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There is a gallery hop in NOKY through various venues. That means there are galleries and studios. Like most cities.

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Just because people don't look --

 

There is a gallery hop in NOKY through various venues. That means there are galleries and studios. Like most cities.

 

Where? ... Because I used to live in Newport and I don't recall there being something like this?

First Friday of every month, typically from 6-10 PM.

 

Here is 2004 locations, which may have changed. Visit city hall or the tourism commission for an updated list --

In Covington: Twelve businesses open their doors on MainStrasse between Fifth and Seventh streets; nine feature art: Cock & Bull English Pub, Chez Nora, Eine Kleine Photograph, M, Noah's Art Salon/Gallery, Reverie Therapeutics, Ritual Salon, Scribbles and Willow House Antiques. Pick up a detailed map at Eine Kleine Photograph (610 Main St.).

 

In Newport: Start at Mammoth Coffee (515 Monmouth St.), then, head southwest to Eighth and York streets. for Stained Glass Theatre (802 York St.) and York Street Cafe (738 York St.). Finish up at Seventh Street Gifts (114 E. Seventh St.) and the Crazy Fox Saloon (901 Washington Ave.).

 

In Bellevue: Park on Fairfield Avenue and visit Bellevue Beadery (307 Fairfield Ave.), Fairfield Coffee Company and Gatherings, all in a row.

 

Also see http://kentuckytourism.com/CalendarDetail.htm?CID=10943 for Gallery Hop information.

 

And see this page for museums, art studios, etc.

 

KET's Kentucky Life has also highlighted several nice galleries and unique craft stores in NOKY (I watch the show daily!) :)

In Newport: Start at Mammoth Coffee (515 Monmouth St.), then, head southwest to Eighth and York streets. for Stained Glass Theatre (802 York St.) and York Street Cafe (738 York St.). Finish up at Seventh Street Gifts (114 E. Seventh St.) and the Crazy Fox Saloon (901 Washington Ave.).

 

 

I'm not going to argue with the Covington gallery walk ... but I cannot see the Newport walk on the streets that you mentioned attracting a large crowd or a crowd that would be interested in art. I hate to generalize like that, and I usually don't.

 

Those streets that you mentioned are in areas that ... let's just say ... live up to the KY stereotype. That's all I'm going to say about that. I'm also on board as to looking at NOKY and Cincinnati need to think regionally.

You may want to read this article on NOKY city cooperation.

 

Large crowds are not indicative of success. I attend most of the Gallery Hops in Lexington, KY, which has a large arts and cultural scene, and while I see a lot of people around places like the Artists Attic in Victorian Square or around the Arts Place, I see far fewer in other galleries. It's not the quantity of people that define the success of say... an art gallery, but the quality. And for some artists, their gallery is open far more than a few days a month.

 

But my point being, I posted all that to refute Randy's assertion that there were no art galleries or anything cultural in NOKY, and that places like the Pendleton Arts Center are considered art institutions.

You may want to read this article on NOKY city cooperation.

 

seicer, what am I looking for here? Remember that I used to live there.

But my point being, I posted all that to refute Randy's assertion that there were no art galleries or anything cultural in NOKY, and that places like the Pendleton Arts Center are considered art institutions.

 

Actually I was specifically comparing NOTL to Downtown Cincinnati (as most people do).  I also stretched that out to the wider reaches of Downtown Newport.  I know that Covington has stuff like that, and is actually a place that I like in Nky (just about the ONLY place).

 

Personally I think Cincinnati, Newport and Covington should all work together...but it really doesn't seem like the Nky cities want to cooperate AT ALL with Cincinnati and actually seem to use the feud as their source of momentum.  Why is it that every Nky project is compared to Cincinnati...the opposite is not true (except when you have a writer using it as a negative against a Cincy project...ie The Banks).

I would think that cooperation between NOKY and Cincinnati (what does NOTL mean, just out of curiousity?) would be difficult to manage, given that Cincinnati boasts a population far higher than NOKY and that there would be many fundamental differences. While NOKY cities are getting away with the divide and conquer approach, with one city taking the residential projects, another taking the civic projects, and so forth, that would be difficult to accomplish if you added in Cincinnati. There are many who don't venture across the river for whatever reason, given that its like crossing three blocks over water and the river acting as a large psychological barrier.

 

It is forming better in my head. If I can type it out better later, I'll add in comments into this post.

