I just noticed the Enquirer just started charging $1.99 for any searches older than one week, what a cheap-ass, bullsh!t move!  So, if you see any images in the online edition you like, you may want to copy them to your computer right away.

 

 

I thought they had been doing that for a while.  But it seems kind of backwards to me--shouldn't you charge for fresh content and let people look at the out-of-date stuff for free?

 

You can get around it though...if you search through Google and the article comes up, you don't have to pay.

Grasscat, that is exactly what I did.  It just pisses me off though.

At least you don't have to pay $4.95 a month just to access the front page, like the Columbus Dispatch.

You know what's kind of funny about the Dispatch... I subscribed for weekend delivery in 2003, and stopped getting the paper in summer 2004, but they are still sending me the daily headlines in my email and allowing me to access the website free of charge.  ??

I got to thinking of this, and today is a perfect example.  In the "Local News" section, there are more than twice as many Northern Kentucky stories as there are Ohio stories:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=NEWS01

 

This happens every day.

 

Even back when the Coingate scandal was heating up, the Enquirer barely covered it at all.  Their Ohio coverage in general is piss poor.

 

Meanwhile, they create "nky.com" and bombard their Enquirer.com newspaper site with NKY stories that are better covered in a small community papers (Meaning, stories with little broad appeal.).

 

Has anyone else noticed this?

 

Sorry for the rant.

 

I say we all try to get jobs there and take the place over! Who's with me?  ;)

 

I can write.  :-D

Are there any papers that ever cover the statehouse well?  It's surprising, since that's really where the rubber meets the road for most residents and businesses, sometimes much more than foreign policy or federal law, but coverage of it has always seemed weak, when I lived up north (although the paper I read then was the Medina County Gazette), and down here...

The Toledo Blade has done an excellent job in covering the statehouse, at least in the two years I've looked at it.  The Dispatch is probably second, and they have the benefit of having things going down in their own backyard.  I would put Cleveland and Dayton somewhere around third and fourth for the major dailies.  Akron's paper's been crap recently.

Are there any papers that ever cover the statehouse well?  It's surprising, since that's really where the rubber meets the road for most residents and businesses, sometimes much more than foreign policy or federal law, but coverage of it has always seemed weak, when I lived up north (although the paper I read then was the Medina County Gazette), and down here...

 

Little papers like the Medina County Gazette and the Delaware Gazette can't afford to have reporters at the statehouse.  They get their state news from the AP wire.

Other than the Enquier, Plain Dealer, and Dispatch, I wouldn't be surprised if the other papers in Ohio get the majority of their statehouse coverage from wire reports.

They cover too much UK sports too

The last statement all of a sudden makes sense.

 

Since the Dayton paper and Middletown paper dominate the area directly north of Cincinnati, from Middletown and Lebanon north, the Cincinnati papers out-of-city market probably dips way down into rural northern Kentucky...deeper than just the Covington/Newport/Boone County area but extending to the next tier of counties south, like Pendleton and Grant, and east along the Ohio River to probably Augusta.

 

So they Enquirer is could be really reaching down into Kentucky for their market and readership, beyond metro Cincinnati.

 

 

Since they call themselves "The Cincinnati Enquirer," it would be nice to seem them actually cover the good stuff about downtown and the neighborhoods within the city.  I get the impression that the Enquirer only likes to cover positive stories if it's in Northern Kentucky, West Chester, or Mason.  If it's going on in the urban core, then forget it!

Yeah, there has been discussion here of percieved bias in the Enquirers urban coverage.  I dont read that paper, but from what ive read on this Urban Ohio site, it seems they really are "not helping" when it comes to urban revitalization.

 

 

I've been noticing the NKY favoritism lately too.  Curious considering that a minority of the region's population lives there, and they're not even in a newspaper turf war. I remember reading an article under a headline that started "Downtown business ..." and it was about Florence!!!

 

The Enquirer was already a worthless piece of shit, but now that it doesn't talk about things that happen where I live or frequent, I hardly ever read it anymore, even online.

  As far as sports go, I had just started accepting the fact that NKY is part of the tri-state and so therefor there are a lot of Kentucky Wildcat fans.

  But lately I've noticed a lot of Louisville Cardinal coverage in the paper and on the radio also.

