19 hours ago, Dev said:

The site would include 84 units, all 1-bedroom, and 96 surface parking spaces for a ratio of 1.14 spots per unit.

I hope this succeeds! I personally wouldn't want to live in a the middle of a highway-esque cloverleaf, but adding 84 units to that area would be good for the City!

The whole "renters don't invest in their neighborhood" line is so tired and comes from a place born out of racist/anti-poor attitudes. Home ownership isn't the end-all-be-all of housing. It's ridiculous this still comes up in current days and is seen as a legitimate argument despite being proven to be false ages ago.

On 4/8/2021 at 3:09 PM, Dev said:

A developer, BMC Visions, has approached the City for a zone change that would eventually allow them to build an 80-unit apartment complex located at 3754 - 4759 Beechmont Court and 4761 - 4773 Bloor Avenue in Linwood. The current proposal asks to change the zoning from Manufacturing Limited (ML) to Planned Development (PD) for the roughly 2.2 acre site. The site would include 84 units, all 1-bedroom, and 96 surface parking spaces for a ratio of 1.14 spots per unit. 70 of the 84 units are at 650 sqft with the rest being 750 or 950 sqft. There will also be 13 marked on-street parking spaces created on an expanded Bloor Avenue. There is a pool, fitness center and a small public café in the plan. There will also be bike and kayak racks.

Interestingly, the 3 existing billboard's are an adjacent lot and the owner will not sell. They are now non-conforming and could not be replaced if removed. The site is in the 100-year flood plain but only needs to be lifted a few feet higher to get out. The developer is aware of the potential redesign of the Wooster and Beechmont intersection and does not believe that this interferes with that. The Linwood Community Council voted against the development.

More at the City Planning department's website.

Apparently, the City Planning Commission kicked this back. They have asked the Department of City Planning to engage with residents and the developer to explore all possible options.

I have no words for this monstrosity being built on Riverside Dr.

Oh no, someone accidentally scaled it up vertically by 50%. Too bad.

Do you think we will ever see a time where Kellogg Ave say from Swampwater Grill to Rivertowne Marina gets redeveloped? 

1 hour ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

Do you think we will ever see a time where Kellogg Ave say from Swampwater Grill to Rivertowne Marina gets redeveloped? 

I would guess that yes, but only after the Eastern and Riverside corridors and the California neighborhood get too expensive aka heavily gentrified. The installation of the Oasis Trail could certainly help speed things up but ultimately the Ohio River Trail detours around this area and there's all that flooding, so the focus of development will not be on Kellogg itself for awhile.

 

I commuted from Anderson for longer than I would have liked and Kellogg really, really needs a road diet though.

21 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said:

Do you think we will ever see a time where Kellogg Ave say from Swampwater Grill to Rivertowne Marina gets redeveloped? 

Four items that could hinder solid redevelopment in the area. 

1. This area outside the levee wall is lower than Riverside Drive closer to the city. From Riverview East Academy to Rivertowne, the land significantly looses elevation. Which is understandable since this is more of a flood prone area first when the river starts coming up. 

2. Still a number of junk yards and dumps along this stretch that would require some heavy remediation. 

3. The water treatment area, and yes there are days when the vicinity stinks really bad. 

4. The gravel yards and Kinder Morgan Bulk Terminal, costly and expensive to move any of them, and who wants to invest/build a home next to any of them. 

There is a lot of construction activity along Eastern in East End. 3 consecutive buildings have been demolished this week, and it appears there's one site getting ready to built on. There's also a 5th that has been stripped down to its bones for a full reno. These are all on the Columbia side of Eastern while the small subdivision near the curve appears to be moving forward slowly but surely.

Terry Inman Custom Homes to develop another community in Cincinnati's East End corridor

 

A custom homebuilder with a wealth of development experience in Cincinnati’s East End will begin work on a new community in the neighborhood later this year.

 

Terry Inman Custom Homes has landed city approval and is waiting on the final permits before breaking ground on Strader Garden, a seven-home development in Cincinnati’s East End. Inman has previously developed communities such as River’s Edge and Eden along the riverfront. This development will be situated between Strader Avenue and Babb Alley.

