Posted March 22, 200817 yr I think I just vomited in my mouth a little..Have fun with this one! Cincy Rating the Burbs 2008 Ranking the best of the Tristate's best Ah, the burbs. Those lovely neighborhoods with green lawns and homes with character and style, with easy access to highways and within walking distance of some of the area’s best amenities. It’s images like those that set the top suburbs in the Greater Cincinnati area apart from the others. Communities such as Amberley Village, Aurora, Fort Thomas, Glendale, Indian Hill, Madeira, Mariemont, Terrace Park and Wyoming have the homes where few look alike. Read More... Rankings: No. 1 Montgomery No. 2: Indian Hill No. 3: Mariemont No. 4: Amberley Village No. 5: Terrace Park No. 6: Mason No. 7: Mount Adams No. 8: Symmes Township No. 9: Hyde Park No. 10: Clear Creek Township No. 11: Wyoming No. 12: Deerfield Township No. 13: Mount Lookout No. 14: Liberty Township No. 15: West Chester
March 22, 200817 yr 1. Cincinnati 2. Cincinnati 3. Cincinnati 4. Cincinnati 5. Cincinnati 6. Covington 7. Wyoming 8. Mariemont 9. Glendale 10. Newport
March 22, 200817 yr Mount Adams? Hyde Park? Mt. Lookout? Burbs? "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 22, 200817 yr No. 7: Mount Adams You could call Mount Adams the city's original suburb No you couldn't, Mt Auburn was the city's original suburb :-P I grew up in Montgomery as a kid, it sucked!! The only thing cool about where I lived in Montgomery was that there was a big woods to play in behind the old house, that is until the bulldozers came in destroyed paradise. I went to the festival they had last year and I couldn't take more than a 1/2 hr of being there. I immediately became homesick for OTR and downtown area.
March 22, 200817 yr ^Isn't it silly to expect suburbanites to be open minded and enjoy the areas in the core, when people that live in the city can't appreciate what the suburbs have to offer? Indian Hill, Mariemont, Montgomery, Amberly, Glendale, Wyoming, and Terrace Park are all wonderful neighborhoods and definitely add a lot to the Cincinnati region. Why can't we have both a great city and great suburbs at the same time? LA doesn't seem to have a problem acknowledging it's great suburbs of Beverly Hills, Santa Monica, and Malibu. Chicago doesn't shun Evanston and Oak park do they? DC manages to coexist fairly peacefully with Bethesda, Chevy Chase, and Alexandria. I think this thinking that it's either a strong city or a strong suburbs is small town thinking. Mount Adams? Hyde Park? Mt. Lookout? Burbs? I wondered the same thing...
March 22, 200817 yr it's either a strong city or a strong suburbs is small town thinking. Much of the city vs suburbs isn't the denial that we have great suburbs here, we do. But we also have a great city that has been neglected by many of the suburbs who, because they are also part of Hamilton County, can shoot down things here that would help the city. One such issue would be the jail. It was desperately needed here in the city but was at the mercy of the county. The reason that we do not have this jail is because of many of the suburban people that voted it down, and issues like that can create some animosity with us who are here left without both a jail and we had sheriffs pulled from us at the same time. This is not small town thinking, it is big county politics. Mt Auburn was the city's original suburb Absolutely! "You could call Mount Adams the city’s original suburb" and I could call Cincy Mag Cincinnati's most trusted historical source, and I to would be wrong.
March 22, 200817 yr "Indian Hill, Mariemont, Montgomery, Amberly, Glendale, Wyoming, and Terrace Park are all wonderful neighborhoods and definitely add a lot to the Cincinnati region" Indian Hill and Amberly are mostly estate areas, not much "place" there. Not too familiar with Montgomery, but the others are, interestingly, pre-war railroad suburbs (and Mariemont, though a planned town, was sort of an interurban based suburb), so one does have a pleasant, human-scaled, walkable environment (with lots of mature trees and landscaping). @@@@ And once again they include the Springboro area (Clearcreek Township) as one of Cincys top suburbs. I really would be interested to see how many people that far out commute to Hamilton County. It could be so nuts now that there really are a lot Cincy-identified commuters living there now. Which reminds me of a story about how the outer reaches of Chicagoland are now overlapping the eastern suburbs of Rockford (there are economic factors pushing that that dont exist in this area).
