These look like a break dancing stick figure!

Or sex positions... for some people ?

Now your screenname makes sense...

On 3/20/2019 at 8:30 AM, KJP said:

I couldn't find the I love Cleveland thread so I'm putting this cool graphic here...

https://www.etsy.com/listing/614184168/intersections-of-cleveland?ref=shop_home_active_1&frs=1

 

The other 2/3s of the Ohio "Cs" get the same treatment.
Cincy

 

And C-bus

Edited March 23, 20196 yr by Magyar

Now that's what I call a graphic!

Those graphics are hilarious! And the sex positions thing...yeah that would apply cause I know some of those intersections are a real Cl##$$$ %%ck.

 

*The Harrisburg Pike, Central and Mound one for Cbus looks like pairs figure skating or dancing....how inappropriate for that filthy dangerous intersection.  

Edited March 23, 20196 yr by Toddguy

Nancy Kelsey posted: " Mayor Frank G. Jackson’s Office of Capital Projects introduced yesterday a series of legislative items to Cleveland City Council that would improve infrastructure around the city. The legislation proposes a number of projects from road work to facilities"

 

New post on Straight from City Hall

 

 

City of Cleveland Introduces Legislation to Fund More Than $53 Million in Infrastructure Projects [clecityhall.com]

by Nancy Kelsey

 

Mayor Frank G. Jackson’s Office of Capital Projects introduced yesterday a series of legislative items to Cleveland City Council that would improve infrastructure around the city. The legislation proposes a number of projects from road work to facilities improvements to professional services for construction and design. As a result of City funds and dollars leveraged from state and other sources, the amount invested in the project will total approximately $53 million.

Projects, if approved, would include:

·         Recreation centers: This would include repairs to the following neighborhood resource and recreation centers: Estabrook, Stella Walsh, Clark, Sterling, Lonnie Burton and Kovacic. It also includes repairs to several playgrounds, citywide courts, fields and playgrounds.

·         Public facilities: This would include repairs to City Hall’s roof, City Hall emergency repairs, West Side Market emergency repairs, Willard Garage improvements, Cleveland Public Hall upgrades, Ridge Road Transfer Station, Cleveland Division of Police stables, Cleveland Fire Station #26 improvements and more. The estimated cost for these repairs is $11.3 million.

·         Miles Avenue: The City of Cleveland will share in the cost of making repairs and resurfacing Miles Avenue with the Ohio Department of Transportation (ODOT). A 3.6-mile stretch of Miles Avenue would be resurfaced from Broadway Avenue to the Warrensville city line. It is estimated construction would begin April 2020.

·         Center Street Bridge: Improvements of the Center Street Bridge, which was constructed in 1901 to provide access over the Cuyahoga River. The project would include repairing structural steel, painting the bridge, improving pedestrian access, repairing the operator house and making mechanical and electrical repairs.

·         West 65th Street: Resurfacing a 1.90-mile stretch of West 65th Street from Denison Avenue to Herman Avenue. Includes replacement of curbs, installation of ADA compliant ramps, traffic signals, bike lanes and more.

·         East 105th Street: Rehabilitation of a 1-mile section of East 105th Street from Greenlawn to the northern city limits. Improvements in addition to resurfacing would include replacement of curbs, installation of ADA compliant ramps, traffic signals, bike lanes and more.

·         East 116th Street: Upgrade traffic signal at the south leg of East 116th Street and Harvard Avenue and interconnect it with the Cleveland Commercial Railroad crossing across East 116th Street, just north of the intersection at Harvard Avenue. This is a safety upgrade stopping traffic on Harvard when the rail gates are triggered by an approaching train to East 116th Street.

·         Professional services: This legislation would authorize the City to enter into contracts for professional services with two vendors for construction and design projects for roads, bridges and City facilities.

In addition to these projects, the City of Cleveland continues to resurface residential roads and bridges around the city. Click here to view and bookmark our blog page [clecityhall.com] with a continuously updated 2019 list of residential streets slated for resurfacing.

 

Nancy Kelsey [clecityhall.com] | May 14, 2019 at 4:10 pm | Categories: Capital Projects [clecityhall.com] | URL: https://wp.me/p3ipG9-3Or [wp.me]

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Hey Cleveland, buy this!!

 

 

13 hours ago, KJP said:

Hey Cleveland, buy this!!

 

 

 

I'd give it about a month before it broke down from overuse, then the city mechanics would have to negotiate a new contract just to get them to look at the thing!  

