September 2, 201113 yr Absolutely! Especially young adults! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 4, 201113 yr Someone showing some C-town love. Cleveland casts its own magic for member of movie's crew: Mark Webb Published: Saturday, September 03, 2011, 11:40 AM By Plain Dealer guest columnist The Plain Dealer I was sitting here on my last full day in Cleveland, staring out my hotel room window, looking at Browns Stadium, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, and of course, City Hall. It then popped into my head to write about this incredible opportunity I had to visit and stay in Cleveland.... >>>>>>>http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2011/09/cleveland_casts_its_own_magic.html
September 4, 201113 yr That was awesome. Thanks. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 4, 201113 yr How touching! Good to hear outsiders have something good to say rather than hearing the local yocal "Joe's" on CDC who have not been downtown since 1972.
September 7, 201113 yr Heard this on Kiss FM this afternoon on my way home. It's not originally a Cleveland song, but the edit is great. "This City" http://www.kisscleveland.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=353806&article=9075340
September 20, 201113 yr This was posted in the Richman Brothers Development thread, but here is it in case you're not reading through every thread! Here's the video airing in China, trying to get Chinese investment money to come to Cleveland: "When we talk to people in China, they never heard of Cleveland," Derek Ng said. "We have to make them excited. We have to make them say, "I want to know about that city!" So the father-son team designed a greeting. They created a video now airing on television channels that reach Macau, Hong Kong and the Cantonese-speaking regions of southern China. They created a five-minute infomercial that depicts a scenic, diverse, lakefront world. http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011/09/cleveland_developers_say_hello.html
September 21, 201113 yr ^ wow that is awesome! they packed a lot into a 5min promo. i didnt catch anything, but i hope they mentioned asiatown and especially the orchestra, that might ring some bells in china. anyway so cool this is running on tv in over there, very good -- derek ng for mayor!! now if only local leaders from other cultures would step up and do the same...! maybe this will inspire others? well for now here's my soho and wv version of cle pr :laugh:
September 25, 201113 yr I found this one on the Cleveland group plan, Federal Courthouse. One more reason why I love Cleveland.
September 25, 201113 yr I didn't know where to ask this, but I have a question about Terminal Tower... Why do they not light up the entire tower like they use to before the renovations towards the top? Now that everything is done, they only light up the top of the building. Look at pictures from the early and mid 2000s, the entire tower is lit up and it really adds a lot more to the tower itself.
September 26, 201113 yr I didn't know where to ask this, but I have a question about Terminal Tower... Why do they not light up the entire tower like they use to before the renovations towards the top? Now that everything is done, they only light up the top of the building. Look at pictures from the early and mid 2000s, the entire tower is lit up and it really adds a lot more to the tower itself. Missin, Ive asked this numerous times and never got an answer. In fact ususally nobody seems to know what I'm talking about (even the locals), but yes the whole thing was lit to the bottom of the tower before the renovation started.
September 27, 201113 yr I didn't know where to ask this, but I have a question about Terminal Tower... Why do they not light up the entire tower like they use to before the renovations towards the top? Now that everything is done, they only light up the top of the building. Look at pictures from the early and mid 2000s, the entire tower is lit up and it really adds a lot more to the tower itself. Here is a good place to ask questions in the future. http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,23946.300.html Also, Ive personally asked the guy who changes the lights to different colors and I dont remember getting a straight answer. It was awhile back so I cant remember exactly but I think he said they might do it again. I dont think they will anytime soon though.