March 22, 200817 yr it's either a strong city or a strong suburbs is small town thinking. Much of the city vs suburbs isn't the denial that we have great suburbs here, we do. But we also have a great city that has been neglected by many of the suburbs who, because they are also part of Hamilton County, can shoot down things here that would help the city. One such issue would be the jail. It was desperately needed here in the city but was at the mercy of the county. The reason that we do not have this jail is because of many of the suburban people that voted it down, and issues like that can create some animosity with us who are here left without both a jail and we had sheriffs pulled from us at the same time. This is not small town thinking, it is big county politics. Mt Auburn was the city's original suburb Absolutely! "You could call Mount Adams the city’s original suburb" and I could call Cincy Mag Cincinnati's most trusted historical source, and I to would be wrong. I'd be interested in seeing the numbers of who exactly voted against the jail. I had heard that the Jail issue failed miserably in the Black community, which there is obviously more of in the city than in the 'burbs. If anything, I would say that suburbanites would tend to have an exagerated view of crime in the city, and would vote for the new Jail out of fear alone. Now, if we're using the Metro Moves proposal as an example of the burbs voting down things that would help the city, sure. "Indian Hill, Mariemont, Montgomery, Amberly, Glendale, Wyoming, and Terrace Park are all wonderful neighborhoods and definitely add a lot to the Cincinnati region" Indian Hill and Amberly are mostly estate areas, not much "place" there. Not too familiar with Montgomery, but the others are, interestingly, pre-war railroad suburbs (and Mariemont, though a planned town, was sort of an interurban based suburb), so one does have a pleasant, human-scaled, walkable environment (with lots of mature trees and landscaping). @@@@ And once again they include the Springboro area (Clearcreek Township) as one of Cincys top suburbs. I really would be interested to see how many people that far out commute to Hamilton County. It could be so nuts now that there really are a lot Cincy-identified commuters living there now. Which reminds me of a story about how the outer reaches of Chicagoland are now overlapping the eastern suburbs of Rockford (there are economic factors pushing that that dont exist in this area). While Amberly and Indian Hill don't have business districts and are not great for the public, they both offer much to the Cincinnati region. Indian Hill is where many of the wealthiest people in the city live, and provides great buying power to the east side (see the growth of Kenwood). Also, Indian Hill has a ton of natural beauty with hiking trails, horse trails, farms and parks. They also have Stepping Stones, the center for the mentally challenged in the Metro area, and a great public school system and a great school in CCD. Amberly is the hub of Jewish culture in Cincinnati and has something like 6 or 7 Synagogues in the village. Also, the Jewish Community Center has just moved there, further cementing Amberly as an important force in the Jewish community of Cincinnati.
March 22, 200817 yr I'd be interested in seeing the numbers of who exactly voted against the jail. I had heard that the Jail issue failed miserably in the Black community, which there is obviously more of in the city than in the 'burbs. Perhaps of the city, but I do not believe the county plus you may be correct in real numbers, but not necessarily percentage voter turn out in that election cycle. I to would like to see the real numbers as I heard much of this information by way of seeing the amount of negative campaigning primarily in the suburbs and hearing the view points of the suburban vs urban circles I am in.
March 22, 200817 yr I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that Mt. Adams was never a separate municipal entity.
March 23, 200817 yr All I know about amberly is they don't have sidewalks. you are in deer park and the sidewalk stops at amberly. such hubris.
March 23, 200817 yr When I grew up in Amberly it was almost entirely Jewish. Now with Rollman Estates and Rollman Reserve it is a mix of everyone.
March 23, 200817 yr The list is a little offensive because it's basically depicting Creme-de-la-creme of the Cincinnati region, period and serves a latent dysfunction which suggests 3 of our neighborhoods are "good enough" as they rank them amongst "suburbs". In 2008, Mt. Adams and Hyde Park are urban neighborhoods, not suburban. Comparing Mt. Adams to Mason is apples to oranges. They really couldn't have picked any other archetypal yuppie neighborhoods to include that are inside Cincinnati's boundaries. Personally, I'd take East Walnut Hills/Obryonville over Mt. Lookout which has a very overrated square and lackluster housing.
March 23, 200817 yr My first summer job while in high school was with the city of Cincinnati (we're talking 1960's), and part of the application was your suburb, meaning which neighborhood you lived in. I recall the term suburb applied to neighborhoods in a number of contexts at that time. It would be interesting to see when and why that usage was dropped.
March 23, 200817 yr Somepeople use the term to mean anything not in the center city like our downtown so it could be a more broad based term for some.
March 23, 200817 yr Yeah, there is no definition of suburb other than an area outside of a center, so naturally it changes with time.
March 24, 200817 yr Amberley is at least within Cincinnati Public Schools (see it's Jewish history) and FWIW is within a city Catholic parish. Amberley was also an acceptable neighborhood for P&Gers while P. Ridge was not once someone got past a certain level in the company. This goes back ten-fifteen years at least. Amberley was the definitely the Jewish Indian Hill for awhile but isn't so much anymore and parts of it are having first ring suburb issues. There are a couple great parks in the middle of it as well.
March 24, 200817 yr There are a couple great parks in the middle of it as well. Including Cincinnati's French Park!
March 24, 200817 yr Amberley is at least within Cincinnati Public Schools (see it's Jewish history) and FWIW is within a city Catholic parish. Amberley was also an acceptable neighborhood for P&Gers while P. Ridge was not once someone got past a certain level in the company. This goes back ten-fifteen years at least. Amberley was the definitely the Jewish Indian Hill for awhile but isn't so much anymore and parts of it are having first ring suburb issues. There are a couple great parks in the middle of it as well. There are streets in P-Ridge with 250-700k homes.
March 24, 200817 yr There are streets in P-Ridge with 250-700k homes. The same could be said for OTR and Mt. Auburn.
March 24, 200817 yr ^No doubt. And I don't understand the whole P&G neighborhood faux pas thing. I'm living wherever the hell I want. When I was a teenager in P-Ridge, my stepdad worked for P&G at the time. An engineer for GE lived right down the street, and they lived in modest housing. This beauty is on the market for $115,000 dollars in P-Ridge. Too bad the future owner will look uncool in front of his/her coworkers! :roll:
March 24, 200817 yr Well there is a lot of truth to it however. I would not say that they are totally monolithic but it is what it is.
March 24, 200817 yr I wasn't saying that it's untrue, just that I think it's ridiculous and I don't understand that mindset.
March 24, 200817 yr I wasn't saying that it's untrue, just that I think it's ridiculous and I don't understand that mindset me either, we fight these preconceived notions daily
March 25, 200817 yr A.G. Lafley actually started his P&G career in PRidge/KHeights. I knew folks who were either babysat by his kids or vice versa, I don't remember the direction. Unfortunately, these are the kind of corporate decisions that do the city little justice.
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