Posted March 21, 200817 yr Hey, this is fun! Until someone tells me to stop, or I run out of pictures, I'm going to keep posting. Thanks for all your comments, I get the impression that I'm maybe a little older than the typical UO member. I remember visiting downtown the first time to visit the Sterling Lindner Christmas tree just before they shut down, (I was maybe six). I've been an avid observer of the unique urban environment that is downtown Cleveland ever since.
March 21, 200817 yr simply amazing! please do not stop posting! The pictures featuring the arcades illustrate just how beautiful these structures are regardless of the respective time period's contrasting surrounding style.
March 21, 200817 yr Hey, this is fun! Until someone tells me to stop, or I run out of pictures, I'm going to keep posting. Trust me, no one is going to tell you to stop posting photos. These are excellent! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 21, 200817 yr Great stuff. In the photo of the Society Bank sign, the guy sitting on the steps of the soldiers' and sailors' monument is wearing a short-sleeved dress shirt with a tie. Some places that would be a fashion faux pas, but possibly not in Cleveland in the 80s. I'll defer to MayDay and MTS to make the call on that. :wink:
March 21, 200817 yr I just love these. Out of curiosity the apartments names "5 chimneys"-is there a story behind that name? I ask b/c there are apartments called 6 chimneys on Prospect that looks similar-see below. "the guy sitting on the steps of the soldiers' and sailors' monument is wearing a short-sleeved dress shirt with a tie. Some places that would be a fashion faux pas, but possibly not in Cleveland in the 80s". That was pretty typical back in the 80's , esp common in middle management/government, probably not law though.
March 21, 200817 yr Thanks again. These photos are fascinating, and it seems a time period that we don't see much of, as compared to the early 20th century, which is well represented in local historical photo collections. I'd kill for something like a Woolworth's Downtown now! Not to mention the dept. stores. Does anyone know where the Globe Iron Works was located?
March 21, 200817 yr I'll guarantee you will run out of pictures before someone tells you to stop. Here is another of the WMMS mural. Warning; these pictures were taken with a 110 camera back in 1984. That's right folks, Twisted Sister! :banger:
March 21, 200817 yr Thanks again. These photos are fascinating, and it seems a time period that we don't see much of, as compared to the early 20th century, which is well represented in local historical photo collections. I'd kill for something like a Woolworth's Downtown now! Not to mention the dept. stores. Does anyone know where the Globe Iron Works was located? I think Globe Iron was in the Flats...it burned down one night in 1994...if I remember correctly. I was at Metropolis that night and came outside to watch the fire, along with about 250 other people. What an AWESOME building...as my dad had a warehouse close to it at Center and Winslow. More info from PD archives...of course you can actually buy the article if you like. HOMELESS MAY HAVE STARTED BLAZE IN FLATS WAREHOUSE RESERVE TERMINALS BUILDING DATED TO SHIPBUILDING HEYDAY [FINAL / ALL Edition] The Plain Dealer - Cleveland, Ohio Author: DOUGLAS MONTERO PLAIN DEALER REPORTER Date: Nov 27, 1994 Start Page: 10.B Section: METRO Text Word Count: 622 Abstract (Document Summary) Burning debris landed on and damaged at least seven cars parked near the warehouse. Overall damage was estimated at more than $500,000, Fire Department Spokesman Jonathan Parries said. The fire began inside the northeast section of the building on Elm St. and quickly consumed the roof, weakened the walls and sent about three stories of bricks and wood onto the sidewalks, Battalion Chief Paul Marks and Parries said. "A preliminary investigation indicates the fire may have been started by Cleveland's homeless trying to stay warm," Parries said. "With the change in the weather, we might end up seeing more of these types of fires in abandoned buildings."
March 21, 200817 yr Out of curiosity the apartments names "5 chimneys"-is there a story behind that name? I ask b/c there are apartments called 6 chimneys on Prospect that looks similarSIX Chimneys. Sorry wrong number but, yes, that's the same place
March 21, 200817 yr The old Society Bank Picture! Oh goodness. Barney take a look over in the urbanbar thread. The whippersnappers outnumber us but there are many of us "people of a certain" age that have been around for a while. The Twisted Sister picture takes that cake!!! HUSH!!
March 21, 200817 yr SIX Chimneys. Sorry wrong number but, yes, that's the same place thanks, I thought that had to be it, or a twin building. 6 Chimneys is alive and well as a supported livng apartment building for persons with disabilities learning to be more independent.
March 21, 200817 yr I love the high rise construction photo... I was too young to remember that boom, but it kind of gives me chills to think about how it must've looked and how I'd feel to see all those cranes in the air again now.