 

Strader Garden is located in the what the developer calls the "Garden District," a subsection of the East End located right outside the floodwaters. It’s also blocks from neighborhood favorites such as Eli’s BBQ and Fulton Yards Coffeehouse and Spirits, but Debi Martin, real estate agent with Keller Williams Realty and the listing agent for Strader Garden, said the Garden District lives up to its name. It has an urbanist setting with the feeling of green spaces, she said.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/02/08/east-end-garden-district-custom-homebuilder.html

 

https://www.commercialcafe.com/commercial-property/us/oh/cincinnati/4575-eastern-avenue/

 

Looks like a 5.5 acre lot with the original building and a clock tower on site being repurposed in the complex with 3 new build apartment buildings.Damn ambitious plan 

On 11/14/2023 at 3:48 PM, ucnum1 said:

https://www.commercialcafe.com/commercial-property/us/oh/cincinnati/4575-eastern-avenue/

 

Looks like a 5.5 acre lot with the original building and a clock tower on site being repurposed in the complex with 3 new build apartment buildings.Damn ambitious plan 

Here are some additional renderings. The Lofts on Eastern Avenue is just a working name lol. Intention is to preserve as much of the original structure as possible, bring back some of the historic features such as the block lettering, water tower, windows, and clockface. 

7 hours ago, dnymck said:

Here are some additional renderings. The Lofts on Eastern Avenue is just a working name lol. Intention is to preserve as much of the original structure as possible, bring back some of the historic features such as the block lettering, water tower, windows, and clockface. 

^Where were you able to find the other renderings? The city's site currently only has the second one.

 

Edited November 20, 20231 yr by Dev

1 hour ago, Dev said:

^Where were you able to find the other renderings? The city's site currently only has the second one.

 

 

(also there's a Linwood thread that this conversation should be moved to)

I'm the development manager for the project.

This looks like a great project, though I’m curious to see if it receives opposition from the neighborhood council, and if that ends up impacting final designs. It’s pretty far removed from neighbors, and I’m sure the businesses nearby would love it, but I’d assume there will also be a few very vocal NIMBY opponents due to the size.

9 minutes ago, Guy23 said:

This looks like a great project, though I’m curious to see if it receives opposition from the neighborhood council, and if that ends up impacting final designs. It’s pretty far removed from neighbors, and I’m sure the businesses nearby would love it, but I’d assume there will also be a few very vocal NIMBY opponents due to the size.

I talked to someone from their community council board not too long ago. She sounded fairly resigned about it, as if it's out of their hands? I think she was concerned about traffic but she also lives off the section of the neighborhood on Heekin so maybe folks down in the Beechmont area would have a different perspective.

  

1 hour ago, dnymck said:

I'm the development manager for the project.

Oh lol of course! I'm impressed by how much of the buildings will remain. Is the city requiring any of the sidewalks to be replaced, or any kind of traffic calming as part of the project? I'm just thinking of the Three Oaks development in Oakley is completely redoing everything along their side of Robertson.
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Hindsight being what it is, they probably should have made a TIF district for the area, especially with the HHS building scheduled to close, the boutique hotel at Luken, and all of that infill starting to go in on the bend along Eastern.

1 hour ago, Guy23 said:

This looks like a great project, though I’m curious to see if it receives opposition from the neighborhood council, and if that ends up impacting final designs. It’s pretty far removed from neighbors, and I’m sure the businesses nearby would love it, but I’d assume there will also be a few very vocal NIMBY opponents due to the size.

There was a developer a couple years ago that wanted to build apartments in Linwood in the Beechmont circle loop next to Beechmont avenue. I don’t remember how many units but it had a lot of opposition due to traffic even though it wouldn’t affect any side streets. Someone could literally propose a 4 unit apartment building and people would complain about traffic it would cause.

Community Councils overplayed their hand and cannot be taken seriously since they oppose everything. It seems like the majority of people who join Community Council boards are folks who have a lot of free time who then have the ability to show up at 2pm on a weekday to randomly oppose developments at meetings, when the majority of residents are likely indifferent or they support it (with the understanding of more residents = increased tax base = better amenities). 

 

What especially irks me is when you see homes in Mt Lookout or HP with anti-development yard signs and they are in a lot that was a teardown-rebuild. Rules for thee but not for me. 

20 hours ago, Dev said:

I talked to someone from their community council board not too long ago. She sounded fairly resigned about it, as if it's out of their hands? I think she was concerned about traffic but she also lives off the section of the neighborhood on Heekin so maybe folks down in the Beechmont area would have a different perspective.

