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Ram, I wonder what happened with Kiel? He was suspended from the team during bowl prep for the Hawaii Bowl. Rejoined the team for the next season and was not the starter. Played well his last season when he did play. He was not even an undrafted free agent.

Rumor mill was possible addiction to pain medication because he took a beating his 2nd year as a starter.

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^ UC was supposed to suck too. They (along with UCLA) are among the top couple of teams in terms of percent freshmen. UCLA was a 15 point favorite, mostly due to the Chip Kelly hype, I imagine. Which, by the way, was at unreal levels even towards the end of the game. When UC lined up to kick a field goal toward with a few minutes left, UCLA had 12 guys on the field. The announcers actually pondered for a few minutes whether or not Chip had done that on purpose to bait UC into going for it instead of kicking the field goal. When UC waltzed into the endzone on the next play they quickly concluded that Chip would have never done such a thing.

 

That was completely ridiculous. Every time UCLA did something stupid, the announcers were like "this is the sheer genius of Chip Kelly"

 

Could it be that the shine and luster of Chip Kelly may have worn off, or other coaches have caught up to his style after being out of the college game for 5 years now. It was a bit nauseating hearing the announcers completely sniff Kelly's jock the entire game.

^ UC was supposed to suck too. They (along with UCLA) are among the top couple of teams in terms of percent freshmen. UCLA was a 15 point favorite, mostly due to the Chip Kelly hype, I imagine. Which, by the way, was at unreal levels even towards the end of the game. When UC lined up to kick a field goal toward with a few minutes left, UCLA had 12 guys on the field. The announcers actually pondered for a few minutes whether or not Chip had done that on purpose to bait UC into going for it instead of kicking the field goal. When UC waltzed into the endzone on the next play they quickly concluded that Chip would have never done such a thing.

 

That was completely ridiculous. Every time UCLA did something stupid, the announcers were like "this is the sheer genius of Chip Kelly"

 

Could it be that the shine and luster of Chip Kelly may have worn off, or other coaches have caught up to his style after being out of the college game for 5 years now. It was a bit nauseating hearing the announcers completely sniff Kelly's jock the entire game.

 

Chalk it up to one game. He doesn't have the QB, at the moment, to run his offense. Robinson was recruited to be that guy though.

He is young. For Robinson and Ridder (UC) it was their first time playing in a college game. Funny how recruiting goes, Robinson had 31 offers, Ridder had 1.

I am glad that there seems to be someone willing to dethrone Hayden Moore. As long as he was the starter, UC would not do anything.

^UC didn't get any respect when they made those big bowl appearances 7-9 years ago.

 

I couldn't hear the game, I was watching it at a bar, so I didn't hear the commentators.  It's just hilarious how year after year, sports "experts" get to be wrong, wrong, wrong. 

 

Maybe the ex-NFL players are less blatant jock sniffers than the career sports journalists, but I've never seen the data(?) plotted on a graph. 

I am glad that there seems to be someone willing to dethrone Hayden Moore. As long as he was the starter, UC would not do anything.

LOL. He fumbles too often and has had a couple of WTF interceptions. He is OK with decent oline play. Over the past 25 years ranking QBs at UC he would fall in the middle somewhere. I liked what I saw with Ridder.

Former Bearcat WR Shaq Washington took over this year as head coach of our mutual HS alma mater.

 

They're 2-0 by a combined 83-2 margin.

Former Bearcat WR Shaq Washington took over this year as head coach of our mutual HS alma mater.

 

They're 2-0 by a combined 83-2 margin.

Best slot receiver I ever saw at UC. That is pretty cool. Pretty young to be Head Coach, congrats to him.
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On 9/4/2018 at 12:55 PM, KyleCincy said:
On 9/4/2018 at 12:52 PM, E Rocc said:

Former Bearcat WR Shaq Washington took over this year as head coach of our mutual HS alma mater.

 

They're 2-0 by a combined 83-2 margin.

 

Best slot receiver I ever saw at UC. That is pretty cool. Pretty young to be Head Coach, congrats to him.

 

Right now they are 12-0, heading into the regional finals against Archbishop Hoban, the defending state champs.

 

They've won both playoff games by 30, and ten of their twelve wins have been by more than three touchdowns.

 

When he won a state title at Maple, his head coach was under 30 as well.

 

The Bearcats are quietly Doing Business this season. Anyone going to Orlando this weekend? If they can win there, they will most likely be AAC champs and hopefully start next season ranked.

