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Small correction: Case Institute of Technology merged with Western Reserve University to form Case Western Reserve University. My dad graduated from Western Reserve U.

 

My Ohio: Cleveland's University Circle neighborhood pulses with excitement

University Circle basks in art & entertainment

Leon Bibb

7:00 PM, Jul 31, 2015

 

CLEVELAND - I am nostalgic.  Unashamedly, I admit that.  I smile when I think of days long ago when I held my parents' hands and we walked around the lagoon in front of the Cleveland Museum of Art. There was something magical in that area of the city.  It was Cleveland's University Circle.

 

The magic is still there, only more of it.  "Where else can you find three hospitals, three colleges or universities, and a dozen arts and cultural institutions within a square mile?" asks Chris Ronayne, president of University Circle Incorporated.  Although he asks the question, he is really making a statement. He answers his own question:  "You can't find that any other place in the world."

 

Ronayne is right.  He ought to know.  University Circle Inc. is an umbrella organization which promotes the entire area.  When you are in the heart of the circle, in whatever direction you look, there is culture, art and a lot of promise.  It has long been a vibrant area because of the Cleveland Museum of Art, Severance Hall, where the Cleveland Orchestra plays, the Natural History Museum, Western Reserve Historical Society, Cleveland Institute of Art, the Museum of Contemporary Art and Case Western Reserve University.

 

MORE:

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/my-ohio/my-ohio-clevelands-university-circle-neighborhood-pulses-with-excitement

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Leon Bibb wears his Cleveland Pride on his sleeve, which is why I've always liked him... He's right, the word "magical" is the word I always used to describe University Circle.  Like him, I've always felt it from childhood, it's a special place...Now with Uptown, it's magical on steroids.

today's google doodle!

 

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I don't get it.  Garret Morgan related?

Yes, first traffic light 101 years ago today at Euclid Ave and East 105th...

 

Re:Google Doodle, we recognize Garrett Morgan, whose inventions led to design of the modern traffic light #cleveland http://t.co/0Xzo4bTpXG

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^ The common misconception is that Garrett Morgan designed that first traffic light on Euclid. It was actually James Hoge. Morgan's didn't come around until the 1920s.

per google:

 

 

101st Anniversary of the First Electric Traffic Signal System

 

August 5, 2015

The early twentieth-century intersection was a strange scene. While the world’s largest automobile manufacturer sold over 20,000 cars a month in 1914, horse-drawn wagons and carts still crowded the streets, and accidents became increasingly frequent. Intersections in major cities were congested, and traffic was directed by police officers who stood in the middle of chaotic highways waving their arms--an unenviable beat, to say the least, especially during a blustery winter in the Midwest.

 

A solution to the problem was woefully overdue. Gas-lit stoplights appeared in England before the turn of the century, but these had a tendency to explode, and mechanically operated signs that displayed the words “stop” and “move” still relied on traffic attendants. Enter the inspiration of today’s Doodle, the electric traffic signal, which was first installed at the corner of 105th and Euclid in Cleveland, Ohio on August 5th, 1914.

 

 

Doodler Nate Swinehart hearkens back to an earlier time with shades of black and white, and uses the background colors to make the red and green signals particularly luminous. It’s not an artistic coincidence that the cars leap forward and screech wildly to a halt, either--the yellow light wouldn’t appear for several years, and overzealous motorists had to stop on a dime.

 

The Media and the Elephants have invaded Cleveland.  Media is from all over the world to cover the R-Debates tonight... Chris Matthews of MSNBC, like the ESPN pregame crew for the NBA Finals, was broadcasting from E. 4th Street.  Morning Joe (Scarborough) is also broadcasting from C-town tomorrow morning, but I'm not sure which locale his team is choosing.

 

btw, according to cleveland.com, the R-Prez candidates who didn't make the (top-10 debate) cut, are having a forum/watch-party at the House of Blues till midnight... Everybody loves E. 4th Street...