I'm a little surprised they are totally replacing deck on the far right east bound lane of Detroit, Superior bridge. The one that was turned into a bike only lane somewhat recently. Not complaining, it just seemed like it wasn't in that bad of shape and since heavy vehicles vacated it was holding up well compared to the other traffic lanes. Seemed like a good opportunity to tout an x million dollars saving due to being a bike lane. Maybe there were underlying issues with it. 

15 hours ago, viscomi said:

I'm a little surprised they are totally replacing deck on the far right east bound lane of Detroit, Superior bridge. The one that was turned into a bike only lane somewhat recently. Not complaining, it just seemed like it wasn't in that bad of shape and since heavy vehicles vacated it was holding up well compared to the other traffic lanes. Seemed like a good opportunity to tout an x million dollars saving due to being a bike lane. Maybe there were underlying issues with it. 

 

My guess is that since the DS bridge carries multiple federal/state routes, the funding was an all-or-nothing proposition.   
 

Now if we could just get the 17 axle dump trucks off the bridge and Huron, maybe they will last more than 4 years....

No news, just proof our roads are about 3 lanes too wide. 445pm Friday aka rush hour 

^We just signed off on low-rise development---townhouses on Superior around this photo--at E15--with no retail component. We should leverage the asset of main roads rather than treat them like small numbered streets in the neighborhoods; in other words don't allow such development on main thoroughfares. the city even did this on Euclid in Hough of all places. So don't blame the roads for being too big---its the lack of uses along them that limit their use and city hall allows such uses.

^^ I recently saw a road diet planned for this stretch. It looked pretty good. 

22 minutes ago, Pugu said:

^We just signed off on low-rise development---townhouses on Superior around this photo--at E15--with no retail component. We should leverage the asset of main roads rather than treat them like small numbered streets in the neighborhoods; in other words don't allow such development on main thoroughfares. the city even did this on Euclid in Hough of all places. So don't blame the roads for being too big---its the lack of uses along them that limit their use and city hall allows such uses.

Good points! It was kind of a nudge on my end for some protected bike lanes or something (i dont see the midway happening anytime soon), so many roads downtown are like this- even ones with huge buildings amd residents. The more traffic calming/road diets/BRT/streetcars the better

Yeah, don't "sign off" on low rise development.  We could have a dirt parking lot there still.  That'll get Superior Ave nice and busy.

The reason Cleveland has these wide roads was the time it came of age.  They were laid out for street car tracks.  

On 9/21/2019 at 12:48 AM, Cleburger said:

The reason Cleveland has these wide roads was the time it came of age.  They were laid out for street car tracks.  

 

Downtown Cleveland's main streets? They were inspired by something much older and farther....the Hapsburg vision of European urban design with the wide boulevards, etc.

Hapsburg? Or Haussmann?

1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

Downtown Cleveland's main streets? They were inspired by something much older and farther....the Hapsburg vision of European urban design with the wide boulevards, etc.

 

People often seem to forget that Cleveland's downtown streets were platted in the 1790s--- well before streetcars existed.

Is anyone annoyed by the bottleneck on I-480 westbound at I-71?  I-480 westbound is reduced from 4 lanes to 2 lanes at that location, which often results in traffic backups during the evening rush hour.  The problem is compounded by motorists from I-71 northbound merging onto I-480 westbound.  They find themselves in an "exit only" lane for the airport and have a short distance to switch to a thru lane if they are not going to the airport.  Maybe someday ODOT can add another lane to that section of I-480.  

Edited November 7, 20195 yr by skiwest
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1 hour ago, skiwest said:

Is anyone annoyed by the bottleneck on I-480 westbound at I-71?  I-480 westbound is reduced from 4 lanes to 2 lanes at that location, which often results in traffic backups during the evening rush hour.  The problem is compounded by motorists from I-71 northbound merging onto I-480 westbound.  They find themselves in an "exit only" lane for the airport and have a short distance to switch to a thru lane if they are not going to the airport.  Maybe someday ODOT can add another lane to that section of I-480.  

More lanes don't necessarily alleviate traffic problems, and frankly we've spent enough money expanding the road networks to account for folks moving further and further away from the core. PS- Traffic is nothing compared to most cities, yet we act like it's a major problem here when your commute goes from 30 minutes to 45.

 

I'm sorry (maybe it's because I'm not caffenated enough right now), but we need more money for public transit, regional trains, and bike/ped infrastructure, not more and more lanes to a problem that barely exists. 

