Great resource this forum has been!

 

We're moving in late June/early July, initially looked at Cleveland Heights and Shaker, but we've since started looking

into renting in either Tremont or Midtown/Asiantown/whatever area.  Looking at loft buildings.  Have a couple of questions;

 

1) From browsing on line....Tremont appears to be a little safer than Asiantown? True or false?

 

2) Greater variety of homes in Asiantown > Tremont, at least the type of lofts we're interested in.  I saw a Loftworks

loft that is for rent on Craigslist, but it appears others are more for purchase (Payne Lofts) rather than renting.

 

3) Any other resources that y'all can provide?  Google and Yahoo weren't much help, so I think on our next scouting mission

I am going to be taking down pictures/numbers of places to get a hold of to see if there are any lofts for rent.

 

Thanks

 

PS we're from Michigan, we drive since public transportation is a foreign concept to us  :yap:

Hi Pokeable, and welcome to the forum and to Cleveland!  :wave: :clap:

 

In response to your questions, I believe that Asiatown is statistically one of the safest neighborhoods in the city.  I haven't spent a lot of time there, so I can't make a real comparison to Tremont, but I can say that Tremont is also considered to be fairly safe.  There are a couple of forumers who live in those areas and can provide more information about actually living there.

 

In terms of lofts, if you're looking more for converted warehouse space, then yes, Asiatown/Midtown hands down has a better selection than Tremont.  Again, forumers who live in those areas can provide more details.

 

As for other resources, an UrbanOhioan recently launched/ is in the process of launching a website specifically for people moving to the city.  Right now it pretty much duplicates information from here, but it will likely branch out in the future.  The url is www.neo-phytes.com.

 

Good luck in your search, and again, welcome to Cleveland!  This site has some of the best information on the city around, and I hope you become a regular here!

First off, I would suggest that you look into Ohio City. Ohio City is a "urban ying" to Tremont's "urban yang".

 

1. False, true, false and true. Tremont has a lot more going on. Asiatown is sleepier, but is growing. From what I hear, crime is slow in Asiatown. However the streets are quiet and vacant at night, and that can give you an unsettling feeling at times. There is a lot going on in Tremont. A lot. Personally, I would move to Tremont. You really need to visit and see how you feel on a Saturday afternoon and on a Saturday evening.

 

2. Are you from Detroit?  It is difficult to give suggestions until we know what you are used to. Generally, I would suggest Tremont and Ohio City to Cleveland newcomers before i would suggest Asiatown.

 

3. www.clv-lofts.com 

oh yeah, WELCOME!!

Welcome!

 

To help us out, what exactly are you looking for in those neighborhoods/overall??

Since you'll be working at Cleveland Clinic, have you looked at the Little Italy area or within University Circle itself? You may find some lofts in Little Italy or a nice duplex/double. Have you completely ruled out downtown? Or Shaker Square? Or Larchmere?

 

With gas prices finding no ceiling, a new transitway opening at the end of the year between downtown and University Circle (past CCF's front door), and several rail lines, we'll make you a transit convert yet! ;)

Since you'll be working at Cleveland Clinic... With gas prices finding no ceiling, a new transitway opening at the end of the year between downtown and University Circle (past CCF's front door), and several rail lines, we'll make you a transit convert yet! ;)

 

That's why I'm moving downtown, and why I plan to take the Health (silver) Line. :)

^ Excellent answer.

I agree with what everyone said about Asia town- a gritty exterior seems to hide a pretty sleepy neighborhood. it is only my opinion, but AsiaTown has the coolest loft living spaces handsdown, but as mentioned it is a little sleepier than some the other urban neighborhoods-you just don't see the foot traffic you do in other areas. 

 

now I gotta ask  3231 to describe this further : Ohio City is a "urban ying" to Tremont's "urban yang".

 

I am intrigued!

Hello again!

 

We currently live in the Detroit suburbs (Plymouth, aka Shaker with smaller houses), but went to medical school at Wayne State and lived in downtown Detroit for 3+ years each.  Ideally we are looking for a loft under $1000 with a washer/dryer inside the loft.

 

Cleveland/University Heights just didn't do it for me.  We liked the homes in Shaker Heights, but are a bit too pricey (if we could find one to rent).  We also liked the Warehouse district, but when you add parking costs into the equation, >$1300 a month for a 1100 sqft loft was a bit too much.  I called a couple places in the Gateway district (Park Place, forgot where else) that may be

 

We are planning to have a second look around Sat morning, specifically Ohio City and West Side market, Asiatown, and Tremont. 

