That's probably the easiest way to get to Ridge since it would go over 480.

:wave:  :wave:  :wave:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,8513.0.html

Ah yes I thought I remembered those discussions..thanks KJP. 

The purple line as Pitchblende put together on google maps in 2008.

 

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109978057279629123261.00044c4b657ef7079cfa7&ll=41.45585,-81.649361&spn=0.220256,0.541077&t=p&z=12&dg=feature

 

Probably veering off topic here.

Probably veering off topic here.

 

Hence my reason for sharing that link.

Pitt Ohio is approved for Parma's largest job-creation project in a decade - Community Voices

By Jeannie Roberts, Parma Director of Communications

on August 28, 2015 at 3:56 PM, updated August 28, 2015 at 4:02 PM

 

In Parma's largest job-creation project in the past decade, Pitt Ohio has received approval to begin construction this fall on a 23-acre complex – a venture expected to eventually create 240 jobs here.

The Parma Planning Commission approved the trucking company's design plans for the trucking terminal, where Pitt Ohio will consolidate its area operations. The first phase of the project is the construction of an access road into the site before the end of the construction season this year.

 

Pitt Ohio anticipates completing the complex – located on Chevrolet Boulevard in front of the former GM Powertrain building – in the last quarter of 2016. When finished, the Pittsburgh-based company expects to employ 180 workers with a payroll of about $7 million and then add at least 60 jobs over the following two years.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/parma/index.ssf/2015/08/pitt_ohio_is_approved_for_parm.html

It says they will be consolidating area operations. The additional 60 jobs over two years makes it sound like new jobs will be added, but it seems like the initial 180 that will be brought to Parma will be moving from their current location at 15225 Industrial Parkway in Cleveland. I vaguely recall hearing in a previous article months ago, that they have other offices around here too that will be moving with this too.

 

Good for Parma, but not really good for Cleveland or the region as a whole, as now less taxes will be coming in off the same jobs moving down the street. Typical NEO...

Parmatown to be replaced by a giant strip mall with plenty of parking! Parma seems like such a visionary place...

 

http://www.cleveland.com/parma/index.ssf/2015/12/the_end_of_an_era_parmatown_ma.html#comments

Severance 2.0?

It was Severance when it still was going to have the indoor component. Now it's just any ole big box strip center.

Lipstick on a pig... Parmatown was failing because of not enogh parking???? If anywhere could use some Crocker Park magic (retail with 3-4 floors of residential or office) this is the place.

Well you all can take your shots at parma/parmatown, but this isn't for you.  Because it doesn't matter what form it takes, this is a 95 million dollar investment in an older community. It's vital that these inner ring city's remain sustainable. This investment is important to that community, it means something to them. Parmatown will remain a place where they go for goods and services that they need. These are the 'real' lifestyle centers.

Except there's literally zero reason to believe this will solve the issues Parmatown was having. The issues didn't stem from it being "too old" or "dated" or "not enough parking" they stemmed from the fact that South Park Mall handles the mall needs of the area south of the city more than adequately and the need for malls has declined drastically. There's no reason to believe this place is going to magically be popular and attract better retailers and fix the issues that are inherent with this location.

^Except it already is successful even mid-construction. Parmatown is in a very densely populated area, surrounded by neighborhoods. Many people walk there, they are not walking to Strongsville. I am in that area 3-4 times a week as my mom lives on one of the adjoining streets and I have watched that area transform, it is always busy. So there is every reason to believe it will be successful because it always has been. This project is every bit as important as what happens at Crocker/Eaton/Pinecrest. Even more so.

I honestly am just going to have to agree to disagree. If Parmatown was "always successful" then why have several rebrandings and now this massive overhaul necessary? I used to frequent Parmatown and it was in no way as busy as South Park or developments more comparable to what the new Parmatown will be such as Legacy Village or Crocker Park (minus the housing). Do people rely on it? Sure, I never said otherwise. But that doesn't negate the fact that the mall is in an area that, though dense, isn't rife with money which is becoming more and more of a necessity for physical malls as more and more shopping occurs online.

