I only had to stop once or twice for a train there during my time in Grandview which was 2011-2016.

Some of the roads in the Grandview Crossing development are now open to traffic.  

 

 

 

 

The Grandview Ave/Dublin Rd intersection is changing rapidly.

 

This new Sheetz location is rising very quick:

 

Across the street at Grandview Crossing, the buildings fronting Dublin Rd are coming along as well.

 

 

 

For a small innurb, GH is really leveraging the available land that it has to grow itself as of late.

 

It's still seems bizarre to me how Columbus's growth and annexation patterns bypassed this area, leaving it as a separate municipality literally just minutes from downtown. I can't think of many other cities with this type of setup.

 

37 minutes ago, NEOBuckeye said:

For a small innurb, GH is really leveraging the available land that it has to grow itself as of late.

 

It's still seems bizarre to me how Columbus's growth and annexation patterns bypassed this area, leaving it as a separate municipality literally just minutes from downtown. I can't think of many other cities with this type of setup.

 

 

They talked early on in the planning for Grandview Yard that while the community wasn't the most supportive, this was the way forward for Grandview Heights. They basically explained that using these available nodes allowed them to expand tax base and support the city without having to worry about development encroaching/harming the fabric of the existing neighborhoods.

A new storage facility for AEP coming up on Goodale, with a sneak peak at Grandview Crossing in the background:

 

Steel begins to rise on another building at Grandview Crossing

 

 

 

1 hour ago, CbusOrBust said:

Steel begins to rise on another building at Grandview Crossing

 

 

 

I was thinking of stopping and getting a pic, but I figured you’d be on it! 🤣

Multiple new buildings are now vertical at Grandview Crossing... And it appears more will be going vertical soon.

 

 

And it's kind of hard to see in this picture - but you can see the new hospital tower at Ohio State from here now too

Edited January 27, 20223 yr by CbusOrBust

Another building is vertical at Grandview Crossing

 

 

 

 

 

Southern Station 

 

 

Southern Station 😐 what station?

 

It could be worse - "The Station at Grandview" "Station Commons" "The Station Commons at Grandview" "The Station Crossing at Grandview Commons"

13 hours ago, Pablo said:

Southern Station 😐 what station?

 

It could be worse - "The Station at Grandview" "Station Commons" "The Station Commons at Grandview" "The Station Crossing at Grandview Commons"

Light rail on those tracks confirmed.

13 hours ago, Pablo said:

Southern Station 😐 what station?

 

It could be worse - "The Station at Grandview" "Station Commons" "The Station Commons at Grandview" "The Station Crossing at Grandview Commons"

I’m just going to continue to call it the GVY Extension

21 minutes ago, amped91 said:

I’m just going to continue to call it the GVY Extension

"The Residences at Grandview Yards South" or some such nonsense. Or maybe GYSO for GrandView Yards South lol.

"The No Train Station at Grandview"

Some updated Grandview Crossing Pictures

2 hours ago, Alexzanto said:

Some updated Grandview Crossing Pictures

The street sign in the Home Depot bucket is just great.

Grandview Crossing continues to grow and grow. Framing is going up on one of the mixed use buildings, while, directly across the street, the second mixed use building has recently gone vertical. Not pictured, but foundation work has started on the eastern most part of the development for more residential buildings. 
 

 

 

The Edington on W. 1st at Fairview appears close to completion. Pretty good looking building. 
 

Few more from Grandview Crossing

 

 

 

 

The Edington (7-17-22)

 

 

 

Grandview Crossing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sheetz at Dublin and Grandview

 

Grandview High School renovation / Middle School addition

 

 

4 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said:

 

 

That's a grand view.

5 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

 

That's a grand view.

 

Shame none of the buildings took advantage of it.  The biggest flaws of this whole development are how just about everything is the same height and somewhat similar design.  

2 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Shame none of the buildings took advantage of it.  The biggest flaws of this whole development are how just about everything is the same height and somewhat similar design.  

Isn’t that because this area was a landfill? I remember during site prep like 6-7 years they spent months just packing the earth down so they could actually build on it. 

