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Imagine if we had block after block of an East 4th like environment. Pedestrian only, narrow brick paved streets, mixed used buildings, with the additional aesthetic improvements. Maybe they could do something like that on that massive lot on prospect as an extension of East 4th.

 

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  • To redirect from the SHW HQ thread, here's a few photos on the busy downtown scene on a hot June Wednesday evening....      

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Downtown, all over, has been very impressive weekend evenings.  Out front of the Tower City entrance on Public Square, the sidewalks are buzzing with activity late into the night-- and it's sooo much better with the added lighting, for security/safety, the new paving, planters and the like.  As recently as 2 years ago, the TC enterance was dark and foreboding.  People hustled through to get to trains or their cars, but now folks linger and people watch...  There's no doubt, the casino has brought more people downtown, although downtown was trending positive in the recent years before it opened.  Most weekend nights there's an electric atmosphere downtown even when there's no sports event.

 

Last night, Ohio City was buzzing too with (I believe) the Great Lakes Brewing Co. anniversary festival/concert on Market Sq (somebody will correct me if I'm wrong)... We hopped a Red Line Rapid that was pretty full (lots of students who appeared to come from Case.  Like downtown -- maybe even more so -- the sidewalks were thick with peds... All the bars and restaurants were packed to the gills, esp. Market Garden.  Anyone from any city would have to have been impressed with our city.

 

Imagine if we had block after block of an East 4th like environment. Pedestrian only, narrow brick paved streets, mixed used buildings, with the additional aesthetic improvements. Maybe they could do something like that on that massive lot on prospect as an extension of East 4th.

 

My experience in San Fran was like that.

 

I've got my eye on a certain alleyway downtown. I think it has potential! We can pool our money.

^^Awesome to hear

Imagine if we had block after block of an East 4th like environment. Pedestrian only, narrow brick paved streets, mixed used buildings, with the additional aesthetic improvements. Maybe they could do something like that on that massive lot on prospect as an extension of East 4th.

 

It's called Europe. The only two cities that give me the same feeling as European cities are Boston and Newport, RI. Not surprising since they are two of our oldest cities.

 

I've got my eye on a certain alleyway downtown. I think it has potential! We can pool our money.

 

Which one? East 6th north of Euclid? Or maybe what I was proposing for Walnut between 9th and 12th?

 

I should also have shared by brief encounter with a Chicagoan on Thursday. At the end of work, I came out of the City Club Building and looked for whichever westbound bus on Euclid came first -- the E-Line Trolley or the HealthLine. The winner was the E-Line. It was packed to the doors. I squeezed into the front door and stood next to a guy who was asking the driver where to get off for the Casino. The driver told him East 2nd, but I added "Just follow me." The passenger said he just arrived from Chicago on Megabus and was surprised to see so many people downtown. I asked him if he was expecting a smaller version of Detroit. "Actually, yes" he said.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Now how do experiences like that as well as what Cleveland really has to offer get marketed to the rest of the nation, the rest of the World that do think we're nothing but a smaller Detroit? Marketing this town has to get better!

We should start with the rest of NE Ohio first!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

regarding the mural -- thats excellent, not to mention gary dumm is well known in the comicbook art world.

 

i always wished cleveland had a lot more murals around town and never understood why it didn't. not like to the extent of philly or anything, but would be nice to see a lot more of them all over.

 

regarding the mural -- thats excellent, not to mention gary dumm is well known in the comicbook art world.

 

i always wished cleveland had a lot more murals around town and never understood why it didn't. not like to the extent of philly or anything, but would be nice to see a lot more of them all over.

 

 

Yes! Cleveland needs more of anything that's colorful downtown. The sooner the better. Even commercial advertisements add a whole lot of vibrancy when done well. We're not a bland city, we just look that way lol.

 

p.s. will give specs on the alley asap.

regarding the mural -- thats excellent, not to mention gary dumm is well known in the comicbook art world.