March 21, 200817 yr Great stuff. In the photo of the Society Bank sign, the guy sitting on the steps of the soldiers' and sailors' monument is wearing a short-sleeved dress shirt with a tie. Some places that would be a fashion faux pas, but possibly not in Cleveland in the 80s. I'll defer to MayDay and MTS to make the call on that. :wink: There is NO such thing as a "short sleeved dress shirt", just as there is no such thing as a "short sleeved suit". If one is getting warm, one unbuttons one's cuffs and rolls up the sleeves. There is however NO doubt that these photos are awesome! And Barneyboy, I might be asking if I could host some of these on my site :-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
March 21, 200817 yr There is NO such thing as a "short sleeved dress shirt", just as there is no such thing as a "short sleeved suit". If one is getting warm, one unbuttons one's cuffs and rolls up the sleeves. There is however NO doubt that these photos are awesome! And Barneyboy, I might be asking if I could host some of these on my site :-) Elsa Klensch MayDay is correct. Short sleeve shirts are not appropriate office attire, unless designated as apart of a formal uniform.
March 21, 200817 yr The Society Bank sign was awesome at night, I can't find a photo but I did come across this while looking: http://www.howardmodels.com/Architectural-Scale-Models/BurgeeClev/
March 21, 200817 yr Thank you, thank you, thank you! I wonder what the Key Bank project discussion thread would have looked like had UO existed back then- I forgot what a loss the B of LE building was- that thing was beautiful! I believe 6 Chimneys had a big fire in 80s which is why it looks a little blander today (the reconstruction was on a tight budget).
March 21, 200817 yr Where was the B of LE building located? Beautiful indeed. Was it where the Marriott is now?
March 21, 200817 yr Where was the B of LE building located? Beautiful indeed. Was it where the Marriott is now?Yes it was. The building was well maintained, which couldn't be said for the Hippodrome, which was designed by the same architects Knox & Elliot. The Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers building also had an auditorium styled much like the Hippodrome. It's a shame anytime such a great building is lost, but at least it didn't suffer the indinity of being transformed into shiny new parking lot with a garage in the middle of it.
March 23, 200817 yr I'll guarantee you will run out of pictures before someone tells you to stop. That's right folks, Twisted Sister! :banger: I bet that was a KILLER show!
March 24, 200817 yr Yep, more great memories. But you're killing me Map Boy with this "I'm too young thing"! I don't remember the Stockbridge Hotel -- where is/was it? It's a beauty! The WMMS buzzard reminds me that some of my stoner buddies in high school were convinced that the buzzard's shirt wasn't adorned with palm trees but marijuana leaves. It's got the right number of leaves! "Summer's never a bummer on WMMS, Cleveland!" "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 24, 200817 yr Now try looking away from the mirror, MTS! ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 25, 200817 yr I don't remember the Stockbridge Hotel -- where is/was it? It's a beauty! It's still around. It's on Euclid Ave. before 36th St. About the only thing different is that the place had been renovated, and the neon sign in front is gone. BTW~ The Brass Door restaurant was/is across from the cascade staircase in TC. It was known before that as the Choo-Choo lounge and had a facade that was a recreation of an actual train car.
March 25, 200817 yr The WMMS buzzard reminds me that some of my stoner buddies in high school were convinced that the buzzard's shirt wasn't adorned with palm trees but marijuana leaves. It's got the right number of leaves! Does anyone also remember that buzzard before David Helton, when it was a bird perched on a "shroom"? Corporate Radio today would have an instant heart attack if anybody even suggested such a moniker.
March 25, 200817 yr Great pics again Barney! Any pics of the Flats before they transformed into the restaurant/bar/nightclub uses? https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
March 25, 200817 yr The transformation of the Flats started in the early 1970s, with D'Poo's, Fagans, Whistler's, etc. There were still pockets of vacant buildings into the 1980s, but it was pretty well redeveloped by the late 80s. I was in my early 20s when the Flats were hitting their stride in the late 80s -- great times! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 25, 200817 yr and let's don't forget the home of punk and new wave, the famous pirates cove in the first rockefeller warehouse (later peabodys) and also kindlers, the oldest bar in cleveland. i hope wolstein can save these two buildings and incorporate them somehow, the rest can go.