35 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

Isn’t that because this area was a landfill? I remember during site prep like 6-7 years they spent months just packing the earth down so they could actually build on it. 

Eh, there’s ways around that. I could see building a few of the 5 stories to start out and seeing how they fill up. They can easily build taller, they just have to have the foundation go deeper. If they can build super talks in the swampy ground that is Chicago, they can build a 10+ story on a landfill. 

8 hours ago, VintageLife said:

Eh, there’s ways around that. I could see building a few of the 5 stories to start out and seeing how they fill up. They can easily build taller, they just have to have the foundation go deeper. If they can build super talks in the swampy ground that is Chicago, they can build a 10+ story on a landfill. 

 

Right, but that's insanely expensive. You can make the numbers work in downtown Chicago, a world-famous city with very little land available to build on, but it's increasingly more difficult to make the numbers work on an awkward piece of land like this in a smaller city with a lot of available land to build on.

11 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

Isn’t that because this area was a landfill? I remember during site prep like 6-7 years they spent months just packing the earth down so they could actually build on it. 

 

Grandview Crossing, yes, but I was speaking more broadly about all the large scale developments in the area, including Grandview Yard.  For Grandview Crossing itself, I don't think the landfill alone was the reason they didn't mix heights.  The national trend is still a big preference for 5 over 1s, which is typically a maximum of 5-6 stories.  They can be built cheaply and quickly, while anything above that is more expensive for engineering and materials due to codes. So I don't think it's entirely a matter of that they couldn't, but just that as with most other developments of late- didn't want to spend the money to do so.  I'm sure there were extra challenges being on a landfill, so it gets more of a pass.  But that doesn't apply to most other locations building the same things.  

Edited July 21, 20222 yr by jonoh81

2 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Grandview Crossing, yes, but I was speaking more broadly about all the large scale developments in the area, including Grandview Yard.  For Grandview Crossing itself, I don't think the landfill alone was the reason they didn't mix heights.  The national trend is still a big preference for 5 over 1s, which is typically a maximum of 5-6 stories.  They can be built cheaply and quickly, while anything above that is more expensive for engineering and materials due to codes. So I don't think it's entirely a matter of that they couldn't, but just that as with most other developments of late- didn't want to spend the money to do so.  I'm sure there were extra challenges being on a landfill, so it gets more of a pass.  But that doesn't apply to most other locations building the same things.  

 

Gotcha. It seemed pretty obvious you were talking specifically about Grandview Crossing, considering I was talking about the view from Grandview Crossing and the picture was from Grandview Crossing. But yes, I think we would all like to see more height in other areas of the city. That horse has been beaten to death. 

On 7/20/2022 at 1:28 PM, NorthShore647 said:

The Edington (7-17-22)

 

 

Looks like the Edington caught fire this morning 😬

 

 

Crazy since I just happened to drive by it yesterday. Wonder how bad the damage is. 

A long, slow build out just got even longer. Hope the damage isn't too bad or it may be another year before we see people moving in. 

Grandview, NBBJ refining plan for Goodale West area

 

"A draft of a plan for how the area known as "Goodale West" might be redeveloped is being refined.

 

The areas are three hubs identified as being districts with potential for redevelopment and activities that would attract people, Wray said.

 

Those hubs include a municipal hub which includes the Goodale West district; an education hub on and near Third Avenue and the Grandview Heights Schools' grade 4-12 campus; and the emerging hub on and near Northwest Boulevard and Pierce Field Park.

 

Goodale West is a 6.5-acre area south of where the Grandview Crossing development is being built and adjacent to the parcel on the southeast corner of Grandview Avenue and Goodale Boulevard – the proposed site for the new municipal complex the city is planning.

 

Those projects are giving new context to the Goodale West area, which runs from Kramer Avenue on the east to Grandview Avenue on the west, Koelker said.

 

"The hope is that in the future, the existing rail line in the district could be converted into a rails-to-trail bike and pedestrian way," she said.

