November 12, 20195 yr Author 33 minutes ago, w28th said: That house has been pulled from the docket and will not be built. Sorry... Boo! EDIT: ever, @w28th?? Edited November 12, 20195 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 12, 20195 yr Took a quick photo of the Avian building this weekend; unobstructed views of the Cuyahoga, the Carter Road bridges and downtown? Sign me up ? clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
November 12, 20195 yr Author Wow, that's a sudden change. What happened? Is Lake Link LLC going to sell the property or still be involved? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 12, 20195 yr I'd rather they don't build into that hillside. And I'd rather that they don't turn Carter Road into a long series of curb cuts.
November 12, 20195 yr Since the first in December of last year, 6 residential building permits have been filed for different homes in this development. And still nothing has been built. I'm pretty sure they just weren't approved.
November 12, 20195 yr 20 minutes ago, tykaps said: Since the first in December of last year, 6 residential building permits have been filed for different homes in this development. And still nothing has been built. I'm pretty sure they just weren't approved. Why would that be? Have people purchased these properties and now can't build on them?
November 12, 20195 yr On 10/15/2019 at 5:22 PM, CbusTransit said: Thunderbird was the marketing name for a vision plan by the owner of the entire Scranton peninsula. They sold off chunks of Scranton peninsula to developers to actually build things. One chunk was sold to NRP group for this development. Actually the TOTAL Scranton Peninsula is about 75+ ACRES TOTAL. The Scranton-Averell Inc. owns more than 50 ACRES of the rest of the Scranton Peninsula. And the "Thunderbird" land was originally approximately 25 acres and owned by the EWALT LLC partership. They are in the process of selling the following parcels: The NRP project is about 7 acres. And Great Lakes Brewing has already bought about 8 acres with an option to buy another 2 acres. SOURCE: https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/06/forest_city_to_sell_scranton_peninsula.html Edited February 12, 20205 yr by Larry1962 More details and number of acres
November 12, 20195 yr 17 hours ago, simplythis said: Have any of these 12 homes been built or is this the first one? From what I understand the developer is building the homes as the lots are sold.
November 12, 20195 yr 12 minutes ago, Larry1962 said: From what I understand the developer is building the homes as the lots are sold. So I assume no lots have been sold yet.
November 13, 20195 yr 22 hours ago, simplythis said: So I assume no lots have been sold yet. These lots are all owned by Brickhaus Integrity Ohio City LLC (in addition, the LOT 1 and LOT 2 shown are also owned by Brickhaus Integrity OC). Edited November 13, 20195 yr by GISguy trying to remove second screenshot
November 13, 20195 yr Author 17 minutes ago, GISguy said: These lots are all owned by Brickhaus Integrity Ohio City LLC (in addition, the LOT 1 and LOT 2 shown are also owned by Brickhaus Integrity OC). Lots 1-12 are all shown as owned by Lake Link LLC, except for lot 3 which was Cheryl A. D'Amico from Fairfield Redevelopment LLC on Oct. 12, 2018 for $165,000. At least one of the Brickhaus properties may sell soon. An out-of-town developer is looking. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 13, 20195 yr Werent there issues with the hillside here? Perhaps thats why its been so slow?
November 13, 20195 yr 7 minutes ago, mack34 said: Werent there issues with the hillside here? Perhaps thats why its been so slow? That could be. I'm surprised they haven't sold. Other single-family home properties in that area have been selling quickly and at high prices.
November 13, 20195 yr 30 minutes ago, KJP said: Lots 1-12 are all shown as owned by Lake Link LLC, except for lot 3 which was Cheryl A. D'Amico from Fairfield Redevelopment LLC on Oct. 12, 2018 for $165,000. At least one of the Brickhaus properties may sell soon. An out-of-town developer is looking. Whoops, I was working off of a different dataset than MyPlace, thanks for the heads up!
November 15, 20195 yr I still believe this is the perfect place for a sport complex, Football Stadium, Soccer stadium, Field House (with 300 m track), Canoe/Kayak, and various residential projects.