But that doesn't negate the fact that the mall is in an area that, though dense, isn't rife with money which is becoming more and more of a necessity for physical malls as more and more shopping occurs online.

 

I think we have lost our way at some point with the emergence of the 'lifestyle' center. Parma/Parma town is not trying to be something they are not, which is refreshing. The developer is not trying to add a Zara or a Uniqlo, that's not who they are. It is a destination for goods and services that people in the area need and use, that has not and will not change. The fact that the avg. income in the area doesn't chart at the top of some developers list won't keep it from being successful.

I'm in the middle on this.  I'm glad redevelopment is happening at the center of Parma, but I'm disappointed the format of that development isn't a little more modern.  This is Parma's downtown.  Couldn't they make it just a little more pedestrian-oriented? 

Does it have to be a lifestyle center or a strip mall? Can't it just be a mixed use neighborhood for residents of all ages, and small-scale retail that's a neighborhood draw, not regional draw.

Parmatown to be replaced by a giant strip mall with plenty of parking! Parma seems like such a visionary place...

 

http://www.cleveland.com/parma/index.ssf/2015/12/the_end_of_an_era_parmatown_ma.html#comments

 

This is no more visionary than Van Aken comparing their respective 'hoods and location of transit. In fact I think Van Aken is far more disappointing.

 

Except there's literally zero reason to believe this will solve the issues Parmatown was having. The issues didn't stem from it being "too old" or "dated" or "not enough parking" they stemmed from the fact that South Park Mall handles the mall needs of the area south of the city more than adequately and the need for malls has declined drastically. There's no reason to believe this place is going to magically be popular and attract better retailers and fix the issues that are inherent with this location.

 

I don't get it, are you advocating sprawl?

 

Lipstick on a pig... Parmatown was failing because of not enough parking???? If anywhere could use some Crocker Park magic (retail with 3-4 floors of residential or office) this is the place.

 

Who's going to live in Parma? Some people in the Cleveland area (and on here) pretend that Beachwood and Westlake are more "urban" than Parma. Parma doesn't have money and folks like Stark have no interest in redeveloping an existing mall when they can grab richer folks by plowing under farmland in the outer suburbs.

 

I'm in the middle on this.  I'm glad redevelopment is happening at the center of Parma, but I'm disappointed the format of that development isn't a little more modern.  This is Parma's downtown.  Couldn't they make it just a little more pedestrian-oriented? 

 

Parmatown shouldn't be Parma's "downtown". Ridge/Snow, Ridge/Pearl, State/Snow all have better bones to become something denser than anything built along Ridgewood or Day Dr. That's where the "vision" should be IMHO.

 

 

Growing up in Parma I feel as though I have a unique view on this. Yes, we can all sit here and agree how the city has declined, how SouthPark/Great Northern has taken its business, how the mall was dead and they needed to cut their loss', etc. but as Freethink said this is still an investment in Ohio's 7th largest city, Cleveland's largest suburb, and more importantly an inner ring suburb of Cleveland. You are not seeing this kind of money flow to Garfield Hts, Euclid, etc. This is better then letting the whole area die and is exciting. Also from what I have seen/heard it is doing well thus far and most if not all residents are excited about this! Quit with the negativity, stay in your outer ring suburbs with no personality or character!

Not negative. Taking the positive view because my sister has lived there for 15 years. This is a huge tract of land. A blank canvas to play with. Parma deserves something better, more creative, more unique, more inspiring to visit and more energizing to the surround areas. A strip mall? Every city has one.

Not negative. Taking the positive view because my sister has lived there for 15 years. This is a huge tract of land. A blank canvas to play with. Parma deserves something better, more creative, more unique, more inspiring to visit and more energizing to the surround areas. A strip mall? Every city has one.

