December 21, 20231 yr On 11/8/2019 at 11:30 AM, Htsguy said: This seems to have been a curious design mistake from day one. I cannot tell you how many times during rush hour I would be flying down 1-480 westbound with no problem and then hit that point and it was a cluster f#@k and then once you passed it smooth sailing again. Well, the construction project is completed and they managed to squeeze a 3rd lane onto the 2 lane bridges over the rail tracks and SR 237, so this may ease the nightly bottleneck on I-480 westbound at I-71. Of course the shoulders are very narrow now, hopefully that won't be an issue. On 11/14/2019 at 5:41 PM, KJP said: I think you mean that the highway was built too close to the rail line. But ODOT didn't want to build I-480 a little farther south or some of its right of way might have ended up across Brookpark Road and in a city other than Cleveland. Some of you may not remember that the City of Cleveland sued ODOT and won because, when ODOT design I-480, it purposefully routed I-480 in Cleveland and not in Parma or Brook Park because the smaller cities would have had a harder time coming up with the local funding match for the construction. Routing I-480 south of Brookpark Rd in that vicinity would have been a challenge due to GM plant, Ford plant, Holy Cross Cemetery, Hopkins airport, etc. IIRC, Cleveland sued ODOT because larger cities, such as Cleveland, were required to pay a larger share than smaller cities for the local funding. It was the Cleveland section of I-480 that was the last to be completed.
March 2, 20241 yr Another day for the ages on cleveland streets When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
March 12, 20241 yr I never knew about the Scramble Intersection. But there are a couple in downtown Toronto. I could see them in Cleveland maybe for heavy traffic hours or game days when pedestrian traffic is higher. Or even when there is very little vehicle traffic. Edited March 12, 20241 yr by freethink .
June 7, 20241 yr Here's a map of the 100 speed tables going in (in Cleveland): https://clevelandgis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/basic/index.html?appid=0b4e789a00d4449c9e21aac3a9c7cf13 Edited June 7, 20241 yr by GISguy
August 4, 2024Aug 4 is that the mayor? 😂👍 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C72LwbeJChH/?igsh=eXR5NGdtd2R1ZWdh
September 17, 2024Sep 17 Looks like there are plans to improve I90 access ramps to make them less of a barrier for pedestrians and cyclists and increase resident connectivity to the lake.
September 18, 2024Sep 18 11 hours ago, Ethan said: Looks like there are plans to improve I90 access ramps to make them less of a barrier for pedestrians and cyclists and increase resident connectivity to the lake. Awesome -- a welcome planning project for "simplifying the two-mile segment's 12 [TWELVE!] access ramps and identifying the locations and types of crossings for bicyclists and pedestrians."
September 18, 2024Sep 18 22 hours ago, Ethan said: Looks like there are plans to improve I90 access ramps to make them less of a barrier for pedestrians and cyclists and increase resident connectivity to the lake. The current ramp across I90 in Gordon Park isn't ADA compliant or up to today's standards for that matter. It seems like 1.5M is low to replace that bridge, it's probably to make the descent on the northern side safer and better connected. CHEERS long term goals include taking out the 72nd St exit, so this could be a nice short term fix for the on/off ramps around it - they're a mess. MLK exits seem like a lost cause, especially since they were just redone. E55 is also a mess coming from the south, but hopefully once NEORD's project wraps, getting it back to two lanes through there will make that a bit safer.
September 18, 2024Sep 18 I wish they'd add the W.7th to 490 ramp to the study. Not related to lake access, of course, but it's among the worst pedestrian crossings I can think of.