NOTL=Newport on the Levy

Oh, thanks. I wouldn't think it would be fair to compare NOTL to downtown Cincinnati, as downtown Cincinnati encompasses many more blocks and is loosely defined (see the Big 3 Population thread, where we can't even get a reliable figure anywhere on population!). NOTL is just one development project, comparable to The Banks (if it existed right now) or a similar district (perhaps Calhoun Street? or perhaps Fountain Square?). If you widened the scope of NOTL to include the downtowns of Covington, Newport, etc., you would have a greater variety in galleries, restaurants, etc.

 

For some reason, I associated NOTL with NOKY off the bat. Oops.

Oh, thanks. I wouldn't think it would be fair to compare NOTL to downtown Cincinnati, as downtown Cincinnati encompasses many more blocks and is loosely defined (see the Big 3 Population thread, where we can't even get a reliable figure anywhere on population!).

 

I completely agree...but when I hear locals talk they always spout out comments like "NOTL has soo much more to do than Downtown, why would I go Downtown if I could have a better time in Newport...blah, blah, blah."

True. I wonder if the same will be said when The Banks is complete, but in the sense of, "The Banks is far more fun and better than downtown (Cincinnati)." I kind of hope that The Banks will not be stacked up with top attractions at every corner, as that could have an adverse draw away from downtown Cincinnati, NOTL, and elsewhere.

"The Banks is far more fun and better than downtown (Cincinnati)."

 

I highly doubt it since the The Banks and Downtown are the same thing.  Even though it will be referred to as The Banks development...it is a development within Downtown Cincinnati.

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^that's more of a store than it is a gallery...doesn't count to me.  Z Galleries, for example, also sells some art type stuff but they are primarily a furniture/home decor store...not a gallery.

 

I wouldn't know.  I never go there!

True. I wonder if the same will be said when The Banks is complete, but in the sense of, "The Banks is far more fun and better than downtown (Cincinnati)." I kind of hope that The Banks will not be stacked up with top attractions at every corner, as that could have an adverse draw away from downtown Cincinnati, NOTL, and elsewhere.

 

That all depends on how many rich people we have moving into downtown and the east end. I don't see the banks as having THAT many top attractions but with One Rive Plaza etc I think it will be managable. I guess there's no way to know for sure.

  • 3 months later...

Another one bites the dust at the Levee...

 

Moe's at Levee closes

BY SCOTT WARTMAN | [email protected]

 

 

NEWPORT- Moe's Southwest Grill's location at Newport on The Levee closed today after almost two years in business.

 

The grill closed after it failed to attract enough business to justify keeping the location open, said Jennifer Dempsey, director for Focus Brand, the parent company of Moe's Southwest Grill.

. . .

I guess people hate walking when its raining, snowing, cold, windy...

^---Yup, pretty much. I know I sure do!

Aren't most outdoor malls or destination places like that? Bars are dead in the winter for example. If they were smart they would go to DT Cincinnati where the REAL lunch crowd is.

Really I love the winter in places like New York and Downtown Chicago for the fact that you can just walk down the street and duck into a little store you never really new existed or get a bit to eat at a spot that's actually hotter than the one you had planned on going into.  I think this is one of those things that people don't know that they want this until they have it.  It sucks that the location closed ubt it's my feeling that Newport only really works for a few businesses there most of the suburban kids that step onto the levee really only support a few select businesses.  It's a really unstable location.

^ Brio seems to be doing well. I took my mom there on valentines day. The food was great. It was cold, but i wasn't too picky about walking outside in the cold when i know i was going to sit down and have a good meal soon.

 

You know what, you have to walk outside in most places to eat anyway.

  • 3 months later...

Ruby says Tropicana will close

BY POLLY CAMPBELL | CINCINNATI ENQUIRER

May 23, 2008

 

NEWPORT - Jeff Ruby is closing his Newport restaurant, Jeff Ruby’s Tropicana, on June 30 because he is being sued over its name, Ruby said today.

 

Tropicana Entertainment, the Crestview Hills-based gaming company owned by Bill Yung III, filed the lawsuit a year ago. That company has since gone bankrupt and lost the gambling license for its Tropicana casino in Atlantic City, but has not dropped the suit.

Anyone else suspicious that Newport has purposefully timed the traffic lights near the Levee as to create permanent traffic congestion and the appearance of activity?  My theory was bolstered during the power outage two weeks ago when all of Newport and all of its traffic lights went dark with the exception of the Levee and four or five sets of traffic lights in front of it. 