 

i always wished cleveland had a lot more murals around town and never understood why it didn't. not like to the extent of philly or anything, but would be nice to see a lot more of them all over.

 

 

My guess (and it's just a guess) is that the presence of LAND Studio, might be part of the reason for this. Philly (and some other public art peers, like Pittsburgh's Sprout Fund) are very focused on murals as the powerhouse of their public art strategy. The City of Cleveland does have their Mural My Neighborhood program (http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/CityofCleveland/Home/Government/CityAgencies/ParksRecreationandProperties/Cultural%20Arts/MuralMyNeighborhood), but as a division of Public Works, I don't think they've ever received the type of financial support that efforts in Philly have received. Instead, the autonomous LAND Studio is the better funded alternative for public art delivery in the city, and their strategy is less mural-intensive ... Murals tend to be supporting players in larger community projects (gathering space, walking trail, etc.), rather than stand-alone projects all over the city. Personally, I like LAND's strategy better than concentrating solely or mostly on murals.

 

That being said, I think we are seeing mural art really popping up in places like Ohio City and St. Clair Superior. I'd wager a guess that Collinwood, particularly in the Waterloo Arts & Entertainment District, is probably closest to hitting a "critical mass" of murals. With the launch of Zoetic Walls (https://www.facebook.com/ZoeticWallsCleveland) by Waterloo Arts, the district's mural collection has exploded from 3 to 14 (and I think 3-5 more slated before the year ends), with many pieces done by top-tier street artists from around the country/globe. Heart Cleve :)

http://obits.cleveland.com/obituaries/cleveland/obituary.aspx?pid=166924600

 

I didn't want to start a new thread and couldn't think of anywhere better to put this considering Marty might have been the best known and most liked tiny coffee shop operator in the entire City.  His was the one in the basement of the Old County Courthouse on Lakeside.  As many years as I've known him, I didn't know half of the accomplishments listed in his obit.  RIP, Marty.  A true Clevelander.

regarding the mural -- thats excellent, not to mention gary dumm is well known in the comicbook art world.

 

i always wished cleveland had a lot more murals around town and never understood why it didn't. not like to the extent of philly or anything, but would be nice to see a lot more of them all over.

 

 

My guess (and it's just a guess) is that the presence of LAND Studio, might be part of the reason for this. Philly (and some other public art peers, like Pittsburgh's Sprout Fund) are very focused on murals as the powerhouse of their public art strategy. The City of Cleveland does have their Mural My Neighborhood program (http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/CityofCleveland/Home/Government/CityAgencies/ParksRecreationandProperties/Cultural%20Arts/MuralMyNeighborhood), but as a division of Public Works, I don't think they've ever received the type of financial support that efforts in Philly have received. Instead, the autonomous LAND Studio is the better funded alternative for public art delivery in the city, and their strategy is less mural-intensive ... Murals tend to be supporting players in larger community projects (gathering space, walking trail, etc.), rather than stand-alone projects all over the city. Personally, I like LAND's strategy better than concentrating solely or mostly on murals.

 

That being said, I think we are seeing mural art really popping up in places like Ohio City and St. Clair Superior. I'd wager a guess that Collinwood, particularly in the Waterloo Arts & Entertainment District, is probably closest to hitting a "critical mass" of murals. With the launch of Zoetic Walls (https://www.facebook.com/ZoeticWallsCleveland) by Waterloo Arts, the district's mural collection has exploded from 3 to 14 (and I think 3-5 more slated before the year ends), with many pieces done by top-tier street artists from around the country/globe. Heart Cleve :)

 

 

interesting and i agree with you that i like a broader focus than just murals. i would just add that others can do murals too, of course, like art students, schools or community boys and girls clubs and the like. even individuals, if the property owner agrees.

