January 23, 201213 yr Not to be a debbie downer, but the Facebook commenting platform has issues when: a. The article title or URL changes. For the Enquirer, this happens quite frequently. For instance, when an article is breaking and more information is later added, the title and/or the URL changes which erases any prior comments. b. Mobile versions can have different URL's than the regular online versions, which can have different comments. Not all articles have this issue and it seems to have mostly gone away. c. Comments are moderated by generally on person (who has the developer ID), but it can also be policed by the community. So if enough people mark your comments as abusive, then they are wiped. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's been like this on all of the Gannett papers (e.g. Courier-Journal).
January 23, 201213 yr Not to be a debbie downer, but the Facebook commenting platform has issues when: a. The article title or URL changes. For the Enquirer, this happens quite frequently. For instance, when an article is breaking and more information is later added, the title and/or the URL changes which erases any prior comments. b. Mobile versions can have different URL's than the regular online versions, which can have different comments. Not all articles have this issue and it seems to have mostly gone away. c. Comments are moderated by generally on person (who has the developer ID), but it can also be policed by the community. So if enough people mark your comments as abusive, then they are wiped. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's been like this on all of the Gannett papers (e.g. Courier-Journal). Not saying there is a conspiracy theory however I am quite sure that none of those three reasons applied with regard to the countless articles I have seen where comments disappear in their entirety. What I have observed is a simple wholesale elimination after a few days. I suspect there is another technical reason stemming from the typically shoddy website operations of the Enquirer.
January 23, 201213 yr Well, it only takes 5 reports of an abusive comment to get a comment removed in typical cases - so 5 fake accounts or 5 people who disagree (e.g. COAST) could have it removed fairly easily. For that article, though, I'm seeing only two comments, made 4 hours ago. Were you thinking of the NKY version? It was located at http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120120/NEWS/301200126. There are also multiple variations of the same article, with different URL's that are now gone as the article URL structure was changed: Today: news.cincinnati.com/article/20120120/NEWS0108/301200126/Letter-Smitherman-has-conflict nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120120/NEWS/301200126/Letter-Smitherman-has-conflict news.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120120/NEWS0108/301200126/Letter-Smitherman-has-conflict communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120120/NEWS0108/Letter-Smitherman-has-conflict communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120120/NEWS0108/301200126/Letter-Smitherman-has-conflict communitypress.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120120/NEWS0108/301200126 news.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120120/NEWS/301200126/Letter-Smitherman-has-conflict
January 23, 201213 yr Apparently Gannett has never heard of the idea of a permalink, which is routine for just about every other news website and blog in existence. Nothing like clicking on a link to an Enquirer article here on UO that's more than a couple weeks old and getting the dreaded "404 Not Found" error page. And of course, they'll scream bloody murder if you get around that problem by just copying and pasting the article in its entirety. Sometimes I'm convinced that they're deliberately trying to make their website as worthless and unusable as possible in the hopes that people will rush out and buy the print edition. You know, just like how people rushed to buy CD's when the music industry did everything in their power to make downloading as difficult as possible. :roll:
January 24, 201213 yr The Enquirer routinely scrubs comments from an article, particularly from "controversial" topics. That's why I make sure that my comments also post to my Facebook, thus making it easy to cut & paste my comments back into the scrubbed comments forum, which I just did with the Slitherman article.
February 4, 201213 yr Apology for online conduct 02/03/12 at 11:54am by Letters Editor | 11 Comments I want to publicly apologize for some of the silly and trivial comments that I have made on this site. There still lives in me the “so’s your old man” syndrome. I have not followed my mothers admonition in these situations to consider the source of comments before you respond. The conduct that I have exhibited does not solve anything. It may give me pleasure but it doesn’t improve anything. I am truly sorry and I will try to resist the temptation in the future. Dick Schladen Aurora, Ind.