November 15, 20195 yr Author 27 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said: I still believe this is the perfect place for a sport complex, Football Stadium, Soccer stadium, Field House (with 300 m track), Canoe/Kayak, and various residential projects. Yep, lots of space....but horrible access routes. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 15, 20195 yr 11 minutes ago, KJP said: Yep, lots of space....but horrible access routes. That can be remedied, yes?
November 15, 20195 yr 3 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said: That can be remedied, yes? Get a box of tissues and look at pictures of the Eagle Avenue Viaduct from the Cleveland Memory project. http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm/search/field/subjec/searchterm/Eagle Avenue Viaduct (Cleveland, Ohio)/mode/exact
November 15, 20195 yr ^ I get excited by urban density, but not *that* excited. My hovercraft is full of eels
November 15, 20195 yr 1 minute ago, roman totale XVII said: ^ I get excited by urban density, but not *that* excited. It's about development being thicker, not longer distances! Also, with respect to access:
November 15, 20195 yr Author 49 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said: That can be remedied, yes? At great expense, yes. Perhaps $100+ million to restore the Eagle Avenue ramp, plus more to widen Scranton Road and provide some transit access (such as an Eagle Avenue rail station). And at that expense, it would cost less to raze a couple dozen small structures in the East 20s north of St. Clair. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 16, 20195 yr To NRP's credit they are well funded and get stuff done. I just wish they paid for better design and construction.
December 27, 20195 yr Quick drive by pic of the Avian building redevelopment from today. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
January 2, 20205 yr On 12/27/2019 at 4:42 PM, MayDay said: Quick drive by pic of the Avian building redevelopment from today. What is that building being converting into? https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
January 2, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, Firenze98 said: What is that building being converting into? Office space. https://jrocdevelopment.com/the-avian-at-thunderbird/
January 2, 20205 yr 2 hours ago, marty15 said: Office space. https://jrocdevelopment.com/the-avian-at-thunderbird/ Whoa, that gallery looks really sweet.
January 18, 20205 yr The Loopnet posting for the Thunderbird site is now listed as For Lease/Relet. It is usually listed as For Sale. I wonder if that might make it more attractive for commercial tenants as opposed to residential. I am sure they have pitched it to SW, I mean who hasn't. https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/Scranton-Peninsula-Cleveland-OH/12944713/
February 12, 20205 yr Some pictures of the Avian Office building being redeveloped from earlier today. One of the foreman told me that the renovations should be completed this fall. Edited February 12, 20205 yr by Larry1962
February 12, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, tykaps said: Do they have a tenant lined up yet? From what I hear they do have a couple of potential tenants, but no signed leases yet.
February 18, 20205 yr Author Multiple applications on BZA's agenda for next week (Feb. 24) relating to the NRP residential project on the Thunderbird portion of Scranton Peninsula...... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2020/crr02-24-2020.pdf "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 18, 20205 yr Author "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 14, 20205 yr Author 11 hours ago, Larry1962 said: So I assume that the Flats Industrial Railroad will sell their right of ways property on the Scranton Peninsula to either the Thunderbird Project Partership OR to NRP to allow them to build a larger apartment project and or a large mix use project? Especially IF they can buy at least part of the rest of the Scranton Peninsula that is owned by the 100+ year old Trust. Probably best to answer that question here. Unfortunately, I promised a source I wouldn't say too much about it until they were ready for something to go public. But suffice it to say, it's opened up a lot conversations about the future. BTW if you follow the right of way, you realize how far it goes to the SW (to near Clinton Road). The realization will probably lead to a discussion about future RTA rail projects (in one of the RTA threads), if RTA was actually in expansion mode. OK, I'll jump this post to one of the RTA threads.... EDIT: jumped it to here..... Edited May 14, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 1, 20205 yr https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/an-office-space-specifically-designed-to-prevent-the-spread-of-viruses-is-being-built-in-cleveland?_amp=true Update on the Avian