Gas Tax Hike Allows ODOT To Green Light Nearly $400 Million In Road Projects

https://www.statenews.org/post/gas-tax-hike-allows-odot-green-light-nearly-400-million-road-projects

• 20 of 27 projects ($398 of $934 million awarded) which applied for Transportation Review Advisory Council (TRAC)
• TRAC Tier 1 NEO / Metro CLE projects awarded (ODOT Districts 3, 4 & 12)
  •  I-77 widening / interchange in Summit County 
  • State Route 18 widening east of Medina
  • (some) I-90 / Inner-belt funding

Final 2020 - 2023 Major New Construction Program List: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/trac/TRAC List/FINAL_20_23_MN_CONSTRUCTION_PROGRAM_LIST.pdf

 

The 27 2019 TRAC Applications: http://www.dot.state.oh.us/trac/Pages/TRAC-Application.aspx?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

 

2 hours ago, skiwest said:

The problem is compounded by motorists from I-71 northbound merging onto I-480 westbound.  They find themselves in an "exit only" lane for the airport and have a short distance to switch to a thru lane if they are not going to the airport.  Maybe someday ODOT can add another lane to that section of I-480.  

 

Seems like more of a lane-striping problem than a sufficient-number-of-lanes problem.

An additional troubling roadway expansion on the horizon: 

 

Ohio approves $1.1 billion for road construction

https://www.cantonrep.com/news/20191106/ohio-approves-11-billion-for-road-construction

 

"$6 million for preliminary engineering on expanding the last four-lane stretch of I-77 between Cleveland and Canton to six lanes — between Ghent Road to the Ohio Turnpike in northern Summit County."

 

A widening of I-77 in this section (which would make it 6 lanes from downtown Cleveland to downtown Canton) is projected to cost $120 million. 

 

Edited November 7, 20195 yr by NorthShore647

Good thing we won't be spending anything to maintain our crumbling existing infrastructure!

17 hours ago, NorthShore647 said:

An additional troubling roadway expansion on the horizon: 

 

Ohio approves $1.1 billion for road construction

https://www.cantonrep.com/news/20191106/ohio-approves-11-billion-for-road-construction

 

"$6 million for preliminary engineering on expanding the last four-lane stretch of I-77 between Cleveland and Canton to six lanes — between Ghent Road to the Ohio Turnpike in northern Summit County."

 

A widening of I-77 in this section (which would make it 6 lanes from downtown Cleveland to downtown Canton) is projected to cost $120 million. 

 

19 hours ago, GISguy said:

More lanes don't necessarily alleviate traffic problems 

Perhaps, but in this case, adding one lane for a small section of I-480 would alleviate a traffic problem.  Motorists entering I-480 WB from I-71 NB would be able to stay in the current lane instead of having to quickly merge to the left.   

18 hours ago, Foraker said:

 

Seems like more of a lane-striping problem than a sufficient-number-of-lanes problem.

No, it's not a striping problem.  It's the short distance between the I-71 entrance ramp and the airport exit ramp.

 

32 minutes ago, skiwest said:

No, it's not a striping problem.  It's the short distance between the I-71 entrance ramp and the airport exit ramp.

 

 

I don't know about that.  If you add a lane so that the lane from I-71 to I-480 can be a dedicated lane with an exit lane emerging to its right, you have to add a highway lane that you now have to maintain (increased roadway maintenance cost). That also means the I-480 driver has to cross two lanes to get to the exit, but the merging I-71-to-I-480 driver can just stay in their lane. 

 

Moreover, that same cross-two-lanes to get-to-the-exit-lane exists if you restripe so that I-480 loses a lane before I-71 and then the merging I-71-to-I-480 driver can just stay in their lane -- but without the added lane maintenance cost.  And you could do it over a weekend.

 

Adding lanes to the highway is expensive and shouldn't be done lightly.

1 hour ago, skiwest said:

Perhaps, but in this case, adding one lane for a small section of I-480 would alleviate a traffic problem.  Motorists entering I-480 WB from I-71 NB would be able to stay in the current lane instead of having to quickly merge to the left.   

 

Adding lanes rarely works, in fact it often has the opposite affect. Increasing access to public transit does alleviate traffic, but I doubt you want to hear that. 

 

 

Edited November 8, 20195 yr by Clefan98

1 hour ago, skiwest said:

Perhaps, but in this case, adding one lane for a small section of I-480 would alleviate a traffic problem.  Motorists entering I-480 WB from I-71 NB would be able to stay in the current lane instead of having to quickly merge to the left.   

This seems to have been a curious design mistake from day one.  I cannot tell you how many times during rush hour I would be flying down 1-480 westbound with no problem and then hit that point and it was a cluster f#@k and then once you passed it smooth sailing again.

