I don't know what I would do with 3500 square feet of house.  I also don't get the general concept of spacing the houses by 2 feet, be it here or anywhere.  Is it just to get light along the sidewalls? 

 

Eastern Ave is clearly a great place for redevelopment.  The cost of construction is pushing developmnts towards high price homes.  Can it work with smaller units?  Maybe 3 single floor 1200 sq.ft units?  I really don't know the economics of situation, such as demand for smaller units outsie of downtown/OTR.

^ My house and my neighbor's houses are about 3 feet apart.  Of course, they were built 100 years ago, when no one expected to have a side yard.  It's really not a bad arrangement at all.  Typically, the houses are built with windows on just 3 sides, so the side that serves as your walkway to the backyard feels very private, even though your neighbor's house is right next to you.

 

The advantage in an urban environment is that you can squeeze more units into a small area, but without the drawback of condos and townhouses where you have shared walls, making noise a concern, as well as an HOA commitee and fee for the upkeep of roofs, pipes, and other random things that dwellings in a single structure must share.  Additionally, I can't even count how many times I've seen older houses (two units with a single shared wall), where one side is well cared for, and the other has been condemned.  Having bad neighbors is one thing, but when they're getting 1/4 of your house's exterior walls condemned, you've got a serious problem.

^ good points, but I would hope that a $300k+ house would not have a neighbor who would get their $300K+ house also condemned.

 

I guess I pictured the buildings along Eastern to be less densely packed than many older neighborhoods, but it is relatively dense with swashes of emptiness between (where other building probably were).

^ good points, but I would hope that a $300k+ house would not have a neighbor who would get their $300K+ house also condemned.

 

I guess I pictured the buildings along Eastern to be less densely packed than many older neighborhoods, but it is relatively dense with swashes of emptiness between (where other building probably were).

 

^ You're surely right about that.  The ones I'm thinking of are 80+ years old, and anything of that age needs extra care that some owners just don't bother with.  But I wasn't sure if you were suggesting that the lots should be bigger or that they should have just gone with attached townhouses instead of the tiny side yards.  I'm sort of surprised by small lots myself for this price range in this area, but that's an issue that be softened with some clever planning.  I guess we'll see soon enough if the developer can pull this off.

Phase one of 22-unit Corbin Park breaks ground today

http://www.soapboxmedia.com/devnews/corbinpark0527.aspx

 

The official groundbreaking for the first home in Revolution Properties' Corbin Park development will take place at 3 PM today. Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory and Andy Holzhauser of the Columbia Tusculum CDC will be on hand to kick off construction of the new single-family homes that will soon spring up at the corner of Riverside Drive and Corbin Street.

 

The $12 million project will be built in two phases of 11 homes each. The fully-customizable homes, ranging in size between 3,000 and 3,500 square feet, were designed by local architect Saul Naim and will come in three different floor plans, starting at $595,000.

 

...

11 new houses have river view

By Lisa Bernard-Kuhn • [email protected] • September 4, 2008

 

PHOTO: http://cmsimg.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=AB&Date=20080904&Category=BIZ01&ArtNo=809040336&Ref=AR&Profile=1076&MaxW=308&Border=0

 

The first of 11 houses planned for a riverfront development is to be finished by November.

 

West End-based Revolution Properties is the developer behind Corbin Park, an upscale residential development between Corbin and St. Peters streets in Cincinnati's East End.

 

...

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/BIZ01/809040336/1076/NEWS

This is great.  Eastern avenue was always a dump but it looks like people realize the potential.  This took entirely too long!

UPDATE:  The ugly wall that seperates eastern/riverside dr and the railroadtracks around the boathouse  is being smashed to bits!! 

UPDATE: The ugly wall that seperates eastern/riverside dr and the railroadtracks around the boathouse is being smashed to bits!!

 

I'm having a hard time picturing that wall.  Are there any pictures of it anywhere?

^That wall gives me nightmares.  This is great news.

Jimmy, if your driving on Eastern going towards downtown, it's the disgusting wall on the left.  It's about 4 feet high and I think it has a sidewalk next to it.  It's so bad looking and decrepit.

