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Let's get ready for some football.

 

 

  • 4 months later...

UC is refusing to release a public records request from the Enquirer pertaining to Big 12 discussion. Included in the records request are emails between Ono, Athletic Director Mike Bohn, and Big 12 officials and any schools in the Big 12 as well as Ono and Bohn's travel schedules in the past few months..

 

The Big 12 has a meeting this week and, if UC is going to join, it will likely be announced after that.

UC is refusing to release a public records request from the Enquirer pertaining to Big 12 discussion. Included in the records request are emails between Ono, Athletic Director Mike Bohn, and Big 12 officials and any schools in the Big 12 as well as Ono and Bohn's travel schedules in the past few months..

 

The Big 12 has a meeting this week and, if UC is going to join, it will likely be announced after that.

 

It sounds like they're just stalling for the meeting, which could be for one of two reasons - UC is in, or they aren't. I'm sure the records the Enquirer wants will end up in their inbox the day after an announcement is made.

Yeah typical crap from the Enquirer.  This is obviously very sensitive and a move could result in UC making a lot more money and getting back into a "big boy" conference.  I hope this does not hurt negotiations with any potential conference or hurt UC within their existing conference (the AAC still seems pissed at UC for when Bohn was hired and stated one goal was to move to a P5 conference).  I think the paper answered their own question in the article:

 

"It's possible UC officials are trying to be careful not to risk messing up a potential opportunity to move into a major conference, which could generate millions of dollars for the university, raise UC's national profile and move it to the right side of a growing divide between the haves and have-nots in college sports."

 

No kidding. The other issue is that any negotiation might not be decided this week and could take another year or two as the Big XII is very slow to act.

 

 

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More good news in terms of Big 12 Expansion, they are now actively and publicly reaching out to potential schools:

 

Surprise! Big 12 takes sudden step toward expansion

 

Sources on Twitter are saying Cincy is pretty much a lock, and the decision is whether to add 1 or 3 other teams.

More good news in terms of Big 12 Expansion, they are now actively and publicly reaching out to potential schools:

 

Surprise! Big 12 takes sudden step toward expansion

 

Sources on Twitter are saying Cincy is pretty much a lock, and the decision is whether to add 1 or 3 other teams.

 

Not sure how much I trust twitter sources, but my fingers are crossed.

More good news in terms of Big 12 Expansion, they are now actively and publicly reaching out to potential schools:

 

Surprise! Big 12 takes sudden step toward expansion

 

Sources on Twitter are saying Cincy is pretty much a lock, and the decision is whether to add 1 or 3 other teams.

 

I would say first in is BYU, then UC after that Boise State and Houston?

I think UC and BYU are in, if they go to 14 I think it becomes a bit of a crap shoot. I don't think they'd want Houston if for no reason than there's already so many Texas schools. Maybe Memphis? UCONN? USF, UCF, CSU could be on the table.

ACCESPN deal is forcing BXII hand so this is going to happen. Great for UC. The are in the club now.

 

 

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  • 2 months later...

The Big 12 is expected to announce their decision regarding expansion at 6:30pm Eastern today.

While previously I was pretty optimistic, after reading several articles over the last few days, I'm no longer as optimistic. 

More good news in terms of Big 12 Expansion, they are now actively and publicly reaching out to potential schools:

 

Surprise! Big 12 takes sudden step toward expansion

 

Sources on Twitter are saying Cincy is pretty much a lock, and the decision is whether to add 1 or 3 other teams.

 

I would say first in is BYU, then UC after that Boise State and Houston?

 

Boise was already eliminated from consideration as a candidate back in September.

While previously I was pretty optimistic, after reading several articles over the last few days, I'm no longer as optimistic. 

 

Same here. I thought it was in the bag but as I have grown to understand the dynamics, I don't think it happens. UC would be better off in the ACC in the long-run. B12 will eventually dissolve and only sporadically be represented in the CFP in the meantime. If they do get in, it's a consolation prize anyway.