 

 

Hi pokeable,

I've lived in Asiatown for about two years (and am roomies with another forumer, 8ShadesofGray, who may have something to contribute here too).

 

Safety - It's incredibly safe. It's actually one of the safest-feeling places I've ever lived, which has surprised me a little. I think this has to do partly with the fact that it's a mixed-use neighborhood, so in addition to residents you have employees at the warehouses and small machine shops adding activity and "eyes on the street" at all hours. It's a diverse neighborhood racially and ethnically -- about 20% Asian, 45% white and 35% black, according to some research I did for a class project about a year ago. Uniformly, though, it's a hard-working population. There are a lot of immigrants -- Asian, Eastern European and white refugees from the suburbs looking for cheap loft space. The Asians are continually running back and forth between their houses and the import warehouses that line Payne and Superior avenues. The artists and manufacturing employees are sawing and spraying and clattering away in their warehouse spaces. This all contributes to a sense of busy-ness and safety. In my two years living on E. 33rd St., nothing at all has happened to me, my house or my car (and I park outside).

 

Loft spaces - There isn't a whole lot that is *legally* available. (In fact Loftworks and Payne Avenue Lofts are the only two legal buildings I know of.) A lot of the loft living around here happens in violation of state codes, though the City tends to turn a blind eye and even has legislation supporting live-work. If either of you guys are artists, contact the Goulds at http://www.artspacecleveland.com. They can connect you with some available working spaces. Also try Rose Management Co. at http://clevelandspace.com/, which manages some loft buildings in the neighborhood.

 

If I have a complaint at all about Asiatown, it's the lack of a walking culture. The neighborhood, spatially, is actually quite walkable. There's a Dave's Supermarket/Pharmacy a block and a half from where I live, as well as innumerable Asian restaurants, groceries and shops. Public transit is also good, with major bus lines connecting you with downtown in a matter of 5-10 minutes. But because the avenues are so wide, and because parking is so freely available, not a whole lot of people walk. Certainly fewer than in Tremont, Downtown, Shaker Square or Ohio City.

 

In sum, if pedestrianism is important to you, you might be best advised to look elsewhere. If safety and availability of cool spaces are your primary considerations, you can't do any better than Asiatown.

Hello again!

 

We currently live in the Detroit suburbs (Plymouth, aka Shaker with smaller houses), but went to medical school at Wayne State and lived in downtown Detroit for 3+ years each.  Ideally we are looking for a loft under $1000 with a washer/dryer inside the loft.

 

Hmm...I never got that vibe in Plymouth. Anywho, welcome to the site. I'm a former Ferndale resident myself.

Dunno...the Ann Arbor Trail/Penniman houses seem to be similar architecture, time period (and some rival the size) of the places in Shaker

we eyeballed.  Plymouth may have a bit more going on (currently live music from a "Green" festival downtown) can be heard from our bedroom window, some new bars and restaurants, etc. etc. etc.

 

Anyhoo.  To the poster above, we agreed with your assessment of Asiatown; seemed very safe, but not very walkable.  We did hit Koko bakery last weekend for bubble tea, and just got back from another recon expedition and had dim sum at the restaurant down the street on Payne.

 

We loved Tremont on a Friday night...but the place we looked at had VERY limited parking (we both work and need two cars)...and Fairfield between Paralax (loved the onion ring side with the sushi) and Lolita seemed to get clogged up pretty quickly.

 

Ohio City, some lovely little side-streets with beautiful brick Victorian homes, but to pull another Detroit comparison, reminded me a bit of Corktown.

 

Ultimately, I think we are go with a 1 BR 1100 sqft loft we found in the Warehouse district.  Rent will be a bit more, but per mapquest only 4 miles to the main CCF campus, and there is a satellite on the west side I will be trudging too so this works perfectly.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

 

Dunno...the Ann Arbor Trail/Penniman houses seem to be similar architecture, time period (and some rival the size) of the places in Shaker

we eyeballed.  Plymouth may have a bit more going on (currently live music from a "Green" festival downtown) can be heard from our bedroom window, some new bars and restaurants, etc. etc. etc.