 

other tidbits:

 

... Marco Rubio was hosted by Josh Mandel over at TownHall in Ohio City last night.

 

... Chris Christie is eating at 2 major restaurants in town, including chowing down at Nido Italia in Little Italy before the debates (I hope neither joint runs out of food as a result). 

 

... and from the "What's Wrong with this Picture" file, I understand Mike Huckabee (listed in cleve.com's headline as Mike Huckbee (sic)) toured the Rock Hall for some reason; which has got to be terrible publicity for the R&RHOF.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2015/08/huckbee_takes_a_break_from_deb.html#incart_story_package

 

^ Also, the Cuyahoga County GOP/Kasich campaign is holding a watch party at Harry Buffalo.

 

And Morning Joe is being broadcast from Flannery's tomorrow morning. Doors open at 5:30am

 

Anytime Cle is in a (positive) spotlight , it's good

 

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nice work & thats looking good!

What's the ESPN crew doing at East 4th again?  Good to see Steven A Smith branching out into politics.

^Humor?

Apparently not.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJxCdh1Ps48

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Here's some Cleveland love, from 150 years ago....

 

Mark Twain considered #Cleveland’s Euclid Ave "Millionaire's Row" one of the grandest streets in the entire world! http://t.co/oY4a4CrDg5

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Here's some Cleveland love, from 150 years ago....

 

Mark Twain considered #Cleveland’s Euclid Ave "Millionaire's Row" one of the grandest streets in the entire world! http://t.co/oY4a4CrDg5

 

Awesome, my "relative".  :)

Here's some Cleveland love, from 150 years ago....

 

Mark Twain considered #Cleveland’s Euclid Ave "Millionaire's Row" one of the grandest streets in the entire world! http://t.co/oY4a4CrDg5

 

Forgive me if this question comes off dumb, but why were all of these mansions on Euclid torn down? I know how much urban renewal destroyed American urban neighborhoods, but usually it was stimulated by a major transportation or public works project. Most of Cincinnati's West End was demolished through urban renewal during the construction of I-75. In addition to 75, the area was declared blighted and over-crowded, which paved the way for the clear cutting that occurred. I can't imagine similar arguments of blight and over crowding would be applied to a district of mansions, and I didn't notice a highway between downtown and University Circle. So why did Millionaire's Row get demolished? Was it torn down all at once or did buildings fall into disrepair and meet the wrecking ball one by one?

Here's some Cleveland love, from 150 years ago....

 

Mark Twain considered #Cleveland’s Euclid Ave "Millionaire's Row" one of the grandest streets in the entire world! http://t.co/oY4a4CrDg5

 

Forgive me if this question comes off dumb, but why were all of these mansions on Euclid torn down? I know how much urban renewal destroyed American urban neighborhoods, but usually it was stimulated by a major transportation or publics work project. Most of Cincinnati's West End was demolished through urban renewal during the construction of I-75. In addition to 75, the area was declared blighted and over-crowded, which paved the way for the clear cutting that occurred. I can't imagine similar arguments of blight and over crowding would be applied to a district of mansions, and I didn't notice a highway between downtown and University Circle. So why did Millionaire's Row get demolished? Was it torn down all at once or did buildings fall into disrepair and meet the wrecking ball one by one?

 

I don't know how many mansions this applies to, but I've heard that when some of the owners of those homes moved east to estates in places like Hunting Valley they tore down their Euclid Avenue homes, not wanting to see anyone else live in them. 

Here's some Cleveland love, from 150 years ago....

 

Mark Twain considered #Cleveland’s Euclid Ave "Millionaire's Row" one of the grandest streets in the entire world! http://t.co/oY4a4CrDg5

 

Forgive me if this question comes off dumb, but why were all of these mansions on Euclid torn down? I know how much urban renewal destroyed American urban neighborhoods, but usually it was stimulated by a major transportation or publics work project. Most of Cincinnati's West End was demolished through urban renewal during the construction of I-75. In addition to 75, the area was declared blighted and over-crowded, which paved the way for the clear cutting that occurred. I can't imagine similar arguments of blight and over crowding would be applied to a district of mansions, and I didn't notice a highway between downtown and University Circle. So why did Millionaire's Row get demolished? Was it torn down all at once or did buildings fall into disrepair and meet the wrecking ball one by one?