December 27, 2024Dec 27 Woah, big sinkhole on the northeast corner of East 9th and the Shoreway exit. The US Cod team made a Facebook post with these pictures https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02Uc4pT1gdoFs4bDD57DkgXoDy2N1aDFUCPFBz7rTwXcwLQhW7opf5Duy9LaqFMuPnl&id=100063858001481 “…The reason is a massive sinkhole that collapsed the east sidewalk and is undermining the entire northbound lane of 9th Street where it meets north Marginal Rd., just outside the Rock Hall and USCG compound. In fact there's scarey evidence that the sinkhole has fissures extending 50 feet towards the Coast Guard fence and the Rock Hall. The sidewalks have deep dips and in one area the sidewalk has pulled away from the curb! Check out the pictures! Cod is open daily from 11 to 5:00 except new year's day. Call 440-832-9722 for daily updated information.” “Cod crewman Dave Krejci illustrates a sinkhole in the sidewalk more than 60 feet north of the sinkhole!” When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
December 27, 2024Dec 27 That is not a sinkhole. Browns are doing some soil testing for a new dome stadium at that intersection. People should get their facts right. On a more serious note. I see some utilities in the pics. Wonder if a water line has been leaking forever underground and washing away the surrounding soil.
February 1Feb 1 a dead man’s curve insta — https://www.instagram.com/p/DFgSHkDSs1d/?igsh=aXB5aWQ5em1vNDhm
February 12Feb 12 Oh this thing is awesome! New peanut roundabout North Ridgeville. Hopefully we get a bunch more of these. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 12Feb 12 21 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Oh this thing is awesome! New peanut roundabout North Ridgeville. Hopefully we get a bunch more of these. My parents live in that neighborhood, so I have gone through it half a dozen times since it opened. Its such an improvement from the old configuration! Using the thumbnail image as a reference, if you were on Mills Rd (by the Channel 5 ABC logo) , trying to go turn left towards the development, cars would fly from around the bend on Stoney Ridge Rd (Where it says "We Follow Through"). If someone on Stoney Ridge was going particularly fast, you would have to floor the gas pedal to get enough space so they wouldn't hit you, and then stomp on the brakes to make the turn into the development. Not ideal! But this so much more fluid and safe. They also built it very quickly. I'd absolutely support this design being used elsewhere.
February 12Feb 12 35 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Oh this thing is awesome! New peanut roundabout North Ridgeville. Hopefully we get a bunch more of these. 5 minutes ago, Zagapi said: My parents live in that neighborhood, so I have gone through it half a dozen times since it opened. Its such an improvement from the old configuration! Using the thumbnail image as a reference, if you were on Mills Rd (by the Channel 5 ABC logo) , trying to go turn left towards the development, cars would fly from around the bend on Stoney Ridge Rd (Where it says "We Follow Through"). If someone on Stoney Ridge was going particularly fast, you would have to floor the gas pedal to get enough space so they wouldn't hit you, and then stomp on the brakes to make the turn into the development. Not ideal! But this so much more fluid and safe. They also built it very quickly. I'd absolutely support this design being used elsewhere. Thanks for those details. I was thinking it would be nice to have old image to compare so I grabbed it from G Maps When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 12Feb 12 2 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Oh this thing is awesome! New peanut roundabout North Ridgeville. Hopefully we get a bunch more of these. A similar design was proposed for Coventry-Fairmount in Cleveland Heights but the city shot it down. Glad to hear it works well!
February 12Feb 12 13 minutes ago, Foraker said: A similar design was proposed for Coventry-Fairmount in Cleveland Heights but the city shot it down. Glad to hear it works well! Interesting, do you have any documentation or images of the proposal?
February 12Feb 12 22 minutes ago, Ethan said: Interesting, do you have any documentation or images of the proposal? I did, but I do not have permission from the author to share them. Dogbone roundabout, with the long axis generally aligned with Coventry.