  It's getting a little ridiculous. The other day 1360 HOMER had the Louisville basketball game PLUS the Rick Pitino show on. I thought I was in the wrong city.

  I can see the Kentucky coverage, but come on, Louisville? Give me a break. Stop helping these schools recruit kids from our city for Christ sakes.

I would like to see more coverage of tOSU --- for example, Sunday (yesterday) the game previews had 1 story for tOSU and 2 stories plus a UK "notebook" for Kentucky - I would like to think there are more fans of tOSU in the Enqurier's market area, since there is more population in Ohio in the metro. Then again UK is the only sport for the most of Kentucky. Maybe there is more UofL coverage since they have been in UC's league for a few years

I saw the front page of The Enquirer and it was talking about new development in OTR and it sounded like they were suggesting OTR is changing for the better. I don't know.  Maybe they're changing that.

Talking about their sports coverage...Look at Miami.  They are only 40 miles from Cincy and you don't see a damn thing in the paper about their hockey team, which is #2 in the nation. 

 

I guess it's b/c they have 2 things going against them:

1. No news (tv or paper) gives a damn about Miami (unless its about rapes & drinking)

2. No news (tv or paper) gives a damn about hockey

For one I don't call Greater Cincinnati, Tri-State.  Hearing Tri-State is quite annoying. 

 

Second, Cincinnati is in Ohio and while the metro spills into Kentucky & Indiana, the news from the papers should be about Ohio first and foremost.  As for sports, UK is not even located in Greater Cincinnati and should not be part of any headline associated with a local paper.  Miami Univerisity of Oxford is located in Greater Cincinnati and should get more attention.

 

Lastly, we all need to buy the Cincinnati Post from Scripps and make it a morning paper again that competes with the Enquirer head to head.

Since they call themselves "The Cincinnati Enquirer," it would be nice to seem them actually cover the good stuff about downtown and the neighborhoods within the city.  I get the impression that the Enquirer only likes to cover positive stories if it's in Northern Kentucky, West Chester, or Mason.  If it's going on in the urban core, then forget it!

 

This is very true.  The writer that covers regional development, for the enquirer, came into my urban lobbying class and spoke with us.  I asked him why it seems that every story about the inner city is negative while most stories about the suburbs are postive.  He responded by saying that he reports what the story is and how it has been developing.  As for the fact of not covering positive stories at all...he said that he is new to the job and that he would try to address that.....we'll see

Maybe lack of inner city coverage is a reflection on the geographical location of their staff??

^^Urban Lobbying Course?! :?

Maybe lack of inner city coverage is a reflection on the geographical location of their staff??

 

David we probably don't realize how close to the truth your comment really is...

Maybe lack of inner city coverage is a reflection on the geographical location of their staff??

 

Ha. Having worked at a paper in Northeastern Ohio, I was amazed how many staff members lived in the same part of town. Where I'm working now (not Cinci, mind you, but another C-town) there seems to be a good number of people eschewing the 'burbs and such.

Maybe lack of inner city coverage is a reflection on the geographical location of their staff??

 

Ha. Having worked at a paper in Northeastern Ohio, I was amazed how many staff members lived in the same part of town. Where I'm working now (not Cinci, mind you, but another C-town) there seems to be a good number of people eschewing the 'burbs and such.

It was just a thought. I wasn't claiming that it was true, however someone in Kentucky can live closer to their job at the Enquirer compared to someone still in Columbus' city limits working at the Dispatch (If the Dispatch is centrally located. I'm under the impression it's downtown.) Since metro and city population are two entirely different things, I think every paper needs to cover all parts of the metro for the benefit of the whole region. This includes small papers doing articles on downtown and the inner city.

^^Urban Lobbying Course?! :?

 

Why yes...how did you guess?  Professor Grundy is awesome, I am taking the 3rd class this quarter and looking forward to it I might add.  I just love group discussions (this is why I enjoy UrbanOhio)

^^Urban Lobbying Course?! :?

 

Why yes...how did you guess?  Professor Grundy is awesome, I am taking the 3rd class this quarter and looking forward to it I might add.  I just love group discussions (this is why I enjoy UrbanOhio)

 

I guess because you mentioned it beforehand.  What's discussed/taught in Urban Lobbying?

