April 2, 20223 yr A little friendly competition between developers never hurts. Maybe this will turn out like a mini Battle for the Sky, and one of them will pull a Chrysler Building and secretly give us an extra hundred feet at the last minute. Edited April 2, 20223 yr by PoshSteve typo
April 2, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, KJP said: I spoke too soon. Today, Dimit Architects began submitting documents the city for its construction permit for the south building of the Silverhills development. They specified only the south building, which is the smaller of the two riverfront buildings. It's a 44,171 square foot structure offering 42 apartments in a four-story building. The owner is listed as ESH FLATS, LLC, 72 WYCHWOOD DR., MORELAND HILLS OH 44022. This is going to be close as to which one sees construction start first. North building also
April 2, 20223 yr Also it looks like most of the permits have been submitted for the NRP development. There is about 7 or 8 of them. Too many to c&p
April 2, 20223 yr Author Awesome. Going to be busy times on Scranton Peninsula. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 3, 20223 yr Happy this is finally coming to fruition after the Thunderbird talks started years ago. The Thunderbird signage has been posted down there so long that they’re completely sun bleached and decaying. Stinks that it took another developer moving in to finally light a fire under NRP but hey, whatever it takes. Edited April 3, 20223 yr by BJBaes
April 13, 20223 yr ya just gotta love this very cool angle pic -- and the potential! 👍 via Linda Butler
April 13, 20223 yr Author 59 minutes ago, Oldmanladyluck said: @KJPDo you think this will help push the old-money family property owners on Scranton Peninsula to sell? The peninsula itself is gonna look kind of weird with all the development taking place around it and it just sitting there waiting on God only knows. @OldmanladyluckNo. It might take eminent domain at some point, however. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20223 yr Author NRP Group got hit with a BZA violation notice today at 1951 and 1959 Carter Road. I can't pull up the notice to see what the violation was. NRP will probably appeal saying they're about to begin construction, and contend that whatever triggered the building inspector probably isn't going to be around much longer. Correction -- found a few more for 1953, 1955, 1957, 1961 and 1974 Carter. This sounds more like a building department review of plans and staff found that some setbacks or other features in the plans don't conform to code and have to either be redesigned or appealed. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 15, 20223 yr How are you guys liking the new renderings for the Peninsula? Not totally loving the townhouses, but the apartments are a big upgrade. Edited June 15, 20223 yr by CleveFan
June 15, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, CleveFan said: How are you guys liking the new renderings for the Peninsula? Not loving the townhouses, but the apartments are a big upgrade. Atleast the townhomes have front porches.
June 15, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, CleveFan said: How are you guys liking the new renderings for the Peninsula? Not totally loving the townhouses, but the apartments are a big upgrade. Did you get these new renderings from a recently published article? If so, can you please send the link?
June 15, 20223 yr https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2022/06/14/the-peninsula-reveals-final-look.html
June 15, 20223 yr I would say the townhouses need some window boxes and small trees to break up the monotony of the front facade. I love all the townhouses that were built 10-15 years ago that did this, as they have great privacy and character.
June 15, 20222 yr Front porches?? I know this is anecdotal but some kind of outdoor space (porch, deck, terrace etc.) is driving us to move. While we love our totally enclosed Condo on the Rocky River my wife is now demanding some outdoor space. We can't be alone in this. So as I've been following all the new residential growth I can't seem to find a place that's affordable and has outside space. Plenty of apartments for rent, a lesser number of for sale units and an even smaller number that have outside space that is affordable. Maybe developers can't do anything about the cost but it seems they can do something about adding outside space. I'm sure there's a market for it.
June 16, 20222 yr On 4/12/2022 at 11:50 PM, mrnyc said: ya just gotta love this very cool angle pic -- and the potential! 👍 via Linda Butler This would be a great picture for a Sherwin-Williams visualization rendering 😉
June 16, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Watertiger1962 said: This would be a great picture for a Sherwin-Williams visualization rendering 😉 Yes it would 😉
June 16, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, Geowizical said: Yes it would 😉 And at the risk of going off topic for one second - that pic above really makes me want that new Bedrock 600 footer on the Nucleus site - I'm picturing the skyline with that added in!
June 16, 20222 yr 7 hours ago, Geowizical said: Yes it would 😉 Now that I have really looked at this picture, I realize it’s missing the Hilton hotel, beacon tower and lumen tower.
June 16, 20222 yr Cross posting from the flats development thread. Confirmation in the Metroparks agenda that they will be involved in developing trails on the western half of Scranton Peninsula. 7 hours ago, Ethan said: From the Metroparks Agenda: Marlin has agreed to sell the ± 1.1-acre property via fee simple title for $4,000,000. Cleveland Metroparks will work to secure outside funding and other creative sources to help fund the acquisition, but the acquisition will not be contingent upon being awarded such funds. Staff will come back to the Board to finalize any potential grant application(s) in the coming months and is currently exploring other partnerships to help preserve the Marlin Property, up to and including seeking a partner to assign a partial interest in the purchase agreement for the non-riverfront portion of the Marlin Property for future development. Acquisition of the Marlin Property would further the vision of connecting Rivergate Park and Flats East Bank along the Cuyahoga River for public access and enjoyment for future generations. Also this: The first one we already knew about, but it hasn't been confirmed for a while since its initial report. The second isn't too much of a surprise, and I think there's been some rumors about it, but I'm very excited about it. The Metropark's involvement is obviously a good sign for anyone interested in quality trails and green space! (Also seeing the added land to Rivergate park makes me think that British St. aught to be closed, it serves no purpose, and I'm sure the metroparks could make more use of the newly acquired space if it were continuous.)