 

Mixed-use development featuring retail and restaurants could front both Goodale and the trail, Koelker said.

 

Among the amenities in the district are Wyman Woods and McKinley Field parks; the Grandview Center, which is proposed to be relocated to McKinley; the municipal pool and the new municipal complex. All are conducive to encouraging mixed-use development with restaurants, coffee shops and retail, Wray said."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/communities/grandview-heights/2022/08/04/grandview-nbbj-refining-plan-goodale-west-area/10173243002/

 

 

So they plan on taking out the train tracks? I realize the line doesn't get used much currently but those tracks might be important for rail transit in the future. And once they get taken out it's really hard to get them put back.

There doesn’t appear to be any exterior damage after The Edington suffered a fire a couple weeks back. 
 

 

 

 

Quite a bit more progress at GVX, including a couple more apartment buildings that have started framing in recent days, and foundation work on a couple more. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Few from Southern Station

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grandview Crossing (from Sheetz)

 

 

 

 

Things really moving along at Grandview Crossing now.

There's at least ten buildings under various stages of construction on site.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Am I the only one pretty underwhelmed with the way GY and now GC have turned out? They could have gone for something truly transformative and statement-making with these developments, given the longer-term growth and industrial trajectory of Columbus. More density and higher rise should have been givens. Instead, it's a lot of meh, semi-suburban infill crap that is going to be outmoded in 10-15 years. A landlocked tiny innurb like this one positioned so closely to the center of a metro typically doesn't get a whole lot of chances to remake itself. Grandview Heights undersold itself and blew both of these rare opportunities.

1 hour ago, NEOBuckeye said:

Am I the only one pretty underwhelmed with the way GY and now GC have turned out? They could have gone for something truly transformative and statement-making with these developments, given the longer-term growth and industrial trajectory of Columbus. More density and higher rise should have been givens. Instead, it's a lot of meh, semi-suburban infill crap that is going to be outmoded in 10-15 years. A landlocked tiny innurb like this one positioned so closely to the center of a metro typically doesn't get a whole lot of chances to remake itself. Grandview Heights undersold itself and blew both of these rare opportunities.

You are not, there are plenty of us. 100% agree, this project is very lackluster and isn’t great overall. 

17 hours ago, VintageLife said:

You are not, there are plenty of us. 100% agree, this project is very lackluster and isn’t great overall. 

I mean, what's there and coming in is mostly better than what was there--brownfields and such--but GY & GC are both still vastly underused opportunities, and there isn't going to be a chance to redo them as a whole anytime in the next 30-50+ years to maximize their latent potential.

 

It's unfortunate. I mean, a suburban drive-thru Chic-Fil-A on Third Ave? Really people?

 

Maybe it is just too much to expect Grandview Heights (and even Columbus for its part in this) to think outside of the box on projects like these. GH is, after all, a suburb that basically incorporated to avoid absorption into Columbus and all that it represents. Creating two districts that would have essentially been extensions of Downtown CBUS would probably have been akin to surrendering to annexation. It does make me wonder now what might have become of these properties had GH actually become part of Columbus years ago.

20 hours ago, NEOBuckeye said:

Am I the only one pretty underwhelmed with the way GY and now GC have turned out? They could have gone for something truly transformative and statement-making with these developments, given the longer-term growth and industrial trajectory of Columbus. More density and higher rise should have been givens. Instead, it's a lot of meh, semi-suburban infill crap that is going to be outmoded in 10-15 years. A landlocked tiny innurb like this one positioned so closely to the center of a metro typically doesn't get a whole lot of chances to remake itself. Grandview Heights undersold itself and blew both of these rare opportunities.

Grandview Yard, no; Grandview Crossing, yes.
I guess part of my reasoning for Grandview Yard was that:

1. It was the first investment of its scale for the region;
2. Traveling north on Yard Street from Goodale gives an Easton Way appearance. Brick looks classy in my opinion and gives it an identity.
3. The street layouts integrate nicely with 3rd, Northwest, and Goodale.
4. By the time it was developed I just wasn't following it/anticipating it as closely, so there's that bias.