 

I don't know how many mansions this applies to, but I've heard that when some of the owners of those homes moved east to estates in places like Hunting Valley they tore down their Euclid Avenue homes, not wanting to see anyone else live in them. 

 

At the time that this happened, more likely they moved to the Heights.

Charles Brush was one in particular who wanted his house torn down after he died because he didn't want it turned into a boarding house.

Here's some Cleveland love, from 150 years ago....

 

Mark Twain considered #Cleveland’s Euclid Ave "Millionaire's Row" one of the grandest streets in the entire world! http://t.co/oY4a4CrDg5

 

Forgive me if this question comes off dumb, but why were all of these mansions on Euclid torn down? I know how much urban renewal destroyed American urban neighborhoods, but usually it was stimulated by a major transportation or publics work project. Most of Cincinnati's West End was demolished through urban renewal during the construction of I-75. In addition to 75, the area was declared blighted and over-crowded, which paved the way for the clear cutting that occurred. I can't imagine similar arguments of blight and over crowding would be applied to a district of mansions, and I didn't notice a highway between downtown and University Circle. So why did Millionaire's Row get demolished? Was it torn down all at once or did buildings fall into disrepair and meet the wrecking ball one by one?

 

I don't know how many mansions this applies to, but I've heard that when some of the owners of those homes moved east to estates in places like Hunting Valley they tore down their Euclid Avenue homes, not wanting to see anyone else live in them. 

 

This is definitely the case for the Charles Brush mansion; it was in his will to tear his huge mansion down if no family member lived in it.  Not sure about the others.  I am not certain, but I believe the Millionaire's Row area declined because light industry moved in the early/mid 20th century, esp along the nearby RR sidings, which had the effect of strangling the neighborhood... and, as noted, the wealthy bolted for places like the Heights and beyond. 

Here's some Cleveland love, from 150 years ago....

 

Mark Twain considered #Cleveland’s Euclid Ave "Millionaire's Row" one of the grandest streets in the entire world! http://t.co/oY4a4CrDg5

 

Forgive me if this question comes off dumb, but why were all of these mansions on Euclid torn down? I know how much urban renewal destroyed American urban neighborhoods, but usually it was stimulated by a major transportation or publics work project. Most of Cincinnati's West End was demolished through urban renewal during the construction of I-75. In addition to 75, the area was declared blighted and over-crowded, which paved the way for the clear cutting that occurred. I can't imagine similar arguments of blight and over crowding would be applied to a district of mansions, and I didn't notice a highway between downtown and University Circle. So why did Millionaire's Row get demolished? Was it torn down all at once or did buildings fall into disrepair and meet the wrecking ball one by one?

 

I don't know how many mansions this applies to, but I've heard that when some of the owners of those homes moved east to estates in places like Hunting Valley they tore down their Euclid Avenue homes, not wanting to see anyone else live in them. 

 

This is definitely the case for the Charles Brush mansion; it was in his will to tear his huge mansion down if no family member lived in it.  Not sure about the others.  I am not certain, but I believe the Millionaire's Row area declined because light industry moved in the early/mid 20th century, esp along the nearby RR sidings, which had the effect of strangling the neighborhood... and, as noted, the wealthy bolted for places like the Heights and beyond. 

 

It went from 12th to 55th, so the expansion of downtown and Cleveland State would have replaced the bulk of it.  The Cleveland Arena and the rest of Midtown the rest.