^It is a class about urban politics.  Every class you have two speakers come in and discuss a guided topic for the class.  These speakers usually have a connection to the topic you are discussing.  Last quarter we talked with those who deal with politics in the media.  This quarter will be about 'citizen activism'.

^Is that offered in the summer?

Many of us have bitched about our local newspaper time and time again and this is another rant.  I am continually amazed about the lack of coverage of the city unless it is negative.  There has also been an increased coverage of Kentucky cities.  I have a website that pulls RSS feeds from the local news sources and this morning I had an amazing 4 out of 4 stories from the Enquirer about Kentucky!

 

No joke...

 

Parents putting together new PTA (Boone County, Kentucky)

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060423/NEWS0103/604230410/-1/rss

 

Hundreds honor Marine (Ft. Wright, Kentucky)

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060423/NEWS0103/604230414/-1/rss

 

Expo Center wing razed (Louisville)

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060423/NEWS0103/604230406/-1/rss

 

Archdiocese settles sex-abuse suit (Louisville)

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060423/NEWS0103/604230404/-1/rss

 

So now we are getting news coverage about Louisville?  It is apparent that the Enquirer staff no longer have residents of the city of Cincinnati.  Sadly many of the journalists and editors more than likely live in NKY or the Northern Burbs.  You can see it in the writing style, you can see it the selection of coverage.  The primarily Democrat voting city gets the negative news and what is left is standard news of the northern burbs and NKY.  The Enquirer has become the embarrassment of the city.  This morning they crossed the line with me, and while I have bitched about them before I couldn't believe my eyes when 2 of the 4 stories were about another city 100 miles away, ironically located in Kentucky.

 

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Their Northern Kentucky section on the Local News page consistently has twice as many stories as the "Local News" (Ohio) part.  It's disturbing.

I understand the Enquirer and the other local media entities wanting to expand their control/converage.  However, they are still Cincinnati based and without that base.....THEY ARE NOTHING!!!!!!!  If you think for a second that anything would be happening, in Nky or the burbs, without the City of Cincinnati....then you are being absolutly ignorant.

 

Maybe the local media should start 'getting back to their roots' before its too late and they lose their credibility (if its not too late already.

It's time for another daily media outlet staffed with professional journalists.  I have no idea what the business model would look like, but the Enquirer is embarrassing.  I've seen better quality reporting, features, and balance in papers serving markets much smaller than Cincinnati.

Maybe they're redirecting attention to other areas so people will ignore the real issues at hand.

How much is the Cincinnati Post worth?  Would Scripps just kill it off after the contract is up with Gannett & the Cincinnati Enquirer?  Where do they print their paper today?  Do they share the printing press with the Enquirer?

I have mentioned in other posts that newspapers suffer greatly by hiring so many people from out of town who have no interest in the place and are just looking to move up and out the whole time.  Yes, you do need people from other places, obviously, to keep sentimentality in check.  I have always sensed that a few Enquirer writers seem bitter about living their adult lives in Cincinnati, in a place where they never imagined being as a child or journalism student.  Perky people are in broadcasting so that's not so much of a problem but print journalists tend to take themselves pretty seriously.

 

The only controversial person on the Enquirer staff is Bronson, they need like 5 Bronsons stirring it up all the time, except get people who are actually good and funny writers.  Maggie Downs was a lightweight, she was positive, but really she was for grandmas more than for young adults.  If the Enquirer had any sense about it, they should start letting bloggers have space and run mostly unedited, this is the only way they'll restore any vitality.     

 

 

 

 

 

I have always sensed that a few Enquirer writers seem bitter about living their adult lives in Cincinnati, in a place where they never imagined being as a child or journalism student.  

 

That makes me feel sad.  I wish cincy didnt have this rep. of being some bland, colorless midwestern place cuz its NOT.

How much is the Cincinnati Post worth?  Would Scripps just kill it off after the contract is up with Gannett & the Cincinnati Enquirer?  Where do they print their paper today?  Do they share the printing press with the Enquirer?

 

Yes, the Post shares the Enquirer's printing press.  This is why their end is near.  The contract they have with the Enquirer is running up and it will not be renewed, nor will the Post have enough money to buy their own printing press.  The end is near for the press and the obscene reporting from the Enquirer will continue.