That wall coming down is long past due.

^^ Oh cool.  Thanks.

Sibcy Cline has a HUGE chunk of Eastern Ave/Riverside Drive for sale for $7,900,000

 

http://www.sibcy.com/viewlisting.asp?mls=1118539&b=CIN&p=LOTL&s=ACRG&m=1&sender=SearchResults&a=0-Riverside-Dr-East-End-OH-45202

 

What's that all about? was this the DCI project?

Yes, that is the DCI project.  I guess the economy caught up with this?

Got a few shots of some of the original new construction in the East End...although I think these are technically outside of East End proper.

 

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2. These are really cute

 

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5. And a close up...

That would be a great place to live with the river right there, and the parks leading into downtown.

It's kinda isolated though. It's still really auto dependent. The river is definitely the selling point. People who live there probably don't leave their house much.

Nice pics!  Actually I believe the official East End neighborhood runs from downtown all the way to California in a linear fashion.

It's kinda isolated though. It's still really auto dependent. The river is definitely the selling point. People who live there probably don't leave their house much.

 

True, to really make it a functional neighborhood they need to add some retail and restaurants.

the problem is that the parkway and the river ensure that all development will be linear, and that cuts down on the possible density.  Running a Rapid Streetcar on the Eastern Corridor might create some TOD.

As much as I love mass transit, it's okay for some neighborhoods to be auto-dependent.  Many people, after all, love cars.  I think thomasbw is right about the linear development, but considering the state Cincy's transit is in, I think it might be wiser to focus on neighborhoods like OTR that could really benefit from rail transit, and leave neighborhoods like the East End as they are. 

I would definitely build transit in OTR first, but when you have a workable right of way, might as well have a long term plan for it.

That makes sense.

In addition to being auto-dependent, this location is also pretty isolated from heading north very easily.  Probably would go up Collins, left onto Taft (and heaven forfend you try that during the morning rush - cars back up a dozen deep on that hill), right on Hackberry then to Madison, or Collins/Taft/Torrence/Madison...or else all the way out to Delta, or else back in to downtown (you could go west a mile or more to the Kemper Lane extension, but then can only go east on 50)...it's much more isolated than it seems like it should be...

 

Anybody want to buy a giant chunk of Eastern Ave?

 

79 lots by Lunken Airport $1,000 each

 

http://www.sibcy.com/viewlisting.asp?mls=1158099&b=CIN&p=LOTL&s=SFML&m=0&sender=SearchResults&a=4112-Eastern-Ave-Columbia/Tusculum-OH-45226

Corbin Park Model Home has been completed!

 

 

http://www.huff.com/search/detail.php?MLNumber=1148219&PPropertyType=26&ListingAgentID=&frmaction=search

Well this isn't what I was expecting...

 

 

...when I saw this rendering

I don't know whats worse?? the actual or the rendering??? WTF I hope somebody buys it. I bet they don't build anymore.

The first floor garage has to do with the development being built on a floodplain. Other similar developments on Riverside follow a similar fashion or are "disposable."

it looks exactly like the two units closest to the street in the rendering.  were there any views from eastern/riverside (whatever the heck it is right there)

These are some amateur photos of the Riverside Dr. facade, Corbin Street facade and part of the view from the terrace prior to completion. The house is a mirror of the design in the rendering.

 

 

 

I think it just looks bad because it's essentially a row house that is all alone.  If there were several of these next to each other, I think it would look okay.  They should have gone with a different color paint with those bricks though.  Too neutral, IMO.

I like it. At first, I thought that the garage faced the street, but your photographs put it into context. Not bad, and very tastefully done.

how steep of a decline is it there?  from the rendering it looks like the houses in the 2nd and 3rd row won't be able to see anything except the houses in front of them

The version displayed doesnt show it as well as this one. The homes closer to the river are 3 stories total. The second row back are a story taller and the home shown (the model ) is the same height as the second row. Its not much of a hill at all.

