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Ask a Local: An Insider's Guide to Cleveland, Ohio

 

People ask me why I left Portland, and I tell them that Cleveland now is very similar to what Portland was 15 years ago, said Robert Stockham, general manager at the citys premiere coffee roaster, Rising Star. Except Cleveland is a city with its own swagger, and a cost of living so low that Stockham said, You can buy a house for less than a car, and you should never pay full retail price for anything here. Also: Cleveland is the place for a hipster hotdog hangout that puts Fruit Loops on its dogs, a brewery that has residents lining up for Christmas-spiced beer, and one of the worlds best symphony orchestras. Come hungry, and let Stockham be your guide.

 

http://www.bonappetit.com/restaurants-travel/article/cleveland-ohio-guide?mbid=social_facebook

 

 

Ouch, Portland people and writer...  http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2016/06/is_cleveland_the_new_portland.html

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People are stupid and bitter. That makes me incredibly angry.

 

But that Times article tho. :)

I desperately do not want people from Portland moving to Cleveland.  I have half a mind to write a guest op-ed piece in their newspaper about how awful Cleveland is.

Ask a Local: An Insider's Guide to Cleveland, Ohio

 

People ask me why I left Portland, and I tell them that Cleveland now is very similar to what Portland was 15 years ago, said Robert Stockham, general manager at the citys premiere coffee roaster, Rising Star. Except Cleveland is a city with its own swagger, and a cost of living so low that Stockham said, You can buy a house for less than a car, and you should never pay full retail price for anything here. Also: Cleveland is the place for a hipster hotdog hangout that puts Fruit Loops on its dogs, a brewery that has residents lining up for Christmas-spiced beer, and one of the worlds best symphony orchestras. Come hungry, and let Stockham be your guide.

 

http://www.bonappetit.com/restaurants-travel/article/cleveland-ohio-guide?mbid=social_facebook

 

 

Ouch, Portland people and writer...  http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2016/06/is_cleveland_the_new_portland.html

Yea, I emailed her.

Don't get the hate. I guess people from Portland are insecure.

I desperately do not want people from Portland moving to Cleveland.  I have half a mind to write a guest op-ed piece in their newspaper about how awful Cleveland is.

 

PLEASE DO!  Like any "hip" city, there are great genuine people of Portland, New Orleans, etc, but then the people who move to a city with the express purpose of becoming cool by association.  Portland seems to be overrun with those people, and I hope they stay away from the Land

Why does it always have to be about residents?  The parade was a perfect example of downtown being a place for everybody.

 

Since you called me ''Beavis'' in another thread...It's a business newspaper But*head, commenting on the vibrancy of downtown CLE on Cavs parade day.  Using this day, the commentary hopes to see general vibrancy downtown which is generally considered to be a population of 25,000. 

 

Increasing the city's taxpayer population translates into business, which creates taxes, which create city services etc, which creates visitors-tourists-business meetings-conventions-sporting&special events that fill hotels that create employment, which creates stability, which creates better schools...get the picture? 

 

Increasing the downtown population can contribute to a nice multiplier. 

 

Downtown is a place for everybody, so your point is misplaced anyway.

 

"Beavis" was in response to you typing out "LOL," which in context was similar to saying "get the picture?" in the sense that it's inappropriately hostile.

 

It's not at all clear that downtown population is required for any of those other goals you list.  One could even argue that different goals involve different types of amenities and investments, so there is a degree of mutual exclusivity in play.  I found Marinucci's statement to be very odd, given that the parade was so distinctly visitor-oriented.  Odd enough to point out, but not important enough to fuss about in this particular thread.  So I bid you good day.

Too bad developers turned all those empty or minimally used buildings downtown into residences.  Downtown is for all people that stopped going downtown the past several decades.  Of course the parade was visitor oriented, Cleveland's population is below 390,000 and there were 1.3 million people downtown.

 

It's all about residency because CLE needs taxpaying residents. 

 

Typical CLE area responses (or at least those living around the City of Cleveland because no one lives there) as soon as more than 10,000 people live downtown, the anti-something starts.  Cleveland did make another top 10 poll of the worst cities to live in; the good is that were up to #9 on the list.  What is everyone going to do if CLE doesn't make the top 10 on these lists?