October 1, 201113 yr I saw this on Huffington Post this week... 8 fall weekend ideas. Cleveland Beer Week was the first one (#1) Enjoy A Grown-Up Beverage There's not a cup of hot chocolate in sight here. If you'd forgo a cardboard mug for a pint glass anytime, Cleveland has got the festival for you. Every October the city's best bars open their doors for Cleveland Beer Week, featuring a who's who of neighborhood breweries, four-course meals, and even a ride of the Cuyahoga Valley Railroad with seven savory craft brews. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/eight-fall-weekends_n_974720.html#s368418&title=Enjoy_A_GrownUp
October 1, 201113 yr I found this one on the Cleveland group plan, Federal Courthouse. One more reason why I love Cleveland. GSA's Center for Historic Buildings--Nice work. That was an excellent film. Very moving
October 3, 201113 yr I just ran across it moments ago. I see the imbedded trivia/questions/answers they posted are: + This industrial waterway helped ignite the environmental movement of the 1960s.... http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=%22The+Return+of+the+Cuyahoga%22&view=detail&mid=5DB8EF124699B2709EC35DB8EF124699B2709EC3&first=0&FORM=hphot1 + Veterans Memorial Bridge is just one of hundreds of bridges in this city.... http://www.bing.com/places/search?q=cleveland%2C+oh&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-13&form=hphot2 + Ask ABBA, ZZ Top or any musician in between. This city rocks.... http://www.bing.com/search?q=rock+and+roll+hall+of+fame&qs=n&sk=&sc=8-26&form=hphot3 + This city is on the shore of a lake that put the E in "HOMES" and the gerund in "Sergeant Major Hates Eating Onions" http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=42.26397683899567~-81.04356108067475&lvl=8&dir=0&sty=b&where1=Great%20Lakes&form=hphot4 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 15, 201113 yr Cleveland Lego contest: Show you love for C-Town with your own Lego creation Calling all Lego lovers! Lego's KidsFest will be in Cleveland on Friday-Sunday, Nov. 4-6 (go to legokidsfest.com for more information). In honor of the block-building extravaganza, we're inviting you to share your best Cleveland-centric creation. A replica of Tower City or Cleveland Browns Stadium, perhaps? Or maybe a guitar or a Lake Erie lighthouse? Whatever you choose, snap a picture of it and upload it to cleveland.com (directions below) or email it to [email protected] with Lego Contest in the subject, or you can mail a picture to Lego Contest, The Plain Dealer, 1801 Superior Ave., Cleveland, OH 44114. Be sure to include your name, hometown and phone number. http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2011/10/cleveland_lego_contest_show_yo.html TO VIEW SUBMISSIONS http://photos.cleveland.com/1812/gallery/cleveland_lego_contest/index.html
October 19, 201113 yr Is it weird that I get goose bumps watching that? I love it! https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
October 19, 201113 yr Also a newer video... the last 12 seconds was a straight up dig at those who are leaving downtown for "suburban campuses"
October 20, 201113 yr Is it weird that I get goose bumps watching that? I love it! Me, too! Except they should get rid of the goofy looking runner ;)
October 20, 201113 yr Haha, no problem. Loved the video, that's so cool that you were in it. Anything for the best mother f-ing location in the nation!
October 20, 201113 yr Awesome videos!!! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 21, 201113 yr Anthony Bourdain gives another shout out to Cleveland: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/10/19/2703667/anthony-bourdain.html#ixzz1bCbf8Hj1 Q. Best food town in the United States?
October 21, 201113 yr The same thing applies to shopping in the Chagrin Valley and the Heights. You can see really great products in the stores here: "Charlotte is a great chef town, but there aren't enough millionaires to support niche restaurants. "
October 22, 201113 yr ^^I know the guy who opened Pickwick said his inspiration was the places that used to be on Short Vincent.
October 24, 201113 yr I am aware that "Civic Pride" is not a construction related post, but I feel that it is a relevant topic for discussion. I apologize if my post is misplaced; I believe that moderator of the forum can find a fitting place for it latter. I moved to the Cleveland area about two months ago from California. I can't say how happy I am to be in Cleveland. After living here for two weeks, i know that I might not be in a place to offer a proper assessment. However, from what I have experienced it couldn't have been any better. With this said, one thing I have come to notice is that people around the city have a pretty pessimistic view of the city and this seems to reach outside the limits of the city. I need help in understand why. I am really excited to have made this post since it is my first after reading many of the topics posted for a while now. :-D
October 24, 201113 yr I couldn't agree more. Some place have much more of this than others. I think history makes a difference. Older places that have been able to survive the ups and downs have built up a sense of shared identity through those experiences and the institutions they create are more sophisticated and diverse that newer places just don't have. Some might develop it in the future as they go through their growing pains but others never will.
October 24, 201113 yr That's what I've noticed since moving here (I'm sure there are some rants in posts on here somewhere:D) as well. There are proud people, but the number of negative Nancy's and Nelson's far outweigh them. I've been curious about what actually causes it, because for all of the problems in Cleveland, the positives still make it a great place to live. Welcome!!!