February 12Feb 12 1 hour ago, Foraker said: A similar design was proposed for Coventry-Fairmount in Cleveland Heights but the city shot it down. Glad to hear it works well! 44 minutes ago, Foraker said: I did, but I do not have permission from the author to share them. Dogbone roundabout, with the long axis generally aligned with Coventry. Oh that would be so much better! People don’t realize how much faster and more consistently they can get through a roundabout intersection. Roundabouts are one of those things that people fight back against so hard right up until they go in, then people love them. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 13Feb 13 3 hours ago, X said: Hooray for the highway onrampification of surface streets! Huh? Are you missing what a massive safety improvement the peanut roundabout will be at that intersection? Slowing down all vehicles entering an intersection is good, actually. The throughput improvement (compared to traffic lights) is because you don’t have to stop and wait at a red light at an empty intersection. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 13Feb 13 33 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Huh? Are you missing what a massive safety improvement the peanut roundabout will be at that intersection? Slowing down all vehicles entering an intersection is good, actually. The throughput improvement (compared to traffic lights) is because you don’t have to stop and wait at a red light at an empty intersection. Keep that traffic flowing! Keep it moving! That's the real point of these convoluted messes. That and an excuse to pour more asphault.
February 13Feb 13 8 minutes ago, X said: Keep that traffic flowing! Keep it moving! That's the real point of these convoluted messes. That and an excuse to pour more asphault. Roundabouts offer a 90-95% reduction in serious traffic crashes (those resulting in death or serious injury). These are unequivocally massive safety improvements, which is the primary purpose of their installation. The fact that traffic also has higher throughput is an added benefit. Another way of thinking about it: at a traffic light or two way stop, only one driver has to screw up for there to be a serious crash. At any form of properly designed roundabout, two drivers have to screw up for there to be a serious crash. This drastically reduces the risk of such a crash. The benefits of forcing all drivers to slow down at intersections are dramatic. Pedestrians also benefit from that reduced vehicle speed, since speed is exponentially related to pedestrian fatalities. And as far as asphalt - since they do have better throughput, a single lane roundabout can often eliminate turning lanes. I can think of countless intersections in the Heights and along SOM Center where roundabouts would require less asphalt than the current intersections have (eg Coventry and Fairmont). This is a good project that should be celebrated. It will drastically reduce the risk of someone dying at this intersection. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 13Feb 13 Since traffic doesn't stop and they require elongated pedestrian pathways to navigate, I am going to continue thinking of them as a disaster for pedestrians. But, hey, they do keep the traffic flowing fast and smooth, and that's what we really care about in the US of A.
February 13Feb 13 12 minutes ago, X said: Since traffic doesn't stop and they require elongated pedestrian pathways to navigate, I am going to continue thinking of them as a disaster for pedestrians. But, hey, they do keep the traffic flowing fast and smooth, and that's what we really care about in the US of A. Traffic actually slows (the throughput increases but the speed decreases not as many cars have to come to a complete stop and those that do usually can go again quickly) -- this is a huge benefit for pedestrians. Roundabouts do not inherently increase pedestrian pathways. If done well, pedestrian pathways are not longer and are much more visible and safer. Roundabouts are not appropriate everywhere, however, something that bears repeating.
February 13Feb 13 33 minutes ago, X said: Since traffic doesn't stop and they require elongated pedestrian pathways to navigate, I am going to continue thinking of them as a disaster for pedestrians. But, hey, they do keep the traffic flowing fast and smooth, and that's what we really care about in the US of A. This intersection is now safer for pedestrians because every vehicle has to slow down. Look at the before and after pictures - there were no pedestrian pathways at all before this project. Now people have short crossings where traffics actually has to slow down. The images are right here in the thread and you are ignoring them! This is a huge win for pedestrians. This is a huge win for drivers. This a huge win for everyone who would prefer not to die from traffic violence. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 13Feb 13 1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said: This intersection is now safer for pedestrians because every vehicle has to slow down. Look at the before and after pictures - there were no pedestrian pathways at all before this project. Now people have short crossings where traffics actually has to slow down. The images are right here in the thread and you are ignoring them! This is a huge win for pedestrians. This is a huge win for drivers. This a huge win for everyone who would prefer not to die from traffic violence. I'm not ignoring anything. I see the pictures. If the point was to improve pedestrian access and safety, they would put in sidewalks, highly visible crosswalks, and a four way stop. The point here is to keep cars moving, though, so they create a system where cars never have to stop, which means that pedestrians have to wait for a break in traffic or someone to take pity on them and hold up traffic in the middle of the roundabout. I get it, it's North Ridgeville and nobody cares about pedestrians, but don't crap in my shoe and told me you baked me brownies. A slowed car isn't a stopped car, and a pedestrian is never given priority at these intersections. This wasn't done for them, and doesn't benefit them.