We thankfully received a letter of support from the community council a few weeks back. It was a bit contentious with residents being concerned about traffic volumes and traffic safety, especially those residents on Heekin who experience people flying down the hill from Ault Park. Overall, I think the community understands that this blighted property needs to be redeveloped in order for their neighborhood and business district to take the next step. 

 

20 hours ago, Dev said:

Oh lol of course! I'm impressed by how much of the buildings will remain. Is the city requiring any of the sidewalks to be replaced, or any kind of traffic calming as part of the project? I'm just thinking of the Three Oaks development in Oakley is completely redoing everything along their side of Robertson.

Not sure yet regarding sidewalks, I certainly hope not because this project is already quite tight financially. We have requested that the city look into installing speedbumps and other traffic calming measures along Eastern. I actually added a Cincy Red Bike station to the project after seeing you mention it in another topic awhile back, so hopefully that further increases multi-modal usage of the street and thanks for that recommendation haha.

19 hours ago, dnymck said:

It was a bit contentious with residents being concerned about traffic volumes and traffic safety, especially those residents on Heekin who experience people flying down the hill from Ault Park.

I do remember her saying that, now that you mention it. I thought it was odd in the moment, I don't think the residents are all going to decide to go to Ault Park at the same time, but I can see why people might think that.

  

19 hours ago, dnymck said:

Not sure yet regarding sidewalks, I certainly hope not because this project is already quite tight financially. We have requested that the city look into installing speedbumps and other traffic calming measures along Eastern. I actually added a Cincy Red Bike station to the project after seeing you mention it in another topic awhile back, so hopefully that further increases multi-modal usage of the street and thanks for that recommendation haha.

Lolol that's awesome! I know Doug and some of the other Red Bike folks talk about how the concrete pad is the biggest issue with new stations so I just wanted to pass that along to people. I'm glad it worked out. I can imagine being able to take a ride down to Daylily and back would be a great amenity for residents. Given how long the project will take, hopefully the rail sale can provide more funding opportunities for traffic calming along Eastern. IIRC the NBD on Eastern will be getting bump-outs so at least that's a start.

1 hour ago, Dev said:

A great amenity for residents.

 

Sure does sound like a good time for the Oasis Line.

RIP

Wow! What a great development. I always was curious about this building.

 

That stretch of Eastern on Lindenwood seems to be coming along and this will add a huge punch to that.

 

Is there any idea on the number of residents who would live there / # of apartments?

On 11/21/2023 at 9:14 AM, wjh said:

Community Councils overplayed their hand and cannot be taken seriously since they oppose everything. It seems like the majority of people who join Community Council boards are folks who have a lot of free time who then have the ability to show up at 2pm on a weekday to randomly oppose developments at meetings

 

Same with condo HOA's and political protesters.  All of these people have some perverse need to be the center of attention. 

 

My brother's condo HOA only has 8 units but one of the guys has repeatedly sued the HOA for not controlling termites yet refuses to allow his unit to be treated.  He also installed his own personal cameras in shared hallways, then sued the HOA when they removed his cameras.  He also sued to force the HOA to hire an oversight company to audit the HOA voting process (again, only 8 units). 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, zsnyder said:

 

Sure does sound like a good time for the Oasis Line.

RIP

Is the Oasis Line officially dead? I keep holding out hope that the city can acquire the rights from the railroad, but I haven’t heard anything in a long time.

1 hour ago, Guy23 said:

Is the Oasis Line officially dead? I keep holding out hope that the city can acquire the rights from the railroad, but I haven’t heard anything in a long time.

Yeah basically. I was told in the spring the the city sent an offer for the easement on the Oasis Line west of Carrel Street for the Oasis Trail and SORTA has been taking steps to sell the line off.

I lived on Hoff Ave. in the 90s, and the Oasis was in my back yard. It was essentially a parking spot for the Ringling Brother's Circus at that point. 

 

I believe that the I&O Railway has perpetual easement to operate on the line and has made investments to expand capacity of the Undercliff yard so the railroad operations in that area will continue for the foreseeable future even if SORTA sells its interest.

13 hours ago, GHOST TRACKS said:

I believe that the I&O Railway has perpetual easement to operate on the line and has made investments to expand capacity of the Undercliff yard so the railroad operations in that area will continue for the foreseeable future even if SORTA sells its interest.