Grandview Crossing:

1. Did have the opportunity to launch off of GVY's momentum and do bigger and better. Is more directly aligned with downtown through Dublin Road so should have.
2. But has little to no local connectivity and the aesthetic is just...odd.

With both, I would've liked more height and diversity, buildings that weren't 1-2 whole blocks long, and more shopping/ground-floor retail. But Crossing looks like it's just a flat artificial island whereas Yard feels more like an actual neighborhood that ties in its area.

25 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said:

Grandview Yard, no; Grandview Crossing, yes.
I guess part of my reasoning for Grandview Yard was that:

1. It was the first investment of its scale for the region;
2. Traveling north on Yard Street from Goodale gives an Easton Way appearance. Brick looks classy in my opinion and gives it an identity.
3. The street layouts integrate nicely with 3rd, Northwest, and Goodale.
4. By the time it was developed I just wasn't following it/anticipating it as closely, so there's that bias.

Grandview Crossing:

1. Did have the opportunity to launch off of GVY's momentum and do bigger and better. Is more directly aligned with downtown through Dublin Road so should have.
2. But has little to no local connectivity and the aesthetic is just...odd.

With both, I would've liked more height and diversity, buildings that weren't 1-2 whole blocks long, and more shopping/ground-floor retail. But Crossing looks like it's just a flat artificial island whereas Yard feels more like an actual neighborhood that ties in its area.

 

Great points on Grandview Yard. I think it's been a success overall. Could it have been better? Sure, but few developments are perfect, and even less are perfect at the scale of Grandview Yard. I think they did a good job of blending it with the existing neighborhood which probably enabled them to avoid a lot of NIMBY issues. 

 

In terms of Grandview Crossing, it was always going to be a nearly impossible area to develop well from an urban standpoint. Not only were there foundation issues with the land, but it's bound by railroad tracks, two wide and very busy roads, and a water treatment facility. I'm frankly surprised we didn't see something as lazy as a strip mall like Lennox. 

3 hours ago, NEOBuckeye said:

I mean, what's there and coming in is mostly better than what was there--brownfields and such--but GY & GC are both still vastly underused opportunities, and there isn't going to be a chance to redo them as a whole anytime in the next 30-50+ years to maximize their latent potential.

 

It's unfortunate. I mean, a suburban drive-thru Chic-Fil-A on Third Ave? Really people?

 

Maybe it is just too much to expect Grandview Heights (and even Columbus for its part in this) to think outside of the box on projects like these. GH is, after all, a suburb that basically incorporated to avoid absorption into Columbus and all that it represents. Creating two districts that would have essentially been extensions of Downtown CBUS would probably have been akin to surrendering to annexation. It does make me wonder now what might have become of these properties had GH actually become part of Columbus years ago.

I mean, I'm not trying to argue, and I know I'm just a "Dirt Lot", but, even in Newark NJ and Brooklyn you can find strip malls and drive-thru fast food restaurants. Even if they're more surrounded by brownstones/row houses or towers. I don't like the ChickFilA either, but our biggest cities are not completely devoid of them.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7140237,-73.900966,3a,60y,344.13h,80.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svh0ryb3b595v6piY9uOrVA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7266105,-74.17279,3a,75y,341.45h,88.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swgsc5R0NBG1QBKBcN1mq6A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And Grandview Yard as an extension of Downtown seems farfetched honestly. Goodale is barely a walkable node once you go west of Neil and that's not gonna change with the excessive overpasses, exit ramps and railroads. Grandview Crossing is even less realistic given the reasons that cbussoccer listed. For an "extension of Downtown" we can and need to be thinking Scioto Peninsula and Franklinton. Maybe include Short North or Near East.

26 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said:

I mean, I'm not trying to argue, and I know I'm just a "Dirt Lot", but, even in Newark NJ and Brooklyn you can find strip malls and drive-thru fast food restaurants. Even if they're more surrounded by brownstones/row houses or towers. I don't like the ChickFilA either, but our biggest cities are not completely devoid of them.

