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Few quick ones of the Peer on 7th 

 

From High

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I know 200 E. 5th has gotten a few different proposals, but I think this one may be new. 7-stories with 186 units. 

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4 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

I know 200 E. 5th has gotten a few different proposals, but I think this one may be new. 7-stories with 186 units. 

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Well that’s way better than the original proposal. I think it was originally four stories?

51 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Well that’s way better than the original proposal. I think it was originally four stories?

Correct, it was a 4 story brick building that looked really good. Will be interesting to see what this proposal looks like. Worried it will be another ugly mess like the Aubrey just down the road. 

Interesting... Panzica is the Cleveland developer behind Bridgeworks. I wonder if they are doing it in some kind of partnership with Lykens? Or if he sold it and cashed out

 

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29 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

Interesting... Panzica is the Cleveland developer behind Bridgeworks. I wonder if they are doing it in some kind of partnership with Lykens? Or if he sold it and cashed out

 

The property sold in 2022 to whoever Lakshmi is. They have no other properties and I was unable to find any other info on them. 

 

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4th & 5th

 

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Peer on 7th

 

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3 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said:

 

Peer on 7th

 

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This is looking better than I thought it would. The more narrow cut out looks so much better than the buildings that have it 4-5 wide. 

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Rice Paddy site on N Grant

 

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Couple quick ones from yesterday evening of Crossline and 4th & 5th 

 

From the corner of N 6th St and E 6th Ave

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I really don't like the 4th and 5th project. It's one of the most monolithic structures and they billed themselves on taking from surrounding historic architecture but it didn't turn out that way at all. It's a nearly 500ft street wall with no breaks except the curb cut and it sucks. 

 

Another case of developers not being pushed hard enough for thoughtful architecture.  It's not the density, height or anything I have an issue with. It's just 500 ft of wall. 

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Peer on 7th

 

From 7th Ave

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Few different looks at Zora's House

 

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Few different looks at 4th & 5th

 

 

From Weinland Park Elementary

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From Weinland Park

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From directly across 4th St

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So this was just posted on the permits page, hopefully we get to see some renderings soon. I’m curious if they are going away from the 7 story or not, since the newest filing doesn’t mention height? 
 

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5th Ave is really filling in!

32 minutes ago, Pablo said:

5th Ave is really filling in!

There are a lot more spots between 3rd and 4th that can be filled in also 

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

There are a lot more spots between 3rd and 4th that can be filled in also 

Yup - lots of opportunities here....

 

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5 hours ago, Pablo said:

Yup - lots of opportunities here....

 

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Only in Columbus would a lock shop take up that much real estate 

To be fair, it's more than a lock shop. Or at least used to be. The lock shop was originally just the east half of the block. Then they expanded in to security in the 80s and 90s I believe. They did commercial and residential full security system installation and monitoring, hence the additional space needed for office and what required decent warehouse space. And when you've owned the land for 50 years, it's paid off, and you've been in business over 100, your concern isn't necessarily whether you own too much land. 

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3 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

To be fair, it's more than a lock shop. Or at least used to be. The lock shop was originally just the east half of the block. Then they expanded in to security in the 80s and 90s I believe. They did commercial and residential full security system installation and monitoring, hence the additional space needed for office and what required decent warehouse space. And when you've owned the land for 50 years, it's paid off, and you've been in business over 100, your concern isn't necessarily whether you own too much land. 


100%… it’s a legacy business… also back in the day the tow lot was behind so just be thankful that doesn’t exist there anymore 

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Yikes 

 

Seven-Story Development Proposed for Key Intersection

 

A new plan for a prominent Weinland Park intersection is working its way through the approval process. Geis Companies and developer Michael Panzica, both based in northeast Ohio, have submitted a proposal to build a 186-unit mixed-use development at 200 E. Fifth Ave.

 

The development would be made up of two buildings, one on the former Beer Barn site and the other on the northern portion of the site – a pedestrian bridge would provide a connection between the two buildings for residents on floors three through seven. A two-level parking garage and a small surface lot would provide a total of 134 parking spaces for the development, and two ground floor retail storefronts are shown on the submitted site plan.

