every morning...

Council OKs deal to take dock for public space

Thursday, August 12, 2004

Olivera Perkins

 

Cleveland City Council Wednesday approved a deal with the port authority that allows Mayor Jane Campbell to move forward with her plan to redevelop Cleveland's lakefront.

 

The lease arrangement with the Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority allows the city to turn Dock 32, just north of Cleveland Browns Stadium, into public space.

 

City Council last month put off a vote on the deal after the longshoremen's union argued that losing a dock would reduce storage space and lead to fewer ships coming to Cleveland.

 

But city officials and the director of the Port Authority have said there would be enough space for cargo, even after eliminating Dock 32...

http://zaceman.com/LJ/6-23-04/ferry2.jpg">

 

well good, i was hoping this lakefront area would be developed. Theres just a surface lot and a underused warehouse just sitting there. I hope more than a park comes of this since theres so much land. Arent condos planned for this? They should build some 30+ story condos right behind the browns stadium. That would be awesome.

check this out: http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/harborshow/Slide01.html

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/edgewater/Slide01.html

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/kirtlandshow/Slide01.html

y'all should check out FerrariEnzos links. Cleveland has a really aggressive planning effort underway for its waterfront.

 

If they pull it off Cleveland should easily equal Chicago and Milwaulkee for a nice parklike lakefront (I see they are using Milwaulkee as a model a bit).

I hate this reporter.  his articles are pessimistic as hell and in his picutre he looks like a smug sob.

 

Lakefront plan has many flaws

Sunday, October 24, 2004

 

After working more than two years and consuming many yards of yellow tracing paper, a team of consultants is nearly finished with the first major plan for Cleveland's lakefront in half a century.

 

We should be ecstatic, right? Well, sorry, but this is not the moment of elation it should be.

 

   

The plan, which is headed for one more round of public hearings in November before heading to the City Planning Commission and City Council for approval and adoption, isn't a disaster.

 

But it's hardly a triumph, either...

I'd like to see the plan on which he's commenting before I comment.

I'll say this much about Steven Litt:

 

1. I've made attempts to contact him but he never returns emails. For someone who writes that not enough "young" (aka under 60) people care about Cleveland's built environment, you'd think he'd be proactive to contact those of us who give a rat's ass.

 

2. Paul_In_Cleveland from SSP sent him an email for info to help his "Downtown Cleveland Building Projects" site - Litt chastized him and asked him if he contacted the PD for permission to use the images of the projects.

 

3. Comes off as smug in his articles? Yeah, I suppose he does.

 

But, having said all that, he's grown on me - I've learned to appreciate the fact that he does try to get Clevelanders out of the "well, we can't demand too much - after all, this IS Cleveland" mentality. As far as this article, I'd say he makes good points about moving the port just to move it. I think that a lot of thought has gone into the lakefront near downtown, but that the areas near Edgewater are treated like afterthoughts - I mean, putting the port (with all the truck traffic) on a 35mph boulevard?

http://www.cleveland.com/news/wide/11lakefront07.gif">

 

This is the only district that will be both on the west and east sides. Lots of potential, but its shitty that this is gonna take decades, if it ever gets completely finished

i like the man made island, caught this in the pd haven't read it though

So do i, but i want a damn breakwall beach too. maybe in the next lakefront plan of 2050

Like that article I psoted? Yeah that woudl be super neat. But lets see some of this materialize and I will be happy.

What are the components to Cleveland's lakefront plan? How much will it cost? Are there renderings? Is it like Chicago's lakefront? Will it happen or not in your opinion?

^ http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=902.0

Here's a couple of other links. The first is the city's page about it, including PowerPoint presentations of what is being considered. The second is from the PD, offering news updates and analysis of the plan plus more graphics.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/cpc.html

 

http://www.cleveland.com/lakefront/

 

KJP

Thanks for the links guys. :-)

I saw an interesting blurb in the news today about the new sewer project. It says that we will be digging new tunnels and that we will have enough dirt to fill dump trucks that would form a chain from Cleveland to Seattle.  Ronayne says that he hopes to use the dirt to fill in parts of the lake for the park extensions that were proposed by the new lakefront plan.  The article didn't say that a deal was completed to use the dirt in such a fashion.  Anyways, I am glad that there is hope for those plans.

Heads up!  Sneak preview of Whiskey Island park!!!