 

East Side, West Side homebuilders partner on luxury riverfront development

 

 

An East Side and a West Side homebuilder are partnering to develop a luxury riverfront residential development in the East End.

 

River's Edge in the East End will have 13 homes with prices starting at $945,000.

 

More below:

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2016/07/08/east-side-west-side-homebuilders-partner-on-luxury.html

So it seems like Inman has taken the lead on developing this neighborhood since DCI has moved across the River for the Manhattan Harbour development.    These homes are going to have a great view of the River.  I just hope a couple more businesses can fill in around the intersection of the Collins and Riverside.  Not much of a neighborhood if it ends up just being all high end town homes.  Any one know if DCI ever plans on finishing out that last Condo building next to 2206 Riverside ?

It's sad the way these are all fenced off with what looks like a surface parking lot in front.  Are they expecting to have only surface parking?  Most of the houses on the river side put the garage in back where the grade's lower anyway.  Not a fan of the architecture either, it's very bland and the only variation is the color.  Couldn't they have done this?  https://goo.gl/maps/EVMEuNJyzmT2  From an urban design standpoint it's quite good (the front yard setbacks could be a tad less, but it's no big deal) and while it's obviously the product of one developer, there's a consistent street wall and even cornice line (with one oddly ugly exception), despite these houses being built as-needed.  The proportions and design are actually pretty good too, as they're not pretending to be more elaborate or expensive than they are.  I just wish they'd done a single electric service drop and distributed individually underground rather than throwing each house's wires across the street. 

The version displayed doesnt show it as well as this one. The homes closer to the river are 3 stories total. The second row back are a story taller and the home shown (the model ) is the same height as the second row. Its not much of a hill at all.

 

 

I'm not OCD, but the random spacing and angles of the buildings in this render is slightly bothering.

 

It's sad the way these are all fenced off with what looks like a surface parking lot in front.  Are they expecting to have only surface parking?  Most of the houses on the river side put the garage in back where the grade's lower anyway.  Not a fan of the architecture either, it's very bland and the only variation is the color.  Couldn't they have done this?  https://goo.gl/maps/EVMEuNJyzmT2  From an urban design standpoint it's quite good (the front yard setbacks could be a tad less, but it's no big deal) and while it's obviously the product of one developer, there's a consistent street wall and even cornice line (with one oddly ugly exception), despite these houses being built as-needed.  The proportions and design are actually pretty good too, as they're not pretending to be more elaborate or expensive than they are.  I just wish they'd done a single electric service drop and distributed individually underground rather than throwing each house's wires across the street.

 

I agree, the front parking lot is interesting. The MLS listing for them shows garages that enter the back. The drawing on the MLS shows some detail of the front of the homes, they look much nicer than the picture posted shows.

So this is what's replacing the old East End Cafe.  It makes me sad.

Was it that damaged by the fire? Ouch.

Even if that whole rear addition needed to be removed, and it was a total gut job (I figure it was), new roof, or even just lop off the mansard and leave the brick part, that would've still been way better than this new thing that looks like a muffler shop. 

It'll house Streetside Brewery. Amazing that they note that they are "opening in Cincinnati’s oldest neighborhood, Columbia-Tusculum" (fall of 2016) yet demolished a salvageable historic structure for this POS.

I'm pretty certain the East End Cafe collapsed on itself after the fire, maybe I am wrong?

 

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/04/27/city-inspecting-partially-collapsed-east-end-structure/26475709/

 

That said, don't know how feasible it was to re-build with what was left since it was declared unsafe and was going to be demolished anyways. 

 

I agree though, that's a terrible looking building.  Hopefully, it livens up the area though a bit, and the brewery has good beer.

The street view I posted above is basically how it was until it was finally demolished.  That doesn't mean it didn't perhaps collapse inside, and I figure it would have required a total gut, but still. 

That place was still open for business through about 2011. 

Here's some of the houses being built in River's Edge where the old Highlands School used to be, about ten miles back from the sidewalk.  So not only are there garages in back, there's also this big interior street in front.  SMH

People can criticize individual homes and developments if they want but I do like how eclectic the strip between downtown and Delta is getting.