The rail yard just to the north most likely resulted in the less than optimal design.

This is the situation every evening

And there is no direct access at this interchange from 480 W bound to 71 N bound. Poorly designed to say the least.

1 hour ago, Florida Guy said:

And there is no direct access at this interchange from 480 W bound to 71 N bound. Poorly designed to say the least.

The idea behind not doing that interchange, besides the spatial and land costs, is that 176 to the east provides a much more direct route into downtown form those that are not served here, basically Parma and Parma Heights.  

No more money for highway widening until RTA gets adequate funding. It's harsh, but why should I subsidize folks that willingly chose to move further and further way from the city center (ie Medina, North Ridgeville, etc.). Lobby for busses, or better park and ride services, instead of acquiescing to single occupancy vehicle folks. I really don't care that your commute is terrible, I'm more concerned about living off a 'BRT line' in the city/county that is absolutely atrocious in timing.

 

Then again we live in Ohio where transit goes to die. 

1 hour ago, GISguy said:

No more money for highway widening until RTA gets adequate funding. It's harsh, but why should I subsidize folks that willingly chose to move further and further way from the city center (ie Medina, North Ridgeville, etc.). Lobby for busses, or better park and ride services, instead of acquiescing to single occupancy vehicle folks. I really don't care that your commute is terrible, I'm more concerned about living off a 'BRT line' in the city/county that is absolutely atrocious in timing.

 

Then again we live in Ohio where transit goes to die. 

 

Come and complain about it with me this evening:

 

On 11/8/2019 at 2:38 PM, skiwest said:

The rail yard just to the north most likely resulted in the less than optimal design.

 

I think you mean that the highway was built too close to the rail line. But ODOT didn't want to build I-480 a little farther south or some of its right of way might have ended up across Brookpark Road and in a city other than Cleveland. Some of you may not remember that the City of Cleveland sued ODOT and won because, when ODOT design I-480, it purposefully routed I-480 in Cleveland and not in Parma or Brook Park because the smaller cities would have had a harder time coming up with the local funding match for the construction.

I hope it doesn't look too ugly when it is finished.   I assume each direction will be 4 lanes on the old bridge, a wall, and then 2 more lanes on the new bridge?   

^ That should have been worked out to be a cloverleaf design...not all people traveling through there are familiar with 176...just poorly thought out by ODOT...as usual.  Dead Man's curve, using wide swaths of land for every exit and entrance ramp, not capping off highways that run through a city center, despising public transportation...the list goes on and on.

 

Posted in error.

Edited November 18, 20195 yr by Florida Guy

Hell, make it 12 lanes...you'll still have slow moving texters in the left lane not knowing why they are getting the finger...

Please let me know I'm not the only one who gets a bit irritated when I see this... is it just me or does seeing spray paint on the roads bother anyone else?  This stuff takes a looooong time to come up on its own.

 

Brand new road-graffiti up and down E. 6th between Lakeside and St. Clair today:

 

 

Edited November 22, 20195 yr by Oldmanladyluck

It doesn't look good, but I guess we should be happy they are not snow covered roads.  ?️

It also happens to sidewalks, utility poles, etc. It's as ugly as the worst illegal graffiti.

Some of my earliest downtown memories are from Christmas expeditions.   I don't remember specifics from the stores, but I have very vivid memories of steam pouring out of manhole covers, painted markings, jackhammers and Salvation Army bells. 

These marks don't bother me at all.  It's part of an American urban existence, where crumbling infrastructure is constantly under repair.  

On 11/22/2019 at 1:17 PM, Oldmanladyluck said:

Please let me know I'm not the only one who gets a bit irritated when I see this... is it just me or does seeing spray paint on the roads bother anyone else?  This stuff takes a looooong time to come up on its own.

 

Brand new road-graffiti up and down E. 6th between Lakeside and St. Clair today:

 

 

 

Is this graffiti or public works markings?

They’re utility markings. I do think they’re ugly in general. Usually when you see them it signifies upcoming construction.

Reconstruction of E 105th from Wade Park to Bratenal should start this month. It will be done in phases, the first should last a year and cover about 1.5 miles.  This is much needed, every time I am on that stretch I can't wait to get off. But with all the new and coming development in that area it is going to make a huge difference. Unfortunately the burying of utility lines gets the axe again. Must be crazy expensive. This might be part of the OC project though I am not sure.

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/01/road-construction-project-on-east-side-artery-to-begin-tuesday-will-disrupt-traffic-for-a-year.html