February 22, 201213 yr This will mark an end of the Enquirer's usefulness as a tool to pander to the exburbs. Who is going to pay to read the Enquirer's awful 'journalism' online? Fewer and fewer people are willing to pay to read the Enquirer in print, as evidenced by their declining subscription rates. Cincinnati Enquirer, Gannett to add paywalls for its newspaper websites Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 3:06pm EST Gannett Co. Inc. plans to switch its 80 community newspapers to a pay model for their Web sites by the end of the yea http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2012/02/22/cincinnati-enquirer-gannett-to-add.html
February 22, 201213 yr This will mark an end of the Enquirer's usefulness as a tool to pander to the exburbs. Who is going to pay to read the Enquirer's awful 'journalism' online? Fewer and fewer people are willing to pay to read the Enquirer in print, as evidenced by their declining subscription rates. Cincinnati Enquirer, Gannett to add paywalls for its newspaper websites Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 3:06pm EST Gannett Co. Inc. plans to switch its 80 community newspapers to a pay model for their Web sites by the end of the yea http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2012/02/22/cincinnati-enquirer-gannett-to-add.html Which means suburbanites will become even more ill-informed with AM radio . By the way, Mark Miller just tweeted "Islamic extremists love streetcars". These people are the 'experts' for 700wlw
February 22, 201213 yr This will mark an end of the Enquirer's usefulness as a tool to pander to the exburbs. Who is going to pay to read the Enquirer's awful 'journalism' online? Fewer and fewer people are willing to pay to read the Enquirer in print, as evidenced by their declining subscription rates. Cincinnati Enquirer, Gannett to add paywalls for its newspaper websites Date: Wednesday, February 22, 2012, 3:06pm EST Gannett Co. Inc. plans to switch its 80 community newspapers to a pay model for their Web sites by the end of the yea http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2012/02/22/cincinnati-enquirer-gannett-to-add.html Yeah, uh Business Courier is worth paying for. NYT, worth paying for. Why would I pay the Enquirer just so I can read the AP articles they re-print? Those articles will already be online elsewhere. Even if I did pay, I'd just get bombarded with Furniture Fair ads. I really wonder how much longer they'll last.
February 22, 201213 yr ^ Exactly. A paywall works for the New York Times because it's the New York Times. The Cincinnati Enquirer is no New York Times.
February 22, 201213 yr Having it print in Columbus and now this will be their downfall. Rather quickly too. We need a combined Cincinnati Dayton Newspaper to cover things like the Streetcar fairly.
February 22, 201213 yr ^ Exactly. A paywall works for the New York Times because it's the New York Times. The Cincinnati Enquirer is no New York Times. Not doing too hot: http://www.boston.com/Boston/businessupdates/2012/02/times-reports-profit-drop-and-sells-more-its-stake-the-red-sox/CAddiW8auMI8YqzPeFKmDK/index.html And Gannett (current owner of the Enquirer) is exploring a paywall option for all of its newspapers.
February 23, 201213 yr I have heard people griping about NYT delivery lately (in Northside) That being said, I just started paying for the Bizniz Courier & so far am quite happy with it. Dunno what my price point will be for the Enquirer. I skim the headlines & frequently find absolutely nothing. I almost always find something in the Springfield or Dayton papers.
February 23, 201213 yr this was posted on the Cinti streetcar thread which seems to have become a Cincinnati catch all thread..... Cincinnati Enquirer, Gannett to add paywalls for its newspaper websites Change to take place by the end of the year - USA Today will stay free http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2012/02/22/cincinnati-enquirer-gannett-to-add.html
February 23, 201213 yr Who is going to pay to read the Enquirer's awful 'journalism' online? Fewer and fewer people are willing to pay to read the Enquirer in print, as evidenced by their declining subscription rates. I think they figured out that most people aren't willing to pay for something on paper that they can get for free online. This is an attempt to boost subscriptions, digital or physical.
February 23, 201213 yr Here's the problem with Gannett's plan; in Cincinnati as in most cities we have four TV stations all of whom cover local news at least as well as the Fishwrap Enquirer does. Those stations do not and likely will not setup pay walls for their websites, thus there are plenty of options for free local news and sports info. Because of those other free news options, plus thousands of sites for national/int'l news, plus blogs that are devoted to local news, dining & entertainment etc, there's little incentive to pay for access to the Enquirer's website. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if the TV stations didn't take advantage of the situation and improve their own websites in order to draw those who are unwilling to pay to access the Enquirer's website.
February 23, 201213 yr I'm an online business courier subscribe but will never subscribe to the Enquirer. My one complaint with my Biz Courier subscription is that not ENOUGH articles are subscriber only. Hoping that after Enquirer moves to pay model Biz Courier boosts their number of subscription articles.
February 23, 201213 yr Having it print in Columbus and now this will be their downfall. Rather quickly too. We need a combined Cincinnati Dayton Newspaper to cover things like the Streetcar fairly. I thought the best option for that would have been for the Dayton Daily News to absorb the Post after the JOA ended.