June 1, 20205 yr On 6/1/2020 at 4:57 PM, tykaps said: https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/an-office-space-specifically-designed-to-prevent-the-spread-of-viruses-is-being-built-in-cleveland?_amp=true Update on the Avian Just a heads up, larger photos are served on the non-AMP version of the page (?_amp=true stripped off the end of the link): https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/an-office-space-specifically-designed-to-prevent-the-spread-of-viruses-is-being-built-in-cleveland Edit: In fact, they actually have surprisingly high-resolution (4K) original images, e.g.:https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/a7/f4/e14c75f448a88a4023adfbb5039b/avian-front-entrance.JPG If anyone wants an original link to a particular image in the article, I can link to one. Here's another cool high-res render: https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/ff/ae/f639435a47c3a5742fee35caf5e5/avian-lounge-2.JPG Edit 2: Screw it, I was bored, so here's a bookmarklet you can add to your browser. If you save this as a bookmark destination and click on it while on a page on their site, it will then open any image's full size version in a new tab when you click on images throughout the page. (make sure to copy/paste the entire thing) javascript:(function()%7Bdocument.addEventListener('click'%2C%20(e)%20%3D%3E%20%7Bconst%20el%20%3D%20e.target%3Bif%20(el.tagName%20!%3D%3D%20%22IMG%22)%20return%3Bconst%20imgUrl%20%3D%20new%20URL(el.src)%3Bconst%20imgParams%20%3D%20new%20URLSearchParams(imgUrl.search)%3Bif%20(!imgParams.has('url'))%20return%3Bwindow.open(imgParams.get('url'))%3B%7D)%7D)() Edit: Thread for feedback, support, requests, etc, and another bookmarklet for Cleveland.com articles Edited June 4, 20205 yr by infrafreak added high res example, bookmarklet, clarified instructions
June 1, 20205 yr Love the fact that they are building this to connect to the trails. That is awesome.
June 2, 20205 yr That would be awesome to work in a place like that. An easy, off-road bike commute! Plus you could conveniently take a lunch break ride. Whoever ends up working here is going to be pretty spoiled. Cool building and great connectivity / location.
June 2, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, urbanetics_ said: That would be awesome to work in a place like that. An easy, off-road bike commute! Plus you could conveniently take a lunch break ride. Whoever ends up working here is going to be pretty spoiled. Cool building and great connectivity / location. But, BUT not enough parking! /sarcasm
June 4, 20205 yr good timing for geis to make those changes and free publicity. the renders look great. the best thing about this project is its got the moniker the avian at thunderbird. a forward looking sign of much more to come i would hope.
June 9, 20205 yr Author "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 9, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, KJP said: I did this plat a couple years ago, it looks like it's the only parcel that was sold out of this bunch on Carter. PPN 00426031 and AFN 201801260402 for the curious.
June 13, 20205 yr Author SATURDAY, JUNE 13, 2020 NRP Group's Scranton Peninsula project delayed but alive The first new-construction structural project on Scranton Peninsula, NRP Group's proposed residential complex, got slightly delayed by the COVID-19 pandemic-related shutdowns of the economy. But sources at the Cleveland-based development company say the project, which could be one of the company's last market-rate offerings, is very much alive. Last fall, when NRP Group won city approvals to build The Peninsula, company officials said they hoped they could start construction as early as July on the 330-unit residential development. The project is proposed to offer 315 apartments and 15 townhouses. Scranton Peninsula is located across the Cuyahoga River from downtown Cleveland's Tower City complex. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/06/nrp-groups-scranton-peninsula-project.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 14, 20205 yr Glad its still alive, though still not crazy for the design. Also happy to see NRP is going to become more active in their focus on affordable housing. Too many developers are going the opposite way, and the current supply and pipeline is woefully inadequate.
June 15, 20204 yr I’ve never been crazy about the U-shaped style complexes where two inner sides are looking across at each other. But, let’s be honest- if the NRP Peninsula project does happen, it will be a major step forward for undeveloped land within very close proximity to public square. I haven’t seen other renderings outside of @KJP’s article, but the project looks very big in scale - and the buildings look like they might have a very clean contemporary look. Add the developments on the board for the West Bank and Superior Viaduct we might be on the cusp of a fairly historic transformation just west of downtown. I’m certainly not going to quibble about one particular aspect of the project design. I’m loving the energy of the big picture in the downtown region! Edited June 15, 20204 yr by CleveFan
August 13, 20204 yr Did something change and the canning facility for GLBC end up in Strongsville instead of the Penisula? Don't even remember hearing of an expansion to Strongsville.
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