 

I bid you a good day as well.

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I desperately do not want people from Portland moving to Cleveland.  I have half a mind to write a guest op-ed piece in their newspaper about how awful Cleveland is.

 

PLEASE DO!  Like any "hip" city, there are great genuine people of Portland, New Orleans, etc, but then the people who move to a city with the express purpose of becoming cool by association.  Portland seems to be overrun with those people, and I hope they stay away from the Land

 

Would you say Austin and Nashville fall into those categories as well?

 

 

Two things:

 

1.) that Portland piece was stupid.  She is essentially contradicting someone's opinion on a topic that person is qualified to comment on.  She lived in Portland and lives in Cleveland.  That's how she feels, no need to try to combat that.  I guess those in Portland aren't as open minded as they like to portray.  That's a sour grapes article, sorry you lost one of your residents to Cleveland.  One of my best friends lives in Portland, they are always trying to recruit everyone to move there, it must be some civic movement to try and become the biggest player on the West Coast. They have an inferiority complex to Seattle and San Fran, so I guess that's understandable. 

 

2.) I don't want to be compared to anyone, ever.  we went over this a couple years back when someone called us the next Brooklyn.  Stop that.  We are Cleveland.  Our own identity, our own successes and failures.  We aren't trying to be Portland because we have breweries.  We aren't trying to be anywhere else.  That being said, all the initial piece said was that Cleveland REMINDED her of Portland 15 years ago. I don't think there is anything wrong with that

Waterloo neighborhood gets top billing in Associated Press travel story on Cleveland

By  Susan Glaser, The Plain Dealer 

on July 05, 2016 at 11:58 AM, updated July 05, 2016 at 12:48 PM

 

http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2016/07/waterloo_neighborhood_gets_top.html

 

A presidential bar and more: Cleveland for conventioneers

By BETH J. HARPAZ

Jun. 30, 2016 3:47 PM EDT

 

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/85fb6feaa71d4865a109d12071843f7e/presidential-bar-and-more-cleveland-conventioneers

 

 

NYTimes Instagram:

 

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Nice comments, too, like: "This is a grocery store?"

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

NYTimes Instagram:

 

 

Nice comments, too, like: "This is a grocery store?"

 

I just realized, there's two more of Playhouse Square when you go to their main account page (as of 7/6/2016):

 

https://www.instagram.com/nytimestravel/

 

EDIT to time stamp:

 

 

 

Although the title of the article doesn't scream it, there are some very positive vibes towards Cleveland:

 

http://fortune.com/2016/07/06/convention-profits-cleveland-philadelphia/

 

"In recent years, Cleveland’s population has rebounded too, hitting nearly 400,000 as Millennials flock to the city’s center."

 

No, we are not gaining population!!!!

Big gaffe... The writer should have said the steep population losses of a decade ago have significantly declined per recent projections and that downtown and some trendy neighborhoods have had population growth (but are sadly offset the heavy losses of the more blue collar neighborhoods).

This is random, but has anyone noticed a definite surge in the number of tourists and families with children downtown in the last two weeks?  It seems like ever since public square opened I am seeing TONS of people who are obviously sight seeing and out with their children downtown during the week in the afternoons.  Great to see, just curious if anyone else has noticed this? 

This is random, but has anyone noticed a definite surge in the number of tourists and families with children downtown in the last two weeks?  It seems like ever since public square opened I am seeing TONS of people who are obviously sight seeing and out with their children downtown during the week in the afternoons.  Great to see, just curious if anyone else has noticed this?

 

I was thinking the same thing. I bet that during the Cavs parade families who may not have gone downtown finally got to see how downtown is transforming. Lots of perception changes lately with the positive press the city is getting. :)

This is random, but has anyone noticed a definite surge in the number of tourists and families with children downtown in the last two weeks?  It seems like ever since public square opened I am seeing TONS of people who are obviously sight seeing and out with their children downtown during the week in the afternoons.  Great to see, just curious if anyone else has noticed this?

 

I've noticed that too! Lots of people casually riding bikes lately too. Unfortunately our downtown bike infrastructure sucks so bad that they all end up riding on the sidewalk

It may be more tourists, but it's definitely more locals bringing their kids downtown as well. I think Public Square is a real game changer for kids, families and the future of the City. Memories of being downtown as a kid can be very powerful, and at least in my case and many others I know personally, have lasting impacts on the way people live their lives as adults.