^ It's a shame the game is at UCF - College Gameday will be there and it will be one of the first big AAC games on prime time network TV. It would have been great to have that all at Nippert. It should be a good game - UCF has a good offense and UC has a great defense (top 10 in scoring and total defense), while UCF has a mediocre defense and UC has a mediocre offense.

There is a small group of us flying to Orlando Saturday morning for the game. Even though it wont be played at Nippert, UC is going to get national airtime for athletic and educational promotion. Buddy of mine said after the UCLA game this year they had a massive uptick in people responding to the admissions dept. 

Fickell is doing great things for this team, it would be amazing if he can get this team passed UCF. They are beatable, Memphis lost by 1 and Navy put up 24 points against them. Hopefully officiating wont be as terrible as it was in Philly a couple weeks ago...

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Keep on battling Bearcats, only bright spot in the sh*tty Cincinnati athletic scene

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6-1 Bearcats head into a bye week, with ECU in two weeks! Keep fighting Bearcats.

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I don't see anyone talking about this, but with Boise State's loss to BYU (and subsequent drop in the rankings), it appears that UC has control of its own destiny in terms of getting a bid in a New Year's Six bowl (Peach, Cotton, or Fiesta since the others have conference ties). SMU is the only G5 team ahead of UC in the rankings, and SMU either remains undefeated and faces UC in the AAC championship game (the winner of which would get the NY6 bid), or they lose a game and drop behind UC in the rankings, leaving UC at the top of the G5.

 

Of course, this is subject to whatever happens when the official rankings come out in a couple weeks. But it looks like this is the case.

 

The offense will need to step up and become more consistent if the Bearcats hope to win out.

33 minutes ago, Robuu said:

I don't see anyone talking about this, but with Boise State's loss to BYU (and subsequent drop in the rankings), it appears that UC has control of its own destiny in terms of getting a bid in a New Year's Six bowl (Peach, Cotton, or Fiesta since the others have conference ties). SMU is the only G5 team ahead of UC in the rankings, and SMU either remains undefeated and faces UC in the AAC championship game (the winner of which would get the NY6 bid), or they lose a game and drop behind UC in the rankings, leaving UC at the top of the G5.

 

Of course, this is subject to whatever happens when the official rankings come out in a couple weeks. But it looks like this is the case.

 

The offense will need to step up and become more consistent if the Bearcats hope to win out.

 

Both teams have some rough games ahead, if our offensive coordinator doesnt step his game up, we wont be going to a New Year's Six Bowl. Some of the worst play calling lately. Reminds me of the 90s Bengals. 

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Something is wrong with this team, and it's not just Ridder playing through an injury. They need to get the offense sorted out, or exposure is coming.

 

Meanwhile, the 'cats still control their own destiny as far as getting into the Cotton Bowl.

^ Yeah, this team is all over the place. The defense had been mostly consistent, but almost blew the game at ECU and gave up 500+ passing yards to a team that hasn't won a conference game. Luckily the offense put up big enough numbers to eek out a win.

 

This weekend at a bad USF team, it was a different story - the offense couldn't put a drive together for the entire first half. They had < 50 yards at halftime, and were lucky the defense, who spent nearly the entire half on the field, held USF to 10. The offensive coordinator has made some lackluster game plans all season, but this was a new level of questionable.

 

They're 10 games into the season, 9-1, and I still have no idea what sort of performance to expect each week. They need to beat a good Temple team, win on the road against Memphis, and then win a conference championship game to get to the cotton bowl. UC hasn't really had a good, convincing win on the road all season so that Memphis game looks problematic. If UC beats Temple but loses to Memphis, they might end up having to play Memphis in Memphis two weeks in a row.

Once again, the Bearcats got ridiculously lucky, winning a home game 15-13 vs. a mediocre Temple due to a super-weird safety (blocked point-after-touchdown returned to the end zone).

 

The 10-1 record feels icky. Winning at Memphis on Friday seems virtually impossible. And if they lose, the AAC championship game will be...against Memphis, at Memphis. Losing either will probably take them out of the running for the Cotton Bowl, and may very well position them for an invitation to the Liberty Bowl. Which is at the Memphis Tigers' stadium. ?‍♂️ That may be a fittingly humbling ending to a season where the team has gotten away with way too much.

I met UC's Kobe Bryant last year.  I couldn't believe he really had that name.  I also met a guy about five years ago who claims he held Kobe Bryant (the real one) "in his arms" when he was a baby.  

^ UC has has some great player names. Off the top of my head, in addition to Bryant they've had a Mike Tyson and a Lyndon Baines Johnson. I wouldn't be surprised if good 'ole Tommy Tuberville recruited these guys just because he liked the names.