 

as you are most knowledgable on this topic, i would request that you start a thread about cleveland city murals and perhaps striking commercial advertising, too. seems like there is enough of it? even if you don't have a lot of photos and information, or have time to take photos of everything, the rest of us could always add to it!! whaddaya say?!  :clap:

 

 

 

Visiting Cleveland, on Purpose

 

Cleveland

 

In a 2008 episode of '30 Rock,' Liz Lemon (played by Tina Fey) faced a big decision at an airport security check: Keep a still-hot sandwich or dump it fly to Cleveland for love. Lemon’s choice is obvious. Poor Cleveland didn't stand a chance.

 

 

http://www.mensjournal.com/travel/cities/visiting-cleveland-on-purpose-20130911?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=1753782

That's one of the best "Visit Cleveland" articles I've ever seen ... Not just in its attention to detail, but in its exploration of gems beyond Downtown and University Circle. When was the last time an out-of-town publication mentioned Asiatown, Slavic Village or North Collinwood, when it wasn't about the foreclosure crisis :)

Justin Glanville gets a shoutout!  Awesome

Except for the photo of Happy Dog.

Except for the photo of Happy Dog.

 

And the idiotic comment by the Noodlecat hater.

Is anyone else tired of national acts skipping over Cleveland? If they do come to Northeast Ohio, they go to Akron, which I understand because of the colleges but still! I shouldnt have to go to akron to see a show!

^ thats a rough one. there are a lot of reasons for it, ie., the drop in pop, changes in the music biz, etc., but it has slowly gotten to be more glaring over time unfortunately.

 

here is something fun that has never changed - fall clambake season around the cle area!

 

 

Cleveland and clambakes, a relationship in high season now

 

By Debbi Snook, The Plain Dealer

on September 24, 2013 at 6:58 PM, updated September 24, 2013 at 9:39 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When Moses Cleaveland and his band of Connecticut surveyors showed up here in 1796 to pound the first white man’s stakes into the Western Reserve, not one of them had a little neck clam in his knapsack. Not a living one, anyway.

 

But you can bet these neighbors of the big clamming state of Rhode Island still hankered for a clambake – that traditional, stacked, steam-cooked tower of chicken, corn, potato and briny ocean bivalve.

 

A New England legacy is one reason Northeast Ohio has an unusually active clambake season, which is peaking during the next few weeks. Another is transportation, which has evolved to help this culinary tradition build a life of its own here. In season, thousands of clambake meals are being assembled daily here as summer gives way

 

“Right now, I’d bet the amount of clams coming into Cleveland could fill a semi-trailer every day,” said Sean Sullivan, chief operating officer for food distributor EuroUSA.

 

“In the Northeastern part of the country, people do clambakes all summer long,” Sullivan added. “Then the demand drops off. Buffalo is a huge clambake town, but it’s a summer thing.

 

“In September and October, there are more clams shipped to Cleveland than any other city in the country.”

 

Sullivan’s view is not just anecdotal, but built through a career as a seafood specialist here.

 

more:

http://www.cleveland.com/taste/index.ssf/2013/09/cleveland_and_clambakes_a_rela.html

 

 

^ thats a rough one. there are a lot of reasons for it, ie., the drop in pop, changes in the music biz, etc., but it has slowly gotten to be more glaring over time unfortunately.

 

here is something fun that has never changed - fall clambake season around the cle area!

 

 

Cleveland and clambakes, a relationship in high season now

 

By Debbi Snook, The Plain Dealer

on September 24, 2013 at 6:58 PM, updated September 24, 2013 at 9:39 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- When Moses Cleaveland and his band of Connecticut surveyors showed up here in 1796 to pound the first white man’s stakes into the Western Reserve, not one of them had a little neck clam in his knapsack. Not a living one, anyway.

 

But you can bet these neighbors of the big clamming state of Rhode Island still hankered for a clambake – that traditional, stacked, steam-cooked tower of chicken, corn, potato and briny ocean bivalve.