^ Yeah I'm in the same boat. I thought expansion was likely until the recent news about the TV networks going all in to stop it. I think they likely offered to pay the Big 12 money to not expand. Fox/ESPN will owe something like $50 million more per year if the Big 12 adds 2 new teams. If they offered half of that, the Big 12 makes more money without having to bother with expansion, and keeps the TV networks happy for future contracts.

 

*Edit - although this is now making the social media rounds (reportedly being printed right now at UC) so who knows?

 

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Rumors now spreading the Big 12 will not expand. It seems odd they would have a press conference 3 hours after their meeting to announce nothing, but we'll see.

When you look at how Louisville, probably UC's closest institution to a 'sister school', has elevated the ACC, I think it makes the case for UC to the Big 12 stronger. With West Virginia already in the conference, Cincinnati wouldn't be an island, geographically, and I think the conference would benefit from recruiting in Ohio. Add in the ties with Huggins and Tuberville and it seems like as natural a fit as they're going to find for expansion, should the Big 12 choose to do so at all.

Looks like they are punting on expansion again, what a joke.

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^ That guys hands were like glue. I'm surprised he didn't at least end up as a practice squad guy in the NFL, he could test NFL defenses, even if his size might prevent him from playing.

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Lot's of nfl guys (gm's) won't draft a guy if he's not at least 6'

Crazy, I'm sitting here at 3:26pm and a fighter jets flies at about 600mph, just under the sound barrier, right over my house.  I check and yes UC's kickoff is at 3:30. 

 

 

Holy shit thank you for posting this. I'm currently in Blue Ash and I heard what I thought was almost a sonic boom or something. Tried to search on twitter to see if anyone else was talking about it but found nothing. I assumed it was some sort of military test from Wright Patt or something. My dogs freaked the fuck out.

It was like at an air show when the Thunderbirds or one of the other groups has one jet disappear for a few minutes.  While you're watching the group do something the jet you forgot about sneaks up behind the crowd about 10mph short of a sonic boom. 

Crazy, I'm sitting here at 3:26pm and a fighter jets flies at about 600mph, just under the sound barrier, right over my house.  I check and yes UC's kickoff is at 3:30. 

 

Meh.  You can hear those sitting in a Church's Chicken drive-thru in West Dayton on a Tuesday afternoon.

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I by chance got cut-off by the BYU motorcade after the game.  At first I thought it was a presidential campaign given the fury of sirens of headed in my direction, then it looked like a funeral procession with two motorcycles in the lead.  Then came the a great tangle of police cars blocking off side streets and two charter buses at the middle of it all.  I assume that they were headed toward Lunken Airport.

 

Why the hell does a football team need such an extravagant escort across the city at 10:30pm (the game had been over for hours and traffic had cleared)?  There was literally zero chance those buses could have hit any traffic at that hour. 

I by chance got cut-off by the BYU motorcade after the game.  At first I thought it was a presidential campaign given the fury of sirens of headed in my direction, then it looked like a funeral procession with two motorcycles in the lead.  Then came the a great tangle of police cars blocking off side streets and two charter buses at the middle of it all.  I assume that they were headed toward Lunken Airport.

 

Why the hell does a football team need such an extravagant escort across the city at 10:30pm (the game had been over for hours and traffic had cleared)?  There was literally zero chance those buses could have hit any traffic at that hour. 

 

There might have been a threat.  The McMullen candidacy has revived anti-Mormonism among the orange kool aid drinking segment of the lunatic fringe.

I saw them coming into town doing the exact same thing. I don't remember ever seeing that with other college teams that have played at UC. I remember a WVU bus getting lost and somehow trying to turn around on Probasco Street once, though that was after they had dropped off players or the band or whoever it was.

 

I do see similar cavalcades for NFL teams regularly (my office is across the street from Paul Brown). I guess you can get the police to do whatever you pay them for, and BYU certainly has no shortage of money.

Fire Tommy, time to hire Urban.

 

There might have been a threat.  The McMullen candidacy has revived anti-Mormonism among the orange kool aid drinking segment of the lunatic fringe.[/color]

 

I wasn't aware of any of that.  That might explain it. 

