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2 hours ago, cadmen said:

That's a lot of development costing a lot of money. Maybe a saving grace in building an open air stadium is the money saved can go to that development because if a dome costs 2 billion plus where is the additional money coming from for lakefront development? 

I hate to keep harping on it, but yet another reason to move the practice facilities downtown.   There could be practice fields on top of parking (and even use the stadium field itself when they need extra space).   The Browns offices could be attached to mixed-use buildings helping anchor the complex.   

 

No offense to Berea as it is a lovely little bedroom/college town, but I just don't see a mixed-use "football village" amounting to much there.   This all needs to go on the lakefront as a part of the large-scale vision with significant public investment needed here.

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15 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

I hate to keep harping on it, but yet another reason to move the practice facilities downtown.   There could be practice fields on top of parking (and even use the stadium field itself when they need extra space).   The Browns offices could be attached to mixed-use buildings helping anchor the complex.   

 

My personal vision would be to primarily focus on making the district a world center for health and wellness. Your idea for  training facilities would certainly fit in there. 

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8 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said:

And then there is Bedrock's plan for the riverfront which is a lot of development costing a lot of money.  Is it realistic to think all this development will come to fruition?

 

Over 20-30 years? Sure, why not? And the lakefront and riverfront developments are just some of what's in the works. Of course, not everything will come to fruition, but if we're to satisfy the reported demand for housing downtown (4,000 to 6,500 units over the next decade), then we've got a lot of building to do even if we subtract from that total City Club (304 units), The Bell (367 units), Centennial (580 units), Erieview (227 units), Rockefeller (436 units), that's "only" 1,915 units. Let's say the old Sherwin-Williams HQ is partially converted to residential (say 500 units), Medical Mutual (300 units) and Ohio Savings Plaza (150-225 units) are sold to developers, that's another 1,000 units or so. Perhaps another downtown building may be converted that's not yet on the radar. Add another 200 units for that contingency. So, we're talking about 3,100 units without adding new construction that isn't already under construction.

 

To add another 900 to 3,400 units would take anywhere from three to 11 new construction high rises the scale of the City Club or The Lumen. Let's do it, Cleveland!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This might be a stupid question, but is that 4,000 to 6,500 number based off of current market conditions and projecting those into the next 10 years? Or could that demand number possibly climb as Cleveland becomes a more desirable place to live?

19 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

This might be a stupid question, but is that 4,000 to 6,500 number based off of current market conditions and projecting those into the next 10 years? Or could that demand number possibly climb as Cleveland becomes a more desirable place to live?

 

Its based on a study conducted by the Downtown Cleveland Alliance. You can find the report here.

 

Crain's did a write up on the article here.

5 hours ago, Cleburger said:

I hate to keep harping on it, but yet another reason to move the practice facilities downtown.   There could be practice fields on top of parking (and even use the stadium field itself when they need extra space).   The Browns offices could be attached to mixed-use buildings helping anchor the complex.   

 

No offense to Berea as it is a lovely little bedroom/college town, but I just don't see a mixed-use "football village" amounting to much there.   This all needs to go on the lakefront as a part of the large-scale vision with significant public investment needed here.


The last thing we need is more valuable lakefront space being taken up by is football structures used a fraction of the year. 

8 hours ago, marty15 said:

Add in the parking spots from the top floors of the Huntington and Willard Park garage, turning them into green roofs and tying into the land bridge. Not sure why that hasn’t been discussed. The structures are already built. Huntington Park and Willard Park would directly connect to the waterfront and land bridge then. 

This seems like a such an easy win to me, even without the land bridge it would connect Huntington, Williard, and the malls together. It also creates an east-west green corridor to complement the north-south one created by the malls/land bridge. This area could also conceivably host the Lakefront Bikeway, as well as being the first leg of a pedestrian connection to the East Bank of the flats. 

 

I actually raised this idea a while ago, but it never generated much discussion. Quoting since I made an extremely rough sketch last time. 