 

A New England legacy is one reason Northeast Ohio has an unusually active clambake season, which is peaking during the next few weeks. Another is transportation, which has evolved to help this culinary tradition build a life of its own here. In season, thousands of clambake meals are being assembled daily here as summer gives way

 

“Right now, I’d bet the amount of clams coming into Cleveland could fill a semi-trailer every day,” said Sean Sullivan, chief operating officer for food distributor EuroUSA.

 

“In the Northeastern part of the country, people do clambakes all summer long,” Sullivan added. “Then the demand drops off. Buffalo is a huge clambake town, but it’s a summer thing.

 

“In September and October, there are more clams shipped to Cleveland than any other city in the country.”

 

Sullivan’s view is not just anecdotal, but built through a career as a seafood specialist here.

 

more:

http://www.cleveland.com/taste/index.ssf/2013/09/cleveland_and_clambakes_a_rela.html

 

When I was on the local die casting trade group board of directors, the fall clambake was a major tradition.  The bigger companies would buy 50+ tickets.  Other groups were similar.  Maple Heights catering was one of the big players and that's about all they did in the fall.

Some love from the NY Post;

 

If you were an Ohioan back in the early ’80s, you might remember “New York’s the Big Apple, but Cleveland’s a Plum,” an ad campaign to rebrand the failing Rust Belt town. Though it never stuck, today’s Cleveland is earning laurels for its homegrown talent, like Iron Chef Michael Symon, along with farm-to-table eateries, award-winning craft breweries and cool art spaces. Here’s where to find them.

 

http://nypost.com/2013/10/01/cleveland-is-seeing-a-revival/

^ a soooo much better way to start off a cle article than the usual tired, moldy old 'fka mistake by...,burning river..., etc.' backhanded and negative crapola openers. yay for that.

 

  • 2 weeks later...

Cleveland has some of the most beautiful sunsets I've seen anywhere. But this photo taken earlier this evening by photographer Don Iannone from his lakefront high-rise condo in Bratenahl is a real stunner......

 

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1397005_10151921970177840_411510966_o.jpg

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

 

Matt Yglesias, economics reporter for Slate is in the Cleve all week, and randomly tweets about the Cleve, all positive.  (Well, for him, he is pretty snarky)

 

For example:

@mattyglesias: Cleveland is kind of beautiful: http://t.co/hW8DFeK9XC

^ yeah matty. and seattle is kind of ugly. see? we can faint damn like you can faint praise lol!

 

New "This is Downtown Cleveland" video:

 

 

 

  • 3 weeks later...

Cleveland is a city that rocks to food

 

by Michael Bauer for Inside Scoop SF

 

"...Last week I spent a few days in Cleveland, looking at a half-dozen high-profile restaurants. I wish I could have done more, but two things became obvious: Cleveland is a meat-centric city, which makes sense given its location; and portions are large, even in small-plate restaurants..."

 

Read more:

http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2013/10/29/cleveland-is-a-city-that-rocks-to-food/

Cleveland needs a modern day icon or symbol, I propose at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River a "Colossus of Rhodes" type structure that is anchored on each side of the river and boats/ships could pass under it.  What or who the statue would be of is up for discussion, Moses Cleaveland?  It would have to be tall enough as not to impede any river traffice and have an observation deck for visitors to ascend.  While it is an "out there" idea, I think Cleveland needs to think outside the box, like the aerial tram, and dare to be different.

 

^ That would be dope.

Cleveland needs a modern day icon or symbol, I propose at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River a "Colossus of Rhodes" type structure that is anchored on each side of the river and boats/ships could pass under it.  What or who the statue would be of is up for discussion, Moses Cleaveland?  It would have to be tall enough as not to impede any river traffice and have an observation deck for visitors to ascend.  While it is an "out there" idea, I think Cleveland needs to think outside the box, like the aerial tram, and dare to be different.

 

 

Something like a Gateway Arch?

