Posted June 13, 200817 yr Can someone tell me where Crosley Field used to be? My uncle asked me the other day but i had no idea. It would be pretty cool if someone had some old pics to show. :wink:
June 13, 200817 yr GABP should have had more of this vibe. . . I agree ... I love old-school ballparks. This is why I like the new Busch and PNC over GABP, Jacob's, Turner, Minute Maid, etc ...
June 14, 200817 yr Here's Crosley Field in April 1962...nearly everything surrounding the park had been bought by the Reds and demolished for parking and the path for I-75 has been cleared and...was being used for parking: Fittingly, the stadium was used as a used car lot for a year or two before itself being demolished.
June 14, 200817 yr GABP should have had more of this vibe. . . I agree ... I love old-school ballparks. This is why I like the new Busch and PNC over GABP, Jacob's, Turner, Minute Maid, etc ... well sport's illustrated isn't buying into your anti-ne ohio bias....whoops, i mean opinion. :wink: cross-categorically cleveland's "throwback" is the number one ranked ballpark in baseball (the marlins ranked last): http://ballparkd.com/post/33386000/sports-illustrated-best-and-worst-ballparks
June 14, 200817 yr GABP should have had more of this vibe. . . I agree ... I love old-school ballparks. This is why I like the new Busch and PNC over GABP, Jacob's, Turner, Minute Maid, etc ... well sport's illustrated isn't buying into your anti-ne ohio bias....whoops, i mean opinion. :wink: cross-categorically cleveland's "throwback" is the number one ranked ballpark in baseball (the marlins ranked last): http://ballparkd.com/post/33386000/sports-illustrated-best-and-worst-ballparks Anti-NEOH?! Along with Cleve, I listed Cincinnati, ATL, and Houston. Care to retract that statement now ... ... and I don't give a damn what that list says, hell, Cincinnati was just rated as the 3rd most sexually active city in the US ... yeah, supposedly everyone is bangin each other here ... uh ... wtf? lol.
June 14, 200817 yr Awesome pics! Its too bad the stadium couldn't have been renovated to keep with the times. I dont guess 75 would have been much fun to look at while attending the game though. Is there anything left of the stadium at all?
June 14, 200817 yr Nothing. There is a small garden where home plate used to be. It had an outfield hill, which would no longer be acceptable.
June 14, 200817 yr ^---- "It had an outfield hill, which would no longer be acceptable." But it would be the only outfield hill in the major leagues. How cool would that be?
June 14, 200817 yr Anti-NEOH?! Along with Cleve, I listed Cincinnati, ATL, and Houston Busch is the best retro park, period (though Baltimore is also top-notch). I'll take Busch over GABP, and even Jacobs (sorry, Progressive Trash Name Field). Busch is just incredible. It's now my favorite park in America. This is one instance where I agree with you. I'll take this in spades over GABP or Jacobs. As far as I'm concerned, there is no competition. This IS retro: I'm there with you 100%! The new Busch is spectacular, perfect really... As a huge fan of the sport in general, I am so damn jealous! They did a great job with modern/throw-back in everyway possible. All of those parks that I posted above make our parks look like white steel trusses sticking out of bland concrete molds that you can pick out of book. "Yes, we'd like to build a new MLB ballpark" "Okay ... we have model A, B, C, and D" "Mmmm ... tough decision ... I think we'll go with "C"." "Good choice! ... I think you'll like it, it worked out great with these other 10 cities."
June 14, 200817 yr Btw C-Dawg, I like Camden Yards too ... If I were to change anything, after seeing it in person ... I'd bring the wall down just a little. It's just a little too tall.
June 14, 200817 yr ^---- "It had an outfield hill, which would no longer be acceptable." But it would be the only outfield hill in the major leagues. How cool would that be? I believe arizona's field has an outfield hill.
June 16, 200816 yr That area of town really needs a facelift. It's a shame that it'll have to be 10 years down the road, whenever the THIRD phase of the streetcar line is built.
June 19, 200816 yr Anti-NEOH?! Along with Cleve, I listed Cincinnati, ATL, and Houston Busch is the best retro park, period (though Baltimore is also top-notch). I'll take Busch over GABP, and even Jacobs (sorry, Progressive Trash Name Field). Busch is just incredible. It's now my favorite park in America. This is one instance where I agree with you. I'll take this in spades over GABP or Jacobs. As far as I'm concerned, there is no competition. This IS retro: I'm there with you 100%! The new Busch is spectacular, perfect really... As a huge fan of the sport in general, I am so damn jealous! They did a great job with modern/throw-back in everyway possible. All of those parks that I posted above make our parks look like white steel trusses sticking out of bland concrete molds that you can pick out of book. "Yes, we'd like to build a new MLB ballpark" "Okay ... we have model A, B, C, and D" "Mmmm ... tough decision ... I think we'll go with "C"." "Good choice! ... I think you'll like it, it worked out great with these other 10 cities." no, you're rewriting retro ballpark history with that. cleveland's was the second throwback built and yet is currently rated the best ballpark in baseball. so i don't get you. as for cinci being rated number three (?) in sexually transmitted diseases or whatever -- well ok yay for third place! anyway, the more the newer ones look like old ballparks the phonier they become. sure they are nice too, but are getting to be like a lifestyle mall's approximation of main street, usa. the overall experience is the point, not just what they look like. anyway hang on, if you & c-dawg are loving the busch style so much then you are going to looooovvvee the new ny stadiums next year (count me as not a big fan of these retro-retro parks).