 

http://lists.topica.com/lists/[email protected]/read/message.html?mid=810994357

Did anyone go??

Here's a link to another thread on the subject, with an article from today's PD:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=2819.0;topicseen

Are both threads about the same thing?  They can be merged if you guys want.

yeah, pretty much...

TODAY!!!

 

Lakefront Plan Advisory Committee Members & Friends:

 

Envision a city where one can easily reach down and touch the water…..

 

Thanks to all of you, that will soon be our own City of Cleveland. 

 

After numerous public engagements that generated thousands of comments from the community, the time has come to unveil Cleveland’s Waterfront District Plan documentation in its final poster format.  You are invited to join Mayor Campbell and the Waterfront District Planning Team for a Press Conference to be held on Tuesday, September 20th at 11:30 AM on Strawbridge Plaza (formerly Mall C) next to City Hall.

 

Thanks to each and every one of you, we have not only conceived a way to connect our citizens to the water, but a way to connect our city with its future.

 

Please join us to share in this momentous occasion, which will feature a special announcement regarding Cleveland’s Waterfront District Plan.

 

Debbie Berry, PE

Lakefront Plan Manager

Cleveland City Planning

It's getting harder and harder to not view these unveilings as "Look what Mayor Campbell did, and don't forget to vote!" events, but good news is good news even if it's not really "news," I guess.

I understand what you mean...but it's still exciting!  The real stuff will come into play at the debates that have been taking place at least once a week.  The next one's tomorrow at the Levin College Forum at CSU.

 

Unfortunately, I forgot my camera today, so there will be no pics from me from this "announcement."  I'll post my review, though, once I get back!

As suspected, not much new news here, but there were lots of numbers thrown around about how much has already been spent in developments (public and private) related to the waterfront, as well as projected dollars involving projects on the table.  The plan is being touted as the primary tool to use when the city wants to pursue federal, state and foundation funding for projects such as the lakefront boulevard, waterfront parks, etc.

 

Of note: the Mather will be setting sail for the other side of North Coast Harbor this weekend (Saturday at 10am, I believe) and the Waterfront District Plan was honored with a very distinguished award this weekend by some Ohio architecture group.  Paul Volpe (City Architecture) presented the award to the Mayor and her staff at the end of the presentation.

 

Also, there's a fancy new printed version of the Lakefront Plan that should be available through the Planning Commission.  Check http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/lakefront/ for more info...

It's getting harder and harder to not view these unveilings as "Look what Mayor Campbell did, and don't forget to vote!" events, but good news is good news even if it's not really "news," I guess.

 

I think it is appropriate to take credit for things that are genuinely products of her ideas and work. 

this plan looks interesting, and i give them a lot of credit for putting together a comprehensive, good looking presentation.

 

2 concerns that immediately struck me.

 

1) this is a future roadmap, yet it isn't very ambitious in many areas.  although expanding on dock 32 and surrounding area makes a lot of sense, i'm disappointed that there isn't more of a push for high rise residential anywhere on this plan.  Everything along the lake looks like 4 or 5 stories.  although this might be what is ultimately built, if we are going to be successful as a city, i'd hope that a few residential towers would be part of the "plan", whether they ultimately come to fruition.

 

2) transit connections.  from the looks of this plan, the new development isn't that close to the proposed new stations on expanded waterfront line.  again, this is just a "plan", however with all of the talk about TOD, and lessons learned from past rail extensions, i'm a little surprised to see what i consider to be the same, failing philosophy about station location.  where was joe c during the planning here??

I agree, urbanlife.  In many ways the plan is too conservative.  I think that once people get a taste of what urban waterfront living can be, the demand will be much higher than they projected.  That's the problem with doing market studies on a product that doesn't exist yet.  People have a very hard time imagining things, especially huge comprehensive remakings of an environment.

I don't think the plan is conservative at all!  I think it's very ambitious to take a grouping of land this large and try to master plan it as they've done.  It was a HUGE undertaking!  The drawings and shapes and heights of buildings are all very hypothetical.  There's nothing saying that a developer can't propose a taller structure in any of those places...unless zoning prohibits it...but I have a feeling that the City is going to be looking for investment and will do zoning changes or variances wherever necessary. 