The revolving door of tenants continues!

Ouch! This is a huge blow to the Levee.

Ouch! This is a huge blow to the Levee.

 

The completion of the Banks Project will be worse.

unless we have a streetcar linking it all together

Anyone else suspicious that Newport has purposefully timed the traffic lights near the Levee as to create permanent traffic congestion and the appearance of activity?  My theory was bolstered during the power outage two weeks ago when all of Newport and all of its traffic lights went dark with the exception of the Levee and four or five sets of traffic lights in front of it.

 

That's a great conspiracy... although at times it can be true. In Ashland (KY), the main throughfare -- Winchester Avenue -- had its signals retimed so that you would hit at least two traffic lights going 35 MPH.  However, that is not a state route and is maintained by the city. In general, traffic signals are uncoordinated with each other due to the distance of many traffic signals.

 

In Lexington (KY), the traffic signals are optimized and fully computerized, depending on the amount of traffic and so forth. Many signals use infrared detectors instead of loops, which further optimizes traffic flow.

 

I doubt, though, that NOTL requested the District of KYTC to "unoptimize" the signals. That's actually a state route, and KYTC would not allow that.

I actually went to NOTL for the first time today, and there was nobody there. I didn't know if that was just because of the Taste of Cincinnati or not. I didn't get a chance to go to downtown though. I was disappointed.  :-(

On the bright side, local restaurant Habanero has moved into the space formerly occupied by Moe's.  I wonder if it will do better, being a local place instead of a chain.

 

Or, how about this?  Move all of the remaining tenants from Cincinnati Mills into Newport on the Levee, and then tear Cincinnati Mills down.  :laugh:

I was at NOTL Thursday mid-day and found the restaurants and the surrounding envrions to be crowded, but otherwise, pretty empty. There is a substantial commercial-base surrounding NOTL, but not so much residential -- which they need more of. Apartments. Affordable units. It's pretty much a lunch and dinner crowd.

Even though urban experts have been predicting the downfall of NOTL for a few years, I don't think it behooves to see it fail (though it would be nice to see Newport have to connect more effectively with the urban fabric when the Banks blows it out of the water). It remains a signature development along the river, our key economic development corridor.

^good point!      guys, alot of folks on this forum love to bash NOTL, but with the progress being made at the Banks, Cincy, Covington, Newport........It's only a matter of time before they get it right over there.  It will (has) play (ed) a crucial ROLE IN DRAWING PEOPLE BACK DOWNTOWN.  I know some people in Admin for NOTL and it is not failing miserably like some on here refer to it as.   

 

As UncleRando is quick to point out.  ( And Mr. Portune, in his latest statements to WCPO.)

 

" A rising tide, lifts all boats"

I have been saying for some time that it was a major error not to include any residential with NOTL.  At the time they could have done condos that would have sold extremely well...but even in this bad market they could do an apartment building there that would do excellent and add a burst of daytime activity for NOTL.

 

I wish them the best and would like for it to be a successful area, but I don't think the developers or the City of Newport have set themselves up for long-term success there.  I still say that if NOTL doesn't try to change its focus or expand upon their current product...that they will ultimately fall victim to The Banks and what it will offer.  Time is ticking...it will be interesting to see if they can plan for the future or not.

It is a nice version of a Festival Marketplace.

Uncle Rando there are plenty of row houses within an easy walk of NOTL, unfortunately they are steadily being demolished for more parking.  And therein lies another paradox of NTOL...people are willing to idle in (artificial?) traffic congestion and pay to park there but complain about paying for parking in downtown Cincinnait. 

 

The traffic light timing is truley terrible around NOTL.  At night one can routinely drive from the 5th St. I-75 exit in Covington all the way to Big Daddy's Liquor without stopping, but it gets harrier with one's proximity to NOTL.  Again, exiting from 471, it is red light after red light around NOTL.  The situation around the Taylor-Southgate Bridge and Travelodge is not good...two weeks ago around 11pm Newport-bound traffic was at a standstill on the Taylor-Southgate Bridge a quarter of the way across with a rear-end collision at the center of the bridge to boot.     

Uncle Rando there are plenty of row houses within an easy walk of NOTL, unfortunately they are steadily being demolished for more parking.