 

Every city has Crocker Park and Legacy Village too. I would love a dense neighborhood that could spark the surrounding area especially north of Ridgewood but the idea is toxic for developers unless you can prove the folks moving in there will make a certain income. Very few developers are building lifestyle centers or anything remotely urban for the working class. It is what it is.

Every city has Crocker Park and Legacy Village too.

 

"Every city"?? And I didn't say lifestyle center. I said "a more creative, more unique, more inspiring to visit and more energizing to the surround areas." If you took that mean to lifestyle center, then I encourage you to consider the many other land use models available. Or maybe we instead try a "Parma model" designed specifically for Parma, and designed by Parma citizens. When you give residents, business owners and civic leaders a little bit of urban planning training and then put a blank tablet in front of them and some leeway for debate, some pretty amazing things result -- including stakeholder buy-in.

Every city has Crocker Park and Legacy Village too.

 

"Every city"?? And I didn't say lifestyle center. I said "a more creative, more unique, more inspiring to visit and more energizing to the surround areas." If you took that mean to lifestyle center, then I encourage you to consider the many other land use models available. Or maybe we instead try a "Parma model" designed specifically for Parma, and designed by Parma citizens. When you give residents, business owners and civic leaders a little bit of urban planning training and then put a blank tablet in front of them and some leeway for debate, some pretty amazing things result -- including stakeholder buy-in.

 

Outside of the current developers I haven't heard of any other interest in this area. What other uses are available for it?

 

Can't be a park. Parma can't maintain it's existing facilities and the loss of revenue from retailers would only put the city in a bigger bind.

 

About the only thing I can think of is a medical office complex because of it's proximity to UH-Parma. Even then, that would be a lot of buildings to fill considering the footprint of the mall and Greater Cleveland still has plenty of vacant office space.

 

I'm not arguing with you, I want something denser there too but I just think there aren't a lot of options here and it would be 1000x worse to let the area lie fallow waiting for the next great thing that never comes.

I couldn't tell you who was interested but I can tell it wasn't marketed publicly. It didn't show up on any commercial real estate listings and I follow all of the local listings. BTW, retail is a financial loser in terms of net fiscal impact. They require lots of drainage and public infrastructure maintenance, plus police patrolling and response. They don't generate much in income taxes since retail jobs pay so little. So the net fiscal impact on the city from a purely retail development is typically a financial loss. So if you like nice parks and services in Parma, this development will likely hurt those things more than help.

And 15 years from now, how will this shopping plaza be any different than the other half dozen in Parma that are struggling to fill storefronts? The only reason its successful right now is because it's new and shiny.

 

What's the rental occupancy rates for all the Parma apartment complexes? What are they charging per square foot? I find it hard to believe that a new, mixed use, well thought out development couldn't compete with the suburbs further out.

I honestly know very little about Parma, but a quick check on Wikipedia (for what that is worth) doesn't paint such a bad picture. Add to that Parma Hts...which I've always heard is more desirable, is right nearby. The city seems to have strengths to build on to reinvent itself into a modern 21st century city with some creative thinking. Checking random streets on google maps, there's nice infrastructure...homes, sidewalks and streets in good repair, buried power lines, old growth trees, decent to well performing public and private schools, close to downtown, good interstate access...etc.

 

I guess I am kind of in the middle on this development as well, but part of me thinks maybe they should think outside the standard big box configuration....nothing flashy, but better planned. It's a unique city, with strong ethnic roots, local pride, and interesting quirks lacking in newer suburbs. It's been beaten down and made fun of way more than it deserves and has strong assets to build on....which kinda sounds like...Cleveland! With some good new housing and retail options, they may even win back empty nesters that moved to other nearby sprawl suburbs at some point.