 

2 hours ago, Robuu said:

Once again, the Bearcats got ridiculously lucky, winning a home game 15-13 vs. a mediocre Temple due to a super-weird safety (blocked point-after-touchdown returned to the end zone).

 

The 10-1 record feels icky. Winning at Memphis on Friday seems virtually impossible. And if they lose, the AAC championship game will be...against Memphis, at Memphis. Losing either will probably take them out of the running for the Cotton Bowl, and may very well position them for an invitation to the Liberty Bowl. Which is at the Memphis Tigers' stadium. ?‍♂️ That may be a fittingly humbling ending to a season where the team has gotten away with way too much.

 

A blocked PAT returned for 2 points has to be one of the rarest plays in college football. I was at the game and scratched my head for a few seconds during the return, before the scoreboard updated, because I couldn't remember if it resulted in 1 or 2 points. The stadium announcer called it a touchdown, which I knew wasn't right, though I'm still not entirely sure what it's called.

 

In general, UC's offense is terrible. They might get blown out in Memphis two weekends in a row unless the defense gets a few turnovers.

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I heard the play on the radio and it seemed like it took forever for Bryant to run the length of the field.  I'm in the car thinking he should have scored by now.  I finally got around to watching the clip and he was loafing!  

 

 

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Report: UC's Fickell top choice for Michigan State job

 

University of Cincinnati head football coach Luke Fickell is a top candidate to replace the retiring coach at Michigan State University, according to a report.

 

The Detroit Free Press writes that Fickell is the "frontrunner" to replace Mark Dantonio, who announced his retirement on Tuesday. Dantonio himself is a former Bearcats football coach, from 2004 to 2006.

 

Fickell, 46, arrived in Clifton in 2017 from Ohio State. He made $2.3 million in the 2019 season, representing a 15% raise. Dantonio made $4.4 million last season.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/02/04/report-ucs-fickell-top-choice-for-michigan-state.html

 

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I'd hold out a few years for a better program.

Hopefully Fick can get MSU back up to b10 east title contention.. solid hire imo.. I'm sure hes itching to get a few revenge wins against scUM..  Should've won that game!

7 hours ago, TwoStickney419 said:

Hopefully Fick can get MSU back up to b10 east title contention.. solid hire imo.. I'm sure hes itching to get a few revenge wins against scUM..  Should've won that game!

Keep that commentary in the Big 10 thread or wherever.

I dont think he leaves. It is not the right time for him and his family to move. In a couple years it is a different story. I still think he ends up at Notre Dame. 

UC's Fickell makes decision about Michigan State coaching job

 

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University of Cincinnati football coach Luke Fickell is staying at UC and won’t take the head coaching job at Michigan State.

 

A UC spokesman confirmed to me this morning that Fickell is staying with the Bearcats.

 

Fickell met with Michigan State officials Sunday about the open position but has decided to stay, Yahoo Sports’ Pete Thamel reported this morning.

 

The Michigan State job opened up Feb. 4 when Mark Dantonio, himself a former UC head coach, retired. Fickell previously coached with Dantonio at Ohio State. The Detroit Free Press quickly reported that Fickell was the front-runner for the job.

 

After Michigan State officials left a meeting with Fickell at his home around noon Sunday, it was understood that the job was his if he wanted it, Thamel reported. But Fickell reportedly talked it over with his family and decided to stay.

 

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11 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

Tommy Tuberville defeats Jeff Session in the Alabama Senate primary:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tubverville-defeats-sessions-alabama-gop-senate-runoff

 

Wow, it wasn't even close. Given that it's Alabama and the last guy only lost (barely) because he was a known pedophile, it's pretty likely a former UC football coach will become a Senator.


You have to wonder if coming to UC thinking it'd be an easy job, but under-performing, was a wake up call.  He had a pretty successful career prior to UC, and no one wants to go out on a low note.

  • 4 months later...

Some good news for UC this week:  The Bearcats (8-0) were #7 in the first College Football Playoff rankings released Tuesday night.

 

And some bad news:  Cincinnati's game at Temple this weekend was canceled due to covid issues for both schools.  Cincinnati and Temple share a common open date on Dec. 5, but the AAC's return-to-play protocols would not allow for a sufficient number of players to be available for the game to be rescheduled for that date.

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https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30534280/aac-commissioner-says-deck-stacked-group-5-college-football-teams

 

The #9 Bearcats (8-0) dropped one spot in each of the past two rankings released by the committee.  In the latest rankings released Tuesday, Cincinnati fell behind three two-loss teams: #6 Iowa State, #7 Florida and #8 Georgia.