 

On 1/27/2022 at 12:54 PM, Ethan said:

 

Also, I want to re-up the idea of greencapping the tops of the parking garages behind the court and city Hall. It would create a green cross for comparatively little cost, plus it would make Willard and Fort Huntington parks more useful. Super quick sketch below.

 

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10 hours ago, ryanfrazier said:


The last thing we need is more valuable lakefront space being taken up by is football structures used a fraction of the year. 

I prefer the glass half full.  Look at it as a the headquarters of a multi-billion dollar corporation, which is used year-round BTW.   The employees and trainers would immediately become a part of the fabric of this new community, dining in restaurants, shopping at retail, or perhaps even renting apartments (many coaching staff etc live here temporarily).    Would Tito Francona still  ride his scooter to work if the Guardians had a training facility in Berea?  

 

In addition, there could be some public recreation component opportunities.   For instance the Browns renting their practice field for a youth football or soccer championships etc.   

16 hours ago, Cleburger said:

I hate to keep harping on it, but yet another reason to move the practice facilities downtown.   There could be practice fields on top of parking (and even use the stadium field itself when they need extra space).   The Browns offices could be attached to mixed-use buildings helping anchor the complex.   

 

No offense to Berea as it is a lovely little bedroom/college town, but I just don't see a mixed-use "football village" amounting to much there.   This all needs to go on the lakefront as a part of the large-scale vision with significant public investment needed here.

 

3 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

I prefer the glass half full.  Look at it as a the headquarters of a multi-billion dollar corporation, which is used year-round BTW.   The employees and trainers would immediately become a part of the fabric of this new community, dining in restaurants, shopping at retail, or perhaps even renting apartments (many coaching staff etc live here temporarily).    Would Tito Francona still  ride his scooter to work if the Guardians had a training facility in Berea?  

 

In addition, there could be some public recreation component opportunities.   For instance the Browns renting their practice field for a youth football or soccer championships etc.   

 

It just doesn't seem feasible at all.  The Browns have 1 indoor and 4 outdoor practice fields in Berea.  It takes up over 11 acres.  That would be a huge waste of space downtown and huge wasted opportunity for the Haslams to develop that real estate with something revenue-generating.

 

Not everything has to be downtown.  They can still build a "football village" around the football stadium, which would make sense because there are tons of fans there, but moving the practice facilities and headquarters doesn't seem to have much benefit besides income taxes going to Cleveland.

 

17 hours ago, Cleburger said:

I hate to keep harping on it, but yet another reason to move the practice facilities downtown.   There could be practice fields on top of parking (and even use the stadium field itself when they need extra space).   The Browns offices could be attached to mixed-use buildings helping anchor the complex.   

 

No offense to Berea as it is a lovely little bedroom/college town, but I just don't see a mixed-use "football village" amounting to much there.   This all needs to go on the lakefront as a part of the large-scale vision with significant public investment needed here.

 

I keep having to mention to people how cold and windy the lakefront east of Edgewater gets during certain times of the year.   Those times include the latter part of football season.   The stadium at least blocks the bulk of the wind from the field.

 

But don't mind me, I live a whopping 500 feet from the lake.

8 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

I keep having to mention to people how cold and windy the lakefront east of Edgewater gets during certain times of the year.   Those times include the latter part of football season.   The stadium at least blocks the bulk of the wind from the field.

 

But don't mind me, I live a whopping 500 feet from the lake.

I live about 1000' from the lake myself. 

 

I'm sure the Browns move many practices indoors this time of year anyway.   

 

Maybe the football village investment on the lakefront can include sidewalks heated by steam to enhance the year around usefulness?   

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

City of Cleveland announces community visioning workshops for North Coast Connector and Master Plan 


April 28, 2023 — Cleveland — Last fall, the City of Cleveland asked residents to consider concepts for the North Coast Connector, a proposed land bridge that would cross the railroad tracks and the Shoreway to reconnect the community to the lakefront. 

 

This spring, residents are asked to weigh in on how to make the North Coast Lakefront and surrounding areas a welcoming place for all through a master planning process.  The community will be asked about what will create a sense of belonging and what they want to experience along the shores of Lake Erie. 