 

Quotes from Wikipedia:

 

"Today, Parma's population has reached 81,601, though it remains one of the Cleveland area's top three destinations young adults (aged 22 to 34) are increasingly choosing as a place to live, along with Lakewood and downtown Cleveland[25] and was recently recognized by Businessweek as one of the best places to raise kids in Ohio."

 

"The median income for a household in the city is $50,198, the median income for a family is $60,696 and the mean income for a family is $68,828. The per capita income for the city is $25,064. The poverty rate in the city is 10.2%. This is low in comparison to other large Ohio cities as well as the state's individual poverty rate of 15.4%."

 

"Parma ranks as the third safest city in the United States with a population of 25,000 or more.[37] Parma has a crime index of 90 out of 100, making it safer than 90% of the cities in the United States with a violent crime rate of 0.69 per 1,000 residents and a non-violent crime rate of 5.57 per 1,000 residents.[38]"

I couldn't tell you who was interested but I can tell it wasn't marketed publicly. It didn't show up on any commercial real estate listings and I follow all of the local listings. BTW, retail is a financial loser in terms of net fiscal impact. They require lots of drainage and public infrastructure maintenance, plus police patrolling and response. They don't generate much in income taxes since retail jobs pay so little. So the net fiscal impact on the city from a purely retail development is typically a financial loss. So if you like nice parks and services in Parma, this development will likely hurt those things more than help.

 

Forest City let Parmatown go into receivership in 2012 and sold it to a Cincinnati based company that came to the city with this plan. Hard to believe that other area developers didn't know what was going on and I'd bet interest was low.

 

Parmatown actually will have less retail now than when it was a mall. This counters the trend going on in the region as a whole.

 

And 15 years from now, how will this shopping plaza be any different than the other half dozen in Parma that are struggling to fill storefronts? The only reason its successful right now is because it's new and shiny.

 

What's the rental occupancy rates for all the Parma apartment complexes? What are they charging per square foot? I find it hard to believe that a new, mixed use, well thought out development couldn't compete with the suburbs further out.

 

Sure it will get dated but, again, this is an actual reduction in retail and what is there will actually serve the community. Tell me what developer showed interest in this site? Where was Stark or Weston or Geis when Forest City let Parmatown go?

 

And let's be honest, if IKEA planned to build their big-box strip mall store on the former Parmatown site, nobody would complain about Parma on here.

 

I honestly know very little about Parma, but a quick check on Wikipedia (for what that is worth) doesn't paint such a bad picture. Add to that Parma Hts...which I've always heard is more desirable, is right nearby. The city seems to have strengths to build on to reinvent itself into a modern 21st century city with some creative thinking. Checking random streets on google maps, there's nice infrastructure...homes, sidewalks and streets in good repair, buried power lines, old growth trees, decent to well performing public and private schools, close to downtown, good interstate access...etc.

 

I guess I am kind of in the middle on this development as well, but part of me thinks maybe they should think outside the standard big box configuration....nothing flashy, but better planned. It's a unique city, with strong ethnic roots, local pride, and interesting quirks lacking in newer suburbs. It's been beaten down and made fun of way more than it deserves and has strong assets to build on....which kinda sounds like...Cleveland! With some good new housing and retail options, they may even win back empty nesters that moved to other nearby sprawl suburbs at some point.

 

Quotes from Wikipedia:

 

"Today, Parma's population has reached 81,601, though it remains one of the Cleveland area's top three destinations young adults (aged 22 to 34) are increasingly choosing as a place to live, along with Lakewood and downtown Cleveland[25] and was recently recognized by Businessweek as one of the best places to raise kids in Ohio."

 

"The median income for a household in the city is $50,198, the median income for a family is $60,696 and the mean income for a family is $68,828. The per capita income for the city is $25,064. The poverty rate in the city is 10.2%. This is low in comparison to other large Ohio cities as well as the state's individual poverty rate of 15.4%."