 

Next to the Portillo's in Downtown Chicago you'll find a one story Walgreens with a surface parking lot in front, a McDonald's with a drive-through and surface parking, and a BP station. This is just about 5 blocks from Michigan Ave. and the river. 

22 hours ago, PrestoKinetic said:

Grandview Yard, no; Grandview Crossing, yes.
I guess part of my reasoning for Grandview Yard was that:

1. It was the first investment of its scale for the region;
2. Traveling north on Yard Street from Goodale gives an Easton Way appearance. Brick looks classy in my opinion and gives it an identity.
3. The street layouts integrate nicely with 3rd, Northwest, and Goodale.
4. By the time it was developed I just wasn't following it/anticipating it as closely, so there's that bias.

Grandview Crossing:

1. Did have the opportunity to launch off of GVY's momentum and do bigger and better. Is more directly aligned with downtown through Dublin Road so should have.
2. But has little to no local connectivity and the aesthetic is just...odd.

With both, I would've liked more height and diversity, buildings that weren't 1-2 whole blocks long, and more shopping/ground-floor retail. But Crossing looks like it's just a flat artificial island whereas Yard feels more like an actual neighborhood that ties in its area.

 

I'm kind of the opposite to you.  GC is what it is because of the land limitations.  I don't love it, but I at least understand it.  GY to me is more missed opportunity than not.  As you said, the block-long buildings and uniform heights/styles are boring and architecturally sterile. Grandview could've really pushed this being a landlocked suburb with little available blank slate land like this was. They did not.  Furthermore, the Giant Eagle development is just awful and something you'd find in any standard, low-density suburb.  I don't think any of it feels like a neighborhood in the traditional sense.  A lot of the building setbacks prevent direct street interaction and feel more suburban than they should, and there wasn't nearly enough retail and otherwise mixed-use integration within individual buildings, something you would've absolutely seen in older-style urban neighborhoods.  As an urban neighborhood, it's just okay.  Bridge Park did a far better job, IMO, and arguably what GY should have been.

Edited September 29, 20222 yr by jonoh81

21 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

 

I'm kind of the opposite to you.  GC is what it is because of the land limitations.  I don't love it, but I at least understand it.  GY to me is more missed opportunity than not.  As you said, the block-long buildings and uniform heights/styles are boring and architecturally sterile. Grandview could've really pushed this being a landlocked suburb with little available blank slate land like this was. They did not.  Furthermore, the Giant Eagle development is just awful and something you'd find in any standard, low-density suburb.  I don't think any of it feels like a neighborhood in the traditional sense.  A lot of the building setbacks prevent direct street interaction and feel more suburban than they should, and there wasn't nearly enough retail and otherwise mixed-use integration within individual buildings, something you would've absolutely seen in older-style urban neighborhoods.  As an urban neighborhood, it's just okay.  Bridge Park did a far better job, IMO, and arguably what GY should have been.

I can see what you mean. I agree with most of your points about Grandview Yard, but I guess where the difference lies is my overall emotion towards it is "It could've been better with some tweaks" and not like a disappointed regret where I wish I can overhaul the whole thing. Not to assume you meant one or the other, but I think that notion set the course for my original post. Seeing just a few restaurants and stores lining the middle of Yard Street would make the most difference, in my opinion, or at least make me happier.

11 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said:

Seeing just a few restaurants and stores lining the middle of Yard Street would make the most difference, in my opinion, or at least make me happier.

 

The entire Keystone building, which stretches between Burr and Williams along Yard, has ground floor office space that could be easily transformed into restaurant or retail space. The new building at the northeast corner of Williams and Yard will have office space as well which could also be converted if they feel the area can support it. 

 

Also, I have to say that when it comes to comparing the architectural style of GY to Bridge Park, I much prefer GY. 

 

 

 

Looks like ground has broke on one of the lots behind Southern Station along Bowman Way.

 

Anyone know if this is another phase of Southern Station?

 

 

Grandview Crossing. Steel framing is up for the food hall now. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Food Hall! Food Hall! Food Hall!