"The North Coast Connector and Master Plan signal our commitment to a city that is welcoming, accessible and thriving for all residents,” said Mayor Justin M. Bibb. “By  uniting the community's diverse voices in shaping the waterfront's future, we will not only enhance the downtown lakefront area but will also create shared assets that meet the needs of Clevelanders for generations to come.” 

 

The City of Cleveland will host three community visioning workshops open to the public: 


•          May 6th, 2023, 2 p.m. – 4 p.m., Pivot Center - Inlet Dance Theatre 


•          May 9th, 2023, 5:30 p.m. – 7:30 p.m., EJ Kovacic Recreation Center 


•          May 11th, 2023, 12 p.m. – 1:30 p.m., via Zoom (register for meeting link) 


The city will provide childcare, children’s activities and refreshments at the in-person workshops. 

 

While not required, pre-registration is requested for planning purposes. Participants are encouraged to register at clevelandnorthcoast.com/get-involved or by calling 216-664-2210. 


For more information on the North Coast Lakefront or to submit feedback online, please visit clevelandnorthcoast.com. 


 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Atleast they're asking for input, I never knew there was an option. It is a rather large undertaking to partially cap underpasses. However it irks me to think that the city will choose the cheapest and blandest option to save on engineering costs unless the Haslams are the ones pitching in for this project. That being said I am also surprised that they're holding a presentation for the public, which makes me think there is potentially more than one master plan. If they're holding focus groups i'm interested in seeing how this plan will change, however i don't feel it will change much. Hopefully we can get some UrbanOhioans in the group to voice their opinions on how not to just build it, but to tailor it to Cleveland. Statues, urban arts, stages, pergolas, gathering areas, fancy lighting, trees, and whatnot. Maybe this is finally our chance to get the superman statue we've always wanted!

Very busy planning commission agenda this week -- especially with detailed design work for lots of lakefront stuff from downtown east to Euclid including North Coast Connector, CHEERS, and Euclid Beach/Euclid Creek stuff all funded out of the city's ARPA Waterfront Activation Fund.

https://planning.clevelandohio.gov/designreview/drcagenda/2023/PDF/CPC/CPC05-05-2023.pdf

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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North Coast Connector: ready for its close-up

By Ken Prendergast / May 2, 2023

 

The North Coast Connector — a project that’s considered by many city and community development officials as the key to unlocking the potential of downtown Cleveland’s lakefront — is starting to come together. The state is moving forward on a big piece of funding for its construction. The city is moving forward on funding for detailed architectural designs. And public involvement meetings to help shape those designs will be held starting this week. To quote Gloria Swanson in the 1950 classic movie “Sunset Boulevard,” the proposed land bridge is “ready for its close-up.”

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Awesome to see this connector project gaining momentum - thanks @KJP for being out front on the story and bringing it to us. 

 

Of The two illustrations of different land bridges - the first one appears to have so much additional high rise development around it - it’s  hard to imagine anything anywhere near to that level of new build - at least in the next generation 

 

Just wondering where that rendering originates  from.   Also, and I guess more importantly - can we learn more about the “proposed high rise development” that would border the land bridge?  

Both renderings have the same new buildings in them. Watch the fly-through video of the rendering (and maybe add some good music to go with it -- I suggest Thierry David's "Connected"! 😎 )...

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

If the Browns require a specific number of parking spaces, presumably the high rises with parking beneath would need to be built before anything replacing the team’s existing parking. Unless the garages can be built separately and have the residential component added later?

 

 

 

anyone else getting concerned that this landbridge is just going to be a huge concrete parking garage jutting out of the bluff?

 

this really needs to be designed right

I want a small amusement park and a ferris wheel at the end. Is that too much to ask?

If we actually were to ever get something close to this - with these added new high rises  - and, don't forget to add in S-W (and The Beacon & Lumen)

-   that view is one pretty nice skyline.  (Not to mention the glitzy new waterfront buildings and the park-like promenade with no automobiles parked on the lakefront!)

 

Despite its impressiveness, imagine it without a big football stadium and the whole thing opened for development!!! 