 

"Parma ranks as the third safest city in the United States with a population of 25,000 or more.[37] Parma has a crime index of 90 out of 100, making it safer than 90% of the cities in the United States with a violent crime rate of 0.69 per 1,000 residents and a non-violent crime rate of 5.57 per 1,000 residents.[38]"

 

The "problem" with the youth movement of Parma north of Ridgewood and Old Brooklyn is that the people moving into these areas are working-class citizens with families and not young professionals. In other words not "hipster" and seen as "suburban" despite the fact these places are getting more diverse and have higher population densities than other areas of Greater Cleveland seen as "urban".

 

 

I couldn't tell you who was interested but I can tell it wasn't marketed publicly. It didn't show up on any commercial real estate listings and I follow all of the local listings. BTW, retail is a financial loser in terms of net fiscal impact. They require lots of drainage and public infrastructure maintenance, plus police patrolling and response. They don't generate much in income taxes since retail jobs pay so little. So the net fiscal impact on the city from a purely retail development is typically a financial loss. So if you like nice parks and services in Parma, this development will likely hurt those things more than help.

Sure, but letting Parmatown go the way of Randall Park, Rolling Acres, or several other shuttered malls would have had an immense impact on the residential tax base.  Offering retail amenities is a must to city residents.  Once their driving to Strongsville for everything, they eventually move there.  In addition, a shuttered mall is a hotbed for crime. 

 

As far as runoff goes, there has been acres of impervious runoff in that area for years with the immense roof and parking lot a Parmatown.  It's not like their plowing through a farm field or forest to build this development.  In addition, police have been patrolling the area since the 60's.  Big Box and open-air actually generates less crime and loitering then enclosed malls. 

 

This concept would be better served by urbanizing the Polish and Ukranian Villages to a greater extent IMHO. Better bones than trying to build a fake downtown around the old Parmatown site.

 

Parma receives $50,000 Cuyahoga County grant for Crossroads of Parma master plan

 

http://www.cleveland.com/parma/index.ssf/2018/01/parma_receives_50000_cuyahoga.html

 

"Parma was built up post-WWII," DeGeeter said. "There's no really downtown town center concept like you see in other communities. Just by happenstance, this area where City Hall is and the mall is that natural town center.

 

Even with the post war growth about 17,000 people lived in Parma prior to WWII. There's some great housing stock in these older 'hoods. Parma's government still can't see the forest from the trees.

 

This concept would be better served by urbanizing the Polish and Ukranian Villages to a greater extent IMHO. Better bones than trying to build a fake downtown around the old Parmatown site.

 

Parma receives $50,000 Cuyahoga County grant for Crossroads of Parma master plan

 

http://www.cleveland.com/parma/index.ssf/2018/01/parma_receives_50000_cuyahoga.html

 

Agreed. Ukrainian and Polish Village are both walkable neighborhoods with streetscapes that really need only cosmetic fine-tuning. Those areas could follow Lakewood's lead.

Proudly grew up in Ukrainian village!!!!

Pitt Ohio Signs 15 Year Agreement With Parma, Groundbreaking To Begin On New Trucking Terminal On Former GM Parking Lots

 

Groundbreaking is set to take place by April 2nd. The facility will utilize LEED-certified solar and wind which is projected to open late 2019.

 

This project is expected to add 180 jobs, and an additional 60 after a couple years of operations.

However a payroll tax rebate is to be put into place for Pitt Ohio's new Parma facility. Once they break $6.8 million in payroll, Pitt Ohio will receive a rebate that will give 'HALF' of their payroll tax back (~~$3.4 million).

 

Pitt Ohio is also pleased to announce a possible partnership with PCSD regarding STEM education.

Pitt Ohio Signs 15 Year Agreement With Parma, Groundbreaking To Begin On New Trucking Terminal On Former GM Parking Lots

 

Groundbreaking is set to take place by April 2nd. The facility will utilize LEED-certified solar and wind which is projected to open late 2019.

 

This project is expected to add 180 jobs, and an additional 60 after a couple years of operations.