 

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You can tell by all these black and dark gray buildings that a lot of people haven't seen what Pittsburgh looked like in the 1940s.

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Yikes indeed but par for the course for Geis (as Cleveland forumers are well aware) 

25 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

Yikes indeed but par for the course for Geis (as Cleveland forumers are well aware) 

I’m hoping they get some push back, because this god awful, I don’t understand why it’s two separate buildings but they look identical, just make it one at that point. 

2 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I’m hoping they get some push back, because this god awful, I don’t understand why it’s two separate buildings but they look identical, just make it one at that point. 

 

Unfortunately the University Area Commission is limited in the kind of push back they can give as opposed to the UIDRB which provides an additional layer of review to High St projects. The UAC can only recommend on requested zoning variances, as opposed to also being required to approve general design and aesthetic details

 

I think we're starting to see clear evidence that this lack of architectural review is leading to lower design quality projects on the north side of 5th Ave vs the south, which is under IVC architectural review. In my opinion including this proposal, 4 of the 5 large projects on the north side of 5th between High and the railroad are of subpar quality (all except Crossline). The south side has seen fewer projects overall but all 3 to me are of very good architectural and urban design quality 

1 minute ago, NW24HX said:

 

Unfortunately the University Area Commission is limited in the kind of push back they can give as opposed to the UIDRB which provides an additional layer of review to High St projects. The UAC can only recommend on requested zoning variances, as opposed to also being required to approve general design and aesthetic details

 

I think we're starting to see clear evidence that this lack of architectural review is leading to lower design quality projects on the north side of 5th Ave vs the south, which is under IVC architectural review. In my opinion including this proposal, 4 of the 5 large projects on the north side of 5th between High and the railroad are of subpar quality (all except Crossline). The south side has seen fewer projects overall but all 3 to me are of very good architectural and urban design quality 

I agree 100%. The design north in that area is horrible. 

Definitely don’t like the design but I’m just happy it has ground floor retail.

I really don't think it's that bad. Bland, yes. But bad, no. Two building breaks it up a little bit and seems less monolithic than the 4th and 5th project across the street.   I would not advocate for just making it one unless the architecture significantly changes. Plus there is an alley there which is most likely why it's separated. 

 

Brick and what appears to be metal panels are going to age much better than the stucco and composite board that the Aubrey is already showing wear from. And it doesn't have those giant amenity caverns facing the street like Uncommon, Nicholas, etc. 

 

Feels more appropriate for a denser area, area like the AD perhaps but I'll take 10 more of these over Aubrey's and Uncommons, and 100 of these over the current design of the affordable housing proposal at CSCC. For quick, substantial infill, this works. 

 

Remember, every architectural era has its go to format. This is our current era. It's not unique to Geis, Columbus, Cleveland, or any one city. These style ubiquitous across the country, big and small cities alike. 

26 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

Brick and what appears to be metal panels are going to age much better than the stucco and composite board that the Aubrey is already showing wear from

That building is horrible. It looked bad right as it was finished. The trim work around the bump outs don’t even touch the ground completely in certain parts. It’s not a shock they haven’t filled their ground floor retail spaces.

At least this will reduce the effect of the Thrive monolith across the street.....

 

I'm a glass half full guy!

 

Peer on 7th

 

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Seven-Story Weinland Park Project Gets Visual Overhaul

 

A proposed development that was just unveiled last week for a prominent corner in Weinland Park has already received a fairly major visual overhaul. If built as planned, the seven-story building from GEIS Companies would be located at the northwest corner of Fourth Street and Fifth Avenue.

 

Originally presented with a very dark and uniform slate-gray appearance, new visuals presented to the Weinland Park Community Civic Association earlier this week show new treatments with a mixed gray, beige and off-white color scheme.

 

In addition to the color changes, Wilkos noted other improvements that include balconies, front door access for ground-floor units, changes to the parking garage, and additional architectural details.

 

“The proposal that was approved by University Area zoning committee Monday was much improved and literally had addressed nearly every issue raised,” added Wilkos.

 

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Well, that looks better!

31 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Well, that looks better!