Fire Tommy

 

Good luck with that.  Its gonna cost UC $2.4 million to fire him now under the new contract Tuberville signed on October 1.  Would have been only $1 million under the previous deal:

 

-- Initial report:  Buyouts higher for UC in new Tuberville deal:  http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2016/10/13/buyouts-higher-uc-new-tuberville-deal/92019330/

 

-- More from this follow-up:  Examining UC's Tuberville problem:  http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/blogs/daugherty-blog/2016/11/07/morning-line-117/93413280/

 

Tuberville signed a two-year contract extension Oct. 1, more than five months after UC announced it had committed to keep Tuberville through at least the 2019 season.  Under terms of the original five-year agreement with Tuberville, UC would have owed the coach a $1 million buyout if the university were to let him go this season or before Jan. 31, 2017.  The buyout would have dropped to $550,000 before the start of the 2017 season.

 

In the new deal, UC will have to pay Tuberville $2.4 million if it lets him go before Dec. 7.  The buyout payment would be $1.5 million if he's fired before Dec. 7, 2017; $1 million before Dec. 7, 2018; and $1 million before Dec. 7, 2019.

 

Beginning July 1, Tuberville's guaranteed annual salary was amended to $1.6 million through Dec. 31, 2019.  In the original contract, the coach was paid a guaranteed annual salary of $2.2 million in 2016 and 2017.  But Tuberville's retention bonuses are higher in the new deal, so he essentially would not take a pay cut as long as he receives the $600,000 in retention bonuses each year.

And how bout the timing of Tuberville's contract extension?  October 1.  The day UC started a 5-out-of-6 game losing streak!!  Perfect timing for Tubs!!  With Tubs making a cool $2.2 million per season, its no wonder that heckler told him to stop stealing from the university!!!!

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Yeah Tubbs isn't going anywhere thanks to that deal and the lack of Big 12 expansion. The loss in ticket sales due to having a crappy team won't offset the hefty price tag of firing him, if I had to guess. I heard the luxury boxes as Nippert were a 3 year deal so they're all paid for next year, no matter what. The one glimmer of hope is that the team is seemingly composed of about 75% freshmen and sophomores.

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Tommy Tuberville resigns after four seasons coaching Cincinnati

 

Cincinnati Bearcats coach Tommy Tuberville has stepped down, the school announced Sunday.

 

Tuberville was 29-22 in four seasons at Cincinnati, including 4-8 this season.  There was speculation that Tuberville could be fired on Wednesday, the day his buyout would have been reduced from $2.4 million to $1.5 million.

 

Tuberville, 62, received a two-year extension from Cincinnati earlier this year that put him under contract with the school through 2019.  The Bearcats made a bowl game in each of his first three seasons but lost all three. ... The Bearcats lost five straight games to finish the season, missing a bowl game for the first time since 2010.

 

MORE:  http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18200236/cincinnati-bearcats-coach-tommy-tuberville-resigns

Luke Fickle seems like a great hire for UC. 

The contract shouldn't have allowed him to stay at OSU through the playoffs, but otherwise a good move by UC. It will be tough to turn the ship around in one year, but hopefully he has some secrets that can help UC upset Michigan in the big house come September.

^ That will always be the case now. Remember when Brian Kelly left, they were not playing in the National Championship but rather the Sugar Bowl. The Sugar Bowl was a glorified exhibition game. When Kelly left the season was over and therefore, it was a natural time to switch teams.

 

When you are in the playoff, your season is not over. You are still playing for something. That is why he is sticking around. You don't leave your position until the loose ends are tied up.

Coaches shouldn't be able to jump ship until after their current season is completed, anyway. There are so many rules for players, and yet these coaches making millions of dollars a year have almost no accountability to their team. NCAA needs to create rules to protect teams from poaching staff before their season is over.

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It looks like former 5-star recruit Torrance Gibson is following Luke Fickell down to Cincinnati:

 

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18459122/former-buckeye-torrance-gibson-headed-cincinnati

 

Seems like a great all around athlete. He is a great addition to UC's roster, and should be able to contribute immediately on the field next season. I didn't follow the story around his suspension, but from my very brief research it sounds like he was railroaded for some reason over a consensual relationship with a tutor, so I don't think behavior is a potential problem at all.