However a payroll tax rebate is to be put into place for Pitt Ohio's new Parma facility. Once they break $6.8 million in payroll, Pitt Ohio will receive a rebate that will give 'HALF' of their payroll tax back (~~$3.4 million).

 

Pitt Ohio is also pleased to announce a possible partnership with PCSD regarding STEM education.

 

Amazing Parma city govt. found a use for all those unused parking lots. I'm assuming the main Pitt Ohio entrance will be on Chevy Blvd.?

 

It's nice that the company is helping PCSD. Hopefully the school board can get their heads of their ***es and actually improve the system. Not holding my breath though.

Parma has so much potential.

Parma has so much potential.

 

...especially on the major corridors north of Snow Rd. State could be something special all the way to Grantwood. Ridge to Parma Circle. City planners have zero vision. Nothing says this more than the Parma Theater debacle that let to another suburban looking CVS. Also City Hall was built next to Parmatown and the pols will always see it as the city "center".

 

It would make so much sense to just consolidate Parma, Parma Heights and Seven Hills from a logistical and geographical standpoint. Meh, I can go on...

Parma has so much potential.

 

...especially on the major corridors north of Snow Rd. State could be something special all the way to Grantwood. Ridge to Parma Circle. City planners have zero vision. Nothing says this more than the Parma Theater debacle that let to another suburban looking CVS. Also City Hall was built next to Parmatown and the pols will always see it as the city "center".

 

It would make so much sense to just consolidate Parma, Parma Heights and Seven Hills from a logistical and geographical standpoint. Meh, I can go on...

 

I disagree with consolidation, but agree with you on all other counts.

 

Parma's crony politics has led to the 7th largest city in the state functioning without a f***ing city charter. It's beyond frustrating. Consolidation is unattainable due to Parma. Additionally, consolidation would effectively make the new city = 135,000 inhabitants

 

Nonetheless, there are strips of State and Ridge that have INCREDIBLE bones. There is a walkable streetscape and affordable housing, less than a 5 minute drive from 480 and within 3 miles of a major hospital. The lack of vision is nauseating.

Parma has so much potential.

 

...especially on the major corridors north of Snow Rd. State could be something special all the way to Grantwood. Ridge to Parma Circle. City planners have zero vision. Nothing says this more than the Parma Theater debacle that let to another suburban looking CVS. Also City Hall was built next to Parmatown and the pols will always see it as the city "center".

 

It would make so much sense to just consolidate Parma, Parma Heights and Seven Hills from a logistical and geographical standpoint. Meh, I can go on...

 

I disagree with consolidation, but agree with you on all other counts.

 

Parma's crony politics has led to the 7th largest city in the state functioning without a f***ing city charter. It's beyond frustrating. Consolidation is unattainable due to Parma. Additionally, consolidation would effectively make the new city = 135,000 inhabitants

 

Nonetheless, there are strips of State and Ridge that have INCREDIBLE bones. There is a walkable streetscape and affordable housing, less than a 5 minute drive from 480 and within 3 miles of a major hospital. The lack of vision is nauseating.

 

HA..good point. I forgot about the city charter issue.

Parma's crony politics has led to the 7th largest city in the state functioning without a f***ing city charter. It's beyond frustrating. Consolidation is unattainable due to Parma. Additionally' date=' consolidation would effectively make the new city = 135,000 inhabitants[/quote']

 

Parma has no charter? I thought all cities have charters--as they are (municipal) corporations.

 

Also, are you saying consolidation is unattainable because of a lack of charter?  Finally, why would a city of 135,000 people be bad?

1. Yes, they have no charter. They're one of only 3 cities in the state without one.

 

2. Consolidation is unattainable because of the cronyism of Parma politics, the lack of a charter is just a manifestation of that. The charter has never been instituted because it would inevitably lead to a reduction of some hours / positions within the city government - and that will never happen.