I wonder how much the naming rights for the Post are worth?  Also when did they stop printing their own paper?

It's funny this thread was created yesterday, because I canceled my Cincinnati Enquirer subscription last Friday!

 

I got sick of an extremely biased newspaper and let them know in detail why I wanted to cancel my subscription.

You would think NKY had 1 million people based on the attention they get....

 

The best newspapers in Ohio are the Dayton Daily News (liberal), the Columbus Dispatch (moderate/leaning left) and the Akron Beacon Journal (liberal). They all reflect the politics of the people of those cities and they always write postive articles about their cities and regions. I love those papers. Toledo's newspaper is liberal but it seems like it's too small of a newspaper. The Cleveland Plain Dealer is very anti-Cleveland. It never writes positive articles about the city. It is ashame.

 

I live near Pittsburgh and I read the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in print every day. It is awesome. It is liberal and it always writes postive articles about the city and region. It also bashes Republicans all of the time. I love it.

^FWIW, the leftward leaning of the Dispatch is a recent development (last 5-10 years)

Though the family who owns the Dispatch have always been part of the Columbus financial structure, so they have a reason to keep Columbus in a good light.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060815/ENT/308150025/-1/rss

 

This was the #1 news story under my RSS feed from the Enquirer, why is this the lead/top story in a Cincinnati Paper?  I don't give a damn about a Stones concert in Kentucky, especially in Louisville.  Someone needs to shake some people in the Enquirer.  It is obvious that it was a slow day in crime so since they couldn't fill the paper with an anti city blurb or a murder headline so they went with a Louisville story.

 

Such a sad city paper... It disgusts me!

 

Here is the story:

 

Stones’ Louisville show almost sold out

E. S. WADLINGTON III | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

On Aug. 7, the Rolling Stones announced that the band would bring its “A Bigger Bang Tour” to Churchill Downs in Louisville on Sept. 29.

 

The 50,000 tickets went on sale at 10 a.m. Monday but are scarce today.

 

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Yeah it would have been a good opportunity to do a story on The Edge Condo Tower project.  But you're right...they already did a story, a week or so ago, stating that the condo market downtown is on a downturn (their stats only showed a downturn for Nky), so why would they want to refute their negative/incorrect statement about the city :wtf:

The Cincinnati market is heavily wealthy and heavily redneck.

 

Uh...hmmm...

The media doesn't give a shit about the comparatively small number of liberals who live within the city limits (nor the African-American minority present there).

 

1) African-Americans are, statistically, a minority in the city of Cincinnati - but then, so are white folks.  48.8% of the population is one-race white; 46% is one-race black (from the census bureau)

2) What do you base the Enquirer's racism on?  I agree they're to the right editorially, that they prefer sensationalism over perspective, negativism over optimism, and I would assert their writers often lack a basic understanding of things like math and logic - but I would be interested in learning how this skews particularly anti-black.

 

Ah...given your emphasis on media-market, I'll assume you meant to say African-Americans are a minority in their market, rather than among those "who live within the city limits"...and thus, is your contention that their not giving a shit about the city equates to not giving a shit about its in-large-part-black residents?  I can go with that, though I'd attribute it to anti-city, not anti-minority...

This isn't a Cincinnati thing either, this is the general direction of AMERICA. The Fox News rise to cable dominance represents the white-washed view of news that Americans are asking for. :cry:

 

I'd argue it has everything to do with America's exurban explosion post-1990. People (well, well-to-do white people) are living further from those different from themselves. They have an increasingly warped sense of reality, and the media (shit like Fox News, MSNBC, the Enquirer, etc.) is playing a big role in that. More and more journalists today are coming from conservative backgrounds. This is even the case at a liberal communications powerhouse like OU. Most journalists are still moderate, but it's chaning fast.

 

I would be especially interested in seeing some examples from the glory days when people had full access to wide-perspective, well-developed diverse sources of news.  When exactly was this?  The days of three major news networks, two city papers, and nothing else?  Honestly, I'd argue we have never had access to more diverse sources of information than we have today, and anyone who asserts otherwise is delusional.  A little thing called "the internet" has been catching on for quite some time now - you should check it out!  You can actually see what individuals in various parts of the world have to say!  It's really crazy...