June 19, 200816 yr ^Plus, the Yankees announced yesterday that there will be a Hard Rock Cafe in their new stadium! Talk about lifestyle center crap. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080618&content_id=2958377&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb&partnerId=rss_mlb I actually really like Jacobs field because it is unabashedly modern, though without the boring symmetry and blandness of the 1960s concrete dough nuts. The light towers are just so, so awesome, as is the entry into the stadium via the left field home run porch. The faux brick facade craze set off by Camden is a little much IMHO. The Rangers stadium has got to be worst- a pile of crappy brick nostalgia without any of the history or context to support it.
June 19, 200816 yr what? ooooh a hard rock! so they are even throwbacking to the 90's in the new throwback? well that about cinches it. ps -- stay tuned -- i'm working on a thread of willets point, shea, citifield & the endangered iron triangle. whoops sorry back to crosley. my in-laws liked it, but say it had terrible seats.
June 20, 200816 yr Anti-NEOH?! Along with Cleve, I listed Cincinnati, ATL, and Houston Busch is the best retro park, period (though Baltimore is also top-notch). I'll take Busch over GABP, and even Jacobs (sorry, Progressive Trash Name Field). Busch is just incredible. It's now my favorite park in America. This is one instance where I agree with you. I'll take this in spades over GABP or Jacobs. As far as I'm concerned, there is no competition. This IS retro: I'm there with you 100%! The new Busch is spectacular, perfect really... As a huge fan of the sport in general, I am so damn jealous! They did a great job with modern/throw-back in everyway possible. All of those parks that I posted above make our parks look like white steel trusses sticking out of bland concrete molds that you can pick out of book. "Yes, we'd like to build a new MLB ballpark" "Okay ... we have model A, B, C, and D" "Mmmm ... tough decision ... I think we'll go with "C"." "Good choice! ... I think you'll like it, it worked out great with these other 10 cities." no, you're rewriting retro ballpark history with that. cleveland's was the second throwback built and yet is currently rated the best ballpark in baseball. so i don't get you. as for cinci being rated number three (?) in sexually transmitted diseases or whatever -- well ok yay for third place! anyway, the more the newer ones look like old ballparks the phonier they become. sure they are nice too, but are getting to be like a lifestyle mall's approximation of main street, usa. the overall experience is the point, not just what they look like. anyway hang on, if you & c-dawg are loving the busch style so much then you are going to looooovvvee the new ny stadiums next year (count me as not a big fan of these retro-retro parks). I have asked before and I will ask again, what is so great about Jacobs Field? I've been to a few games there and it just seemed like a very, very average stadium. I think it and GABP are about equal ballparks, and once The Banks gets completed, GABP will be better.
June 20, 200816 yr ^ america be damned, sounds like you are ready to email sports illustrated and defend your stadium!
June 20, 200816 yr New Busch is nice for the faux brick and black steel but it isn't really surrounded by a neighborhood. Mostly parking garages and office buildings on 3 sides and an interstate on the other. It also lacks many of the nice touches of GABP like the mosaics and museum (the Cards museum is weak). They also have a hole next to the stadium waiting to create a mixed use neighborhood just like us but smaller. I'm not saying they don't do a alot well in that stadium, but it isn't perfect. Oh and the hill is in Houston, along with a flag pole in play.
June 20, 200816 yr I have asked before and I will ask again, what is so great about Jacobs Field? I've been to a few games there and it just seemed like a very, very average stadium. I think it and GABP are about equal ballparks, and once The Banks gets completed, GABP will be better. I can't pretend to be objective- too many happy memories from the mid and late '90s in the Jake, but I like and appreciate Jacobs Field for lots of reasons. First, the siting is fantastic- great framed views, great integration with the street network and the Q. Awesome public art in the immediate area. The whole Gateway plan was really top notch. I also love the architecture of the place- no sappy stapled on brick facades unlike most of the other new parks. The white painted steel construction and buff stone and brick are evocative of the bridge trusses and industry just down the hill in the Flats. I think some of the really recent ones now have them too, but the "toothbrush" light towers gave it a signature silhouette that made it instantly recognizable. The biggest thing I don't like is the triple tier of luxery boxes behind home plate and along the third base line which push the upper deck waaaaay up high and hit you over the head with the economics of recent baseball stadium finance. I haven't been to that many other new ball parks, so this isn't really meant to say the Jake is better than others (except for the cheesy facade issue), but I really do like it a lot.
June 20, 200816 yr I haven't been to a game in either of the new stadiums in Cincinnati since they opened since I am opposed to how they were funded. I am especially frustrated by these facilities not being used often for other uses such as concerts. Considering how rarely Riverfront Stadium was used for concerts (two Rolling Stones, one New Kids on the Block and that's it in 30 years aside from the Jazz Festival) the absurdity of building two stadiums is all the more obvious. Crosley Field, in its highest (literally) and greatest moment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_XCECbAEU
June 22, 200816 yr sorry, the new met's citifield may be nice, but its also dullsville. at least so far on the outside. old shea and the iron triangle car repair shacks across the street are more interesting architecturally and otherwise. it's like looking at a corny norman rockwell print vs. some wacky outsider art.
June 25, 200816 yr I also had much more appreciation for GABP's coziness after visit New Busch which seems cavernous by comparison and only seats ~5k more.
June 25, 200816 yr I haven't been to a game in either of the new stadiums in Cincinnati since they opened since I am opposed to how they were funded. I am especially frustrated by these facilities not being used often for other uses such as concerts. Considering how rarely Riverfront Stadium was used for concerts (two Rolling Stones, one New Kids on the Block and that's it in 30 years aside from the Jazz Festival) the absurdity of building two stadiums is all the more obvious. I can remember other events...you missed N'SYNC in Cinergy for one. Billy Graham in PBS. GABP has hosted Matt Maupin, GW, etc. http://www.cincinnati.com/reds/goodbyecinergy/entertainment.html
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