 

The cronyism is the same reason Parma now has 3 high schools, none of which are rigorous academically or athletically - because the power brokers in the city won't allow it because they've gotten so many family members jobs teaching and coaching.

 

I grew up around it and, to be fair, my family was a small part of it. While we've benefited from it at times, it does not change the fact that what's best for Parma diverges from what's best for its current leadership.

 

3. It wouldn't be bad. But if that continues, and say Valley View, Brook Park, and Garfield Heights jump on board, the path to county regionalization just got harder - in my opinion - as two cities of 250,000+ will be attempting to influence the process. I'm pro-regionalization, but I think it has to start with Cleveland and work its way outwards

^ Since they don't have a charter, doesn't it limit their home rule authority?

^^ There are 936 total municipalities in Ohio. Of those 936, 702 of them are General law municipalities while the remaining 234 are Charter/Home rule cities.

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Cities_in_Ohio

 

General law doesn't mean "without charter" just to be clear

1. Yes, they have no charter. They're one of only 3 cities in the state without one.

 

2. Consolidation is unattainable because of the cronyism of Parma politics, the lack of a charter is just a manifestation of that. The charter has never been instituted because it would inevitably lead to a reduction of some hours / positions within the city government - and that will never happen.

 

The cronyism is the same reason Parma now has 3 high schools, none of which are rigorous academically or athletically - because the power brokers in the city won't allow it because they've gotten so many family members jobs teaching and coaching.

 

I grew up around it and, to be fair, my family was a small part of it. While we've benefited from it at times, it does not change the fact that what's best for Parma diverges from what's best for its current leadership.

 

3. It wouldn't be bad. But if that continues, and say Valley View, Brook Park, and Garfield Heights jump on board, the path to county regionalization just got harder - in my opinion - as two cities of 250,000+ will be attempting to influence the process. I'm pro-regionalization, but I think it has to start with Cleveland and work its way outwards

 

got it---thanks for elaborating.

This is the main barrier to consolidation all over the region, not just in Parma.  It's the reason East Cleveland still exists.  But Parma is bigger so the problem is bigger there.  At least the current mayor is somewhat of an outsider.

This is the main barrier to consolidation all over the region, not just in Parma.  It's the reason East Cleveland still exists.  But Parma is bigger so the problem is bigger there.  At least the current mayor is somewhat of an outsider.

 

East Cleveland will not survive the next corruption scandal.

Tim DeGeeter has actually done a nice job since he took office. The key to redevelopment is beginning on your infrastructure, and that's exactly what he's starting on. The roads were an atrocity with DiPiero, none of them were resurfaced or even talked about. With DeGeeter, atleast now we have a massive revamp of Pleasant Valley past York Road even on a collaboration effort with Middleburgh Heights. Ridge Road is currently seeing resurfacing for the next few years, and I wouldn't be surprised if Pleasant Valley from Broadview Road to State doesn't get a revamp. Parma is famous for its potholes, I think it's time we break that reputation.

University Hospitals Parma Medical Center to undergo $27-million renovation

 

https://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2018/07/university_hospitals_parma_med_1.html

I'm not sure if It's Parma or Brooklyn but it's right across from Brookpark Road and Ridge Road Where Kmart used to be.

The entirety of that old Super Kmart were ripped down a few years ago,

Word is that it's being rebuilt as a Menards.

Construction is already underway on the lot, glad I wont be looking at an empty eyesore driving down Brookpark anymore.

I'm not sure if It's Parma or Brooklyn but it's right across from Brookpark Road and Ridge Road Where Kmart used to be.

The entirety of that old Super Kmart were ripped down a few years ago,

Word is that it's being rebuilt as a Menards.

Construction is already underway on the lot, glad I wont be looking at an empty eyesore driving down Brookpark anymore.

 

Actually, I believe that strip is (confusingly) Cleveland. That area over the hop-scotches from Cleveland to Brooklyn to Parma every 100 feet