 

Anyhoo.  To the poster above, we agreed with your assessment of Asiatown; seemed very safe, but not very walkable.  We did hit Koko bakery last weekend for bubble tea, and just got back from another recon expedition and had dim sum at the restaurant down the street on Payne.

 

We loved Tremont on a Friday night...but the place we looked at had VERY limited parking (we both work and need two cars)...and Fairfield between Paralax (loved the onion ring side with the sushi) and Lolita seemed to get clogged up pretty quickly.

 

Ohio City, some lovely little side-streets with beautiful brick Victorian homes, but to pull another Detroit comparison, reminded me a bit of Corktown.

 

Ultimately, I think we are go with a 1 BR 1100 sqft loft we found in the Warehouse district.  Rent will be a bit more, but per mapquest only 4 miles to the main CCF campus, and there is a satellite on the west side I will be trudging too so this works perfectly.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

 

 

Actually it's about five miles and when the new BRT lines goes live, you probably wont need to drive to the CC.

Ultimately, I think we are go with a 1 BR 1100 sqft loft we found in the Warehouse district. 

 

Welcome to town! Glad you found a place you liked.

 

Which building in the WHD has a one-bedroom unit with 1100 sf? That's more space than I have in my two-bedroom condo! I'm definitely interested in looking into such a place.

KJP, you're thinking of selling and becoming a renter?

Pokeable, sounds like you're on the right track w/ the downtown place! Let us know how it works out for you, and welcome in advance to Cleveland.

KJP, you're thinking of selling and becoming a renter?

 

Possibly. I might want to buy some rural land as an investment for the future.

KJP, you're thinking of selling and becoming a renter?

 

Possibly. I might want to buy some rural land as an investment for the future.

 

Damn you for contributing to sprawl!  lol

Ultimately, I think we are go with a 1 BR 1100 sqft loft we found in the Warehouse district. 

 

Welcome to town! Glad you found a place you liked.

 

Which building in the WHD has a one-bedroom unit with 1100 sf? That's more space than I have in my two-bedroom condo! I'm definitely interested in looking into such a place.

 

My new place in Bradley is a one bedroom with 1650 square feet - just an FYI - big units in this building. 

Damn you for contributing to sprawl! lol

 

I don't want to build on it. I want to farm it. And the land would probably be in extreme Northeast Ohio (Ashtabula County maybe) or preferably in Northwest Pennsylvania. I really like the Warren, PA area.

 

How the hell did we ever get on this subject?!?!?!

 

My new place in Bradley is a one bedroom with 1650 square feet - just an FYI - big units in this building. 

 

I'll check out that building, but I really like the rent-to-own provision in the Stonebridge Apartments.

My new place in Bradley is a one bedroom with 1650 square feet - just an FYI - big units in this building.

That is HUGE, I'd love to see pictures.

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,12305.90.html

 

hint,hint.    :wink:

I'm working on it - but I need to make it prettified so that all the designers here don't laugh!

I'm working on it - but I need to make it prettified so that all the designers here don't laugh!

 

MayDay and I are the only two who count!  He he he he he he

Hi there; our place is in Worthington Square!

I've heard good things about your building. Welcome! Please let us all know how you're doing and if you need any information or assistance with anything.

Damn you for contributing to sprawl!  lol

 

I don't want to build on it. I want to farm it. And the land would probably be in extreme Northeast Ohio (Ashtabula County maybe) or preferably in Northwest Pennsylvania. I really like the Warren, PA area.

 

^I don't mean to take this thread off course (they have found a place, so isn't this thread 'resolved' or completed or something?).

 

    KJP, I grew up in rural AC (Pierpont township) and my folks still live there. They've got 33 acres and are starting to farm it. My brothers and I have the exact same view as you do. We're building our first windmill (parts from ebay and Craigslist) to install on the farm hopefully sometime this year, with plans to add several more as we can acquire the parts and build them. Our elderly neighbor there has 58 acres adjacent to ours that my brothers and I would love to add to our parents place. Prices for land are pretty affordable right now out there (I believe less than $1k/acre). My folks've got 5 head of cattle, 2 gardens, great small-game hunting and abundant firewood. We're helping my dad build the barn as I speak.

    It's funny when we were growing up we couldn't wait to get out of the country and into the city, now we view it as our safety net when the sh*t eventually hits the fan.

  Shoot me a PM if you ever want to discuss this further or maybe a new thread could be started?