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Something like a Gateway Arch?

 

That was in my mind as well.  Especially how you can take elevators to the top of the Arch and the historical center/museum at the base.

I'm thinking of a massive statue of a brawny steelworker.  A sledgehammer in one hand and pierogi in the other.

If only the Guardians of Transportation were 5x bigger!

 

Cleveland is a city that rocks to food

 

by Michael Bauer for Inside Scoop SF

 

"...Last week I spent a few days in Cleveland, looking at a half-dozen high-profile restaurants. I wish I could have done more, but two things became obvious: Cleveland is a meat-centric city, which makes sense given its location; and portions are large, even in small-plate restaurants..."

 

Read more:

http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/blog/2013/10/29/cleveland-is-a-city-that-rocks-to-food/

 

That was a great write-up. Flattering but honest.

^^you can't go wrong with one of Cleveland's great historic television figures

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from l to r: FRANZ THE TOY MAKER, WOODROW THE WOODSMAN, BARNABY, and CAPTAIN PENNY

 

Cleveland needs a modern day icon or symbol, I propose at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River a "Colossus of Rhodes" type structure that is anchored on each side of the river and boats/ships could pass under it.  What or who the statue would be of is up for discussion, Moses Cleaveland?  It would have to be tall enough as not to impede any river traffice and have an observation deck for visitors to ascend.  While it is an "out there" idea, I think Cleveland needs to think outside the box, like the aerial tram, and dare to be different.

 

 

Something like a Gateway Arch?

 

And then the new skylift can go from leg to leg  O0

Cleveland needs a modern day icon or symbol, I propose at the mouth of the Cuyahoga River a "Colossus of Rhodes" type structure that is anchored on each side of the river and boats/ships could pass under it.  What or who the statue would be of is up for discussion, Moses Cleaveland?  It would have to be tall enough as not to impede any river traffice and have an observation deck for visitors to ascend.  While it is an "out there" idea, I think Cleveland needs to think outside the box, like the aerial tram, and dare to be different.

 

 

I smell a Kickstarter campaign!

If we were to build something largely symbollic (like the gateway arch of space needle), I would like to see it straddle the intersection of Ontario and Superior right smack in the middle of public square.  It would be a great skyline filler.

statue of jim brown.  uhhyea.  visible from the stadium

After this last election cycle in Cincinnati, I'd rather move to Cleveland. My research experience/interest in health and biotech doesn't hurt either :)

^Come on up!

After this last election cycle in Cincinnati, I'd rather move to Cleveland. My research experience/interest in health and biotech doesn't hurt either :)

 

If you'd like to pursue it and want help in finding the right neighborhood for you, post an inquiry in the City Life section. We'll be there for you if/when you're ready.

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/board,30.0.html

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

After this last election cycle in Cincinnati, I'd rather move to Cleveland. My research experience/interest in health and biotech doesn't hurt either :)

 

If you'd like to pursue it and want help in finding the right neighborhood for you, post an inquiry in the City Life section. We'll be there for you if/when you're ready.

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/board,30.0.html

 

Cool! :) I'll have to check that out fairly soon...I'm still in college in SW Ohio. I'm thinking about going to Case for med school/grad school, so neighborhoods near there would be the most appropriate.

Can you bring the streetcar project with you?

Hts121: I would rather bring light rail to Euclid Avenue ;) . I'll bring the streetcar project and it'll automagically morph into the WFL extension/Downtown loop :)

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^^you can't go wrong with one of Cleveland's great historic television figures

e990f87c-baf1-47dc-b65a-18ead882ba67_zpsd5e64950.jpg

from l to r: FRANZ THE TOY MAKER, WOODROW THE WOODSMAN, BARNABY, and CAPTAIN PENNY

 

 

Why didn't the German community ever complain about Franz?

^Yeah, because if any people suffered the sting of racism in the 20th Century it was the Germans.

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