 

The Bearcats haven't played since a 36-33 victory at UCF on Nov. 21.  Their road game at Temple the next week was canceled because of covid issues within both programs, and a Dec. 12 game at Tulsa was canceled because of problems in the Cincinnati program.

 

Cincinnati is scheduled to play #23 Tulsa in Saturday's AAC championship game (8 p.m. ET/ABC).

30 minutes ago, Columbo said:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30534280/aac-commissioner-says-deck-stacked-group-5-college-football-teams

 

The #9 Bearcats (8-0) dropped one spot in each of the past two rankings released by the committee.  In the latest rankings released Tuesday, Cincinnati fell behind three two-loss teams: #6 Iowa State, #7 Florida and #8 Georgia.

 

The Bearcats haven't played since a 36-33 victory at UCF on Nov. 21.  Their road game at Temple the next week was canceled because of covid issues within both programs, and a Dec. 12 game at Tulsa was canceled because of problems in the Cincinnati program.

 

Cincinnati is scheduled to play #23 Tulsa in Saturday's AAC championship game (8 p.m. ET/ABC).


That’s a verrryyy nice TV Slot! 8pm Saturday night ABC. I figured they would have given it to Clemson v Notre Dame

 

UC finishes 8th in the final CFB playoff rankings and will face #9 Georgia in the Peach Bowl on New Year's Day:

 

I don't actually believe we should've gotten into the playoff, but I know that Notre Dame doesn't deserve to be there after they lost the ACC championship so badly, so maybe switch them out for Texas A&M or OU, and give UC a chance to play against Kelly and Notre Dame on New Years Day. That's the only change I would make, would love a chance to beat him. 

they should stop pretending this is a playoff open to everyone in college football, and just call it a top 5 conference invitational. I don't believe any non power conference team will ever make it in the current format.

The vast majority of UC fans dont think UC was going to be in the playoff and were not upset about the snub. Where I think there is anger is the fact that Oklahoma jumped UC for number 6. The thing about it, they did not need to do this and it served no purpose. Beyond #4 nothing else matters. TAM may as well be number 12, it really does not matter. BUT what the commitee could and should have done was list UC 5 or 6 (because it does not really matter) but for a school like UC, it represents a moral victory of sorts for their fans and supprters. they get recognized on TV as one of the schools that had a legit claim to a final playoff spot (even if it was a longshot). What really did the committee have to lose by giving UC that recognition. Listing them below 2 loss Oklahoma and 3 loss Florida is a slap in the face. Yes, I believe that both schools are better than UC in most contensts, but why not recognize them for their accomplishment. 

The Bearcats' fate was sealed when they slipped in the CFP rankings when they weren't even playing any Games....

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1 hour ago, ryanlammi said:

they should stop pretending this is a playoff open to everyone in college football, and just call it a top 5 conference invitational. I don't believe any non power conference team will ever make it in the current format.

 

I mean if the TV people were picking the teams they certainly got their way this year.

2 hours ago, ucgrady said:

I don't actually believe we should've gotten into the playoff, but I know that Notre Dame doesn't deserve to be there after they lost the ACC championship so badly, so maybe switch them out for Texas A&M or OU, and give UC a chance to play against Kelly and Notre Dame on New Years Day. That's the only change I would make, would love a chance to beat him. 

 

I think Cincy got snubbed. The 4th spot was certainly tough this year. Whoever was chosen would be a multi-score underdog to Alabama. Notre Dame just got destroyed by the #2 team, who wants to watch a repeat of their poor performance? A&M already got routed by Alabama once, why let them go at it again? Oklahoma is a two loss team and one was at home to a bad 4-6 Kansas State team - they're probably the most overrated team of the bunch and certainly don't deserve a spot. Although Florida gives them a run for their money - they shouldn't even by in the top 10 after their home loss to what was a 4 win LSU team. IMO, UC should be ahead of those teams and would be if not for name recognition and P5 status. The only two who have an argument for being ahead are A&M and Notre Dame, but each has already lost convincingly to another playoff team. And don't even get me started on OSU not being assessed differently for playing half a schedule.

 

 

IMO, if the NCAA is going to allow this to still be called a "playoff" in the future, it needs to be expanded. The model I like is 24 teams, with the top 8 getting a first round bye. Use the old BCS rankings to seed teams. All 10 conferences get an AQ. Shorten the regular season to 10 games and let all non-playoff teams play a pseudo bowl game. Call it "exhibition week" and make it something wild like literally picking teams out of a hat to determine matchups. This way every team gets at least 11 games, with a few playoff teams getting to 12-14 games, and a rare chance for a Cinderella to end up with 15 games. This would ensure that only one team ends the season with an undefeated record.