October 24, 201113 yr All Ohio cities, and Ohio as a whole, suffer from this problem. I think it has to do with having fallen from better times. Save Columbus, all of Ohio's cities have seen better days. Cincinnati peaked in the mid-1800's. Cleveland peaked in the early-mid-1900's. With the glory days becoming more and more distant, and economic struggles that have resulted from sprawl and white flight (and industrial collapse), people don't see much to be optimistic about. Most people who grew up in Ohio have seen their hometowns declining (in population, jobs, and wealth) their entire lives. People also suffer from a "grass is greener" complex. The national media doesn't help, as it perpetuates the idea that the coasts are the only relevant parts of the country. Considering LA and NYC are the only real media hubs, it's not hard to see why this might be the case. The pessimism is, of course, self-fulfilling to a degree. Without it, all of Ohio would have a much better shot at reaching its full potential. That goes especially for Cincinnati and Cleveland, IMO.
October 24, 201113 yr Two articles: 1) Gotta Grove records in the New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/23/magazine/you-are-here-building-a-house-of-wax-in-cleveland.html 2) Cleveland guide in the Pittsburgh Tribune: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/lifestyles/travel/s_763109.html
October 24, 201113 yr SNOD, welcome to Cleveland and congratulations on your first post at UO. I hope you will continue to post in the many threads here. Mind telling us the origin of your forum name? Mine is simply my initials. Please don't tell me SNOD is yours! :) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 24, 201113 yr ^^^ I agree with the post above. One of the most annoying things about the people of Cleveland is their self-depreciating ways. It has to be about the worst in the country when it comes to that sort of thing, much of which having to do with ignorance. Unfortunately many Clevelanders cannot see beyond their own negativity and don't realize all of the great things that Cleveland has going for it. Cleveland used to be one of the more prominent cities in the country during its prime, but it hit some tough times and obviously no longer has that status. Unfortunately this is what a lot of people focus on in Cleveland. That does not mean Cleveland is a bad place, it just didn't live up to its full potential like many thought it would. I'm not as familiar with Cincinnati, but I image it is similar in that regard. Despite its problems, I find Cleveland to be a better city than many other locations where people have an over-inflated sense of their city. This is often the case with cities that have grown a lot in recent decades and like to pound their chest. Unlike Cleveland and many other places in Ohio, I find that Columbus is a city that has an over-inflated opinion of itself due to recent strides.
October 24, 201113 yr There are a number of reasons why Clevelanders have such low self-esteem. Just a few off the top of my head: Also...in the interest of not having to read someone(s) go through each point and challenge it, let's just say these are the perceptions that I believe many Clevelanders share. This isn't absolute fact, just opinion. So let's just save the whiny, overly defensive retorts for now. Something as simple as the phrase "mistake on the lake" has unfortunately stuck to Cleveland like glue. Cleveland has tried to promote other nicknames but they haven't been as catchy as the negative one. Sometimes words make a difference. The city has a lousy perception from those who haven't visited or lived here. I'm talking about every goddamn article about Cleveland, even if positive, always having to talk about its problems before getting to the good stuff. They all begin negatively no matter what - it's incredible! It would be like if every article about New York City would reference 9/11 in the first paragraph, no matter what the content. All of the momentum from the 80s and 90s, in which Cleveland became nationally known as the comeback city, just seemed to disappear in the 2000s. Things were getting better with new buildings, stadiums and museums, the once-in-a-lifetime-party venue of the country, an overall cleaner city, Major League and the Drew Carey Show, both of which kind of pushed the root-for-the-underdog mentality people had---and then it all just seemed to die. I think we saw the momentum die and it hurt a lot. Racial relations are pretty disastrous in this city, let's not kid ourselves. This isn't Atlanta. Jobs/local economy. The continual eroding of once great, then middle class, now struggling neighborhoods throughout the city and inner ring suburbs hurts a lot as well. Just driving downtown from the Eastside and seeing all the desolate areas is heartbreaking. Sports and weather and unbelievably corrupt political forces and epicenter of mortgage holocaust and failed projects and the exodus of young professionals and terrible newspaper...well, once you add up all those things, and I understand that you might not agree with all these complaints, but there's enough to understand why civic pride is lacking in the city. Finally, there is a complete absence of leadership. There just isn't. It's not Mayor Jackson, it's not the Ratners or the Mandels, it's not any of the remaining big businesses or wealthy families, none of the PD writers, none of the school deans...we just don't have anyone to follow. Not really. You can bet your a$$ that affects civic pride as well.
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