SORTA will be selling the property to the I&O Railway. I don't think they will be putting it out to bid.

So what does this mean for the CROWN if there’s no Oasis Trail to connect downtown to Lunken? Maybe the city could convert the Eastern Avenue bike lanes into a protected two way cycle track.

2 hours ago, Guy23 said:

So what does this mean for the CROWN if there’s no Oasis Trail to connect downtown to Lunken? Maybe the city could convert the Eastern Avenue bike lanes into a protected two way cycle track.

 

Oasis Trail is still moving forward AFAIK

The Oasis RAIL Line is not

37 minutes ago, Dev said:

 

Oasis Trail is still moving forward AFAIK

The Oasis RAIL Line is not

 

The Oasis commuter rail project wasn't a good plan because they were forcing themselves to spend a huge amount of money on capital improvements that probably didn't need to be made for a very small number of riders. 

 

 

 

If I recall correctly, the projected daily ridership for the Oasis commuter rail was similar to the projected daily ridership for the Streetcar. Except that the Oasis line was far more expensive to build. So, probably not the best use of limited transit dollars.

Initial ridership would certainly be too low to justify the cost, but there are plenty of examples of transit leading to denser land use, and future higher ridership. The issue is whether or not the effected communities would allow for that higher density.

Edited December 7, 20231 yr by Dev

January 5th city planning packet is out.Lot more visuals available  on the 274 unit Linwood site industrial site to housing conversion.Looks pretty cool.

 

 

On 12/28/2023 at 3:21 PM, ucnum1 said:

Lot more visuals available  on the 274 unit Linwood site industrial site to housing conversion.Looks pretty cool.

Lol love this quote from a submitted letter:
 

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'm always amused with those who suddenly fancy themselves as market research experts in multi-family (or any other asset class). I wanted to ask those who felt it was too many units, what is the correct number? The correct number is what CIG is planning to build. They're the ones that do this for a living across Cincinnati and the eastern United States. In addition to doing their extensive research, they likely have a lender looking over their shoulder who is not going to lend on what they deem to be an overbuilt project.

 

417 parking spaces no mention of any commercial space but wow what a nice reuse project.

 

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/01/09/linwood-leblond-factory-eyed-for-70-million-luxury-apartment-development/72119506007/

CIG Communities plans $70 million transformation of former Linwood factory

 

CIG Communities plans to rehabilitate part of the former RK LeBlond Machine Tool Company in Linwood, while also adding 271 apartment units in new buildings and 417 spaces in two parking garages, a $70 million investment.

 

The Cincinnati Planning Commission approved needed rezoning for the plan Jan. 5, with Cincinnati City Council approval also needed in the coming weeks. The zoning would go from manufacturing general to residential multi-family.

 

CIG will build two new four-story apartment buildings on 7.3 acres at 4575 Eastern Ave. in a project it is calling the Jasper. The project will include market-rate units as well as income-restricted units, a rare proposition in that part of the city. The developer is keeping a stone clock tower and one of the warehouse buildings. The southernmost building will be reused for 185 of the parking spaces and 44 apartments.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/01/10/cig-the-jasper-linwood-apartments-factory-convert.html

 

20 hours ago, ucnum1 said:

417 parking spaces no mention of any commercial space but wow what a nice reuse project.

 

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/01/09/linwood-leblond-factory-eyed-for-70-million-luxury-apartment-development/72119506007/

Can't build retail here unless you tried to do a major Factory 52 style development that drew a lot of interest (but there's really not enough land for that anyway). Need like $25/sf minimum to make retail break even at new construction costs, just don't see Linwood supporting those kinds of rents. We did look at bringing a brewery or some large format user who could afford it, but deemed it unlikely. Market is just too saturated near here. Hopefully this project will spur further development and fill some of the vacant/underutilized spaces already in the NBD.

It also doesn't need to artificially add retail, Turf Club and I think a brewery are already across the street. There's also an existing neighborhood business district just on the other side of Beechmont that could host a coffee place or something if the demand is there. Looks like an awesome project and I wish there was more adaptive reuse of old industrial like this going on around town.

 

22 hours ago, ucgrady said:

It also doesn't need to artificially add retail, Turf Club and I think a brewery are already across the street. There's also an existing neighborhood business district just on the other side of Beechmont that could host a coffee place or something if the demand is there. Looks like an awesome project and I wish there was more adaptive reuse of old industrial like this going on around town.

