June 2, 200817 yr Being that you have to be 21 to buy a handgun anyway, there is not going to be a bunch of teens running around with concealed carry permits. Ohio also has an open carry law, you don't need a permit to open carry. Permit is needed for concealed carry only.
June 3, 200817 yr Open carry is still a no no. Is it specifically prohibited? No, it is not. Can it still get you in trouble - ABSOLUTELY. Most officers WILL cite you for inciting panic for open carry (most especially in the cities). You still cannot just walk down the sidewalk with a shotgun (or a handgun for that matter). Yes it is legal, it is also quite legal for the officer to cite you for inciting panic, or, if he really wants to get you, mayhem (the felony variant).
June 3, 200817 yr ^ You can't just walk down the sidewalk holding a pistol in your hand, it has to be properly holstered. And no, officers won't cite you for anything if you are a law abiding citizen. If you are a felon you shouldn't have a firearm anyway. Law enforcement officers are becoming more aware of what the law actually is, and its up to law abiding citizens like ourselves to make sure others are educated about such issues. http://thereadyline.blogspot.com/2008/03/state-leos-in-dark-about-open-carry-in.html Most people in this forum didn't even realize you needed to be 21 to purchase a handgun or to obtain a CCW. Before you can even apply for a CCW, you must attend & pass an approved twelve hour Concealed Carry Course to learn & demonstrate safe gun-handling procedures, safe ammunition storage practices, laws regarding firearms, when & where to carry, understanding of self defense/deadly force, among a multitude of other things. Anyone who has any basic firearms training whatsoever know & understands that firing your weapon is a last resort. People who have CCW's are the most law abiding citizens America has to offer and are generally more educated, mature & level headed than those without. Its the people who make comments like some of the ones I've seen on this thread that we have to worry about. Some of the most well educated people I know have their CCW. Its not something people generally talk to much about if they don't know you, so you could be sitting next to someone at work who has theirs. They just might save your life someday, you never know. The looks that you give people who carry firearms are probably similar to the looks you might receive when you are in public holding hands with your same sex partner.
June 3, 200817 yr I have my CCW, so I am well aware of all of the above requirements. However, after sitting through the class to get my CCW, I certainly wouldn't classify some of the folks in that class as you did: "more educated, mature & level headed than those without." Frankly, if I had to come up with a simple classification for a goodly majority of those folks who were in my class with me, the classification would be "scared." There were more people "frightened of life" in that class than in any other course I have taken on anything in the last 33 years. (Then again, I also took the course with my father in law, a man who has more advanced degrees than anyone I know, and neither one of us took it because we were scared) However, to say that officers will not cite you for walking down the street with an unholstered weapon of any kind if you are a "law abiding citizen" is a gross understatement. Will officers be understanding if you are a level headed person, and talk to them about a good reason for acting as you have, well certainly. Will they cite you, or possibly arrest you if you are not a level headed person, or if there are folks who are genuinely scared of your presence with a firearm, yes, they will (and there are plenty who would be scared just to see one). edit - Nevermind, I reread your post, you said holstered. Sorry, I thought the comment was that they wouldn't give you trouble for an unholstered sidearm, and thats well, a judgment call on the part of the officer depending on the circumstances...
June 3, 200817 yr ^ I agree, 'some' of the folks who attend CCW classes are there because they are scared of the world in general and they are looking for something extra to protect them from that, the others who seem scared/nervous are more scared of the class itself because they will actually have to fire a pistol & demonstrate various procedures with a degree of accuracy. I encourage everyone to attend a CCW course no matter if they plan on carrying a pistol or not for the simple fact they will learn something new that could also be useful in the future. I have never felt threatened by law enforcement or anyone for that matter when having a firearm in public. I have always had a good relationship with local law enforcement, if you make yourself familiar to them you are less likely to have an issue. When was the last time someone in Cincinnati was arrested or cited for open carry?
June 3, 200817 yr However, to say that officers will not cite you for walking down the street with an unholstered weapon of any kind if you are a "law abiding citizen" is a gross understatement. Will officers be understanding if you are a level headed person, and talk to them about a good reason for acting as you have, well certainly. Will they cite you, or possibly arrest you if you are not a level headed person, or if there are folks who are genuinely scared of your presence with a firearm, yes, they will (and there are plenty who would be scared just to see one). edit - Nevermind, I reread your post, you said holstered. Sorry, I thought the comment was that they wouldn't give you trouble for an unholstered sidearm, and thats well, a judgment call on the part of the officer depending on the circumstances... I would have to say that walking down the street with an unholstered firearm is like asking for trouble. Its the difference between being responsible & irresponsible.
June 3, 200817 yr I hate headlines like this one. For one, it's completely misleading, creating a misunderstanding that UC students particularly want to carry guns. The advocate happened to be from UC. Irrelevant to the max. Oh, and I'm paying tuition for more than just courses. I'd like to feel secure on campus if I'm paying thousands of dollars per year. What's next? Are we going to allow eighteen year olds to carry guns in high schools? Additionally, if someone has the motive to use a weapon on some students, they're going to do it with or without permit or regulation. Allowing someone to carry a gun legally on to campus would only create problems. Say an assassin starts opening fire on a group of students or faculty. Rambo with the permit will answer fire. Who's to say that he won't miss his target, this assailant? There's good reason why there aren't guns permitted in institutions in the first place. Let's not get silly.
June 3, 200817 yr ^ The only thing I find silly are some of your comments! Ahh, yes. Great input. Did you bother to read any of the posts preceding yours? They are full of facts and educated opinions vs. your "Rambo with the permit will answer fire" & Making a suggestion that eighteen year old high school students would possibly be able to carry firearms to school is an ignorant statement!
June 4, 200817 yr Well, I see that you're a hothead. I'll disregard that. I was being facetious with my comment about high school kids. Don't be so naive.
June 4, 200817 yr Well, I see that you're a hothead. I'll disregard that. Why? Because I pointed out how ridiculous that was and now your upset? What's next? Are we going to allow eighteen year olds to carry guns in high schools? If that is facetious I assume the rest of your post was also because it sounded like a legitimate question to me, albeit ridiculous.
June 4, 200817 yr Stop ruining my thread before I get my gun. Seriously though. Enough of the "what next" arguments. They're endless and can be applied to anything. As inelastic as laws are to social change, I don't think that's going to happen.
June 4, 200817 yr ^ I am not worried about your gun! I would be more worried about you attacking me with a virus... :-D
June 6, 200817 yr So much for a real discussion, Time. Your assumptions have already made it impossible.
June 6, 200817 yr So much for a real discussion, Time. Your assumptions have already made it impossible. It would only be impossible if your incapable.
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