June 16, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, Ethan said: Cross posting from the flats development thread. Confirmation in the Metroparks agenda that they will be involved in developing trails on the western half of Scranton Peninsula. That's great news. The Metroparks is more like the Meidasparks with regards to development.
June 16, 20222 yr 17 hours ago, Geowizical said: Yes it would 😉 please do — before i make a ruinous DALL-E mini of it. 😂
June 18, 20222 yr Author Tons of building permit applications being submitted in the last couple of days for The Peninsula, NRP Group's development on the land side of Carter Road. But NRP's prior permit applications for this project have yet to be processed by the city despite being submitted 2.5 months ago. I hope there's a good reason. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 20, 20222 yr On 6/14/2022 at 10:02 PM, CleveFan said: How are you guys liking the new renderings for the Peninsula? Not totally loving the townhouses, but the apartments are a big upgrade. Looks like Anytown, USA
June 20, 20222 yr 34 minutes ago, yanni_gogolak said: Looks like Anytown, USA All that room down there and they left zero space for street trees.
June 20, 20222 yr Looks like Anytown, USACompletely agree, more often than not that’s what gies delivers. Glad they develop a lot around the city but their designs look like any hotel building the burbs. Really wish they took more inspiration from the original concepts that created a true neighborhood feel and a good pedestrian experience.
June 20, 20222 yr 9 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: I see what you all mean re: generic architecture. I see a little bit of brick mixed in there- it’d be really nice if they made that the predominant material used. Maybe it’d also help if the buildings themselves weren’t all the same size/shape? I definitely think that projects like these should attempt to respect the history of the neighborhoods they build in.
June 20, 20222 yr Author That was the conceptual design for the Flats East Bank by the Thunderbird group of real estate firms. And I much prefer the conceptual design vs. what is actually planned. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 20, 20222 yr ^ Right . That design doesn't look all that bad at least from that view. Not outstanding but not terrible either. Later designs look worse IMO.
June 21, 20222 yr 18 hours ago, BoomerangCleRes said: For context . Source https://jrocdevelopment.com/thunderbird-cleveland/ I don't recall noticing that this one has the Tremont Black apartments in it. Thunderbird was a high quality presentation to sell the project. You can now literally see the difference in getting what you pay for.
June 21, 20222 yr I'm hearing Great Lakes Brewing is now planning a complete brewery relocation to the peninsula, but would like to have a buyer for the existing site identified to help them understand the financial impact. There are some new motivating forces necessitating the move.
June 21, 20222 yr Author 35 minutes ago, scb0525 said: I'm hearing Great Lakes Brewing is now planning a complete brewery relocation to the peninsula, but would like to have a buyer for the existing site identified to help them understand the financial impact. There are some new motivating forces necessitating the move. What are those motivating forces? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 21, 20222 yr ^ As long as it isn’t selling out to ‘big beer’ (looking at you, Platform). My hovercraft is full of eels
June 23, 20222 yr On 6/21/2022 at 1:29 PM, roman totale XVII said: ^ As long as it isn’t selling out to ‘big beer’ (looking at you, Platform). I'm sure they could have sold before Platform was even an idea.
June 24, 20222 yr They received $1.9 million in Brownfield Funds - https://www.ceacisp.org/news/26-northeast-ohio-projects-win-state-brownfield-grants
September 12, 20222 yr Looks like the Silverhills at Thunderbird project is moving forward. https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/apartment-developers-pay-59-million-slice-clevelands-scranton-peninsula
September 12, 20222 yr 23 minutes ago, Ethan said: Looks like the Silverhills at Thunderbird project is moving forward. https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/apartment-developers-pay-59-million-slice-clevelands-scranton-peninsula Apparently there was a competition to design the world's most basic-looking building and Silverhills won!
September 12, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, ryanfrazier said: Apparently there was a competition to design the world's most basic-looking building and Silverhills won! There is just something very unappealing about having several buildings clustered all about the same height.
September 12, 20222 yr And what exactly is wrong with building a bunch of bland low rise apartments on a strategic peninsula right across from downtown? That's a rhetorical question by the way.
September 12, 20222 yr Looks like someone dropped a little slice of Polaris Parkway into the Scranton peninsula.
September 12, 20222 yr Author Silverhills' and NRP Group's permit applications are still proceeding through the city's building department. There's a ton of them! And you're going to start to see some dirt moving for the Great Lakes site. It looks like they've already cleared the brush away and marked off the property's corners. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 13, 20222 yr The Silverhills project plans a groundbreaking in October according to the Crain's article. Aesthetics aside that's exciting.
September 13, 20222 yr It’s an uninspired project in a strategic spot - and that’s unfortunate - but at least it’s continuing a pretty amazing couple of years in Cleveland development - and the trend towards downtown residential. There’s room for more exciting projects yet to come - and I can’t wait to see what’s just over the horizon.
September 20, 20222 yr Author "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 20, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: The peninsulas of Scranton and Merwin would be perfect for Over The Rhine Style development. They were actually originally subdivided as such. I'll take whatever at this point though. Still feels too car dependent however.
September 27, 20222 yr On 9/20/2022 at 2:10 PM, KJP said: FYI, EDG is a design firm, not a contractor.
September 29, 20222 yr Author So who placed bets on Silverhills starting construction before NRP Group? If you did, please collect your winnings at the cage cashier... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 1, 20222 yr On 9/29/2022 at 1:48 PM, KJP said: So who placed bets on Silverhills starting construction before NRP Group? If you did, please collect your winnings at the cage cashier... Fantastic news but I worry that this will end up like battery park. Dense but not walk-able and still auto dependent.
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