The 5 story pedestrian bridge looks a little funny, but yeah, the overall changes look pretty decent. 

I still think they should add some sort of finish on the roof line so it doesn't look so boxy. 

Is it just me, or does anyone else think there's a missed opportunity for some kind of green roof or shared resident rooftop space on some of these projects? That's a whole lot of bland roof. 

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18 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

Is it just me, or does anyone else think there's a missed opportunity for some kind of green roof or shared resident rooftop space on some of these projects? That's a whole lot of bland roof. 

You’re not wrong, I wish the city would be push for some green roofs or solar installation. 

On 4/4/2024 at 5:19 PM, jonoh81 said:

Is it just me, or does anyone else think there's a missed opportunity for some kind of green roof or shared resident rooftop space on some of these projects? That's a whole lot of bland roof. 

Surprised they didn't do anything on top of the garage. Seems like a no brainer for a shared patio space.  They don't have to go all out on a pool or anything, just maybe some pavers, planter boxes, chairs, and a grill/firepit. 

On 4/4/2024 at 5:19 PM, jonoh81 said:

Is it just me, or does anyone else think there's a missed opportunity for some kind of green roof or shared resident rooftop space on some of these projects? That's a whole lot of bland roof. 

According to the Trive website, the 4th and 5th project will have a rooftop pool deck. 

Weinland Park duplexes a first for nonprofit developer

 

The Central Ohio Community Land Trust, a subsidiary of the Central Ohio Community Improvement Corp., has wrapped up construction on its first two duplex buildings, adding four new units to Weinland Park.

 

COCIC worked with the Columbus Land Bank in 2019 to buy the lots, then demolished the structures that had been there and built the new structures. The units will sell for no more than $199,000.

 

The duplexes are the first non-single-family homes that the organization has built. Curtiss Williams, executive director of COCIC, in 2022 said the organization’s future plans included branching into multifamily or other denser development.

 

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Cleveland developers take the lead on Beer Barn project in Weinland Park

 

Cleveland-area developers Geis Cos. and Michael Panzica want to build two new buildings at 200 E. 5th Ave., the site formerly home to the Mid-America Beer Barn store.

 

Plans submitted to the city of Columbus show two buildings connected via a pedestrian bridge with 186 apartments total. The buildings would be seven-stories, according to city documents. The developers are asking for variances from Columbus City Council for the building's height and to allow apartments on the ground floor, among other reasons.

 

The apartments would be a mix of studio, one- and two-bedrooms.

 

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Zora's House

 

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On 3/31/2024 at 9:24 PM, CbusOrBust said:

 

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I love how this project is turning out. 

 

I would absolutely love if the Kroger parking lot built units facing High St and E7th Ave and have a 2 or 3 story garage for the shoppers behind the units or below the units. 

39 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said:

I love how this project is turning out. 

 

I would absolutely love if the Kroger parking lot built units facing High St and E7th Ave and have a 2 or 3 story garage for the shoppers behind the units or below the units. 

My dream would be for the parking lot to get turned into a 7-8 story with Kroger on the bottom. Then replace the current Kroger building with another apartment building. I am sad and don’t think it will happen anytime soon. 

5 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

My dream would be for the parking lot to get turned into a 7-8 story with Kroger on the bottom. Then replace the current Kroger building with another apartment building. I am sad and don’t think it will happen anytime soon. 

Take the OTR Kroger down in Cincinnati and put the same building where the parking lot is in the Short North.

Land Trust Celebrates Completion of 100th Home

 

A collection of neighborhood residents, elected officials, and business and nonprofit leaders gathered this morning in Weinland Park to celebrate a milestone for the area and for the Central Ohio Community Land Trust (COCLT).

 

The neighborhood was celebrating new affordable housing on a spot where a vacant, burned-out house once stood. For COCLT, the day was meant to mark the completion of the trust’s first multi-family home and the 100th affordable housing unit built by the organization since it was established in 2019.

 

The event included a ribbon cutting ceremony and tours of the new duplex, which is located at 1384-1386 N. Fifth St.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/land-trust-celebrates-completion-of-100th-home-bw1/

 

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