^The expansion of downtown makes sense.  Single family homes just don't make sense when land values climb beyond a certain point, so I can certainly understand the rationale for demolition in that case.  Even the mansions that used to be on 5th Avenue were mostly torn down to accommodate the development of bigger and denser buildings.  I'm just having a hard time imagining a scenario where 300+ grand structures that combined to create one of the world's best boulevards (per the link posted a few posts up) are deemed disposable enough to level for essentially nothing.  I know of countless examples of fine grained urban neighborhoods that were lost to urban renewal-- neighborhoods that were maybe in rough condition, or built in vernaculars that weren't seen as extraordinary at the time, and are only now mourned.  Urban Renewal stories like Cincinnati's West End, the North side of St. Louis, this area of Louisville: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=18720.0) all follow the common narrative of urban renewal. In the absence of a transportation project, environmental disaster (i.e. flooding or fire), or large housing project, and with the historical and architectural significance of Millionaire's row, this case seems different.

 

It just bums me out to read of such a grand boulevard, and have literally almost zero trace of it today.  How can a community do that to itself? :cry:

^ Yeah but the majority of these mansions weren't lost to the "urban renewal" of the post war era.  Most were torn down much much earlier as the City grew outward.  East 12th-55th was and continues to be in the City's core.  As Cleveland boomed in the early 20th century, it just didn't make sense to have single family residences (even grand ones) take up the main thoroughfare.

 

East 12th-55th also became a very busy and congested part of the City - hardly a place the uber wealthy would want to live.  12th-55th was on the outskirts of town from 1840s-1890s and an urban neighborhood from 1890s-1900s.

 

Most of the wealthy moved to the Heights and built their grand mansions out there in the 1920s.  Luckily, those are still intact and are in no threat.  All is not lost.

some burned down, too.  others were cost-prohibitive to maintain. 

The narrative has changed

it is....  was in the gym outside of DC (Greenbelt, MD) and overheard two guys talking about NEO.....  one guy was saying how he had such a great time at football and rock HOF...  other guy says he wants to check it out...

Over the last few months I have been serving on a young professional committee with Destination Cleveland tasked with coming up with ways to better engage locals with the city. The final product is called the This Is CLE Challenge and it consists of seasonal to-do lists that were created by a consensus of the committee members. Here is the link explaining the contest: http://www.thisiscleveland.com/ThisisCLEChallenge/

 

As with any new project, participation has not been super high, so we are hoping to get more people involved. If you submit at least one entry of you doing something on the list (ideally taking someone who doesn't get into the city often) then you can be entered to win the prize package (valued at around ~$500). The contest runs until mid-September and then will be followed by the fall edition. Be sure to tag #ThisisCLE when sharing the pictures on social media as well.

the women on my private moms' board were discussing this. I'm sorry to say that the general feeling about this contest is pretty negative. Participating requires a lot from the contestants, and many of the things required cost a good deal of money. Most of the people I know don't have Twitter or Instagram, which are required, and while most of the women on the board are middle to upper class, the fact that so many entries require you to spend money or are from a proscribed list is very off-putting.

 

When I first read it, I actually thought ALL the activities were required, like an expensive scavenger hunt, which really made me mad. While I re-read it when the topic came up on my board and I realize they're not all required, I find the contest to be cumbersome and clearly geared toward people who have a smart phone, multiple social media accounts and a lot of free time and disposable income. And while I personally DO have multiple social media accounts and a smart phone, I'm not likely to go do any of the things they ask and then take pictures and send them out.

 

No offense intended as I LOVE Cleveland, but I think the contest tenets are restrictive and off-putting, and that may be why there hasn't been much participation. I can think of 100 things I've done this summer with my kid or on my own with friends that would have been great things to send out on social media (and many I've actually taken pix of and done that with), but none of them were from the list. Just a few examples of things I've done this summer:

 

- attending Tremont greek festival

- going to Sterle's beer garden

- brunch at Prosperity

- hitting Tremont for Cleveland Shakespeare Festival

- hiking in the Metroparks

- participating in Ohio City 5K

- dinner at Johnny Mango's, Momocho

- going to theater at Cleveland Public Theater

- seeing a band at Parkview lounge

- running along the lakefront trail next to Burke airport

 

etc.