 

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This is really not a great look for Western Reserve Land Conservancy, and by association, Cleveland Metroparks. You have to wonder is someone at Metroparks is going to pull the Conservancy aside to change course. 

 

Removing the residents of the mobile home parks always made me uncomfortable, but now with federal funds available to cover the infrastructure improvement costs, which were said to be the main obstacle, it looks even worse. I'm sure there are additional considerations, but I'm not sure why you can't consolidate the mobile homes for the residents who want to remain in one section of the mobile home park and allow them to stay. Once all of those residents move on, then you can revert that portion of the mobile home park to the Metroparks. 

 

Euclid Beach residents have plan to save mobile homes. Western Reserve Land Conservancy says no

Ideastream Public Media | By Gabriel Kramer

Published May 1, 2023 at 8:50 PM EDT

 

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The Legal Aid Society of Cleveland says it's found a federal program that it hopes can help keep an East Side Cleveland mobile home park from closing, but the nonprofit organization that owns the property remains set in its plans.

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Legal Aid recently discovered a program created in 2022 by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) called Preservation and Reinvestment Initiative for Community Enhancement (PRICE).

 

The PRICE program includes $225 million in federal dollars for revitalizing manufactured housing, which includes mobile home communities.

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The conservancy shut down the idea of PRICE quickly, saying its decision to close the mobile home park is final and it will not consider applying for federal programs like PRICE as an option to keep residents on the property.

 

https://www.ideastream.org/community/2023-05-01/euclid-beach-residents-have-plan-to-save-mobile-homes-western-reserve-land-conservancy-says-no

23 minutes ago, Luke_S said:

This is really not a great look for Western Reserve Land Conservancy, and by association, Cleveland Metroparks. You have to wonder is someone at Metroparks is going to pull the Conservancy aside to change course. 

 

Removing the residents of the mobile home parks always made me uncomfortable, but now with federal funds available to cover the infrastructure improvement costs, which were said to be the main obstacle, it looks even worse. I'm sure there are additional considerations, but I'm not sure why you can't consolidate the mobile homes for the residents who want to remain in one section of the mobile home park and allow them to stay. Once all of those residents move on, then you can revert that portion of the mobile home park to the Metroparks. 

 

Euclid Beach residents have plan to save mobile homes. Western Reserve Land Conservancy says no

Ideastream Public Media | By Gabriel Kramer

Published May 1, 2023 at 8:50 PM EDT

 

 

https://www.ideastream.org/community/2023-05-01/euclid-beach-residents-have-plan-to-save-mobile-homes-western-reserve-land-conservancy-says-no

I do think this is a reasonable compromise: “consolidate the mobile homes for the residents who want to remain in one section of the mobile home park and allow them to stay. Once all of those residents move on, then you can revert that portion of the mobile home park to the Metroparks.”

 

I do think that throughout much of the debate that people are forgetting that WRC wouldn’t have bought the land if they couldn’t turn it into a park. And if they hadn’t bought it, a developer would have and the mobile homes still would have been evicted.

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

9 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

anyone else getting concerned that this landbridge is just going to be a huge concrete parking garage jutting out of the bluff?

 

this really needs to be designed right

 

Absolutely.  I'll be concerned until they add the transportation center. I'm not as worried about spin-off development happening, e.g. all those buildings. I think that'll start happening as soon as there's a plan in place.  But to expand on  @Whipjacka's point this all needs to be done right. The Lakefront District has to be better designed than Flats East Bank 2.0. 

 

Also the renderings make E. 9th and W. 3rd both look like highways where drivers would be going 65 mph. 

From the video, what exactly is going on here? It looks like people sitting on steps that lead to a pit? And the section just north of it is a giant opening that drops down to the tracks below? Seems dangerous and weird. Looks cool though, I'm just confused what this is depicting.

 

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I was also wondering about that donut hole.  What is the purpose?  Is it intended to let in some light to whatever is underneath?   It seem like there is a better way to accomplish that.

10 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

anyone else getting concerned that this landbridge is just going to be a huge concrete parking garage jutting out of the bluff?