February 13Feb 13 1 hour ago, X said: I'm not ignoring anything. I see the pictures. If the point was to improve pedestrian access and safety, they would put in sidewalks, highly visible crosswalks, and a four way stop. The point here is to keep cars moving, though, so they create a system where cars never have to stop, which means that pedestrians have to wait for a break in traffic or someone to take pity on them and hold up traffic in the middle of the roundabout. I get it, it's North Ridgeville and nobody cares about pedestrians, but don't crap in my shoe and told me you baked me brownies. A slowed car isn't a stopped car, and a pedestrian is never given priority at these intersections. This wasn't done for them, and doesn't benefit them. Any pedestrian who has to cross this road is far, far safer than they were before this project. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 13Feb 13 It's a question of making sure good pedestrian access is a part of the design and of volume. If a roundabout has cars moving across all parts of it at all times that's a really high volume junction and additional pedestrian infrastructure such as a bridge or pedestrian subway may be needed. Cases of that high volume at roundabouts are rare. In most cases however the car volume is low enough to create enough of a break for pedestrians to get through. In a high-volume of pedestrian area a signalized intersection is often preferable.
February 14Feb 14 4 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Any pedestrian who has to cross this road is far, far safer than they were before this project. Yeah, ok. It clears the bar of being safer than no sidewalks and no signal. I guess we agree there, but I think that other alternatives could have been better for pedestrians (of course we don't care about them, though).
February 14Feb 14 2 minutes ago, X said: Yeah, ok. It clears the bar of being safer than no sidewalks and no signal. I guess we agree there, but I think that other alternatives could have been better for pedestrians (of course we don't care about them, though). I care about the pedestrians and am glad they can now more safely cross this road. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 14Feb 14 17 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said: I care about the pedestrians and am glad they can now more safely cross this road. I guess something is better than nothing.
March 8Mar 8 ODOT Metro Cleveland highway ramp closures, and these are substantial: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BPd3LUUZF/?mibextid=wwXIfr 176 northbound to steelyard common / West 14 closed March 31 to November. 480 East to 77 North AND 480 West to 77 South closed April 28- September. Look at these detours (lol) When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
March 26Mar 26 🚨 ODOT's TRAC 2025-2028 is out and it's great news for Metro Cleveland Draft PDF here: https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/programs/trac/construction-program-lists/2025-2028 New article here: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/major-cleveland-akron-highway-projects-included-in-proposed-funding-from-state-committee.html TL;DR: Tier 1 (Construction Commitment) 2025 $7.2 mil - It appears as though the Harper Rd Diverging Diamond interchange is back online?! Last heard in 2024 it was dead. TRAC is providing commitments of 7.2 mil out of the estimated $10-11 mil budget for the project in 2025. Anyone (especially people living in/near Solon) hear any more updates about this? 2026 $201 mil - Cuyahoga Innerbelt Contract Group 3A "Central Interchange" and E 22nd St bridge and Cedar/Carnegie realignment. ODOT's largest-funded project in the next 4 years. $12 mil - W 25th MetroHealth BRT Tier 2 (Development Commitment) 2025/2026 $1.6 mil - I-271 / US-422 (Chagrin Rd) intersection improvements (redesign of the corridor of Chagrin Rd between Richmond Rd and I-271) $1.8 mil - Improvements along E 105th and E 93rd $1 mil - Conversion of I-480/Granger Rd interchange in Garfield Heights into a full interchange. Tier 3 (Development Commitment) 2026 $12 mil - I-90/SR-2 Cuyahoga Innerbelt Contract Group 4E "Innerbelt Curve" - commitments in the planning phase for removing "Dead Man's Curve and redoing the entire interchange. Not listed, but Cleveland and Akron projects combined account for more than a third of the entire state's funding! Edited March 26Mar 26 by Geowizical
March 26Mar 26 1 hour ago, Geowizical said: $7.2 mil - It appears as though the Harper Rd Diverging Diamond interchange is back online?! Last heard in 2024 it was dead. TRAC is providing commitments of 7.2 mil out of the estimated $10-11 mil budget for the project in 2025. Anyone (especially people living in/near Solon) hear any more updates about this? Solon council killed the previous proposal because the contingencies would have been Solon’s responsibility. But the infrastructure bill brought in new funding. Rep Max Miller claims responsibility for getting the Harper road diamond interchange funded via the infrastructure bill (which is annoying because he voted against that bill, but at least once the money was available he was helpful in earmarking it for this Solon project). When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
April 25Apr 25 CPC approved a few small sales of City land to ODOT for the Central Interchange project at todays meeting. The phase around this section is still looking at an April 2026 start time.