I do not hold any preconceptions that UC would beat, Nd, OSU, Bama, Clem or even A&M, or Florida, or even Oklahaoma. However, if there is a year to find out, why not this year where COVID ruined everything. Why not let a new team have a shot. I mean, the title really is illegtimate this year anyway given that there was not a good way to truly measure the best teams. They should have given UC the shot this year . 

14 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

Why not let a new team have a shot.

I love me some Bearcats football, but this logic doesn't hold up. The current playoff/bowl structure is odd, but there's no good reason they should pick anything other than the 4 best teams to fill the 4 playoff spots. 

1 hour ago, jwulsin said:

I love me some Bearcats football, but this logic doesn't hold up. The current playoff/bowl structure is odd, but there's no good reason they should pick anything other than the 4 best teams to fill the 4 playoff spots. 

I understand and respect that point, but when you have 5 power conferences plus a good G5 team, and in most years you have very few common opponents, is that really something you can truly evaluate. Otherwise, just go on recruiting rankings.  Some teams get mulligans for losses while other's do not.  While I want the Best teams, I also do not want 

1) Rematches (or especially 3 rematches)

2) If you lose the CCG, you are or should be out. This game is a de-facto playoff. 

3) Teams that are playing well at the end of the year, win their conference should always have priority. 

 

What I hated about the BCS was that it was too computer and poll reliant and that did not take the flexibility of teams who evolved during the season. It overly rewarded SEC schools who played big rivals early in the year who happened to be overranked and did not diminish the value of the win when that top 5 preseason SEC school fell flat on their face and finished 500 at the end of the year (See Texas A&M most years).  I appreciate the committee on that end. However, there has to be an element of deserving in the mix. OU was not deserving of #6. ND was not deserving of an opportunity for a 3rd rematch with Clemson. We have already seen A&M get curbed stomped by Bama so we know how that story ends.  Why not let some new blood and new opportunities. 

3 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

I understand and respect that point, but when you have 5 power conferences plus a good G5 team, and in most years you have very few common opponents, is that really something you can truly evaluate. Otherwise, just go on recruiting rankings.  Some teams get mulligans for losses while other's do not.  While I want the Best teams, I also do not want 

1) Rematches (or especially 3 rematches)

2) If you lose the CCG, you are or should be out. This game is a de-facto playoff. 

3) Teams that are playing well at the end of the year, win their conference should always have priority. 

 

What I hated about the BCS was that it was too computer and poll reliant and that did not take the flexibility of teams who evolved during the season. It overly rewarded SEC schools who played big rivals early in the year who happened to be overranked and did not diminish the value of the win when that top 5 preseason SEC school fell flat on their face and finished 500 at the end of the year (See Texas A&M most years).  I appreciate the committee on that end. However, there has to be an element of deserving in the mix. OU was not deserving of #6. ND was not deserving of an opportunity for a 3rd rematch with Clemson. We have already seen A&M get curbed stomped by Bama so we know how that story ends.  Why not let some new blood and new opportunities. 

Those all seem like good arguments for revising the format of the playoffs... but not sure I see how that leads to an argument about letting UC into the top 4 this year.

1 hour ago, jwulsin said:

Those all seem like good arguments for revising the format of the playoffs... but not sure I see how that leads to an argument about letting UC into the top 4 this year.

I'll try. Oklahoma lost to Kansas State, who wasn't good and who themselves lost to Louisianan (a G5 school). Texas A&M had already proved they would get routed by Alabama, so putting them at the 4 seed doesn't make sense. Notre Dame had been routed by a healthy Clemson THE NIGHT BEFORE THE SELECTION and got in. Notre Dame had 2 wins against ranked teams, North Carolina and a depleted Clemson missing the best quarterback in the country. Cincinnati beat three ranked teams, Army, SMU and Tulsa. 

 

The Pac-12 eliminated themselves by playing fewer games and having USC lose the championship game. The Big 12 eliminated themselves by having two loss teams, including a loss to a G5 team. The SEC and ACC next best teams each had losses to teams in the playoff already. This is the first year it has actually made sense to pick a G5 team, whether you want UC or Coastal Carolina, I would've been happy with either choice. BTW, the Colley Matrix (used by the BCS) has Cincinnati #2 in the country and Coastal Carolina #3. 

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