 

this really needs to be designed right

 

I actually like the idea of putting a ton of parking under the land bridge.  I mean ideally there wouldn't be much of a parking component to this, but the reality is that there is going to be.  The underside of the land bridge seems like one of the more unobtrusive options for this parking.  Obviously, I don't want it to look terrible, but I do want to open up the surface lots for development and avoid construction of more visible garages.

22 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I was also wondering about that donut hole.  What is the purpose?  Is it intended to let in some light to whatever is underneath?   It seem like there is a better way to accomplish that.

 

I think it's a way to satisfy the ventilation requirements for covering up the train tracks.  Also maybe an entrance to the proposed transit center.  But the rendering is still conceptual so if this gets built it'll probably look a lot different.

9 hours ago, Silent Matt said:

I want a small amusement park and a ferris wheel at the end. Is that too much to ask?

That's a good idea, but maybe a better location would be at the site of the proposed outlet mall on the muni lot.

So is the Browns stadium staying? I can't help but think not moving is a missed opportunity. It's really too bad if they don't. The land bridge is a horrible idea. People will be committing suicide on it. 

They're bad, but surely not that bad.

16 minutes ago, ryanfrazier said:

 

I think it's a way to satisfy the ventilation requirements for covering up the train tracks.  Also maybe an entrance to the proposed transit center.  But the rendering is still conceptual so if this gets built it'll probably look a lot different.

I thought it was a way to preserve the view and light for the convention center's front door.

Remember: It's the Year of the Snake

42 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I was also wondering about that donut hole.  What is the purpose?  Is it intended to let in some light to whatever is underneath?   It seem like there is a better way to accomplish that.

Surely it's just a mockup. Usually these images, even demos, aren't literal.

21 minutes ago, Dougal said:

I thought it was a way to preserve the view and light for the convention center's front door.

It's the convention center's grand ballroom window, not the front door.  It might let it a little light, the view would probaly just be the transit center or whatever is under the bridge.  But were are being told this is just a mockup, so we shouldn't be too concerned about it at this point.

8 hours ago, CleveFan said:

Despite its impressiveness, imagine it without a big football stadium and the whole thing opened for development!!! 

It would be nice to see a rendering without the stadium for comparison purposes.   

13 hours ago, CleveFan said:

Of The two illustrations of different land bridges - the first one appears to have so much additional high rise development around it - it’s  hard to imagine anything anywhere near to that level of new build - at least in the next generation. 

I'm a pretty optimistic person, but I'm a bit skeptical about all of the high rise development planned for the lakefront, tower city and the various other available parcels.  There have only been a handful of high rises built downtown in the last 20 years, can we realistically expect to see all these new high rises built in the next 20-30 years? 

I'm a pretty optimistic person, but I'm a bit skeptical about all of the high rise development planned for the lakefront, tower city and the various other available parcels.  There have only been a handful of high rises built downtown in the last 20 years, can we realistically expect to see all these new high rises built in the next 20-30 years? 

To fill housing needs alone I feel like yes, didn’t Ken mention we could use a few more lumens around the city to meet demand that aside, over the next 20-30 years I’m guessing there will be a reversal on WFH and companies will need office space again and with buildings converting to housing that would cause a demand for more office space
8 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I'm a pretty optimistic person, but I'm a bit skeptical about all of the high rise development planned for the lakefront, tower city and the various other available parcels.  There have only been a handful of high rises built downtown in the last 20 years, can we realistically expect to see all these new high rises built in the next 20-30 years? 

 

I actually think the high rises are possibly the least important aspect of the plan. It's more vital to get the infrastructure right and let the market capitalize on a very attractive playing field. 

11 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said:


To fill housing needs alone I feel like yes, didn’t Ken mention we could use a few more lumens around the city to meet demand that aside, over the next 20-30 years I’m guessing there will be a reversal on WFH and companies will need office space again and with buildings converting to housing that would cause a demand for more office space

 

Downtown also desperately needs residential purchase options so it would be nice to see some condos in the mix here 

1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said:

It's the convention center's grand ballroom window, not the front door.  It might let it a little light, the view would probaly just be the transit center or whatever is under the bridge.  But were are being told this is just a mockup, so we shouldn't be too concerned about it at this point.