It may be more tourists, but it's definitely more locals bringing their kids downtown as well. I think Public Square is a real game changer for kids, families and the future of the City. Memories of being downtown as a kid can be very powerful, and at least in my case and many others I know personally, have lasting impacts on the way people live their lives as adults.

 

Yes, and considering that the Millennials were basically absent from cities during their childhood and safely ensconced in the suburbs, it is great to see young children (the future) exposed to the urban environment as opposed to the suburban malls the Millennials grew up in.

My neighbors are having a kid from France stay with them for 3 weeks. We took him to Cleveland today and had lunch at Coastal Taco. We ended up renting a jet ski and had an amazing time riding all around inside the breakwater from Whiskey Island to Gordon Park. Public Square was amazing but the S&S monument was unfortunately closed. Then we got a private tour of the Formation Room and back stage at the House of Blues which was crazy. After heading to the Arcade he couldn't stop saying how much he loved Cleveland. He said it was "chic". I hope this was an appropriate place for this kind of post.

 

 

My neighbors are having a kid from France stay with them for 3 weeks. We took him to Cleveland today and had lunch at Coastal Taco. We ended up renting a jet ski and had an amazing time riding all around inside the breakwater from Whiskey Island to Gordon Park. Public Square was amazing but the S&S monument was unfortunately closed. Then we got a private tour of the Formation Room and back stage at the House of Blues which was crazy. After heading to the Arcade he couldn't stop saying how much he loved Cleveland. He said it was "chic". I hope this was an appropriate place for this kind of post.

 

 

 

Good of a place as any. Sounds like an amazing day. Thanks for sharing.

Decent article which he apparently wrote more than a month ago because it references Cleveland's championship drought. He did an incomplete job of updating the article....

 

How to Be a Yankee Fan In Cleveland -- 2016 Edition

http://unclemikesmusings.blogspot.com/2016/07/how-to-be-yankee-fan-in-cleveland-2016.html?m=1

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ These are some of the best photographs I've seen.

Good read from Alex Baca, who just recently moved to Cleveland from SF

 

Cleveland Rising?

By ALEX BACA • July 14, 2016, 12:00 AM

 

“In Northeast Ohio, nothing is given. Everything is earned. You work for what you have.” So wrote LeBron James in a Sports Illustrated homecoming announcement in 2014, providing an apt description of Cleveland’s mythology of rust-belt grind. It’s a story you know: over many decades, factories shuttered, and union jobs became harder to find. White flight hollowed out urban neighborhoods, and the nationwide rise in crime piled on. Companies set up in the suburbs, leaving the city to wither, as its population declined from a high of over 900,000 in 1950 to under 400,000 today.

 

Two years later, when 1.2 million people joyously flooded downtown Cleveland for the Cavs’ NBA championship victory parade, it felt like a real city again, full of people walking, laughing, and drinking in a place once built for that size population. Today downtown is booming, relatively speaking, and the city is firmly committed to harnessing supposedly economically essential millennials within its borders. But you’ve heard about Cleveland more than usual lately because it’s hosting the 2016 Republican National Convention.

 

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/urbs/cleveland-rising/

That whole article is completely backhanded towards Cleveland. The whole read makes it seem like everything thats happened and is happening in the city is directly connected to hosting the RNC and wouldn't have happened otherwise.

^Ummmmmm. I would venture to say quite a bit of this "movement" I'd RNC related. Namely public square, airport, certain hotels. Certainly a lot of momentum overall, but face it, administration wants to flex their muscles for the camera

The RNC sped things up for some projects, yes. But most were happening regardless of the convention. The first half of the article is about Cleveland putting all hope on single megaprojects for renaissance, and the RNC being our latest megaproject. Public Square was being redone regardless. Hotels like the Hilton were going on before. The RNC happened in part because of the new Hilton, not the other way around as the article implies.

^^I think you've got it backwards: the positive forward movement in Cleveland is what attracted the Republicans to the city.  Yes a few hotel projects, like Schofield/Kimpton, which had been dragging its feet, were probably accelerated because of the RNC, but it's clear there was movement before the RNC.