I meant conservative in the number of units they are proposing.  Of course that number can always go up, but I'd hate to see the whole lakefront be developed at a relatively low density (to what it could support) and then run out of land to develop more without having to tear into things.  But yes, the Lakefront Plan as a whole is one of the most ambitious undertakings I know of.  Certainly the most ambitious in Greater Cleveland.

CLEVELAND - Mayor Jane Campbell unveiled new sketches and updated progress on the city's plan to remake the lakefront.

Campbell is updating efforts to bring Clevelanders to the water.

 

$100 million has already spent on projects like the Key 55 housing complex and walkways near Voinovich Park.

 

Waterfront living at Battery Park and plans to make the west Shoreway a boulevard are moving along.

 

And, the Mather Shipping Museum's is moving this weekend. It will dock next to the science center.

 

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=41033

 

 

 

did they mean Quay 55????

"Quay" is pronounced "key."  This was the press conference I wrote about on September 20th...more details on the city's website!

There will be a design subcommittee meeting on the Shoreway project coming up at 8 a.m. Wednesday on the access points. It will be held at City Hall, in Room 6 in the basement. The public is invited to attend.

 

Subcommittee members are debating where the access points should be on the reconfigured Shoreway. As many of you know, the Shoreway will become a reduced speed boulevard with intersections, landscaping etc.

 

For more information, go to http://www.innerbelt.org/Lakefrontwest/Lakefronthome.htm

I could not make it to this.

Did anybody go? Any info?

 

 

From the April 26th minutes, posted on the Innerbelt Lakefront ODOT page:

 

http://www.innerbelt.org/Lakefrontwest/Lakefronthome.htm

 

 

Litt Blog:

 

Cleveland picks strong team to design North Coast Harbor pedestrian bridge

Posted by Steven Litt

August 27, 2007 17:11PM

 

 

Local governments rarely reach for pathbreaking design excellence when they hire architects and engineers. But the first highly visible project launched by Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson since he took office in January could be a departure from the norm.

 

Last week, a selection committee composed of city officials picked a design team with real international firepower to design a proposed $6.1 million pedestrian bridge at North Coast Harbor in downtown Cleveland...

 

More at: http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2007/08/_local_governments_rarely_reac.html

oh, a curvy suspension bridge, how fun.

Excellent selection Frank Jackson.  Impressive that the city FINALLY recognizes the importantance of design.

You know, for someone in the architecture field and a person who lives in the Cleveland region, you sure portray in image of ignorance when a firm, team or design does not meet your standards. I am sure I do not have to explain the public bidding process to you that is required by law.

 

Excellent selection Frank Jackson.  Impressive that the city FINALLY recognizes the importantance of design.

 

Thank you. :) I agree. I'm excited about this project.

You know, for someone in the architecture field and a person who lives in the Cleveland region, you sure portray in image of ignorance when a firm, team or design does not meet your standards. I am sure I do not have to explain the public bidding process to you that is required by law.

 

 

Why don't you go ahead and reread my post musky.  I think this will be a GOOD project because they chose a designer based on skills, not political connections or a misguided architect selection, and I applaud Frank Jackson for this.  Not sure what crawled up your ass, but this isn't the thread to be lecturing me on my negative opinions of local architecture.  I'm down for this one.  Just because the selection process is flawed into being forced to use the lowest bidder for public projects, that is no excuse for subpar design.  If you and CSU want to continue accepting C+ architecture, that's your problem.  Not sure why you brought this up here, but the negative side of my opions is recently reserved for the CSU Student Center, we can chat over on that thread if you'd like to continue your thoughts on what you think I should think good design is, and my personal compitency level.  Check that, I couldn't give a damn what you think.

um, yeah for the bridge!

I do not question what you think is good design. And usually I agree with you.

I get upset when you blame the city, CSU, other public agency for picking a design that is more often then not, chosen due to legal reasons.

 

If Joe's Floor Refinishing and Bridge Design Company out bids a firm founded by DaVinci, then we have to accept that process and the design that comes with it, or change the process. That process is currently in the hands of those downstate. Don't like it? Change it!

 

And btw, I have made my dislike of the student center clear in the CSU thread - and I have no say in what IS chosen, that would be... THE PROCESS

^Design issues aside, there are sound public policy reasons begin the bidding process on public projects.  Among other things, to protect taxpayer pocket books and hopefully prevent fraud and collusion.  These statutes are nationwide and were years in the making.