^ Solid feedback, rockandroller[/member]. Thank you. Many of the things you addressed are planned to be changed for the next go around. I agree that the instructions were a bit confusing and too cumbersome for wide participation. Posting to social media isn't a requirement though, just something that is encouraged.

 

As for picking specific items for a checklist, that is always a challenge. The thought was to point out particular things so that there would be more of a call to action rather than just saying "go to a Cleveland festival" or "have dinner at a neighborhood restaurant." Everything you had mentioned that you did this summer were brought up as suggestions, but unfortunately only so much can be put on a list. But it's a good thing to think about moving forward.

 

The general point is to get people who love Cleveland to have an incentive to engage with friends or family members who don't get into the city often (or who don't have a positive impression of the city). It's a work in progress, so feedback is appreciated. Everyone can feel free to email me with any thoughts or suggestions.

 

Nonetheless, we still have another month with the summer list, so any participation would be appreciated.

Over the last few months I have been serving on a young professional committee with Destination Cleveland tasked with coming up with ways to better engage locals with the city. The final product is called the This Is CLE Challenge and it consists of seasonal to-do lists that were created by a consensus of the committee members. Here is the link explaining the contest: http://www.thisiscleveland.com/ThisisCLEChallenge/

 

As with any new project, participation has not been super high, so we are hoping to get more people involved. If you submit at least one entry of you doing something on the list (ideally taking someone who doesn't get into the city often) then you can be entered to win the prize package (valued at around ~$500). The contest runs until mid-September and then will be followed by the fall edition. Be sure to tag #ThisisCLE when sharing the pictures on social media as well.

 

If you are trying to get people to venture in from the suburbs, why are you sending them to Blossom?  Ironically, that's the only event on that list that really needs a car.

"5 Reasons Why I Chose #Cleveland For My Family."

http://t.co/dL0vc7YqyU

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Caught the Browns ESPN game with the Bills on Monday Night Football, on Thursday" (say what?) last night.  The Browns looked promising (esp Johnny), but lost (who cares in preseason?), but Cleveland looked GREAT.  Many wide and street shots.  I especially liked the shot of Playhouse Sq and the Chandelier.  PHS is often overlooked as an attractive streetscape, but it really is an historic thing of beauty.

^ The city looked great from the stadium last night too

 

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As for picking specific items for a checklist, that is always a challenge. The thought was to point out particular things so that there would be more of a call to action rather than just saying "go to a Cleveland festival" or "have dinner at a neighborhood restaurant." Everything you had mentioned that you did this summer were brought up as suggestions, but unfortunately only so much can be put on a list. But it's a good thing to think about moving forward.

 

 

Actually this is exactly what you SHOULD be doing.  Let the locals choose the specifics.  We know what the festivals are, we know our local restaurants.  But you may be surprised at what results come out from people sharing what they like personally, rather than following a list of specific, handpicked suggestions.  Just my two cents.

Uptown was really hopping last night. Never seen it so busy. Every joint had a decent crowd and lots of foot traffic wandering about.  Even better, it didn't seem like that had an adverse effect on Littlle Italy which was also very lively

Uptown was really hopping last night. Never seen it so busy. Every joint had a decent crowd and lots of foot traffic wandering about.  Even better, it didn't seem like that had an adverse effect on Littlle Italy which was also very lively

 

What, no photos?? ;)

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Uptown was really hopping last night. Never seen it so busy. Every joint had a decent crowd and lots of foot traffic wandering about.  Even better, it didn't seem like that had an adverse effect on Littlle Italy which was also very lively

 

I flew in Thursday for the weekend and stopped over at Uptown yesterday --checked out the area as well as the new RTA station in Little Italy (more on that, later).  I believe it is freshman orientation week at Case so there are a lot of parents/families around the area helping loved ones move in and get acclimated to CWRU... Still, though, even during normal days, this area seems to be growing in popularity and is usually bustling by day and into the evening -- people really seem to love it, and for good reason.  Just like with E. 4th Street, the Maron family planned this urban development extremely well, and the proof of its success is obvious...  When I was last here earlier this summer, we sat in the window at Panera's at around 1p (parking was scarce and at a premium -- a hassle but a great sign for the neighborhood).  My friend commented how all the foot traffic and building density made Uptown feel like it could be in New York or Chicago.  Also auto traffic was jammed and at a crawl up Euclid.  Love to see that!