 

Exactly. I've heard from convention center officials that having some natural light coming into those ballroom windows is very important to them. There has actually been some opposition from the convention center folks to the land bridge idea because of the lighting situation. So they'd really like to have some natural light.

 

22 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

I'm a pretty optimistic person, but I'm a bit skeptical about all of the high rise development planned for the lakefront, tower city and the various other available parcels.  There have only been a handful of high rises built downtown in the last 20 years, can we realistically expect to see all these new high rises built in the next 20-30 years? 

 

One of the big reasons why we don't have more new-construction high-rise towers downtown is because the availability of obsolete commercial buildings to convert to residential. They have filled the void. Look at how many office buildings in the 10- to 30-story range have been converted in the last 20 years. I seem to recall the number is at least a dozen.

 

I'm told that a new "significant" building next to the land bridge is already in the works. Financing for that building is coming together. It appears to involve a TIF.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

@KJP you get the impression the multimodal entrance will be on e9th?

Just now, Whipjacka said:

@KJP you get the impression the multimodal entrance will be on e9th?

I hope that’s the plan. East 9th being the main north/south artery downtown. West 3rd side is pretty desolate. 

Are you kidding me!? We don't need anymore wasted meetings where a half-a-dozen citizens give us their imput. Been there. Just build what's in that video. Would anyone here not be thrilled if that's what we got? 

 

Unfortunately, we're not going to get that. Because things change. Things always change. But if we did...if we got that version with a multi-modle transportation center under that landbridge, parking decks under that landbridge, all that greenery, all that housing...that project alone has the potential to change the national narrative of Cleveland because it is so prominent, so visual.

 

So just pick that one. Do it now. The longer we debate skinny landbridge, wide landbridge, boulevard, highway, convention center widows, whatever, the more we risk NEVER building much of anything. Yeah, we're good at that one.

16 minutes ago, Whipjacka said:

@KJP you get the impression the multimodal entrance will be on e9th?

 

I have no idea what the final plan will be because the planners don't either. That's why l wanted to do this article before Saturday -- to give people the opportunity to share their thoughts and ideas while this plan is still fluid.

 

14 minutes ago, cadmen said:

Are you kidding me!? We don't need anymore wasted meetings where a half-a-dozen citizens give us their imput. Been there. Just build what's in that video. Would anyone here not be thrilled if that's what we got? 

 

 

If federal funds are going to be tapped, they have to have public input meetings. All federal funds are awarded based on an exhaustive public involvement process.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I know Ken. I know. I'm just a little frustrated, that's all. I love the video version and l'm afraid what we end up with won't be half as nice. Plus, l'm tired of waiting for lakefront development. I go all the way back to some lakefront entity ( can't remember the name) back in the early '80's l think. Went to a bunch of meetings, we all gave our imput with excited moderators and then...nothing. l just want this to happen, NOW.

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Cleveland has designs on its waterfronts
By Ken Prendergast / May 5, 2023

 

For much of the city’s 227-year history, public officials have been accused of ignoring Cleveland’s waterfronts and especially its lakefront. But now there’s a flurry of activity to turn conceptual ideas into blueprints which will not only help city officials apply for construction funding but to actually build what’s been proposed. Today, those funding allocations for nine waterfront projects were mostly recommended by the City Planning Commission for City Council approval although one was tabled until the next commission meeting. Several of those funding allocations are for construction or demolition to allow larger projects to go forward.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blog/2023/05/05/cleveland-has-designs-on-its-waterfronts/

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Just got back from the North Coast Community Involvement meeting. Main takeaway, it seems like the boulevard is the preferred option of both the community and the organizers. 

 

The presentation should be available on their website on Monday. Look for it on their website.

 

Here's the map of the boulevard proposal before it got covered with community feedback. 

 

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Thanks for the pics. It's still too much asphalt. That extension off of W. 3rd seems unnecessary. Just direct traffic to Lakeside. It's only through traffic which is minimal. 

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