Nobody did anything they weren't planning to do because of the RNC.  Lots of things were sped up to meet a deadline.  Best thing about the RNC, really.

Cleveland v. Philly: A convention city food smackdown

 

By Katia Hetter, CNN

Updated 9:59 AM ET, Fri July 15, 2016

 

(CNN)Everyone in Cleveland knows that politicians who eat Polish Boys and pierogi -- not necessarily at the same time -- increase their chances of winning their political races.

 

And their favorite candy? The buckeye, of course!

Head east to Philly and politicians better like cheesesteak if they don't want to be called carpetbaggers.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/15/foodanddrink/political-conventions-cleveland-versus-philadelphia-food/

46 Things to Do in Cleveland During the G.O.P. Convention

 

Where to Go Now

By ERIK PIEPENBURG JULY 15, 2016

 

The 50,000 officials, delegates, journalists, protesters and gawkers expected to head to Cleveland during the Republican National Convention will encounter extra-tight security around the Quicken Loans Arena, known locally as the Q, where the main event takes place from July 18 through July 21.

 

But beyond the secured perimeters and protest zones, visitors to Cleveland will find a city basking in a new energy — thanks, LeBron! — and alive with restaurants, cultural events and night life.

 

Here’s a guide to spots that mostly fit these convention-friendly criteria: in or near downtown; open to the public during the convention; easily accessible by foot, cab or public transportation; good for small groups; involves eating and drinking; and has something for (almost) everyone. Yes, people who differ in politics, temperament and tastes will convene in Cleveland’s walkable, compact downtown. But here are a few excuses to check your politics at the door.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/travel/46-things-to-do-in-cleveland-during-the-gop-convention.html?_r=0

Are bars open til 4am now?

I think. I'll be testing it out tomorrow.

I must say this morning just watching the various national news channels, Cleveland looks gorgeous. And several of the news channels are already commenting how beautiful the city is and what a transformation it has undergone. Fox News' panel just talked about how anyone who puts Cleveland down has obviously not been recently because it's an amazing city. It was so nice to see such positivity. Now let's hope it stays that way once the circus begins...

 

 

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I consider it my civic duty to handle a lot of the negativity on twitter and so far, it's going fairly well. I'm retweeting a lot of the "surprised it's so great here" comments, being nice to people who are snarky, and I even got blocked yesterday by a dude when I proved to him that the "stand down order" is a fake tweet and CLE police have said many times it's false. This is my way of doing my part.

^^Same here. I was switching around the different channels and  Faux News had the best location and pictures. It looked like at one point they were pointing out the different buildings on the lakefront which was nice.  I had no idea what they were saying as I only watch Faux News with the sound off. 

My mom down in Nashville just texted me to say the local news there has been going on about how nice the city looks and how things have turned around. Ever she, who lived here all her life until last year, was surprised at how beautiful the city looks.

[Note: awesome video by CBS News]

 

Cleveland is Back!

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cleveland-is-back/

 

Hopefully you guys keep posting these here. It's going to be hard to keep up with all of the national media coverage in the next few days. Somebody did a piece going out and about with Mike Polk, but I can't remember where I saw it now.

[Note: awesome video by CBS News]

 

Cleveland is Back!

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cleveland-is-back/

 

Hopefully you guys keep posting these here. It's going to be hard to keep up with all of the national media coverage in the next few days. Somebody did a piece going out and about with Mike Polk, but I can't remember where I saw it now.

 

It was on CBS Sunday morning news today.

[Note: awesome video by CBS News]

 

Cleveland is Back!

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cleveland-is-back/

 

Hopefully you guys keep posting these here. It's going to be hard to keep up with all of the national media coverage in the next few days. Somebody did a piece going out and about with Mike Polk, but I can't remember where I saw it now.

 

It was on CBS Sunday morning news today.

 

Yeah I caught most of it live and the whole thing is on YouTube. I just know that I will miss some of the other good stuff on Cleveland so hopefully we can all post it here.

I was riffing my bike around town running errands and, ok having cocktails and I had ree people ask me if we are are always so friendly. I said if friendly me and down to earth, then yeasts.

 

 

 

Best talk to text/autocorrect post ever

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