  • 1 year later...

UC upsets UCLA in the season opener, the biggest Bearcats win since Brian Kelly left. 

Except UCLA sucked. just like Miami sucked 3 years ago when UC beat them at Nippert.

 

Still a good win for the program.

^ UC was supposed to suck too. They (along with UCLA) are among the top couple of teams in terms of percent freshmen. UCLA was a 15 point favorite, mostly due to the Chip Kelly hype, I imagine. Which, by the way, was at unreal levels even towards the end of the game. When UC lined up to kick a field goal toward with a few minutes left, UCLA had 12 guys on the field. The announcers actually pondered for a few minutes whether or not Chip had done that on purpose to bait UC into going for it instead of kicking the field goal. When UC waltzed into the endzone on the next play they quickly concluded that Chip would have never done such a thing.

It looks like former 5-star recruit Torrance Gibson is following Luke Fickell down to Cincinnati:

 

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18459122/former-buckeye-torrance-gibson-headed-cincinnati

 

Seems like a great all around athlete. He is a great addition to UC's roster, and should be able to contribute immediately on the field next season. I didn't follow the story around his suspension, but from my very brief research it sounds like he was railroaded for some reason over a consensual relationship with a tutor, so I don't think behavior is a potential problem at all.

 

LOL - Great assessment!

 

From https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/10/torrance_gibson_former_ohio_st_2.html:  "Gibson redshirted in his first year in Columbus after being moved from quarterback to receiver in the first week of training camp. He was suspended by the university prior to the 2016 season, and after a quick detour at Cincinnati State (with the expressed intent of eventually transferring to Cincinnati) Gibson then ended up in junior college in Mississippi."

 

From https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/ohio-state-football-torrance-gibson-signs-cfl-edmonton-eskimos:  "Unfortunately, he disappeared from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College for a stretch in October 2017, closing that chapter of his football career."  Then the CFL's Edmonton Eskimos announced in March 2018 that "We have signed WR Torrance Gibson."

 

Now check out his awesome 2018 CFL Edmonton Eskimo stats(!):  https://www.cfl.ca/players/torrance-gibson/163807/

Happy to see not only a road win, but west coast PAC 12. Never an easy W. No idea what UCLA will look like the remainder of the season. UC ran the ball downhill pretty well and redshirt Freshman QB played well. 2 interior D tackles led the team in tackles, Copeland and Broughton. Rare, usually LBs or Safety. Oline looked light years better than the last 2 seasons.

It looks like former 5-star recruit Torrance Gibson is following Luke Fickell down to Cincinnati:

 

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18459122/former-buckeye-torrance-gibson-headed-cincinnati

 

Seems like a great all around athlete. He is a great addition to UC's roster, and should be able to contribute immediately on the field next season. I didn't follow the story around his suspension, but from my very brief research it sounds like he was railroaded for some reason over a consensual relationship with a tutor, so I don't think behavior is a potential problem at all.

 

LOL - Great assessment!

 

From https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/10/torrance_gibson_former_ohio_st_2.html:  "Gibson redshirted in his first year in Columbus after being moved from quarterback to receiver in the first week of training camp. He was suspended by the university prior to the 2016 season, and after a quick detour at Cincinnati State (with the expressed intent of eventually transferring to Cincinnati) Gibson then ended up in junior college in Mississippi."

 

From https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/ohio-state-football-torrance-gibson-signs-cfl-edmonton-eskimos:  "Unfortunately, he disappeared from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College for a stretch in October 2017, closing that chapter of his football career."  Then the CFL's Edmonton Eskimos announced in March 2018 that "We have signed WR Torrance Gibson."

 

Now check out his awesome 2018 CFL Edmonton Eskimo stats(!):  https://www.cfl.ca/players/torrance-gibson/163807/

 

Seems like this young man squandered a lot of talent. It's a shame. Reminds me a bit of Gunner Kiel, who also struggled with apparent off the field issues. Hopefully Gibson can pull himself together and live a fruitful life, and hopefully OSU's railroading didn't start the decline. It's always sad to see something like this, no matter what's going on...

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