March 25, 200817 yr The transformation of the Flats started in the early 1970s, with D'Poo's, Fagans, Whistler's, etc. There were still pockets of vacant buildings into the 1980s, but it was pretty well redeveloped by the late 80s. I was in my early 20s when the Flats were hitting their stride in the late 80s -- great times! sigh.. http://youtube.com/watch?v=kIIA-iDaQHw&feature=related
March 25, 200817 yr I hate you and that friggin' song!!!! :whip: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 25, 200817 yr I hate you and that friggin' song!!!! :whip: awww. I chose the Doris Day version, because it's easier to digest. I could have played the barbra version. oye!
March 25, 200817 yr No Babs either. We better stop this or Mayday will rag on us for not using IM! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 12, 201014 yr This is an old thread but i've never seen the B of LE building before. It is beautiful. I love the height on it. Its a shame its gone.
August 13, 201014 yr A) this thread changed my life. How cool! B) I want to know what has become of the following buildings: Stockbridge Hotel The two modern buildings on the right Any recent pics of these places today? WELL DONE!!
August 13, 201014 yr The Stockbridge Apartments, 3328 Euclid Ave, is still standing (though I doubt that heavily rusted Chevy Nova still is!). You can do a Google streetview of this building at: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&wrapid=tlif12816612373282&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=3328+Euclid+Ave,+Cleveland,+OH&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=Lakewood,+OH&cid=0,0,9796645146536756576&ei=QZlkTJKcDoLhnAfu8LnNAQ&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQnwIwAA In the second picture, one of the two modern buildings at right is gone. The nearest building was the Hollenden Hotel (it was the second hotel so-named to occupy that spot, with the previous one being a beautiful 1800s gem that got demolished in the 1960s when we placed more value in brutalist efficiency). The modern Hollenden Hotel was demolished about 1988 or 89 for the 28-story Bank One Center, now Fifth Third Center. Read more about this building at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Third_Center. The modern building that's just beyond it is the McDonald Investment Center. Read more about this building at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_Investment_Center For a Google Streetview of Superior Avenue (also called Grand Army of the Republic Highway), look east from the marked at: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&wrapid=tlif12816612373282&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=3328+Euclid+Ave,+Cleveland,+OH&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=Lakewood,+OH&cid=0,0,9796645146536756576&ei=QZlkTJKcDoLhnAfu8LnNAQ&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQnwIwAA "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 13, 201014 yr BTW, here's the old Hollenden Hotel..... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 13, 201014 yr The Stockbridge Apartments, 3328 Euclid Ave, is still standing (though I doubt that heavily rusted Chevy Nova still is!). You can do a Google streetview of this building at: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&wrapid=tlif12816612373282&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=3328+Euclid+Ave,+Cleveland,+OH&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=Lakewood,+OH&cid=0,0,9796645146536756576&ei=QZlkTJKcDoLhnAfu8LnNAQ&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQnwIwAA In the second picture, one of the two modern buildings at right is gone. The nearest building was the Hollenden Hotel (it was the second hotel so-named to occupy that spot, with the previous one being a beautiful 1800s gem that got demolished in the 1960s when we placed more value in brutalist efficiency). The modern Hollenden Hotel was demolished about 1988 or 89 for the 28-story Bank One Center, now Fifth Third Center. Read more about this building at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Third_Center. The modern building that's just beyond it is the McDonald Investment Center. Read more about this building at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_Investment_Center For a Google Streetview of Superior Avenue (also called Grand Army of the Republic Highway), look east from the marked at: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&wrapid=tlif12816612373282&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=3328+Euclid+Ave,+Cleveland,+OH&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=Lakewood,+OH&cid=0,0,9796645146536756576&ei=QZlkTJKcDoLhnAfu8LnNAQ&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQnwIwAA You are so awesome, KJP. I am for some reason fascinated by the Stockbridge Hotel. Thanks for the update. Is the building vacant today? When did the Stockbridge close? What a cool piece of history!
August 13, 201014 yr You are so awesome, KJP. I am for some reason fascinated by the Stockbridge Hotel. Thanks for the update. Is the building vacant today? When did the Stockbridge close? What a cool piece of history! No, it's not vacant; it's an apartment building today.
August 13, 201014 yr "The modern building that's just beyond it is the McDonald Investment Center." fka McDonald Investment Center; it's been KeyBank Center for a while. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
August 13, 201014 yr That one is in my top 5, along with the weideman buildings, and the sterling welch / linder davis properties. At least there is something of "substance" where the hollenden was (even if the attached parking garage killed/continues to kill vincent and part of e. 6th) most of the losses around here just resulted in parking lots.
August 13, 201014 yr "The modern building that's just beyond it is the McDonald Investment Center." fka McDonald Investment Center; it's been KeyBank Center for a while. Gracias. I wasn't sure if KeyBank was part of the building's name. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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