FWIW, the brewery was Bad Tom Smith's which moved to Madisonville. The space is still vacant however. Long-term the goal should be to road diet/traffic calm Eastern to increase the connectivity to the Columbia-Tusculum businesses. That pressure should increase over the next 5 years, as there is a builder who is buying up all the vacant properties on both sides of Eastern overlooking Lunken and plans to fill it all in.

Duke has started work on demolishing the old Propane Plant and Retired Natural Gas Regulator Station. The windows and shingles have been removed.

On 1/30/2024 at 9:26 AM, Dev said:

Duke has started work on demolishing the old Propane Plant and Retired Natural Gas Regulator Station. The windows and shingles have been removed.

These two buildings are completely gone now. I'm curious what happens next as unless they have something buried here, there's about 15 acres of unused land.

I used to live on Hoff overlooking this property in the 90s. When the landlord was showing me the property, one of her selling points was that you could watch barges race on the river from the back deck. 


Barges don't race on the river...but the view was ok.

Go baby go! I gotta lotta money on this one!

Roxanne Qualls has 2 large listings on Riverside across from the fairly new detached rowhomes that sit next to Verdin and near Home Court Tavern (fka Sinners & Saints). It is zoned RM-1.2, so "moderately" dense condos or apartments could go here in theory, but there's a missing parcel in the middle. Between the asking cost and the hillside mitigation, I would be surprised anything moves forward soon without that missing piece:

1906 Riverside Drive

1928 Riverside Drive

On 1/10/2024 at 4:39 PM, ColDayMan said:

CIG Communities plans $70 million transformation of former Linwood factory

 

CIG Communities plans to rehabilitate part of the former RK LeBlond Machine Tool Company in Linwood, while also adding 271 apartment units in new buildings and 417 spaces in two parking garages, a $70 million investment.

 

The Cincinnati Planning Commission approved needed rezoning for the plan Jan. 5, with Cincinnati City Council approval also needed in the coming weeks. The zoning would go from manufacturing general to residential multi-family.

 

CIG will build two new four-story apartment buildings on 7.3 acres at 4575 Eastern Ave. in a project it is calling the Jasper. The project will include market-rate units as well as income-restricted units, a rare proposition in that part of the city. The developer is keeping a stone clock tower and one of the warehouse buildings. The southernmost building will be reused for 185 of the parking spaces and 44 apartments.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2024/01/10/cig-the-jasper-linwood-apartments-factory-convert.html

 

Received word that we've received the $4.7mm Brownfield Remediation grant we applied for, timelines are tentative but we're hoping to start remediation and demo work in the next two or three months.

On 6/14/2024 at 12:12 PM, Dev said:

Roxanne Qualls has 2 large listings on Riverside across from the fairly new detached rowhomes that sit next to Verdin and near Home Court Tavern (fka Sinners & Saints). It is zoned RM-1.2, so "moderately" dense condos or apartments could go here in theory, but there's a missing parcel in the middle. Between the asking cost and the hillside mitigation, I would be surprised anything moves forward soon without that missing piece:

1906 Riverside Drive

1928 Riverside Drive

Looks like 1928 Riverside sold... but the other listing is still up.

CIG Communities lands $4.7M grant for redevelopment of East Side factory

By Brian Planalp – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier

Oct 25, 2024

 

A large state grant will advance work on a Cincinnati developer’s $70 million project to redevelop a blighted industrial site on the city’s East Side into hundreds of apartments.

 

The Ohio Department of Development in October awarded the Hamilton County Land Reutilization Corp. a $4.7 million grant from the state’s Demolition and Brownfield Remediation Program for cleanup and remediation of the multifamily project at 4575 Eastern Ave.

 

Downtown-based CIG Communities plans to create a 271-unit apartment complex at the site in a project called the Jasper.

 

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I wasn't thrilled with the design for the new-build structure surrounding the existing historic portions of the building so I've made some potential tweaks. Wondering if the group has any further suggestions? Trying to determine a good material for the inset balconies where white Hardie board is currently shown. Brick is likely not an option due to cost constraints. The unit floor plans are pretty much set so that articulation where the balconies inset can't change. Anybody want to take a stab at redesigning this or providing suggestions?

 

 

https://smallpdf.com/file#s=4eb0385d-ae64-487d-a156-0f226863a690