 

Oh I know there are tons of great row houses nearby...I'm just saying that the NOTL development team missed a HUGE opportunity to put some apartments and/or condos on the actual NOTL.  This could have worked quite well where the now shuttered IMAX sits or on the large parking lot on the Eastern portions of the site - where they are now talking about a potential hotel.

 

Residential density, in these projects, is a good thing...and often can be the item that makes or breaks them.

^ I think that hotel is a step in the right direction, providing people who are around during the day to keep some of these stores afloat.  Hopefully, that will convince them to add some condos to the mix.  I could see several very small, relatively cheap condos doing pretty well there.

 

I also think that it's interesting that they've started leasing out some of the space to offices.  That would be another way to help the restaurants, but it's limited to lunch hour.

 

Ultimately, they haven't figured out what they want to be yet.  I think it's time to give up on the mall portion of that project and just focus on entertainment.  A large bowling alley and an upscale pool hall would do an amazing amount of business there.  Also, they need to attract some more local restaurants.  Cincinnati chili is noticeably absent, so a Skyline would do quite well.  There is also no Izzy's in Newport and the one in Covington has limited hours, so that could do a fair amount of business as well.

Ultimately, they haven't figured out what they want to be yet.  I think it's time to give up on the mall portion of that project and just focus on entertainment.  A large bowling alley and an upscale pool hall would do an amazing amount of business there.

 

I think you're exactly right on this one.  They have the ability to really solidify themselves as the entertainment hot spot...but they haven't done that yet.  If they choose to head in this direction the time to act is now...because The Banks will be coming online in 2-3 years and will immediately begin to stakes its claim as the entertainment hot spot for the region.

  • 3 weeks later...

Well this article addresses what most of us have been saying about the retail portion, a well as the overall performance (govn't repayment, office/entertainment uses, etc.)of the entire project, straight from the horse's mouth....

Levee hotel coming, but when?

BY SCOTT WARTMAN | [email protected]

 

NEWPORT - The Price Group still has plans for a hotel and more office space at its entertainment complex, Newport on the Levee. The company just doesn't know when.

 

The economy has made financing difficult for a planned Marriott Hotel on the spot where the vacant Imax theater stands, said Bob Siordia, chief operating officer for the San Diego-based Price Group.

^ I think this is a fantastic idea and they need to get moving on it. In the absence of a true residential aspect to NOTL, a good hotel is the next best thing. Think about it from an out of towner's point of view: they can sleep, eat and see a movie in the same complex. Plus walk to reds games etc. It seems like a no-brainer to me.

 

In any case, anything's better than that horrible travel lodge right?

I'm not sure why an apartment addition, to the Levee, isn't feasible.  It's like this group is dead set on doing anything/everything except residential.  I would think that apartments at NOTL and with quick access to two bridges over to Cincinnati for additional entertainment would do very well.  Good luck on the hotel though...I guess Covington, Cincy, and Newport are all racing to see who can build the next one or two the fastest (seeing as how they all are proposing them).

Good luck on the hotel though...I guess Covington, Cincy, and Newport are all racing to see who can build the next one or two the fastest (seeing as how they all are proposing them).

 

And the future growth of Cincinnati, in terms of entertainment as well as business, helps drive this perceived demand for hotels on the south shores.  So, if Cincinnati suffers, they surely will too.  The same goes with a successful future.

I'm not sure why an apartment addition, to the Levee, isn't feasible.  It's like this group is dead set on doing anything/everything except residential.

 

I think that apartments would be a tremendous addition to NOTL, and I think they'd be very popular with young professionals, particularly those that are moving to the area for the first time and are looking for a fun place to live for a year or so while they get to know the city.  Maybe they just haven't considered this option.  I think a hotel is definitely a step in the right direction, though.

^Maybe I need to offer some consulting services to them.  :-D

^ Couldn't be any worse than whoever's advising them now...

People buying condos in a mail seems to be a recent trend. I know I've read about few of them.

 

. . .The DuGallys are among the suburban pioneers snatching up units in "Nouvelle at Natick," a newly rising condominium complex where residents will be able to ride an elevator to a private hallway leading directly into the faux-birch-tree-lined atrium of the Natick Mall, recently expanded and renamed the Natick Collection. Their $1.6 million, 2,200-square-foot penthouse overlooking JCPenney, the DuGallys said, suits the lifestyle they want for themselves and their Chihuahua, Jasmine. . . .

 

http://www.boston.com/realestate/news/articles/2007/11/28/3br_mall_view/

 

 

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