here is a funny top 10 factoid i read in the mpls star-tribune about the real leatherheads of duluth, mn:

 

 

• Star halfback Johnny (Blood) McNally fell in love with a woman at a Cleveland hotel. Except it turned out to be Harpo Marx in drag.

 

If anyone else is a fan of roller derby girls, there's a whole lot of them from all over who will be partying at the 9 tonite.

Uptown was really hopping last night. Never seen it so busy. Every joint had a decent crowd and lots of foot traffic wandering about.  Even better, it didn't seem like that had an adverse effect on Littlle Italy which was also very lively

 

I flew in Thursday for the weekend and stopped over at Uptown yesterday --checked out the area as well as the new RTA station in Little Italy (more on that, later).  I believe it is freshman orientation week at Case so there are a lot of parents/families around the area helping loved ones move in and get acclimated to CWRU... Still, though, even during normal days, this area seems to be growing in popularity and is usually bustling by day and into the evening -- people really seem to love it, and for good reason.  Just like with E. 4th Street, the Maron family planned this urban development extremely well, and the proof of its success is obvious...  When I was last here earlier this summer, we sat in the window at Panera's at around 1p (parking was scarce and at a premium -- a hassle but a great sign for the neighborhood).  My friend commented how all the foot traffic and building density made Uptown feel like it could be in New York or Chicago.  Also auto traffic was jammed and at a crawl up Euclid.  Love to see that!

 

I accounted for that, seeing a few college age kids with their families, but mostly it was just either a younger crowd or older crowd, not really all that much mixing.  It seemed like more families were out together in LI

Uptown was really hopping last night. Never seen it so busy. Every joint had a decent crowd and lots of foot traffic wandering about.  Even better, it didn't seem like that had an adverse effect on Littlle Italy which was also very lively

 

I flew in Thursday for the weekend and stopped over at Uptown yesterday --checked out the area as well as the new RTA station in Little Italy (more on that, later).  I believe it is freshman orientation week at Case so there are a lot of parents/families around the area helping loved ones move in and get acclimated to CWRU... Still, though, even during normal days, this area seems to be growing in popularity and is usually bustling by day and into the evening -- people really seem to love it, and for good reason.  Just like with E. 4th Street, the Maron family planned this urban development extremely well, and the proof of its success is obvious...  When I was last here earlier this summer, we sat in the window at Panera's at around 1p (parking was scarce and at a premium -- a hassle but a great sign for the neighborhood).  My friend commented how all the foot traffic and building density made Uptown feel like it could be in New York or Chicago.  Also auto traffic was jammed and at a crawl up Euclid.  Love to see that!

 

I accounted for that, seeing a few college age kids with their families, but mostly it was just either a younger crowd or older crowd, not really all that much mixing.  It seemed like more families were out together in LI

 

That typically happens for a couple weekends after the feast.  People who missed it, or went and decided to revisit.

^ I had similar thoughts to what E Rocc is saying. The Feast brings many people from the Eastern suburbs who may not enter Cleveland city very often.  Seeing the now completed Uptown may have caused curiously for a revisit.

^No question, there's definitely a palpable excitement about the Uptown neighborhood that, in some ways, mirrors the feeling people have toward Ohio City and Tremont.  As you note, it's becoming a destination for nonresidents, which is key.

At the risk of going off topic and sounding really suburban and dumb, I've been interested in visiting that area but am unclear as to where to park. There appears to be limited street parking in front of the businesses, but is there a garage or are there nearby surface lots or anything? Like if I wanted to take my little kid over there to eat and we don't want to walk a mile from our parking space to one of those restaurants, where would we park?

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