April 25Apr 25 On 3/26/2025 at 6:24 PM, Boomerang_Brian said: Solon council killed the previous proposal because the contingencies would have been Solon’s responsibility. But the infrastructure bill brought in new funding. Rep Max Miller claims responsibility for getting the Harper road diamond interchange funded via the infrastructure bill (which is annoying because he voted against that bill, but at least once the money was available he was helpful in earmarking it for this Solon project). That's a Congressman's job, to get their district a share once something is a done deal. They all do that.
April 25Apr 25 2 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said: CPC approved a few small sales of City land to ODOT for the Central Interchange project at todays meeting. The phase around this section is still looking at an April 2026 start time. I have never heard it called the Central Interchange up here before. The one in Akron, yes all the time.
April 25Apr 25 On 2/13/2025 at 2:30 PM, GCrites said: It's a question of making sure good pedestrian access is a part of the design and of volume. If a roundabout has cars moving across all parts of it at all times that's a really high volume junction and additional pedestrian infrastructure such as a bridge or pedestrian subway may be needed. Cases of that high volume at roundabouts are rare. In most cases however the car volume is low enough to create enough of a break for pedestrians to get through. In a high-volume of pedestrian area a signalized intersection is often preferable. The one at Richmond and Pettibone is that way during the entirety of rush hour, in fact it backs up badly the whole time. Those who designed and approved it should have to drive it forever in the infernal regions.
April 25Apr 25 On 2/12/2025 at 10:20 PM, X said: Keep that traffic flowing! Keep it moving! That's the real point of these convoluted messes. That and an excuse to pour more asphault. The biggest problem with them around here, even when not designed atrociously like Richmond and Pettibone, is that we tend to be assertive drivers to begin with and everyone has their own opinion on how to drive them. I happened to be in Lander Circle once (I forget why) and got sideswiped by a local. She lectured me the whole time about how I drove it wrong, until a cop showed up and cited her, but not me.
April 25Apr 25 On 3/26/2025 at 6:24 PM, Boomerang_Brian said: Solon council killed the previous proposal because the contingencies would have been Solon’s responsibility. But the infrastructure bill brought in new funding. Rep Max Miller claims responsibility for getting the Harper road diamond interchange funded via the infrastructure bill (which is annoying because he voted against that bill, but at least once the money was available he was helpful in earmarking it for this Solon project). 27 minutes ago, E Rocc said: That's a Congressman's job, to get their district a share once something is a done deal. They all do that. Yes, I am aware of how Congressional appropriations work. It is good that he tries to get funding for projects in his district. It is bad that he voted against the legislation that funds those projects and then brags about getting the funding. 23 minutes ago, E Rocc said: The one at Richmond and Pettibone is that way during the entirety of rush hour, in fact it backs up badly the whole time. Those who designed and approved it should have to drive it forever in the infernal regions. This roundabout is awesome no matter how many times you complain about it. I drive through it all the time and I wish more intersections were like this one. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
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