February 23, 201213 yr Having it print in Columbus and now this will be their downfall. Rather quickly too. We need a combined Cincinnati Dayton Newspaper to cover things like the Streetcar fairly. I thought the best option for that would have been for the Dayton Daily News to absorb the Post after the JOA ended. DDN was supportive of the 3C project when other "mainstream" media was not. If I lived in the Cincinnati-Dayton metroplex, I'd get that paper over the Enquirer---and I'd TELL the Enquirer that I was moving on and why.
February 23, 201213 yr I'd be first in line for a CIN-DAY paper. Seems possible. Heck, look at the DDN Sports page. Just today there are two articles by Enquirer's John Fay and one by Joe Reedy. What if a model like that were applied to other local/regional issues? I think the Dayton area would be interested in things like the streetcar, casino, Brent Spence Bridge. Side note: it is interesting to me when something happens in the area between CIN and DAY and both papers cover it. It's like the in-between area gets twice the news it deserves. (Example: alpaca beating)
February 23, 201213 yr Newspapers as a whole are dinosaurs that are rapidly nearing extinction. Even venerable stalwarts like the New York Times are transitioning to new formats. Companies like Gannett kept their head in the sand for too long and tried to pretend the internet didn't exist, then they tried to fight it, and now they're making one pathetic attempt after another to catch up. Starting a new newspaper today would be like starting a telegraph company after everybody has already bought a telephone.
February 23, 201213 yr Not a new newspaper, but rather existing media adopting a more regional perspective.
February 23, 201213 yr What I've noticed up here is that there's been an explosion of free papers/magazines. There used to be just The Other Paper and later Columbus Alive!. Now there's 614 Magazaine, The Onion, one for the gay community that I can't remember the name of right now, C Magazine and a whole host of little ones that aren't necessarily new like Short North Gazette and the Franklinton one. The Dispatch bought the Other Paper recently, already owned Columbus Alive! and brought The Onion to town. Therefore The Disptach knows that there's money in them. What if regular papers were free instead of an entire dollar like they are now. It wasn't that long ago that they were 35 cents. The paper has turned into a luxury item! If the paper was free, they could throw them in bins like they do with the free papers, and subscribers would just pay the postage to have the mailman deliver 'em to people's houses. Circulation bounces back, subscribers get the paper cheaper than now and the USPS gets a boost. Of course, if it was that easy or viable they would have done it by now.
February 23, 201213 yr Newspapers as a whole are dinosaurs that are rapidly nearing extinction. Even venerable stalwarts like the New York Times are transitioning to new formats. Companies like Gannett kept their head in the sand for too long and tried to pretend the internet didn't exist, then they tried to fight it, and now they're making one pathetic attempt after another to catch up. Starting a new newspaper today would be like starting a telegraph company after everybody has already bought a telephone. You could say the same about the music industry. They still have their heads up their butts in regards to the internet and don't want to change.
February 23, 201213 yr >an explosion of free papers/magazines Don't forget UWeekly, Central Ohio's Most Essential Newspaper.
February 23, 201213 yr Having it print in Columbus and now this will be their downfall. Rather quickly too. We need a combined Cincinnati Dayton Newspaper to cover things like the Streetcar fairly. I thought the best option for that would have been for the Dayton Daily News to absorb the Post after the JOA ended. DDN was supportive of the 3C project when other "mainstream" media was not. If I lived in the Cincinnati-Dayton metroplex, I'd get that paper over the Enquirer---and I'd TELL the Enquirer that I was moving on and why. Dayton was clearly the biggest beneficiary from 3C. Being close to both Cincy and Cbus (bigger cities with more amenities), Daytonians were in line to get some really awesome service. Anyone in Dayton would have to be a complete buffoon not to support 3C. The DDN had to realize this. (Columbus was the next city to get the most, since they also have no rail service currently. Then Cincy, since going to Cleveland then hopping the train to the east coast would actually be less time on the train than the winding Cardinal. Cleveland was set to receive the least benefit, but it would be useful even for them.)
February 23, 201213 yr >an explosion of free papers/magazines Don't forget UWeekly, Central Ohio's Most Essential Newspaper. I can't read that thing because it reminds me of how unpleasant it must be to be in college as compared to when I was in school. It's a bunch of Blackboard, WoW, pajamas and terror about landing a job. What's gone on with papers is that there are two entire generations already that refuse to pay for information. No more mailing out a SASE and $3 for a shred of one-way information out the back of a magazine. No more calling a 900 number and paying $4 a minute when you get stuck in a Genesis game. No paying $100 for a list of auto auctions. Young people will still pay for knowledge, wisdom and entertainment, just not for information.
March 19, 201213 yr Well I found one of their papers that started the subscription already. http://www.tallahassee.com/ $9.95 a month.
March 19, 201213 yr Well I found one of their papers that started the subscription already. http://www.tallahassee.com/ $9.95 a month. ugh - trying to break that down to $/article
March 28, 201213 yr Howard Wilkinson to retire "Political columnist Howard Wilkinson and longtime photographer Michael Keating are among the 26 employees who are leaving The Enquirer as part of a buyout deal." http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/blog-3195-wilkinson_keating_leave_the_enquirer.html not good
March 28, 201213 yr So how many employees does The Enquirer have at this point? 50? counting interns & co-ops?
March 28, 201213 yr Keating was easily their best photographer they had on staff and a very nice guy if you ever met him. And now they're gonna put up a pay wall. I give them six months into the pay wall before they fold.
June 18, 201212 yr Press Club of Clevo honors Ohio journalism. The Business Courier made the list. The Enquirer is ominously missing. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/press-club-cleveland-honors-best-013000352.html
June 27, 201212 yr preparedness is ok but this really comes off as fear mongering to me World Choir Games concern: Mystery illness "Confronting an illness they haven’t seen before is the biggest fear for local health officials heading into the World Choir Games. As 15,000 participants from 64 countries and 22 states prepare to descend on Greater Cincinnati for the event that runs July 4-14, health officials are preparing a set of measures that goes beyond even the normal planning for a one-time event drawing thousands of people." http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120626/NEWS/306260069/Are-mystery-illnesses-Choir-Games-concern-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
June 27, 201212 yr Sigh. The FEI World Equestrian Games that was held in Lexington, Kentucky in from Sept. 25 - Oct. 10, 2010 included 58 countries and 507,000 spectators. Not a single case of illness that would cause any international concern.
July 12, 201212 yr ^ HAH I saw comments referring to the title, but didn't actually see it with my own eyes. Thanks!
July 12, 201212 yr ^ This is what happens when you have universal copy desks putting together the Enquirer and about three or four other Gannet papers on a given night. These mistakes will continue and likely get worse. Plus, with the paper being designed and edited outside of Cincinnati - in Louisville - by copy editors unfamiliar with the city, you can expect more of the kind of headline yesterday that originally identified the man killed in China as being from "Indian Hills." Someone eventually caught it and fixed it, but the errors are getting ridiculous. The people copy editing and writing headlines have no idea what Indian Hill is and wouldn't know the difference between Indian Hill and Price Hill. It's sad that a city our size is being served by such an amateurish afterthought of a chain newspaper. Smaller cities such as Omaha, Norfolk, Orlando, Reno, Colorado Springs, Fargo, etc. are served by gems of newspapers, and we're stuck with the downsized piece of crap we have. Pathetic really. What I wouldn't give to have the Cincinnati Post back in the Enquirer's place.
July 13, 201212 yr Cincinnati's best hope is for the Blocks or the Wolfes to buy the paper. Whether you agree with their editorial pages or not, the Blade and Dispatch are still real papers.
July 24, 201212 yr So if I was sitting on a $500 million fortune, I suppose I could budget for someone to babysit the Enquirer's comment section:
July 24, 201212 yr Based on your screenshot and the time stamps, it looks like this Mary Nippert just went through at one time and thanked people for writing nice things... *yawn*
July 24, 201212 yr Yep, have to agree with jmecklenborg (post #239) on this one... Never have I witnessed, on the front page of The Enquirer, such a fawning homage to one of Cincinnati's high and mighty. Gawd, you'd think that either Joan of Arc or Elizabeth I had died and left "her city" adrift! Without question, Mary Nippert's wealth benefited many artful local endeavors, but, sorry, I can't seem to forget that she was also one of the city's most pampered and coddled doyens of its uber-rich.
July 24, 201212 yr You appear to be correct...I took that screen shot obviously soon after this "Marry Nippert" posted all those thank-yous, and no more have appeared. But look at the comments now -- somebody posting under a fake Facebook account posted some stuff about the Gamble House and greenacres. Now that was definitely a plant by somebody or something, and I'm amazed it hasn't been taken down. Just think for a moment about all the money that's going to be changing hands around Wednesday or Thursday of this week, the moment after the death cirtificate starts making the rounds.
August 11, 201212 yr FWIW: The Enquirer claims that they are not adding a paywall, but calling it "metered content" - much like the New York Times. When you read x amount of articles per month, then you have to pay for access. If that's not a paywall after you hit the x amount, I don't know what is. Said access will apparently not apply to severe thunderstorm/emergency information - but the last place I go for weather info is the Enquirer.
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